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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: titanic3 on July 06, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
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Hmm, if its one thing I suck at, it's dive bombing. P38s and 109G14 are the only planes that I'll carry a bomb around. What do I use as an aiming point in these planes?
And by "suck", I mean miss the target by 100 ft suck.
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Hmm, if its one thing I suck at, it's dive bombing. P38s and 109G14 are the only planes that I'll carry a bomb around. What do I use as an aiming point in these planes?
And by "suck", I mean miss the target by 100 ft suck.
Go to NE bases in TA, there's an airspawn for the bases there, N spawn, or NE maybe.
In TA Lead Computing Gunsight is on for rockets and bombs, three or five runs you get a sense of where it is.
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I'm incredibly mediocre at dive bombing, but the biggest thing that helps me is watching the dive angle. At least 70°, and preferably 80°, will get you quite close. Make sure the ball is centered (no slip or skid) and your wings are level (look through the up or up/forward view and make sure the horizon is level). And no G loading! Pitch should be centered, or very close to it, when you release.
Start your bomb run at least 8,000 feet above the target. That should provide enough time to get the parameters right and still drop at 2,000 AGL or better. As you get better you can change the angle and start altitude and still get hits.
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A lot of its feel, unless you want to use one precise dive angle, speed, etc.
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Hmm, I'll try it out in the TA today. If I still can't get it right, I'll look for a trainer. :)
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I'll bomb any where from 45 to 90. The shallower the angle, the lower in the view your target needs to be. "IF" your site is centered, picture the old "double dot" site. The lower dot is if your at almost 90 degrees and the point moves lower toward the cowl as you flatten your approach. It's not much of a change in the view. At 45 degrees I drop just as the target disappears under my nose. Also as stated, zero G and zero rudder slip.
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I'm incredibly mediocre at dive bombing, but the biggest thing that helps me is watching the dive angle. At least 70°, and preferably 80°, will get you quite close. Make sure the ball is centered (no slip or skid) and your wings are level (look through the up or up/forward view and make sure the horizon is level). And no G loading! Pitch should be centered, or very close to it, when you release.
Start your bomb run at least 8,000 feet above the target. That should provide enough time to get the parameters right and still drop at 2,000 AGL or better. As you get better you can change the angle and start altitude and still get hits.
How do you know what angle you are at when you are diving?
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How do you know what angle you are at when you are diving?
You set up your dive angle by picking the proper point to start your dive. You check the angle by looking at the horizon with your side view.
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Estimate and gut-feeling.
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Hmm, if its one thing I suck at, it's dive bombing. P38s and 109G14 are the only planes that I'll carry a bomb around. What do I use as an aiming point in these planes?
And by "suck", I mean miss the target by 100 ft suck.
We can help fix that . Come fly with the 113th Lucky Strikes, We will show you how to take down any hanger in one pass using the P38L. Check out some of the films on our wiki page. We fly on Saturday nights 7PM EDST we fly as Knights in the Late War arena. 113 on the vox. Come wing up for a flight, or an hour or two.
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For anyone who is Bish, can get you ship-shape in 1 sortie. Would be glad to help. Catch in the MA.
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Another thing to remember regarding dive bombing accuracy is rudder calibration. If that's not spot on you can think and look like you are lined up but actually not be lined up on the target.
Rudder will effect bullet trajectory but not the paths or bombs and rockets. This is very easy to see in the TA with the training aid you see there for those rockets and bombs.
http://www.fw190.org/training1.htm
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fuseman....on your website, under the 10 year anniversary tab, you have a member identified as joker. As in Joker's Jokers?
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fuseman....on your website, under the 10 year anniversary tab, you have a member identified as joker. As in Joker's Jokers?
No, No, ABSOLUTELY NOT
Joker is a life long member of The Specialists. Macks, you may be referring to J0KER, apples and oranges.
[finishing with this hijack.]
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I made a Dive bombing range terrain if you are interested fellas:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330590.msg4336987.html#msg4336987
The link is to page 3 of the thread because it has the latest terrain version but I suggest reading the entire thread if you want all the details. :salute
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Cool! Thanks Ranger :aok
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Cool, thanks for tips. I used a dive bombing gunsight (provided by Rob, thanks) which helps a bit. I can land it in the general area consistently, but not direct hits on tanks. The bigger bombs will get me kills, but the smaller ones that require direct hits, I've yet to master. Someday. :)
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Old link for the terrain was no longer working, so here it is reloaded:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xml7foeetwclm8b
:salute
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Usranger, just wondering in the Tank gunnery range, are the tanks supposed to blow up like in the regular MA? Would this be a good place to go and see what the weaknesses are for each vehicle? or Where the best place to hit a vehicle is? :headscratch:
Not complaining mind you, the "range" is great and i have improved my Dive bombing significantly. :aok
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made a video that shows a little bit not the best as the objects couldnt be destroyed but I think itll help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kx9abwhfec (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kx9abwhfec)
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Usranger, just wondering in the Tank gunnery range, are the tanks supposed to blow up like in the regular MA? Would this be a good place to go and see what the weaknesses are for each vehicle? or Where the best place to hit a vehicle is? :headscratch:
Not complaining mind you, the "range" is great and i have improved my Dive bombing significantly. :aok
You can set damage to match the main arenas when you use a terrain offline or in a custom arena.
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You can set damage to match the main arenas when you use a terrain offline or in a custom arena.
Thanks FLS
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Estimate and gut-feeling.
Isn't that called "Using the Force"? ;)
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Isn't that called "Using the Force"? ;)
Hahah, kinda. I've never heard someone whispering over my shoulder, telling me when to pickle, but I can't prove its impossible.
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made a video that shows a little bit not the best as the objects couldnt be destroyed but I think itll help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kx9abwhfec (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kx9abwhfec)
Can you post a link to your bomb sight and explain the marks on it?
thanks
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uh those are just some guns sites i have in the game the marks mean nothing. and to be honest I dont use them.
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Sometimes, I see guys able to dive bomb low and slow. I cannot do that. The general rule for dive bombing is dive angle and distance to target (along with a starting speed.
This is what I do. I never miss when I do this. SOmetimes, I roll in under 200 speed and it does throw off your aim point. But if you stick to the below as your foundation for dive bombing, it should get you in target. Generally, I use the F6f with 1000 pounders.
The best thing to do is energy build a LITTLE bit.
1. Get your speed up to 200...
2. Be at LEAST 4000ft AGL
3. Diver in at a 40 degree angle.
4. Place the bottom of your glass on the target.
5. Release your bomb at approx. 800ft from target.
Hope this helps you!
:rock
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I'm by no means deadly with the bombs but I would say its about feel and also this: in a dive the spot on the ground that is not moving up or down on your wind shield is where you would hit on the trajectory your on. You can begin to get a feel by concentrating on that spot and where the bombs end up. If your in a vertical dive that spot is pretty close to where the bombs land.
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Hmm, if its one thing I suck at, it's dive bombing. P38s and 109G14 are the only planes that I'll carry a bomb around. What do I use as an aiming point in these planes?
And by "suck", I mean miss the target by 100 ft suck.
I have a technique that I use every time with great success.
1. Climb to 10k above the target. This will help you get above most of the defenses. You will be a sitting duck when your heavy with eggs.
2. Once your near the target roll inverted
3. Glance at the artificial horizon to make sure your nose level
4. Place the target in your forward-up view, 1/2 way between the center of your screen and the top of your screen.
5. Pull into a steep dive
6. Roll upright
7. Line up the target.
At this point you will be in a 70-80 degree dive angle and building speed quickly. Here is where you need to practice to get a feel for when to release your eggs. I can usually place the target just a hair belown the center dot and nail the target with my eggs everytime. I still compress out and die sometimes, but that just means I should have released sooner.
This technique is worthless for hitting GVs
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WW2 NAVY training film on divebombing.
http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/DiveBombing.html