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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NikonGuy on May 29, 2012, 09:00:09 AM
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I got text and voice muted tonight for the first time for saying ..... wait for it ... !!!
FAIL
Yup I said that dirty filthy nasty word .. FAIL
and I do not understand why .. am I missing something here?
NG :rock
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Have played since 2002. Never been muted.
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I got text and voice muted tonight for the first time for saying ..... wait for it ... !!!
FAIL
Yup I said that dirty filthy nasty word .. FAIL
and I do not understand why .. am I missing something here?
NG :rock
Copped a 10 day on both once for saying "useless banana" he he, who did you say it to? My guess it was a mod. I had to pretty much give the guy a handjob to get mine back. hope you have better luck mate
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oh and the word banana above was like the name Wayne Kerr.. if you get the drift
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lol .. I was talking to Fuze about someone else and we were both trying to come up with an anti salute if you know what I mean ..
My exact words were "<F> is for fail" like salute ya know.
I then got a warning and thought .. what the heck !!!
So I typed just FAIL into country channel to see if that was the bad word ..
then I got banned for typing it again I guess .. lol.
There are some seriously weird rules around :rolleyes:
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I got text and voice muted tonight for the first time for saying ..... wait for it ... !!!
FAIL
Yup I said that dirty filthy nasty word .. FAIL
and I do not understand why .. am I missing something here?
NG :rock
Contact HTC and discuss it. If what you say is true they will clear it up. The boards are not the place for this.
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Seriously if a mod is gonna use his powers to mute people for ridiculous things like this then they do not deserve to be a mod at all ... thats just blatant miss use of the role as a moderator.
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Seriously if a mod is gonna use his powers to mute people for ridiculous things like this then they do not deserve to be a mod at all ... thats just blatant miss use of the role as a moderator.
Keep going.... maybe you'll get a vacation from the boards too. :lol
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Shuffler the reason I posted it here is in the hope HTC will explain t to me ..
If I have done something wrong I will gladly wear it but I just don't get it .. not for a non vulgar word such as this .. :P
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lol .. I was talking to Fuze about someone else and we were both trying to come up with an anti salute if you know what I mean ..
My exact words were "<F> is for fail" like salute ya know.
I then got a warning and thought .. what the heck !!!
So I typed just FAIL into country channel to see if that was the bad word ..
then I got banned for typing it again I guess .. lol.
There are some seriously weird rules around :rolleyes:
Maybe the auto censor mistook fail for that other not nice f word?
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Keep going.... maybe you'll get a vacation from the boards too. :lol
Really? that comment was an epic FAIL :D
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lol well I tell you what .. if someone wants to ban from the boards over this .. then I will happily withdraw my subscription and use my $15 elsewhere
this is ridiculous
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lol well I tell you what .. if someone wants to ban from the boards over this .. then I will happily withdraw my subscription and use my $15 elsewhere
this is ridiculous
I think I understand why you were banned in game.
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Maybe the auto censor mistook fail for that other not nice f word?
I reckon you might be right Tracers .. the auto censor has most likely been programmed for any word starting with F that has 4 letters to try to capture all the creative ways of typing the F word ..
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I think I understand why you were banned in game.
so enlighten us all Shuffler
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I think I understand why you were banned in game.
In your infinite wisdom.. please share?
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I think if enough people report you, you get muted. If you offended a squad leader, for example, and he/she told his whole squad to report you, I suspect that may be enough to get you muted.
:old: Speaking from experience.
:joystick: I still think Top Gun is only the 3rd best squad IN AH, on my scale. :P
:devil
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Nobody takes enough notice of me to get myself muted :cry
Eat a pie and it will alright :)
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I think if enough people report you, you get muted. If you offended a squad leader, for example, and he/she told his whole squad to report you, I suspect that may be enough to get you muted.
:old: Speaking from experience.
:joystick: I still think Top Gun is only the 3rd best squad in AH, on my scale. :P
:devil
Trolling will get you reported by a whole squad... perhaps you should consider your way?
As shufflers board trolling should make him consider his?
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Trolling will get you reported by a whole squad... perhaps you should consider your way?
As shufflers board trolling should make him consider his?
:frown: Considering way now. :cry
:noid
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:frown: Considering way now. :cry
:noid
Good boy... for a change
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lol .. I was talking to Fuze about someone else and we were both trying to come up with an anti salute if you know what I mean ..
My exact words were "<F> is for fail" like salute ya know.
I then got a warning and thought .. what the heck !!!
So I typed just FAIL into country channel to see if that was the bad word ..
then I got banned for typing it again I guess .. lol.
There are some seriously weird rules around :rolleyes:
You typed something, got a warning, typed something else similar enough and got muted. Sounds like the auto-filter, not a human moderator. If you were exchanging text with a MOD, then is sounds like there's more to it than you are saying here.
The best course of action is to email HTC - support@hitechcreations.com - not a post on the BBS. Seeing all of the replies you got, you now know what these types of matters should be handled via email and not on the BBS.
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I think if enough people report you, you get muted. If you offended a squad leader, for example, and he/she told his whole squad to report you, I suspect that may be enough to get you muted.
:old: Speaking from experience.
:joystick: I still think Top Gun is only the 3rd best squad IN AH, on my scale. :P
:devil
There was only 3 people in the dar ring so I think thats highly unlikely .. plus I doubt the word FAIL could insult a group to warrant such action as that .. lol.
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You typed something, got a warning, typed something else similar enough and got muted. Sounds like the auto-filter, not a human moderator. If you were exchanging text with a MOD, then is sounds like there's more to it than you are saying here.
The best course of action is to email HTC - support@hitechcreations.com - not a post on the BBS. Seeing all of the replies you got, you now know what these types of matters should be handled via email and not on the BBS.
Ok I will email HTC then .. but I think it was the autofilter just took me a while to figure out ..
Not sure if Fuze is a mod ..
Cheers <S>
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DOH! How about keeping your typing fingers quiet? I guarantee a no mute situation everytime. :aok
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I think if enough people report you, you get muted. If you offended a squad leader, for example, and he/she told his whole squad to report you, I suspect that may be enough to get you muted.
:old: Speaking from experience.
:joystick: I still think Top Gun is only the 3rd best squad IN AH, on my scale. :P
:devil
TheFew shade is still lurking, I thought you went into hiding after everyone figured out what squad you came from? :rofl
EDIT: Top Gun could be the worse squad ingame but yet even my inexperienced pilots have put you down many times.
Please try again Few Shade. :ahand
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There was only 3 people in the dar ring so I think thats highly unlikely .. plus I doubt the word FAIL could insult a group to warrant such action as that .. lol.
Squadies do not have to be in the dar ring to follow a COs request on squad channel.
:old: Consider yourself informed on potential sneaky tactics.
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TheFew shade is still lurking, I thought you went into hiding after everyone figured out what squad you came from? :rofl
EDIT: Top Gun could be the worse squad ingame but yet even my inexperienced pilots have put you down many times.
Please try again Few Shade. :ahand
:O Ahhh, said squad leader speaks. :huh
:old: Confess!
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DOH! How about keeping your typing fingers quiet? I guarantee a no mute situation everytime. :aok
but I didnt say anything nasty or derogatory dude .. I am baffled as to why I am getting attacked for this ..
Gonna delete the thread if I can .. if I can't can a mod please delete it.
Cheers
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its mildly amusing when you in some games text someone else in swedish , and soon remember that the game find some words naughty :)
example in swedish - english
slut = end,finish
:rolleyes:
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Years ago the bad word filter warned me that "Wassabi" was a bad word. I was telling a freind how I liked to eat my sushi on green text. Guess HTC is giving us credit for ingenuity that our High School teachers didn't.
It's not like I wrote:
You are a Wassabi as much as your coprolites are the same density as your imagination.
That might have gotten a human mod interested.
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Hey "save", dosen't Sweden have a town named in pronunciation after the biblical hot place?
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The auto sensor will kick out <F>
Fail is not in the list
HiTech
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We knowingly kill other players with guns in this game; a text filter is invalid.
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If memory serves me right any "back talk" to the Mod results in Chat ban
In the future heed the warning , as was stated to me mods are there to have fun as well not babysit you or listen to your back talk.
hope this helps I speak from Experience , TB
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Seriously if a mod is gonna use his powers to mute people for ridiculous things like this then they do not deserve to be a mod at all ... thats just blatant miss use of the role as a moderator.
Agree
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Trolling will get you reported by a whole squad... perhaps you should consider your way?
As shufflers board trolling should make him consider his?
No troll.... the guy just pushes to be banned. All he has to do is call HTC. That is if he truely thinks he did nothing wrong.
From his own post he obviously tried pressing his luck and got banned.
Very simple to understand. Can't make it any easier if you don't.
If memory serves me right any "back talk" to the Mod results in Chat ban
In the future heed the warning , as was stated to me mods are there to have fun as well not babysit you or listen to your back talk.
hope this helps I speak from Experience , TB
^^ This.
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I got muted a couple of years ago for saying i had a nicer butt than some other guy. I guess the mod thought he had a better one than me.
semp
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I got muted a couple of years ago for saying i had a nicer butt than some other guy. I guess the mod thought he had a better one than me.
semp
Duh semp, you have an UGLY butt, hence the ban.
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:huh :lol :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Fart Fart Fart Fart Fart ....hmmmmmm Im good! :rock :rock :rock :rock
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In all my time here I've been warned only once!
I wrote to a player "nice shot" but use the letter just left of the O..... :o
Mods dont abuse their power or they wont be around for long. If you get a warning it's your own fault,if you continue expect to be dealt with. I have Mod powers in the TA,I dont take that lightly and I always warn a player and send a pm to ask them to stop,if they dont well then I do what I have to.
Remember the Mods dont make the rules,they inforce them.
:salute
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Thanks for all the advice
Thank you HiTech :)
I wasn't back talking a mod, it was the auto filter because I wrote <F> ..
would like to know why is <F> bad?
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I've never been muted or even neutered although I encounter many who act as if they have lost theirs.
It's not my game so I play by the rules. The trick is to know the rules, they keep altering or moving. The best thing is there are always the serial posters that will tell you the rules as they see it, but have no stake in the game. the self appointed hall monitors of the BBS. God bless them. Just ask them (no you don't have to ask, because their advice is free and usually not solicited). They know exactly how things work - in their minds.
When I get a PM from the "man" at HTC I sit up and take notice or see a post from him I take notice. Hasn't he posted in this thread? Excuse me all over the place for dismissing all the other "rules" that are only opinions.
Enjoy.
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The auto sensor will kick out <F>
Fail is not in the list
HiTech
HT, I wonder if the auto-censor was off a couple of nights ago, for the first time in game I saw the word c**t (yes, that one) in the buffer (on country), the person concerned wasn't muted, at least for the next 15 mins, he was still typing.
Didn't actually bother me, but was wondering how it got through.
I have a screenshot if you'd like it emailed, not trying to get anyone into trouble, just concerned for the young'uns ;)
Steely
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Have played since 2002. Never been muted.
neither have I..... :D :bolt:
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One does not get chat muted for saying FAIL, you said something else and were reported for it.
Quit whining its only 8 days, been there and done that, or go level your world of warcraft pally in the mean time.
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Probably the best thing to do Nikon is as mentioned is to e-mail HTC. I'd suggest beating it to death here is not productive.
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One does not get chat muted for saying FAIL, you said something else and were reported for it.
Quit whining its only 8 days, been there and done that, or go level your world of warcraft pally in the mean time.
Please remember - never let a chance pass without having a personal attack on someone pass. Not even very witty, Just gold medal puerility. If you're going to sledge someone at least make it readable or new or funny or or or anything.
Beige insult, very beige - let me see your war face - you don't scare me.
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One does not get chat muted for saying FAIL, you said something else and were reported for it.
Quit whining its only 8 days, been there and done that, or go level your world of warcraft pally in the mean time.
I love how people are ASSUMING I said more .. read the text, I got muted for doing <F> which is in the auto filter
Whose whining .. all I simply asked (again read the text) was why was Fail or <F> in the auto filter
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Probably the best thing to do Nikon is as mentioned is to e-mail HTC. I'd suggest beating it to death here is not productive.
I have Guppy .. Hitech also replied in this thread that it was <F> in the auto filter that I got caught on .. I have no idea why <F> would be in there :P
I have also asked that a mod delete this thread ..
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Cool story bro
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Steely, email me the screenie for a laugh.
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One does not get chat muted for saying FAIL, you said something else and were reported for it.
Quit whining its only 8 days, been there and done that, or go level your world of warcraft pally in the mean time.
I was flying around in my F-18 thinking the same thing... no wait that chestnut has already been roasted. I don't think it could sell twice, could it? I'll leave it to others to answer that one.
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Steely, email me the screenie for a laugh.
willdo
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Probably the best thing to do Nikon is as mentioned is to e-mail HTC. I'd suggest beating it to death here is not productive.
... as I suggested.
I have Guppy .. Hitech also replied in this thread that it was <F> in the auto filter that I got caught on .. I have no idea why <F> would be in there :P
I have also asked that a mod delete this thread ..
Not a bad idea Nikon. :aok
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Can't say I understand that at all, Nikon. Check your kills stats and
see if you've hosed anybody more than a couple of times. It might be
their way of gettin' a little payback. :O
You've always been a gentleman on the text buffer and on local vox
whenever I've been in the general area. A pity you get singled out
and for THAT, when there's so much rampant swearin' goin' on by others on a
continual basis.
That mute by the mod is a "FAIL" in my book.
Best regards, Odd
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Can't say I understand that at all, Nikon. Check your kills stats and
see if you've hosed anybody more than a couple of times. It might be
their way of gettin' a little payback. :O
You've always been a gentleman on the text buffer and on local vox
whenever I've been in the general area. A pity you get singled out
and for THAT, when there's so much rampant swearin' goin' on by others on a
continual basis.
That mute by the mod is a "FAIL" in my book.
Best regards, Odd
Hi ODD <S>
No it wasn't a mod that did it.. it was the auto filter .. and I thought it was "fail" that I got done on but it was <F> .. coz I wrote "<F> is for fail"
Its all cleared up .. thanks :)
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... as I suggested.
Not a bad idea Nikon. :aok
I have asked twice now that this thread be deleted .. I find it funny that some of you clearly wish to attack people for such a simple and innocent question, of which I am entitled too.
In future I won't be wasting my time asking questions in the forums when I am fairly confident people like yourself will just roast me. See in the game coz I won't be on here anymore.
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I have asked twice now that this thread be deleted .. I find it funny that some of you clearly wish to attack people for such a simple and innocent question, of which I am entitled too.
In future I won't be wasting my time asking questions in the forums when I am fairly confident people like yourself will just roast me. See in the game coz I won't be on here anymore.
Maybe read again. I did not roast you. I told you that you should contact HTC and not put this on the board.
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Maybe read again. I did not roast you. I told you that you should contact HTC and not put this on the board.
This topic is not new, either, yet every now and then, someone like Shuffler here has to re-explain to the masses what to do. :bhead
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<F> is commonly understood to mean something quite different than 'Fail'. If you did that twice, mod will get you.....if you did it once, and you bought the farm for 'Fail'.......if a human mod kicked you he needs to find another hobby
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Well, I get muted on a fairly regular basis, and admit that I totally bring it upon myself. I've seen LOTS of stuff pass thru the filter that was never caught. Whoever mentioned trying to keep it clean for the kids is exactly right, and we should all try to keep that in mind...As for the tattle tales who have their entire squad report someone to hit some preset threshhold, that is just stupid.....many of these guys are just pissed they are getting owned by some guy with a big mouth...Channel 200 is hilarious, let's keep it that way!
BirdDog
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As is always the case, just because "he got away with it" doesn't mean you should try - it's a game and people play to have fun, not listen to someone's bad judgement, foul language (including misspellings to avoid the auto filter), politics, religion, etc., etc. [read the terms of service and rules of the BBS to find out what's allowed).
If someone habitually breaks these rules, feel free to report them in-game - that's what it's for.
If you think you were muted unjustly, send a detailed email to support@hitechcreations.com and stay off the BBS with it. If HTC decides to revoke your mute, they will mute those responsible.
This thread should have been over a few pages ago, when the OP acknowledged his mistake, understanding of the issue and his future course of action.
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I tried doing <F> awhile ago and it happend to me
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Its at the discretion of the Mod online, just like the umpire in baseball. I've been muted for something that wasn't a curse and I've also watched it come across the chat buffer ALOT. Still I don't repeat it... I've learned to use red text to curse until my squad squelches me for 5 minutes.
Don't tell/request/demand a divine being to promise an object time in hell; ESPECIALLY if you drop the N.
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I just changed my credit card info.. when I get un-muted HTC can have their money.
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And when you come to their house, can read their rules, figure out the ficus in the corner isn't the proper restroom, and take your dirty boots off their coffee table - they'll care.
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I just changed my credit card info.. when I get un-muted HTC can have their money.
If you didn't bother to email them then I hope they never unmute you. It has been said many times if there is a problem email/call HTC. They are the best at customer service.
Baby sitting cry babies, not so much.
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Several threads with the same tenous grip on reality.
Allow me to sum it up.
You pushed the rules, you got a little warning, you pushed again, you got muted, you came here and whined, you got laughed at, you got mad.
You guys enjoy pushing the rules, enjoy your punishment. This aint the game and you aint playing it. Changed your credit card information? Really ?, goodbye, no loss.
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C'mon guys. Let's not make fun of these people. The strength of character, the courage of conviction that it takes to change your credit card information. Wow, I'm actually tearing up a bit here...
These people are heroes, to take a stand for their rights to be the kind of people they are. We shouldn't be mocking them, we should be cheering them on and rallying around them! We must all take a stand against such oppression! For if censorship rears its ugly head in online gaming, the terrorists have truly won!
...Is that more or less what you guys were hoping to hear? :rolleyes: Cry more. It amuses me.
Wiley.
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C'mon guys. Let's not make fun of these people. The strength of character, the courage of conviction that it takes to change your credit card information. Wow, I'm actually tearing up a bit here...
These people are heroes, to take a stand for their rights to be the kind of people they are. We shouldn't be mocking them, we should be cheering them on and rallying around them! We must all take a stand against such oppression! For if censorship rears its ugly head in online gaming, the terrorists have truly won!
...Is that more or less what you guys were hoping to hear? :rolleyes: Cry more. It amuses me.
Wiley.
Wow......
Look in a mirror for the source of all your problems.
:salute
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I'll gladly give HTC another $15 in place of you
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I'll gladly give HTC another $15 in place of you
Want to pay for my account instead? :D
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I just changed my credit card info.. when I get un-muted HTC can have their money.
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You guys enjoy pushing the rules, enjoy your punishment.
As you said, there have been several of these threads recently (maybe I should post this response in all of them :uhoh )...and they got me thinking.
It's not completely wrong to focus on the cardinal points of 'You broke the rules, you get punished, deal with it - and e-mail HTC if you have a problem instead of making a whine thead', because all that is absolutely correct as far as it goes.
The point that I think is being missed, or simply ignored, by most of the self-righteous brigade, is the terrible inconsistency of the moderation. As detailed in the various threads on the subject, there is tons of personal abuse going on in game over both open and private channels. There is a wealth of inappropriate language that gets around the swear-filter while the intended vulgarity still remains completely clear. You see all kinds of ranting and raving about political crap, racism, and the same few people giving orders and attacking people who don't play their way on country channel over and over again.
Shouldn't the moderators be focusing on cleaning up some of that crap (I appreciate that they can't be there all the time and prevent all of it, no need to rehash that particular weak defense) rather than focusing on people like Redbull & Dolby in this thread? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,334657.0.html
Seriously - why is the guy insulting peoples dead family, or the guy saying I hope your first born dies in your arms, or the one letting loose with a torrent of racist bile, not a big deal, but when someone gets muted for referring to someone by their actual ingame name and complains about it, you all jump on your high horses and support the faceless moderators and tell the guy who feels he has been wronged to STFU?
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:old: But the punishment does not fit the crime.
Paying a $15 fine instead would be sufficient justice. :old:
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:rofl :huh :rofl :huh :rofl :huh :rofl :huh :rofl
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Seriously - why is the guy insulting peoples dead family, or the guy saying I hope your first born dies in your arms, or the one letting loose with a torrent of racist bile, not a big deal, but when someone gets muted for referring to someone by their actual ingame name and complains about it, you all jump on your high horses and support the faceless moderators and tell the guy who feels he has been wronged to STFU?
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Sure. I agree with the above. The stuff you mentioned has no place in the game. Yet oddly, there was no thread from them pointing out the above. There was nothing on the forum by any of the parties concerned bemoaning the state of verbal abuse in the game.
What did happen was, they got modded slightly, then proceeded to call the mod out on the public channels. HTC really doesn't seem to stand for that. It's well known, and the people involved have been around long enough to know it. We can argue semantics all day, but the intent behind calling someone a 'sack of cheez-its' is fairly obvious, and they got smacked for it.
Then they came to the forums. What I don't understand is, if everything goes spectacularly right when you post something like this on the forums, what will the result be?
Wiley.
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I got muted for 20 minutes....
for an inoffensive, non directed, not blocked by chat filter.
Comment \ Joke
It wasn't aimed at anyone nor was it overly offensive and was actually a pop culture reference and I got muted...
So..........
Moderaters need to tone it down.
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Hitech needs to buy his anonymous moderators mind reading helmits so they can know the heart of each player before casting judgment upon their communication. It would be the kinder and more supportive solution to this issue so as to avoid angering his guests in any minutia of oversight. That way his guests won't harm the soles of their feet as they stamp them vigourously in their indignant state of richeous ire. All of the moderators should introduce themsleves personaly as Mod1-Mod100 to the targets of their moderation to allow the target to decide if their communication was in fact a mistake or a sin. Then with a smile, politly hand them the e-mail address of HTC and shut off All their in game communications for the next 60 to 6000 minutes.
Anyone ever notice when the game gets into a slow period like this just before a new big release these moderator whines start up. After the release of the new toys along with the problems a new rlease often introduce are the hot topics in here, the moderators will be forgotten again. Everyone will be too busy playing with the new toys and fighting with the unexpected quirks to trigger the mods attentions.
We should really be asking Hitech to tease us more with bit's and peices from the new up coming release than worring about getting moded in the arena. In 10 years I've only been auto moded for the word "wassabi". I've turned off ch200 and don't try to use the local channel to carry on the soap opra of my life in goary Jerseylicious detail.
HTC they obviously don't have enough red guys to shoot at and keep them busy. Idle hands and all that rot.
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but the intent behind calling someone a 'sack of cheez-its' is fairly obvious, and they got smacked for it.
Wiley.
I'm sorry, what in the fudgecakes?!
I was being lighthearted, and I intended it to be lighthearted. Hell before I could type out the : P I was muted.
If I didn't want to be lighthearted I'd've used the correct terms barely edited to get around the filter.
"Assumptions are the mother of all mess ups."
As for Cheese its, ask 1sum41 about the term cheese its. ;)
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I'm sorry, what in the fudgecakes?!
I was being lighthearted, and I intended it to be lighthearted. Hell before I could type out the : P I was muted.
If I didn't want to be lighthearted I'd've used the correct terms barely edited to get around the filter.
"Assumptions are the mother of all mess ups."
As for Cheese its, ask 1sum41 about the term cheese its. ;)
Aaaahhhh now I understand, you want some whine to go with your cheese its.
HiTech
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Aaaahhhh now I understand, you want some whine to go with your cheese its.
HiTech
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Aaaahhhh now I understand, you want some whine to go with your cheese its.
HiTech
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Aaaahhhh now I understand, you want some whine to go with your cheese its.
HiTech
that was a nice burn :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl.
semp
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See rule #4
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I've never been muted or text banned but I did get a warning once for using the clinical name of the male organ and it wasn't in any kind of malevolent way. I mean c'mon, they use that word on daytime and primetime TV.
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I'm sorry, what in the fudgecakes?!
I was being lighthearted, and I intended it to be lighthearted. Hell before I could type out the : P I was muted.
If I didn't want to be lighthearted I'd've used the correct terms barely edited to get around the filter.
"Assumptions are the mother of all mess ups."
As for Cheese its, ask 1sum41 about the term cheese its. ;)
Yup. And assuming people could read your tone and intent through text seems to be the mother of this one.
Wiley.
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I'm sorry, what in the fudgecakes?!
I was being lighthearted, and I intended it to be lighthearted. Hell before I could type out the : P I was muted.
If I didn't want to be lighthearted I'd've used the correct terms barely edited to get around the filter.
"Assumptions are the mother of all mess ups."
As for Cheese its, ask 1sum41 about the term cheese its. ;)
:old: You are not alone.
All of us in chat room jail will just have to keep each other in quiet company contemplating our disappointment that someone misinterpreted a remark or two made with the intent of funnin an enemy pilot.
:old: So it shall be.
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See rule #4
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For quote of a rule #4 violation
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One does not get chat muted for saying FAIL, you said something else and were reported for it.
Quit whining its only 8 days, been there and done that, or go level your world of warcraft pally in the mean time.
Frost mages are better ;)
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did you happen to check your posting above mine? cause you got milk on your upper lip :banana: :banana: :banana:.
semp
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Hitech needs to buy his anonymous moderators mind reading helmits so they can know the heart of each player before casting judgment upon their communication.
That would be a far better option than the current one of failure to post the Rules Of Subscribers as either a MOTD or a required read & check agree or disagree to enter the game. If that were done all of these threads on chat bans, game bans, and questions of rules and in game behavior on the forums would be a completely moot point would it?
As it stands now, the subscribers are the ones forced to purchase a mind reading helmet because the rules, expectations, and the punishments for those offenses are no where to be seen posted in game as a warning. No where. Natta.
Saying that "well, people would say it's not in there" doesn't wash because the forums have 14 Commandments of Rules & Expectations, yet the owner and powers that be are deaf, dumb, and blind on what they expect and demand of subscribers while playing. And the "everything I needed to know about life I learned in kindergarten" spiel becomes even more worthless when you consider exactly what are you entitled to do, your personal responsibilities as a 5 year old, and if you learned about drugs, sex, booze, cohabitation, gambling, and flying in kindergarten I am sure there are a few law enforcement agencies as well as national and cable news outlets that would love to have a word with you.
REALITY: you LEARNED about how to behave and abide by the norms of your school, city, county, state, and nation because of RULE of LAW and posted, administrated, and governed rules, laws, codes, and expectations printed for all to see and abide by as well as the punishments for each infraction.
POST YOUR RULES IN-GAME FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND ABIDE BY AND THEIR PUNISHMENTS.
Anything less smacks of "we make it up as we go along."
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This is just another reason why people should have Ventrilo.
:salute
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POST YOUR RULES IN-GAME FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND ABIDE BY AND THEIR PUNISHMENTS.
You really need a rule to define your behavior? Have you noticed how many people don't log in every day saying they weren't chat banned? Have you seen the arena population on any given day and noticed over the course of a day a few might get muted, and the hundreds the come and go that don't? Is the RULE the problem or the inability to control someones own action the problem?
Edit for bones post.
Absolutely, do what you all want on your own chat channels. I'd be willing to bet that if DrBone hosted his own channel and it turned into noise, drivel and disrupted his ability to play the game, he'd kick you off it :cheers:
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You really need a rule to define your behavior? Have you noticed how many people don't log in every day saying they weren't chat banned? Have you seen the arena population on any given day and noticed over the course of a day a few might get muted, and the hundreds the come and go that don't? Is the RULE the problem or the inability to control someones own action the problem?
Edit for bones post.
Absolutely, do what you all want on your own chat channels. I'd be willing to bet that if DrBone hosted his own channel and it turned into noise, drivel and disrupted his ability to play the game, he'd kick you off it :cheers:
:old: Some have more tolerance than others.
Would using the term "lettuce munching nancy" result in a 200 chat ban? :huh
Who knows and thinks the answer is yes :headscratch:
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Don't be a dick
If we all followed this, there'd be no need for these threads. :aok
Or if someone who has been here this long would actually learn to retain the information on what to do when chat banned. I never see new guys posting these things.... :headscratch:
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If we all followed this, there'd be no need for these threads. :aok
Or if someone who has been here this long would actually learn to retain the information on what to do when chat banned. I never see new guys posting these things.... :headscratch:
Considering a good wingman of mine was muted for saying the exact word you quote is funny.
Just Sayin.
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If we all followed this, there'd be no need for these threads. :aok
Or if someone who has been here this long would actually learn to retain the information on what to do when chat banned. I never see new guys posting these things.... :headscratch:
:old: But don't we all act like one, on occasion, during a moment of weakness whilst traveling the road of life?
Are any of us perfect? :old:
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Considering a good wingman of mine was muted for saying the exact word you quote is funny.
Just Sayin.
I didn't mean just us, but the mods as well. I've been muted for saying something that I could say in church, I've seen people say racist things and keep talking. Reporting is fine, but it's already come across the chat buffer, so whats being done? The children have already seen it. The people have already been enraged by it.. Then you quote Pyro and get muted for 24 hours or so.
BAD AH COMMUNITY! BAD! Quoting an employee... It's much better to talk politics while talking down someones sexual orientation and skin color and throwing in some cursing for a bit of flavor.. at least that's what the mods say! (actions SPEAK louder than words, so let's not argue semantics whom ever might be inclined.) :bhead
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Using the "Reasonable Person Standard" to overseeing our personal conduct via VOX and text versus a contractual agree or dissagree to posted fixed rules is fairer to both parties in this case. Your participation in this fee based game is "At Will". If you are unhappy with the Moderator's interpretation of the "Reasonable Person Standard" in your case, you are free to contact HTC privately or vote your displeasure with a competitor.
Any posting in this forum is simple petty revenge or acknowledging a weak argument against HTC whether after or before contacting HTC. This is either in the delusion of inciting a mob of the like minded to gain a response from HTC through public emberassemnt. Or specificly to argue a need to force HTC to change it's Moderation standards in the hopes of gaining a coalition of the like minded in the face of your failed private discorce with HTC.
Human Moderators may actualy not be in numbers large enough to catch everything at all times being that it's probably a voluntary position. And who would want the job knowing how some of you act in the game and this forum. May be why there is the reporting mechanism associated to each player's name in the roster for us to police ourselves.
These posts are not much different from wanting a participation trophy for falling down, skinning your knee, and wailing louder than anyone else on the feild that day.
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This is just another reason why people should have Ventrilo.
:salute
if 10% of the stuff leaked on Ventrilo came in game or the BBS most of TopGun would be banned for weeks on end, to the point I have my Ventrilo button FAR away from anything in game.
Last thing I want is my dirty little mouth getting muted for saying cheese its on range.
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Would using the term "lettuce munching nancy" result in a 200 chat ban? :huh
I'll have you know that I'm in the process of Copyrighting that saying. From now on you will need expressed and/or written consent to use it in whole or in part.
Thank you very much.
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I'll have you know that I'm in the process of Copyrighting that saying. From now on you will need expressed and/or written consent to use it in whole or in part.
Thank you very much.
:uhoh :cry :frown: :cry :pray
:salute :rock
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As you said, there have been several of these threads recently (maybe I should post this response in all of them :uhoh )...and they got me thinking.
It's not completely wrong to focus on the cardinal points of 'You broke the rules, you get punished, deal with it - and e-mail HTC if you have a problem instead of making a whine thead', because all that is absolutely correct as far as it goes.
The point that I think is being missed, or simply ignored, by most of the self-righteous brigade, is the terrible inconsistency of the moderation. As detailed in the various threads on the subject, there is tons of personal abuse going on in game over both open and private channels. There is a wealth of inappropriate language that gets around the swear-filter while the intended vulgarity still remains completely clear. You see all kinds of ranting and raving about political crap, racism, and the same few people giving orders and attacking people who don't play their way on country channel over and over again.
Shouldn't the moderators be focusing on cleaning up some of that crap (I appreciate that they can't be there all the time and prevent all of it, no need to rehash that particular weak defense) rather than focusing on people like Redbull & Dolby in this thread? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,334657.0.html
Seriously - why is the guy insulting peoples dead family, or the guy saying I hope your first born dies in your arms, or the one letting loose with a torrent of racist bile, not a big deal, but when someone gets muted for referring to someone by their actual ingame name and complains about it, you all jump on your high horses and support the faceless moderators and tell the guy who feels he has been wronged to STFU?
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+2 Boy Im starting to really dislike these gameing fan boy types. Heres a tip, you are the one paying THEM!
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In General, not intended for anyone specific,
We need a yawn emoticon.
Why should it need to be dictated to talk in a reasonable, respectful manner?
These are "Rules" that you should've learned from your Parents. :bhead
Plain and simple.
If you had younger children, would you want them to be in the company of
a drunk, cursing fool? :headscratch:
There are kids that play. If you wanna test Mods, you're gonna lose.
I've never been text/voice muted, that I can recall in 10 yrs. :neener:
Very easy to speak without cursing, try it.
By the way, I curse a lot sometimes. Time and place.
Police yourselves, then someone else won't have to :aok
:cheers: Oz
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We need a yawn emoticon.
Why should it need to be dictated to talk in a reasonable, respectful manner?
These are "Rules" that you should've learned from your Parents. :bhead
Plain and simple.
If you had younger children, would you want them to be in the company of
a drunk, cursing fool? :headscratch:
There are kids that play. If you wanna test Mods, you're gonna lose.
I've never been text/voice muted, that I can recall in 10 yrs. :neener:
Very easy to speak without cursing, try it.
By the way, I curse a lot sometimes. Time and place.
Police yourselves, then someone else won't have to :aok
:cheers: Oz
:old: Some are muted without using curse words.
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:old: Some are muted without using curse words.
They Always get a warning first :aok
:cheers: Oz
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They Always get a warning first :aok
:cheers: Oz
:old: A warning would have been nice.
There was no warning. :frown:
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:old: Some are muted without using curse words.
And some get muted out of shear pitty :neener:
JUGgler
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And some get muted out of shear pitty :neener:
JUGgler
<3 :salute :rock :)
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:old: A warning would have been nice.
There was no warning. :frown:
Once you've gotten banned a time or two they decide that a warning is pointless. You have proven once again that you have no problem pushing the rules and so they have no problem dropping the hammer.
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Once you've gotten banned a time or two they decide that a warning is pointless. You have proven once again that you have no problem pushing the rules and so they have no problem dropping the hammer.
:old: There was no warning the first time.
This is only my 2nd time, again with no warning. :frown:
A warning would have been nice. :aok
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Once you've gotten banned a time or two they decide that a warning is pointless. You have proven once again that you have no problem pushing the rules and so they have no problem dropping the hammer.
BS they give warnings. I was never warned and it wasn't even vulgar "DietyCurseObject" (insert the correct words please) and that got me a 60 minute mute. First time, never warned. I might even have the video, but that would take some digging.
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BS they give warnings. I was never warned and it wasn't even vulgar "DietyCurseObject" (insert the correct words please) and that got me a 60 minute mute. First time, never warned. I might even have the video, but that would take some digging.
Agreed. :frown:
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Yawn :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Have played since 2002. Never been muted.
same here ;the mods don't understand my accent
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:rofl
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I've played off and on since 2002. Never been muted. Never been banned. Have behaved badly some. I don't what what y'all are going on about.
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I've played off and on since 2002. Never been muted. Never been banned. Have behaved badly some. I don't what what y'all are going on about.
I think it's not the muting, it's the wide range of what constitutes a mute from the mods. If Mod A says calling someone a Richard Cranium (in a vulgar form) is fine and people use it for hours and then Mod A logs and Mod B logs in, what was fine before might now get you muted.
I've said far far worse. I've seen you're "slightly bad" and think if I got muted once, without warning, for an hour for the harsh version of GoshDarn-It, then you and a good 80% of those using chat need an hour or more. Which I think by the way is completely ridiculous. Heck, I didn't even use the N... But I'll be darned (haha not getting me again) if I don't see people regularly using the same and they keep on talking. Is there any standard? Does this mod get to be a really really big sphincter if he's mad at me but his buddy over there gets let off? Why exactly does saying certain things constitute a mute? I understand alot of curses, but I can openly, and flagrantly call people Richard Cranium all day. We all know what I mean. My 11yr old niece knows what I mean, so why does that not raise the ire of these mods, but if I typed it out so you don't have to use an extra brain cell, I get my typing and speech privileges revoked.
That is why I even participated here in the first place. I wish I could be in the never been muted club, but I wasn't vulgar enough to be thought of as cool... :cry
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A lot of you guys trying very hard to put the responsibility for how you act, and the limits of it, on someone else.
It's just not that hard to not type something to push the limits. The fact that HTC has to use volunteer babysitters is just downright sad. Maybe they need to put up a signal light before folks enter the arena letting folks know if Mods are in the house or not so they know to be good.
I know at my 3 year olds preschool they have STOP signs up so the kids know where they shouldn't go. But they're 3, but the kids are deaf too so they need the visual cues. I didn't think we had 3 year olds playing AH :)
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Never mass report someone either, not a fun time. :P
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You really need a rule to define your behavior?
Well, your local government thinks it's a requirement. If in America, your local county thinks it's a requirement. If in a school in the US that school mandates that is a requirement. If you live in a large city your local ward and city government knows it's a requirement. If you live in a county or state or nation those places mandate that it's a requirement. Yet, this game (society) feels that no posted rules is fine & dandy yet expects people who subscribe their own cash should have no argument/qualms/expectations when thay are punished for infractions of RULES THAT ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST AND THE INFRACTIONS OF THOSE RULES ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST.
ROC drives down the road and is pulled over by a police officer. The police officer does not inform ROC of what law he has broken nor explains what rights he does or does not have. ROC is stuffed into a paddy wagon with other "rule breakers" but is never told anything. ROC has no trial, is not informed of the "rules" he has broken or even remotely explained what the punishment is. ROC is handed a note weeks later in his cell that says he has been found guilty of a rule enfraction and is sent to punishment (more than rule breakers get in AH even though there are no published rules or email warnings). ROC is expected to never speak of what happened to him in public and never allowed to speak about his never made public "crime". ROC....read Solzhinitzin. In that scenerio you live in the USSR. They have no rights and in our scenerio we have no rights either...except the right to cancel our subscription and go elsewhere. Gulag.
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Well, your local government thinks it's a requirement. If in America, your local county thinks it's a requirement. If in a school in the US that school mandates that is a requirement. If you live in a large city your local ward and city government knows it's a requirement. If you live in a county or state or nation those places mandate that it's a requirement. Yet, this game (society) feels that no posted rules is fine & dandy yet expects people who subscribe their own cash should have no argument/qualms/expectations when thay are punished for infractions of RULES THAT ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST AND THE INFRACTIONS OF THOSE RULES ARE NOT POSTED NOR EXIST.
ROC drives down the road and is pulled over by a police officer. The police officer does not inform ROC of what law he has broken nor explains what rights he does or does not have. ROC is stuffed into a paddy wagon with other "rule breakers" but is never told anything. ROC has no trial, is not informed of the "rules" he has broken or even remotely explained what the punishment is. ROC is handed a note weeks later in his cell that says he has been found guilty of a rule enfraction and is sent to punishment (more than rule breakers get in AH even though there are no published rules or email warnings). ROC is expected to never speak of what happened to him in public and never allowed to speak about his never made public "crime". ROC....read Solzhinitzin. In that scenerio you live in the USSR. They have no rights and in our scenerio we have no rights either...except the right to cancel our subscription and go elsewhere. Gulag.
You do understand you aren't in a public place when you play AH correct? Your comparison isn't a valid one.
Should you ever come into my house I would hope you are on your best behavior just as I would be if I came into yours. I don't need to define my rules in my house, as I'd like to believe most folks are bright enough not to swear in front of the children, put their feet on the furniture, or track mud in on the carpet. I wouldn't think of pushing limits in your house and I'm smart enough not to need you to have a written list on your door. In fact I'd err on the side of even better behavior so as not to offend my host.
Kinda common sense don't you think?
And no, 15 bucks a month doesn't give you permission to be an idiot. You don't like being in the house, you are welcome to leave. You may leave screaming about the injustice of it all, but it won't really matter so why waste your time. It's not going to change the rules in my house.
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If you need a rule to keep you from saying/texting something that is deemed inappropriate for young listeners/viewers that play this game then you should go now and slap your mommy for not teaching you manners.
Lambo
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Umm, geezer, I don't know if you are serious or are arguing for the sake of arguing. It should be embarrassing to have so little self control that one can argue in favor of a rule that defines what is an acceptable way of conducting oneself. There still exists, for some, a level of pride and decency that goes beyond what someone else thinks about you, but is rooted in what you think of yourself.
There is already an acceptable code of conduct in the game. If you are unable to comprehend what that is by now, the problem might not be in the rule, or lack thereof.
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Boy Im getting tired of the official party line when at least most of us know how the world works.
Billy and Bobby can say certain things while Jimmy and Johnny cant. Cause Billy and Bobby are tight with Tommy. Or at least hang in the same tree stand as Tommy.
There, I said what we all know but havnt said. Its that simple. We see it at work and all thru life. But the thing is we are the ones paid to go to work. One "Pays" to play a game and to ask for equity is not unreasonable.
As for me I stay off the comms. I listen to radios and talk to people all day and it gives me a headache. I just want a cartoon airplane and clear sky.
But good grief! Why do I have to explain all this while hearing the same manifesto every other post? We all know the deal here.
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Geezer, I see you joined boards in January.
In case you didn't see yet, each Forum has the rules
for posting at the very top of the Forum.
These same rules seems to me, would apply IN-game as well (to the extent
that they can).
In any game/forum, there are set rules/standards of conduct.
The rules here are basically common sense, not too demanding.
There are always people that want to push or test the rules,
to see what they can get away with.
This is HT's house (as Guppy stated). Live by the rules, or pay the price.
We all know that if one feels unjustly punished, send the email to HT.
If you were unjustly punished, it will be taken care of.
P.S. Some of his posts have made me conclude that, not only is Daddkev always nude,
he is a Loony as well :rofl :neener:
:cheers:Oz
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I think it's not the muting, it's the wide range of what constitutes a mute from the mods. If Mod A says calling someone a Richard Cranium (in a vulgar form) is fine and people use it for hours and then Mod A logs and Mod B logs in, what was fine before might now get you muted.
I've said far far worse. I've seen you're "slightly bad" and think if I got muted once, without warning, for an hour for the harsh version of GoshDarn-It, then you and a good 80% of those using chat need an hour or more. Which I think by the way is completely ridiculous. Heck, I didn't even use the N... But I'll be darned (haha not getting me again) if I don't see people regularly using the same and they keep on talking. Is there any standard? Does this mod get to be a really really big sphincter if he's mad at me but his buddy over there gets let off? Why exactly does saying certain things constitute a mute? I understand alot of curses, but I can openly, and flagrantly call people Richard Cranium all day. We all know what I mean. My 11yr old niece knows what I mean, so why does that not raise the ire of these mods, but if I typed it out so you don't have to use an extra brain cell, I get my typing and speech privileges revoked.
That is why I even participated here in the first place. I wish I could be in the never been muted club, but I wasn't vulgar enough to be thought of as cool... :cry
Do you understand how the system works?
There are a list of words/phrases that are completely taboo. The "F" word and others that are not used in "polite company". Those on the list are AUTOMATIC. When you type them you get smacked by the server, NOT a MOD. There is also a list that has those words that are questionable but people use to skirt around the "rules". That's why it's a problem when you combine F4U with some words. The Server see's it as using one of these "tricks" to get around the rules and will AUTOMATICALLY smack you.
Then there are the MODs themselves. My GUESS is HTC has set rules for these people. They most likely are along the lines of "Let them play, but stop anything before it gets out of hand". So if you call someone a "name" and then let it go you may get away with it. If you push the issue and things get going the MOD steps in.....if one is on. If you call someone a name and let it drop EVERY TIME you get shot down I would think that it would get to be annoying and as we are dealing with a "human being MOD" you might get muted just for being annoying (Tho Midway seems to get past this a lot). While MODs are not perfect, even the nicest easy going guy is going to get tired of being poked.
I've been here since tour 21 and have never been warned or muted. There are rules of common sense and polite society. If a person can't figure out how to act with out getting "smacked" by the server or a MOD here, I'd love to follow them around in real life and watch them get smacked around there. :devil
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If we all followed this, there'd be no need for these threads. :aok
Or if someone who has been here this long would actually learn to retain the information on what to do when chat banned. I never see new guys posting these things.... :headscratch:
Pyro never said this.
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Rich52: I would love to have 100% repeatability. But we live in the real world. Some times mods are on, some times not. Some time mods are in your country some times not. Some times mods are busy fighting, some times not.
So i understand the desire of consistency, we live in the real world where the system never will attain that.
Mods are simply players who have proven themselves to be level headed. They simply agree to moderate when they are playing.
The other system is player driven. If mods are not on, all players can choose if some one is crossing the line with the .report system.
But this topic has nothing to do with humans, and is 100% consistant. the OP and mute was done by a compute. So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.
HiTech
HiTech
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The Fugitive has the right of it.
I've been here for over ten years, though I play a lot less nowadays, and I have never even been warned about language, let alone actually muted.
People also need to understand that the 1st Amendment of the Bill of Rights applies only to government censorship and not at all to private censorship.
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So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.
HiTech
HiTech
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Rich52: I would love to have 100% repeatability. But we live in the real world. Some times mods are on, some times not. Some time mods are in your country some times not. Some times mods are busy fighting, some times not.
So i understand the desire of consistency, we live in the real world where the system never will attain that.
Mods are simply players who have proven themselves to be level headed. They simply agree to moderate when they are playing.
The other system is player driven. If mods are not on, all players can choose if some one is crossing the line with the .report system.
But this topic has nothing to do with humans, and is 100% consistant. the OP and mute was done by a compute. So in this case you are way off base, because he was warned by the computer. He typed the same thing again, and he was muted.
HiTech
HiTech
and this is why I'll never get to be a MOD :x
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I've been muted once or twice in 10 years, once or twice I've had 8 day mute... Sometimes things get out of hand and you get muted, boohoo its a lesson to learn in life.
Imagine if Hitech decided to cancel your account for being an ass? A mute is a far simple punishment, some will whine "But I can't check 6" well this goes back to stop being an ass.
I do know some games that will perm shut down your account over it, take your punishment like you deserve and quit whining.
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I got muted once because I said "nice shot"... except I was in a hurry (and maybe even in a Hurri) and I actually said
nice (http://www.boycottmag.com/media/dog-poop.jpg)
And it's all like STOP ALL THE PROFANITY, HOOLIGAN....
And irl I says to myself SON OF A HO'ER... And so I type it out again..... because frankly, the guy DID make a nice shot...
But, instead of typing out "nice shot" I was flustered and fingerbanged the kb again and said:
nice (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nZ2yy2zG2D0/T4rZSol6xtI/AAAAAAAAAFw/mbQSSd2GAaY/s1600/Dog+Pooping.JPG)
And THEN, my wife comes and in says "Geez, stop cussing your window is open you dirty white trash."
(http://www.wallpapersforiphone.com/uploads/wallpapers/2012/03/26/474/thumb_big_iphone_6c53bde916684a795f26c0216388f201.jpg)
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Oh geez :rofl
:cheers: Oz