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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pand on May 26, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
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Should a 190 be able to roll faster than the internet can keep up with via lag? I've got a perfect connection and 90% of all 190s I see warp on their X axis.
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When you and 39 of your friends all horde the same area all at once it just may slow down the internets.
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When you and 39 of your friends all horde the same area all at once it just may slow down the internets.
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:rofl :lol
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Should a 190 be able to roll faster than the internet can keep up with via lag? I've got a perfect connection and 90% of all 190s I see warp on their X axis.
Have the same problem.
Most people who fly them know it & make full use of it when you get their six.
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When you and 39 of your friends all horde the same area all at once it just may slow down the internets.
:rofl :lol
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Done!
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Rule #2 and Rule #4.
See rule #5 :ahand
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This warp applies just to the 190 :rofl
I have see no warping, its probly because your looking for it :old:
And its probly true that lots of people. on a six affects lag :old:
SEC was good last week friendly collisions is enabled so its fun, 2 frame next :banana
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:lol
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ok lag effects all but if you would pull up these chart's and I used the 51d as a comparison for this with the different speed and all here is the sample below: wep normal, and cruise
http://www.hitechcreations.com/component/option,com_ahplaneperf/Itemid,221/view,ahplaneperf/index.php
from my past flights in the 190d9( and I have applied all) I have been able to out roll any plane that have encountered me ( even tho sometimes I get lucky and force an over shoot , other times I end up loosing with this move)
so in my mind this thread is kind of a dead end since no one's internet connection is the same and all effect's of the planes are different and right now it seems like this pilot has not dealt with 190d9's before in a fight with the roles and they are asking about net stuff and all.
this also kind of goes to other post in the past about certain plane's about being able to go thru active auto gun's and cv's guns with out a a scratch on them...
Just my Opinion
Crazy8s
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Should a 190 be able to roll faster than the internet can keep up with via lag? I've got a perfect connection and 90% of all 190s I see warp on their X axis.
In warbirds roll rates were slowed down for this reason. It made the feel pretty horrible.
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Lets kill them before they start to roll :old:
:salute
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they can roll all they want, you still use your sense to predict their next move. and if they pull in the roll they snap roll, and with no e you get them in the down. It may look fancy, but a vector roll is still going somewhere. . .
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so in my mind this thread is kind of a dead end since no one's internet connection is the same and all effect's of the planes are different and right now it seems like this pilot has not dealt with 190d9's before in a fight with the roles and they are asking about net stuff and all.
Been flying aces for 10 years+, and while I have noticed this previously, it was few and far between that I would actually see people flying 190s, so no big deal. Apparently 190s in the game today are as popular as the 'Spice Girls' were in the 90s, and I fight multiples on almost every sortie so the occurance of this issue has increased considerably. I don't have this issue with any other aircraft, but when saddling a 190, they will start to twist one way, then 'warp' twist the other way. I am assuming due to net lag, while the 190 has completed almost a full rotation on the 190's FE, the packet transferring his position over the network to the attackers FE sees it closer of a rotation in the opposite direction so it renders the movement that way. Throw in about 5 or 6 packets with a 190 violently flailing about and you have no way to judge what direction the 190's X axis is actually rotating.
Granted I still kill them most of the time; however, with more and more people flying the german iron, it's more apparent that this advantage is due to the network and the way FE's communicate, and not an aircraft or pilot one as I believe it should be. :salute
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My take on the 190a8 and roll
190a8 gives you, and opponent a roll surprise the 190a8 can use to its advantage:
In a A8 just pull up fast at any altitude, and the machine snap-rolls and lose speed like hitting a wall, if con are within 400 yards, preferably at 200, making almost an impossible target.
This last resort move can give you a snapshot on the con passing you, unless he already didn't collide or auger trying to follow that strange behaviour.
It gives you the "huh?" feeling if you are not prepared for it.
Maybe something its not correctly modelled.... ?
Again, remodelling the A-series with lower roll rate for less net-lag problems , will rob the 190A-s of its one and only advantage in the game, something it had IRL.
I've read 190A-s voluntarily did enter a spin at 20k altitude to get away from a fight, but on the deck I have not....
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BeeLowK does exactly what the OP describes. But if this was fixed, I'd lose my inflight comedy.
To the 190/net exploiter -> :lol
In football we have a chant for those that are, in respect to acm, out of their depth, It goes; "You don't know what your doing" repeat.
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see rule 16: the spixteen rolls just as fast as a 190.
Those stupid luft dweebs...
BtwWhen you and 39 of your friends all horde the same area all at once it just may slow down the internets.
this
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The jeep has a good roll rate as well :)
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see rule 16: the spixteen rolls just as fast as a 190.
Those stupid luft dweebs..
This is why I love flaming Spit dweebs so much. Superiority Complex will make most overshoot everytime. :cool:
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This is why I love flaming Spit dweebs so much. Superiority Complex will make most overshoot everytime. :cool:
haha, its a big truth.
"u a cheatah" too?
:D
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I like the Typhoon :)
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haha, its a big truth.
"u a cheatah" too?
:D
I never noticed the lag they say with other 190's but have seen many a floppy Spit. :headscratch:
I've seen lag on every plane at certain times.
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:huh :huh :huh Haxxors :rofl :rofl :rofl
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The jeep has a good roll rate as well :)
Zack you're so damn random! :rofl :rofl :rofl :cheers:
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The jeep has a good roll rate as well :)
:aok :aok :aok :banana: :aok :aok :aok
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When you and 39 of your friends all horde the same area all at once it just may slow down the internets.
This. So by all means, send more in. It's not like the handful with enough E to be workign the single 190 will get a solution without 30 more friends all wrestling for the same cubic acre of airspace on the 190's six.
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see rule 16: the spixteen rolls just as fast as a 190.
Those stupid luft dweebs...
Btwthis
It rolls fast but nowhere near the 190 series.
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I don't think it is the max roll rate of the 190 that is the difference from other planes. There are some that are very close to it. The special thing about 190s is the roll acceleration. They reach the maximum roll rate nearly instantaneously, faster than the smoothening code can deal with. Net games such as AH use extrapolation to predict the movement before the next network update arrives and use it to smooth the movement as seen by the FE. A "jerk" (not a player, the change in acceleration) as happens when initiating a new movement is difficult to predict.
It's the roll acceleration that gives this wonderful "snappy" feeling for the 190. P38Ls can roll very fast at high speeds, but you can notice how the roll rate builds up over a very short period, but long enough to be noticeable and for the smoothening code to extrapolate correctly.
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I don't think it is the max roll rate of the 190 that is the difference from other planes. There are some that are very close to it. The special thing about 190s is the roll acceleration. They reach the maximum roll rate nearly instantaneously, faster than the smoothening code can deal with. Net games such as AH use extrapolation to predict the movement before the next network update arrives and use it to smooth the movement as seen by the FE. A "jerk" (not a player, the change in acceleration) as happens when initiating a new movement is difficult to predict.
It's the roll acceleration that gives this wonderful "snappy" feeling for the 190. P38Ls can roll very fast at high speeds, but you can notice how the roll rate builds up over a very short period, but long enough to be noticeable and for the smoothening code to extrapolate correctly.
Thank God... an intelligent response.
:salute