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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: daddog on May 06, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
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Special Events would greatly benefit from the addition of the He-111.
Battle of Britain is popular in Events, but since the addition of the Stuka nearly 10 years ago I 'think' the plane set has been unchanged. :old:
Please seriously consider moving this to a front burner for 2012.
:salute
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Since special events arent especially popular why would you think an underpowered, unable to defend itself, early war bomber would be popular?
The JU-88 is a far more capable bomber and even that isnt popular. Im just wondering thats all.
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For 10 years now we are basically stuck with a slow, underarmed EW bomber for the Luftwaffe in the place were 90% of all activity is happening.
I'm seriously going :mad: when the next one to be added will be an even worse one.
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Since special events arent especially popular why would you think an underpowered, unable to defend itself, early war bomber would be popular?
The JU-88 is a far more capable bomber and even that isnt popular. Im just wondering thats all.
Special events are the other half of the game, it's not all about the MA.
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It's not all about the SEA either. SEA is an import, but still small part of the game. The Luft bomber set has a more gaping hole than the He 111.
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What about this one?
(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/ju188a1.jpg)
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For 10 years now we are basically stuck with a slow, underarmed EW bomber for the Luftwaffe in the place were 90% of all activity is happening.
I'm seriously going :mad: when the next one to be added will be an even worse one.
HE177!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What about this one?
(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/ju188a1.jpg)
Yes, I would very much like to see a Ju188A-1 added to the game.
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Since special events arent especially popular why would you think an underpowered, unable to defend itself, early war bomber would be popular?
The JU-88 is a far more capable bomber and even that isnt popular. Im just wondering thats all.
Have you ever stepped foot in the SEA during an event?
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Special Events would greatly benefit from the addition of the He-111.
Battle of Britain is popular in Events, but since the addition of the Stuka nearly 10 years ago I 'think' the plane set has been unchanged. :old:
Please seriously consider moving this to a front burner for 2012.
:salute
The Heinkel He-111H would be a very welcome addition for special events. :aok
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Have you ever stepped foot in the SEA during an event?
+1
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Since special events arent especially popular why would you think an underpowered, unable to defend itself, early war bomber would be popular?
The JU-88 is a far more capable bomber and even that isnt popular. Im just wondering thats all.
They are for me. :rock
The He-111 would be a fun change up. Since 95% of the Special Events seem to involve the Germans, this plane would see tons of use in it.
As for the MA, well folks aren't gonna be happy until they have the best plane in its class for every country. At least then we could hear the "its not as good as we already have arguments" :bhead
+1 He-111 (add in the SM-79 with it and make it a combo pack) :eek:
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Yea I want more than just 88s to shoot at with my hurri mk.1 :D and with the SM 79s I like a Gloster Gladiator.................... ................. :bolt:
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Do-17? Hangar queen, but cool to have anyway. Ju-88, He-111, and Do-17 formation is sweet looking.
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Do-17? Hangar queen, but cool to have anyway. Ju-88, He-111, and Do-17 formation is sweet looking.
Do-17 I believe had very short range with a decent bomb load, or Medium range with a very reduced load.
That plus lack of defensive armament, The He-111 is a better value.
Guns: three 7.92 mm MG 15 machine guns (some were fitted with up to five in 1939–1940)
Bombs:
500 kg (1,102 lb) max.
500 kg (1,102 lb) in the main internal bomb bay.
Although a secondary bay of 500 kg (1,102 lb) capacity could be created by removing fuel tanks, this early variant was too underpowered to carry such a large load with acceptable performance.
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+1 for Ju188, 288 on up to 488
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in "another game" we have the do17 and he111
BOB without it is seriously hampered
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Have you ever stepped foot in the SEA during an event?
Yes, tho not recently. Seeing 20 to 30 players involved kinda prevents me from going in. Sometimes I see even less then that, and I do check.
Hey this isnt a put down. No more then saying the sun rises is a put down. Historical recreation missions is a favorite part of the game for me. But that almost never happens anymore either unless its all American iron.
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Ever since I been playing this game (5 yrs) I have saw people ask for the HE-111. What I always wonders is why the HE-111 was not the very first German bomber modeled for this game. Not having the HE-111 is a lot like still waiting for an ME-109. Maybe there is a reason with the 111s modeling I don't know about or some other technical problem.
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Since special events arent especially popular ...
<shrug> The 330+ folks who show up every Friday for FSO might disagree with you.
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+1 Bino. :)
P-39
Brewster Buffalo
Me 410
He 111
B-25
Pe-2 or Tu-2
Yak 3
G.55
Japanese fighter - Ki 44, J2M, Ki 45, or Ki 43
A-26
Back in 2007 this was a list that Pyro put up for a vote. The He-111 made it to the 2nd round.
Since then they have added a few which are in bold. No telling what the CM’s would request, but I know the He-111 would be a popular choice for the events community especially since the Battle of Britain is a popular theatre and time period that is played several times a year.
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+1 Bino. :)
P-39
Brewster Buffalo
Me 410
He 111
B-25
Pe-2 or Tu-2
Yak 3
G.55
Japanese fighter - Ki 44, J2M, Ki 45, or Ki 43
A-26
Back in 2007 this was a list that Pyro put up for a vote. The He-111 made it to the 2nd round.
Since then they have added a few which are in bold. No telling what the CM’s would request, but I know the He-111 would be a popular choice for the events community especially since the Battle of Britain is a popular theatre and time period that is played several times a year.
We need everything on this list minus the bold :)
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<shrug> The 330+ folks who show up every Friday for FSO might disagree with you.
Thats usually the population of the LWA, or close to it. And I dont see to many leaving LWA on Fridays, "course Im usually not on late".
Hey bro, Im all for Historical recreations. I think they are the cats rear end. We used to have magnificent ones organized by players in LWA on Sundays way back when.
I just want my fracking Soviet bomber. :pray After that I'll be happy with anything coming down the pipe.
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Seeing as the Ju88 carries more, flies faster, and climbs better, and is better armed to defend itself than the He-111, it is very much unrepresentative for early war scenarios. You may claim it's old and weak, sure, but you put it up against Spit Mk.I and Hurr Mk.I and it turns out to be too much for them to handle.
So, yes it is obsolete and "weak" -- but it is vitally needed, along with other early war planes. I'd love a G3M Nell and a Ki-21 Sally as well.
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I think the G4M stands in well enough for the G3M and Ki-21 to not worry about those for a long time. There are much bigger gaps.
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True enough that the G4M can stand in for the G3M, but not so much the Ki-21. There are plenty of slower, older, more vulnerable bombers that only had a handful of 7mm guns for defense that are needed. While the G4M is mincemeat for later planes, it's still somewhat high flying and fast flying for the early stuff. Plus the Ki-21 could fill in for a number of other early planes, too. Soviet, Italian, British, etc.
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HE177!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1 this before any other (non-variant) LW bomber, in my opinion.
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+1 this before any other (non-variant) LW bomber, in my opinion.
It is an unrepresentative piece of crap. The Do217E or Ju188A would be a much better addition.
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Much as I'd love the Ju-188 (believe me, I've wanted it for ages!) I think the He-111 has to be first.
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Much as I'd love the Ju-188 (believe me, I've wanted it for ages!) I think the He-111 has to be first.
Sure, He111 is a big gap, but the guy I was responding to was asking for the He177.
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Oh, I agree. I was just commenting in general. :aok
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+1 for the He 111.