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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Rob52240 on June 07, 2012, 01:55:33 PM
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Kamakazi
I know it's not offensive but it is used incessantly on the wishlist. The filters seem to do a pretty good job of removing foul language so why not add Kamakazi to that list?
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Might help to actually spell it properly...
But other than that, "no."
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I think a more fitting solution is to just ignore threads about it. They aren't going to stop, and even if it is filtered, you'll still understand what it is in context.
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Might help to actually spell it properly...
But other than that, "no."
Don't mind my speling
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...Why? :headscratch:
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ok we can filter Kamkazi, but not kamikaze
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why is it such a big deal???
there have been a number of times where I was damaged and wished I could've rammed the enemy's ships
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why is it such a big deal???
there have been a number of times where I was damaged and wished I could've rammed the enemy's ships
We all ready have lankstukas why would we want Lancakazes?
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Rubber Duck
I know it's not offensive but it is used incessantly on the wishlist. The filters seem to do a pretty good job of removing foul language so why not add Kamakazi to that list?
its the new rubber duck
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We all ready have lankstukas why would we want Lancakazes?
Because he's new, and hasn't progressed to the point of realizing that something won fairly is worth something won questionably ten times over.
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-1 i don't have a problem with this word being used, however
jap was filtered out in fighter ace because of the higher proportion of japanese players and to them it is offensive like calling lusche a nazi because he is German.
Many US types think nothing of it because it was used during the war but it is 2012 ;)
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-1 why would you want to ban Kamikaze? Might as well ban "puff ack"
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-1 i don't have a problem with this word being used, however
jap was filtered out in fighter ace because of the higher proportion of japanese players and to them it is offensive like calling lusche a nazi because he is German.
Many US types think nothing of it because it was used during the war but it is 2012 ;)
The irony here is that the word "Jap" was looked at for what it is (simply an abbreviation) before Japan started bombing everyone they could reach... and NOW it's offensive... :rofl
I work for Mitsubishi (a subsidiary anyway) and actual Japanese nationals have about 10,000 thicker skin than "Japanese-Americans" (don't even get me started on the whole hyphen-American thing).
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My first response is "why"? My second was "nanny state," so perhaps I should leave it there and not go with my third...
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The irony here is that the word "Jap" was looked at for what it is (simply an abbreviation) before Japan started bombing everyone they could reach... and NOW it's offensive... :rofl
I work for Mitsubishi (a subsidiary anyway) and actual Japanese nationals have about 10,000 thicker skin than "Japanese-Americans" (don't even get me started on the whole hyphen-American thing).
Sooo...Its more like calling Lusche a 'Germ'?
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Don't mind my speling
we had a thread on that already
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Sooo...Its more like calling Lusche a 'Germ'?
More like Jerry or Kraut, neither of which are appropriate. Jap I suspect is more often used as an abbreviation, because I doubt many realize that it has become a derogatory term.
Those terms when used as slang, are not appropriate to use to address someone of their respective nationality.
Kamikaze is not derogatory, at least by itself in a sentence. The problem lies in how callously many treat the term. In historical reference if a Japanese pilot intentionally crashed into the enemy in order to destroy himself and his adversary he is just that. (The Japanese did not use this term, though) That's appropriate.
Asking in the wishlists to be able to become a kamikaze is totally inappropriate because of how lightly that concept is obviously being taken. We're cartoon pilots dying doesn't hurt. This is what i suspect you want a ban for, but it is not the word that's the problem, it is the childish and frivolous way that it seems to come up over and over "specifically" in the wishlist.
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lets just call everyone "gringo" and that settles it.
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Yeah but nobody is calling a modern day Japanese or German a "Jap" or a "Nazi". Even most German pilots, soldiers, and especially sailors, in WW2 werent "Nazis". They were just kids with no option when the letter came. All Japanese at the time were indoctrinated into a strict,racist military nation family starting at birth. Were playing a game in a Historical context anyways and when its used its used in WW2 vernacular, and not even very often. Personally I'd get tired of always having to hit all the keys all the time J-A-P-A-N-E-S-E.
Considering the worldwide slaughter that happened at the time it seems kinda hypocritical. You can call us "Ameri's" any time you want. We werent exactly a perfect nation thruout history either and nobody is talking about modern time.
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Yeah but nobody is calling a modern day Japanese or German a "Jap" or a "Nazi". Even most German pilots, soldiers, and especially sailors, in WW2 werent "Nazis". They were just kids with no option when the letter came. All Japanese at the time were indoctrinated into a strict,racist military nation family starting at birth. Were playing a game in a Historical context anyways and when its used its used in WW2 vernacular, and not even very often. Personally I'd get tired of always having to hit all the keys all the time J-A-P-A-N-E-S-E.
Considering the worldwide slaughter that happened at the time it seems kinda hypocritical. You can call us "Ameri's" any time you want. We werent exactly a perfect nation thruout history either and nobody is talking about modern time.
if the abbreviation is your problem then say JP instead of the other.
You can call me limey fog breather (perdweeb's favourite) all you want, It is water off a ducks back but I know for a fact that they are a little susceptible to it and as a very proud nation they shouldn't have to come on here and be subjected to it from a bunch of redneck, hill billy yanks!!! :D
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I just tell my UK pals on vox that I love their French accent :D
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if the abbreviation is your problem then say JP instead of the other.
You can call me limey fog breather (perdweeb's favourite) all you want, It is water off a ducks back but I know for a fact that they are a little susceptible to it and as a very proud nation they shouldn't have to come on here and be subjected to it from a bunch of redneck, hill billy yanks!!! :D
See! Another insult. Some of us are city, gangster Yanks and I find your generalization very offensive. :cry
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if the abbreviation is your problem then say JP instead of the other.
You can call me limey fog breather (perdweeb's favourite) all you want, It is water off a ducks back but I know for a fact that they are a little susceptible to it and as a very proud nation they shouldn't have to come on here and be subjected to it from a bunch of redneck, hill billy yanks!!! :D
Redneck and Hillbilly are only insults to those who are neither .
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I suppose it is a matter of context and perspective.
If I refer to the "Jap" planes in the game, it is an abbreviation.
If I have a conversation with my grandfather (who served on a tanker in WWII), the word "Jap" (when he uses it) has an entirely different meaning... :o
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ok lets flip it, your japanese can't read hardly any English,
stumble into a conversation in game where you recognise blah blah jap this blah blah jap that. What are these horrible american dogs saying? $$%£$
these players are pretty important to keep the arena ticking over off hours whilst you lot are fast asleep and it is a simple request to not un-intentionally alienate more subscribers!!!
JP = fine!
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ok lets flip it, your japanese can't read hardly any English,
stumble into a conversation in game where you recognise blah blah jap this blah blah jap that. What are these horrible american dogs saying? $$%£$
these players are pretty important to keep the arena ticking over off hours whilst you lot are fast asleep and it is a simple request to not un-intentionally alienate more subscribers!!!
JP = fine!
Was there an official complaint Bruv or is this just a current crusade type thing? Cause it sounds pretty frivolous to me, and apparently everyone else.
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you could call it a crusade, I just think off hours whilst the arena changes have helped it doesn't do any harm to encourage growth in other parts of the world. With no other language support it must be extremely difficult for any sort of help / training and when the locals can't even refrain from using 3 letters its more about common decency than anything else.
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Would it not also filter the word Japanese, as well?
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Linguistically I dont see how its any different from Brit, and I'll carry on using the shortened forms of both, respectfully.
campaigns to stop the usage of words like this usually come down to a desire from the subjects not to be discussed at all. if someone wants to self-censor or engage in some kind of cultural denial thats fine, just dont expect me to sign up for it too :)
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you could call it a crusade, I just think off hours whilst the arena changes have helped it doesn't do any harm to encourage growth in other parts of the world. With no other language support it must be extremely difficult for any sort of help / training and when the locals can't even refrain from using 3 letters its more about common decency than anything else.
Let me ask you something. If the word Limey really offender you, as the "N" words offends many in the world, would changing the alowable spelling to "Lim", or "Li", really make a difference?
I can think of 100 things, offhand without even thinking, about what would encourage growth in this game and almost every one of them includes airframes, graphics, or gameplay. Were it my business I'd throw in advertisement into the mix. But theres one thing I know for sure and thats changing the term "Jap" to "JP" wouldnt get one new Japanese player.
On a positive note however your point is not quite as irrelevant as banning the word "kamakazi" in the forums. At least your taking a moral stand. A silly one, but even silly ones show character.
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ok we can filter Kamkazi, but not kamikaze
ban bonsai charges also :P
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ban bonsai charges also :P
You mean bonnsigh right? :cool:
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Let me ask you something. If the word Limey really offender you ... would changing the alowable spelling to "Lim", or "Li", really make a difference?
thats different because limey is a nickname, not the shortened form of the nationality. english favours 2 syllable words given the chance. hence the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots. note that only Scottish is commonly shortened because the longer form is too clumsy for everyday use, it doesnt scan well in conversation. in the same way we shorten Czechoslovakian to Czech, or Japanese to Jap. sometimes there arent enough syllables for the short form to work well, so british english favours adding a -y or -ie sound to a word to pad it out, hence Argentinian to Argie and Pakistani to Paki. the last example is the closest to Jap in terms of attempts to ban a word by the people it represents.
edit: btw I dont appreciate my language being manipulated for political reasons and am happy to make a stand. If these shortened forms are not allowed, fair enough, rules are rules. I will, however, insist that I am known as a Citizen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland rather than a Brit ...
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SOo what does any of this have to do with a joke thread about banning the word Kamikaze for being wished for too much?
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thats different because limey is a nickname, not the shortened form of the nationality. english favours 2 syllable words given the chance. hence the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots. note that only Scottish is commonly shortened because the longer form is too clumsy for everyday use, it doesnt scan well in conversation. in the same way we shorten Czechoslovakian to Czech, or Japanese to Jap. sometimes there arent enough syllables for the short form to work well, so british english favours adding a -y or -ie sound to a word to pad it out, hence Argentinian to Argie and Pakistani to Paki. the last example is the closest to Jap in terms of attempts to ban a word by the people it represents.
edit: btw I dont appreciate my language being manipulated for political reasons and am happy to make a stand. If these shortened forms are not allowed, fair enough, rules are rules. I will, however, insist that I am known as a Citizen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland rather than a Brit ...
My ex-wife didn't appreciate my abbreviating the phrase "can't understand normal thinking" (when describing her) to it's acronym , either... :headscratch:
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:lol
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My ex-wife didn't appreciate my abbreviating the phrase "can't understand normal thinking" (when describing her) to it's acronym , either... :headscratch:
My wife becomes upset when I throw a "g" in place of the "c" to describe the unfortunate merging of the gut with that region on some heifer or other.
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My wife becomes upset when I throw a "g" in place of the "c" to describe the unfortunate merging of the gut with that region on some heifer or other.
Every time I hear the term you describe, I :rofl
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ban bonsai charges also :P
Tiny trees really that dangerous? :lol
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Tiny trees really that dangerous? :lol
:lol :aok
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ZaZan !
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Tiny trees really that dangerous? :lol
:aok