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Title: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Shifty on June 16, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Writeup can be found HERE (http://ahevents.org/fso-setups/37-pacific-theatre/886-changing-of-the-guard.html)

Dates:

July 6th
July 13th
July 20th

Squadron Registration opens June 23rd and closes June 29th.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: branch37 on June 16, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
 :x :x

 :aok
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: HighTone on June 17, 2012, 12:02:26 AM
Awesome looking setup Shifty. This one is going to be a blast  :cheers:
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: ELD66 on June 17, 2012, 01:28:24 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: daddog on June 17, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Very nice Shifty! You and the FSO team have been going way beyond anything I used to eek out for FSO.  :salute  :cheers:
Question. Where did you get that P38 splash on the design page? That is a beauty. Would love to have that hanging in my study. :)
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Stampf on June 17, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
Very nice Shifty! You and the FSO team have been going way beyond anything I used to eek out for FSO.  :salute  :cheers:
Question. Where did you get that P38 splash on the design page? That is a beauty. Would love to have that hanging in my study. :)

It is truly a great image, agreed.

Nice work, Shifty.



Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Shifty on June 17, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Very nice Shifty! You and the FSO team have been going way beyond anything I used to eek out for FSO.  :salute  :cheers:
Question. Where did you get that P38 splash on the design page? That is a beauty. Would love to have that hanging in my study. :)

Thanks guys. Daddog the current FSO team is just attempting to carry on the great tradition of quality that you guys before us made the standard.
 :salute
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Butcher on June 17, 2012, 10:36:35 AM
Pretty nice setup, looking forward to this FSO :)
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: oakranger on June 17, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
 :O

This looks like a good one, shifty.  Hope it is one of the better PTO.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: surfinn on June 18, 2012, 04:03:58 PM
 :aok   One of these days I would love to see a FSO with the FM2 included as well though.  :t
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: perdue3 on June 18, 2012, 08:41:33 PM
Lots of Zekes.

Looks like a good challenge for the Axis.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Butcher on June 18, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
:aok   One of these days I would love to see a FSO with the FM2 included as well though.  :t

I think those are the late war ones from what I can remember, the F4u-4 is allowed *I think*, although I'd have to go back to the last year in FSO's, where Hellcats got to escort B-29s.

/Yeah we didn't quite "escort" as they escorted us.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: perdue3 on June 18, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
My math is correct.

Considering 150 Allies v 150 Axis, I have come up with the following:

Allies are allowed a max of 24 Spit 5s, 70% USMC F4U's (this number could be anywhere from 20-35), and 28 P-38s. Axis are allowed 38 Ki-61s. Doesn't seem very compatible.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Butcher on June 19, 2012, 12:47:52 AM
My math is correct.

Considering 150 Allies v 150 Axis, I have come up with the following:

Allies are allowed a max of 24 Spit 5s, 70% USMC F4U's (this number could be anywhere from 20-35), and 28 P-38s. Axis are allowed 38 Ki-61s. Doesn't seem very compatible.

As in real life Ki-61s wouldn't fair well against Spit 5s, F4u-1's or P38Gs, let alone A6m3s Ki-43s or A6m5s. How can you make it balanced since these are the mid-war fighters for the Japanese? add more Ki-61s? We need Ki-43s since Ki-61s were not exactly the main fighter here, an Early model Ki-61 perhaps, however not a late war model.

Realistically speaking at this point in the war, american 4 engines were more of a threat to japanese fighters then American Fighters were.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: branch37 on June 20, 2012, 08:46:31 AM
In my experience the Ki-61 has always been the hardest to deal with of all the Japanese fighters.  It's more than capable if flown correctly. 
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: STXAce8 on June 20, 2012, 09:20:05 AM
It will be rare to see any F4Fs in this set up, even though it was one of the allies main fighters in PTO around this time.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: HighTone on June 20, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
As in real life Ki-61s wouldn't fair well against Spit 5s, F4u-1's or P38Gs, let alone A6m3s Ki-43s or A6m5s. How can you make it balanced since these are the mid-war fighters for the Japanese? add more Ki-61s? We need Ki-43s since Ki-61s were not exactly the main fighter here, an Early model Ki-61 perhaps, however not a late war model.

Realistically speaking at this point in the war, american 4 engines were more of a threat to Japanese fighters then American Fighters were.

I dunno I think the Ki61 matches up well enough to those allied planes. Unfortunately we are still in need of a ton of Japanese Army aircraft to make completely realistic setups.

I surely hope my squad gets a fairly larger amount of Ki61 and Zeke 3's to make up for all the German "Junk" we had to fly last month.  :rock
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Butcher on June 20, 2012, 09:47:37 AM
I dunno I think the Ki61 matches up well enough to those allied planes. Unfortunately we are still in need of a ton of Japanese Army aircraft to make completely realistic setups.

I surely hope my squad gets a fairly larger amount of Ki61 and Zeke 3's to make up for all the German "Junk" we had to fly last month.  :rock

Yeah it kind of sucks, there are plenty of aircraft that could fill the gap Ki-45 and Ki-43s, early model Ki-61's would be realistic, maybe throw a Ki-44 squadron (even though they wern't in the area) for Buff interceptions.
It would certainly bring more energy into the PTO, as well as plenty of aircraft match ups.

Then again more I think about it, having 20mm version Ki-61 is balancing out the scenario since they actually are Late war not Mid war, but it does give japan a slight edge in firepower.
Title: Re: July FSO Changing of the Guard
Post by: Ruah on June 29, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
have you ever feared a 61 in a F4U even in the MA?  Add alt, squad and coordination and that initial answer is only magnified.  As with every PTO scenario, it is just going to be a fight to see if we can at least keep it interesting (for us, for the allies it is always a turkey shoot).  

And chasing down TBM that basically out run everything but the KI 61 is going to be interesting again.

Not complaining. . . it is always fun because it is FSO - but PTO for the Axis is just our side doing our penitence for playing on the 'wrong side'.

And you know what - I relish the challenge - but don't anyone start trying to put lipstick on this pig and the attempt by some in this thread to do so is bs. and that is why I wrote this.

anyway, see ya in the sky!