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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Cjpedrido on July 08, 2012, 12:57:41 PM
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What about an inflight fuel dump valve? Could be "shift D" for on & off.
Would come in useful to go lighter in fighters or for bombers looking to lighten up the load.
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Almost none, perhaps even none, of the aircraft in AH had that capability. Further, as you note the use you want it for, it would be used for gamey stuff instead.
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that reminds me of a fight that i got into with one of the v guys. he was in a p47 I was in a pony chasing him. he dropped ords, rockets, pulled the trigger to waste 1/2 the ammo to lighten his load as he tried to make it over a mountain with me on his six. I bet he wished he had used the fuel dump too if he had it. he didnt make it, but the wasting 1/2 the ammo made me smile.
semp
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Almost none, perhaps even none, of the aircraft in AH had that capability. Further, as you note the use you want it for, it would be used for gamey stuff instead.
i don't see that i'm not sure when it started but all aircraft have this that ive ever worked on or seen in real life
you figure this had to be thought of back then when the pitch of the aircraft and balancing was much more important than it is these days
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i don't see that i'm not sure when it started but all aircraft have this that ive ever worked on or seen in real life
you figure this had to be thought of back then when the pitch of the aircraft and balancing was much more important than it is these days
Generally speaking WW2 era craft did not have this feature. You can read all sorts of cases where planes with damaged landing gear or other emergency situations circled the field for hours to burn off fuel before attempting a wheels up landing.
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A little bit of research goes a LONG way. I vote a HUGE no. AH is already gamey enough (%50 fuel and DT anyone?). Trust those of us who have any inclination of reality in WWII, either implied, learned, or via common sense: pilots didnt dump fuel so they could turn tighter, etc. In fact they went easy on the throttle to conserve fuel as much as possible. Also, in terms of the AH experience if you actually think that dumping fuel is going to save your bum from getting shot down then you should not have been in that situation to begin with. ;) Learn to use your throttle and rudder. :aok
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Speaking of fuel....
Can we have fuel transfers? In planes that had them?
Ie, a fuel tank gets shot and starts leaking but you can pump that fuel to another tank manually. Maybe simulated the manual transfer by having to tap a key repeatedly?
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i don't see that i'm not sure when it started but all aircraft have this that ive ever worked on or seen in real life
what aircraft have you worked on?
you are sorely mistaken if you think being able to dump fuel from internal tanks is a typical feature on any aircraft created, since airplanes have been made.
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what aircraft have you worked on?
you are sorely mistaken if you think being able to dump fuel from internal tanks is a typical feature on any aircraft created, since airplanes have been made.
most of what i worked on was 50's and forward
c-141b,c
c-17a
a-10 to many models to list
c-130
c-5
777
747
dc-10's
other aircraft too that i can't list for various reasons
all modern day fighters and bombers do have this option like i siad i dont know when it was added but i know everything since the 50's has had it on it
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that reminds me of a fight that i got into with one of the v guys. he was in a p47 I was in a pony chasing him. he dropped ords, rockets, pulled the trigger to waste 1/2 the ammo to lighten his load as he tried to make it over a mountain with me on his six. I bet he wished he had used the fuel dump too if he had it. he didnt make it, but the wasting 1/2 the ammo made me smile.
semp
:rofl :rofl
reminds me of a 47 I met up with....I watch him dump all his bombs rockets...he didn't realize I had come down from like 5 k above him and was coming in from his lo 6 with massive E...he goes up after he dumps everything...I follow him up and catch him fast...he tries a split S right into my guns and into tower....I was laughing friggin hard...I don't know why but it was funny as chit....
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most of what i worked on was 50's and forward
c-141b,c
c-17a
a-10 to many models to list
c-130
c-5
777
747
dc-10's
other aircraft too that i can't list for various reasons
all modern day fighters and bombers do have this option like i siad i dont know when it was added but i know everything since the 50's has had it on it
yeah see, alot of heavies.
quick look at list of most produced aircraft and if they could dump fuel
#1 cessna 172.. nope
#2 po-2. nope
#3 IL2. nope
#4 Bf109.. nope
#5 piper cherokee. nope
#6 and 7, c182, c150.. nope
spitfire, fw190, piper cub.. nope
and on it goes..
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If you can't learn to fight with 50% fuel, what difference does it make if you fly with 100% and fuel dump? nothing - learn to fly with 100% and you won't need to worry about dumping.
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What about an inflight fuel dump valve?
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If you can't learn to fight with 50% fuel, what difference does it make if you fly with 100% and fuel dump? nothing - learn to fly with 100% and you won't need to worry about dumping.
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i dont think this is about fighting entirely i would like to see it on the bombers
some times you take off with alot of fuel you don't need and i wouldn't mind be able to dump some to increase my speed when a emergency call comes out and your trying to get there quickly and no longer need the fuel
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i dont think this is about fighting entirely i would like to see it on the bombers
some times you take off with alot of fuel you don't need and i wouldn't mind be able to dump some to increase my speed when a emergency call comes out and your trying to get there quickly and no longer need the fuel
None of the bombers we have in game had the ability to dump fuel.
ack-ack
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Seems to me fairly simple. If they didn't have the capability, they shouldn't have it in game.
Wiley.
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None of the bombers we have in game had the ability to dump fuel.
I don't know about the other bombers, but the Ju-88 A4 had the ability to dump fuel from the fuselage tanks ("Schnellablass").
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Speaking of fuel....
Can we have fuel transfers? In planes that had them?
Ie, a fuel tank gets shot and starts leaking but you can pump that fuel to another tank manually. Maybe simulated the manual transfer by having to tap a key repeatedly?
B 17s had them so i am thinking mainly bombers would have them titian
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B 17s had them so i am thinking mainly bombers would have them titian
No they didn't.
ack-ack
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No they didn't.
ack-ack
It was in Memphis Belle! Surely Hollywood would not have lied to me, would it?!
Wiley.
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No they didn't.
ack-ack
I don't know much that much about the B-17, but knowing that most German bombers had the ability it would make me wonder if US bombers did not have the ability. :headscratch:
One thing I found:
“What was really concerning me was the high octane gasoline we still had aboard. A couple of weeks before, a B-17 in our squadron crash-landed and exploded because of the gas aboard,” he said. “I told the pilot and we began dumping our extra fuel over the channel.”
from: http://donmooreswartales.com/2012/06/25/howard-dillingham/
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we began dumping our extra fuel
probably with a hand pump. :D
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probably with a hand pump. :D
And whole lot of vasoline.
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B 17s had them so i am thinking mainly bombers would have them titian
Why do you think the B-17 was able to dump fuel?
Based on my knowledge of the Fortress gained while flying the airplane for two years I can assure you the B-17 did NOT have the ability to dump fuel in flight. Sheesh, you can't even transfer fuel between tanks in the same wing, you have to first move the fuel to the opposite wing then back to where you wanted it in the beginning.
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What about an inflight fuel dump valve? Could be "shift D" for on & off.
Would come in useful to go lighter in fighters or for bombers looking to lighten up the load.
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