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Title: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Majors on July 07, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
Holy Mackerel!!!   

Me410 is nice, but didn't serve a heck of a lot in WWII.  Beaufighter did the whole war!!  What do the HiTech guys have against this aircraft?

Cheers anyway.

Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in the RAF!
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Lusche on July 07, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
Me410 is nice, but didn't serve a heck of a lot in WWII.  Beaufighter did the whole war!!  What do the HiTech guys have against this aircraft?


They did not decide it.

We did. The 410 won the vote :)
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Majors on July 07, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
Must have had a lot of pages missing in your history books!!!

Cheers mate.


Majors
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Lusche on July 07, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
Must have had a lot of pages missing in your history books!!!

Cheers mate.


Majors

Not more than you  :P
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: bozon on July 08, 2012, 06:13:52 AM

They did not decide it.

We did. The 410 won the vote :)
Classic developers trick. If the players vote happens to be what the devs already decided, everyone are happy. If not, the developers continue with their decision and file the players choice for minor consideration sometime in the future.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: R 105 on July 08, 2012, 07:14:04 AM
 Elections have consequences. If you did not vote you can't complain and you end up with the ME-410. Next time there is a vote show up and and cast your ballot for your choice. Bring a like minded friend to vote with you. Then maybe you will end up with what you wanted. I did not vote for the 410 I was a Yak-3 guy.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: MK-84 on July 08, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
Classic developers trick. If the players vote happens to be what the devs already decided, everyone are happy. If not, the developers continue with their decision and file the players choice for minor consideration sometime in the future.

So you're saying HTC tricked us.  There of course was no chance it was an actual vote?
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: FLS on July 08, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
Classic developers trick. If the players vote happens to be what the devs already decided, everyone are happy. If not, the developers continue with their decision and file the players choice for minor consideration sometime in the future.

Classic BS artist trick. You don't know what you're talking about so you make something up that assumes everyone is as dishonest as you are.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Wmaker on July 08, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Must have had a lot of pages missing in your history books!!!

Majors,

No offence but based on your history on what planes you have requested to be added to the game during these years, the game would be filled with Western Allies' equipment with maybe one silly messerschmitt and maybe a zero for them to shoot down.

As far as history goes, it's not the Western Allies' planeset that is the most lacking. I suggest you take a look at the planeset of the USSR.

...I know, they're godless commies so they don't count.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Guppy35 on July 08, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Don't be picking on my Beaufighter now Wmaker  ;)
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: bozon on July 08, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
So you're saying HTC tricked us.  There of course was no chance it was an actual vote?
Not really. They did not commit to building whatever was elected as first priority. It is a good thing for a developer to do since there is little to loose and it pleases the players either way. They really do like to know what the players want even if it is a minor consideration for them - and for the better.

The problem with players vote is like with real democracy - anyone can vote, even if he is completely clueless, devoted less than 5 seconds to the decision and voted for the guy in the prettier suit.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Tupac on July 08, 2012, 04:44:07 PM
We don't have the 410 yet, either.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: STEELE on July 09, 2012, 12:34:29 AM
Holy Mackerel!!!   

Me410 is nice, but didn't serve a heck of a lot in WWII.  Beaufighter did the whole war!!  What do the HiTech guys have against this aircraft?

Cheers anyway.

Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in the RAF!
Fly a Mossie at 60% throttle with bombs onboard, you will essentially be flying a Sleaufighter.     ;)
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Babalonian on July 09, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
Holy Mackerel!!!   

Me410 is nice, but didn't serve a heck of a lot in WWII.  Beaufighter did the whole war!!  What do the HiTech guys have against this aircraft?

Cheers anyway.

Majors
249RAF
Oldest Yank in the RAF!

He has nothing to do with it, the community overwhelmingly voted for two aircraft in a user poll.  One we have, the other is nearly upon us.... and your beloved Beau I think was included in it but didn't survive round 1...

Here we go: http://www.hitechcreations.com/News/Announcements/ww2-aircraft-poll.html

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We have run an in-game poll over the past couple of weeks asking people what plane they would most like to see added to the flight sim game in order to help us plan future development.  The results are in and we have a winner- the B-29 Superfortress!

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/b29-superfortress.jpg)

We currently have other planes and vehicles in production but we will promote the B-29 to the next open production spot.  Here are the results of all three rounds of polling.







Round 1 Results

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3.8% Pe-2 - Russian Medium Bomber

4.5% Ki-45 Toryu "Nick" - Japanese Attack / Heavy Fighter

5.5% Ki-43 Hayabusa "Oscar" - Japanese Fighter

10.4% Beaufighter - British Attack / Heavy Fighter

11.3% Me 410 - German Attack / Heavy Fighter

12.1 % He 111 - German Medium Bomber

12.6% A-26 Invader  - American Light Bomber / Attack

39.8% B-29 Superfortress - American Heavy Bomber




Round 2 Results

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18.3 % He 111 - German Medium Bomber

18.8% A-26 Invader  - American Medium Bomber / Attack

19.3% Me 410 - German Attack / Heavy Fighter

43.6% B-29 Superfortress - American Heavy Bomber




Round 3 Results

------------------------------

40.8% Me 410 - German Attack / Heavy Fighter

59.2% B-29 Superfortress - American Heavy Bomber
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Karnak on July 09, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Babalonian,

That is from the vote prior to the one resulting in the Me410.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Babalonian on July 09, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Karnak, I believe you are mistaken, there has been no official user (in-game) poll since.  I just went looking again and found no poll, at least which had its results published, as being more-recent.  If I recall correctly the first post/mention regarding the 410 entering development from HiTech or HTCs has the answer, but from my (s!@#y) memory it is because it scored greater than 40% against the B-29 in the final round of the poll I quoted earlier.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Karnak on July 09, 2012, 07:54:34 PM
Babalonian,

The last in game poll came down to the Yak-3 vs the Me410 and the Me410 won.

You appear to have missed it.  It was all "fighters" and all "non-American".  Beaufighter and Meteor were also on it.

Here is Pyro's thread about the results from Round 3:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,322567.0.html

EDIT:

Heck, reading through that thread you posted in it, Babalonian.  Are you ok?
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: GScholz on July 10, 2012, 09:41:34 AM
Heck, reading through that thread you posted in it, Babalonian.  Are you ok?

 :lol
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Butcher on July 10, 2012, 09:46:18 AM
Without the Me-410, very curious to see what the next fighter poll will be.

I wish the g.55 would get more then 5% of the votes, most people probably have no clue what the hell a g.55 is besides a blender at walmart.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: icepac on July 10, 2012, 10:07:46 AM
I would like the Beaufighter.

In other sims that have a rolling planeset, the Beau is awesome in early war dates, mid war dates, and late war dates.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Slade on July 10, 2012, 11:31:51 AM
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very curious to see what the next fighter poll will be.

Ki-43, Yak-3, Beaufighter, HE-111 seem logical choices.  So many more can be added (KI-100 etc.).  Wish we would get more new planes per year.  Still, AH has done a bang up job on what we DO have.  :aok
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Babalonian on July 10, 2012, 04:10:17 PM
Babalonian,

The last in game poll came down to the Yak-3 vs the Me410 and the Me410 won.

You appear to have missed it.  It was all "fighters" and all "non-American".  Beaufighter and Meteor were also on it.

Here is Pyro's thread about the results from Round 3:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,322567.0.html

EDIT:

Heck, reading through that thread you posted in it, Babalonian.  Are you ok?

Now I remember, the Yak-3 poll.   :rofl  I thought/vaguely-remembered there was another poll, but couldn't find it on the main webpage or the BBS's "Anoucnements" category.  It was done in-game too I believe.

(has it really been 8/9-months?)
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Babalonian on July 10, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
Man how could I have forgotten!  I was really curious why the last poll's two runner ups were included against an assortment of really good choices that not a lot of the community had probabley ever heard about before (you know, Karnak, "the fighters being non-American" and all  :neener: ).  Everyone/anyone could of predicted which would become the runner-ups, again and such. 

This thread's OP should apreciate my forgotten babling from back then: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,322178.0.html  :rofl  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: sparow on July 10, 2012, 07:59:01 PM
IMHO, as long as we don't have the He-111 this planeset will be critically maimed...

Sorry, no need for LW planes when the EW and MW planesets look like a RTB He-111 after BoB mission...

Cheers,
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Hajo on July 22, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
It has become a popularity vote.  Same as todays All-Star game in baseball.

So planes like the Oscar, Ki100, Beaufighter, Pe2...planes that the general populous

of the MA never never land first person shooter arena never heard of have little if any chance.

Anything deemed thefastestbiggestgunnnedmoste stgreatest has the best chance.

That is just the way it is.
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Widewing on July 22, 2012, 11:09:39 PM

As far as history goes, it's not the Western Allies' planeset that is the most lacking. I suggest you take a look at the planeset of the USSR.

...I know, they're godless commies so they don't count.

Sure they count, the Soviet plane set is way under-represented. That said, they're still Godless commies.....   ;)
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: titanic3 on July 22, 2012, 11:14:48 PM
Kind off topic a bit here but...

How did Il-2 Sturmovik 1946 do it? I mean they had 300 something planes, was it because of a larger dev team or just rushed flight modeling?
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Ruah on July 23, 2012, 12:59:42 AM
after all the fun you are having in the 410 (not) you really want more of that sort of thing?
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Slade on July 23, 2012, 05:22:54 AM
ME-410 won the last vote.  Case closed.  :old:
Title: Re: Me410 but no Beaufighter??
Post by: Karnak on July 23, 2012, 08:16:09 AM
Kind off topic a bit here but...

How did Il-2 Sturmovik 1946 do it? I mean they had 300 something planes, was it because of a larger dev team or just rushed flight modeling?
Il-2's flight models are much simpler.  They are all the same with just different weights, roll rates and power levels as far as I can tell.  There is never any airframe specific flight behavior.