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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Eric19 on July 08, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
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I've done some digging lately on the 251 wanted to know if we could have the variant with e pak 38(50mm), pak 40 (75mm), and 10.5cm leFH(105mm) light field howiter it would something even out the playing grounds with m3 having the short 75 on it
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Sd.Kfz. 251/9 - Schützenpanzerwagen (7.5 cm KwK37). Equipped with a 75 mm L/24 low velocity gun, using the same pedestal gun mount employed on the StuG III. Nicknamed "Stummel" ("stump"). In 1944, a revised modular gun mount was introduced to facilitate production that also incorporated a coaxial MG42. This gun mount was also used to create the Sd.Kfz. 250/8 variant.
Sd.Kfz. 251/10 - Schützenpanzerwagen (3.7 cm PaK). Equipped with a 37 mm Pak 36 anti-tank gun mount. Issued to platoon leaders as a fire support vehicle.
Sd.Kfz. 251/22 - 7.5 cm PaK40 L/46 auf Mittlerer Schützenpanzerwagen. Fitted with a 75 mm PaK 40 anti-tank gun.
Far as I know there is no 50mm or 10.5cm version, you either will probably get the low velocity 75 mm/L24 or 37mm Pak version which were numerous.
Edited 251/22 could be added, carried 22 rounds of 7.5cm ammo, it equipted the entire Pz Lehr and 2. Pz division - rather then have the 251/9 which were traded to other units.
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I looked it up on wiki butcher but I know thats not always a good soucer ty for info though
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I looked it up on wiki butcher but I know thats not always a good soucer ty for info though
Wiki is good area to start to get the basic, I had to go through my manual to find the other versions to see if they were not prototypes or not.
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cool just want something with a little more armor than m3 but still pack a punch at 2000yds ya know I love 251 for dropping vh sups in hot areas cause it can actually take a couple hits lol just think it would very impersive here in AH like the m3 was
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cool just want something with a little more armor than m3 but still pack a punch at 2000yds ya know I love 251 for dropping vh sups in hot areas cause it can actually take a couple hits lol just think it would very impersive here in AH like the m3 was
Check out the "Puma" scout car, I've been beggin for it for years now, Its got a 50mm L/60 cannon and 8 wheeled scout car, slower then M8 by 10mph but packs a very nice punch.
(http://www.panzerdepot.com/Images/panzer8-4.jpg)
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Adding in the SdKfz 251/x with one of the various AT guns that the Germans mounted on it would be an EASY addition to AH, at least in comparison to adding a new gv.
This goes for the Su-100, any one of the M4 Sherman variants (105mm anyone?), Jagdpanzer IV, etc etc.
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wouldn't mind having the 105 variant hehe
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the sdkz 251/4 could mount all 3 guns i listed
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Not mount, tow. It was used to tow these guns and store some ammo or other equipment for them.
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it could mount them denniss go to wiki and some resreach plz
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Not mount, tow. It was used to tow these guns and store some ammo or other equipment for them.
Looks mounted to me.
(http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/Sdkfz-251-221.JPG)
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Looks mounted to me.
(http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/Sdkfz-251-221.JPG)
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Interesting i never heard of the 10.5cm version, certainly will need to go research this, curiosu how much ammo it would carry? 7.5cm has 22rounds
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the 10.5cm was a french gun I'm sure used on a couple of there spgs in late 40s to early 50s
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http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=232
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Looks mounted to me.
(http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/Sdkfz-251-221.JPG)
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damn, that gun !! :O
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Ever notice how the lines on a 251 look like the new anti ied vehicles.
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As said, the 251/4 could not carry one of the guns noted, it was used to tow a variety of guns and carried ammo and other stuff for them. There are some versions of the 251 specifically modified to carry larger caliber guns, one of them was the 251/22 with the 75mm PaK. Others include the /9 with short 75mm gun or /10 with 37mm PaK.
Heck they even tried to install the 88mm PaK in a 251 but this failed. The 251 probably desintegrated from the recoil force.
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Ever notice how the lines on a 251 look like the new anti ied vehicles.
ever notice how much of the modern mlitary equipment deployed by most countries today bears a strange and uncanny resenblance to an ancient german original variant of the species/type?
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denniss the point is not make people feel stupid the point is that we need the 251 to have a AT gun mounted on it like the m3 has to even the odds so unless you have some positive input or constructive criticsm don't post and I don't care what verison we get cause they all look exactly the same except for the the one that was covered on top
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denniss the point is not make people feel stupid the point is that we need the 251 to have a AT gun mounted on it like the m3 has to even the odds so unless you have some positive input or constructive criticsm don't post and I don't care what verison we get cause they all look exactly the same except for the the one that was covered on top
Actually he has a valid point, best option would be the 75pak or 37mm version, I see no reason for the short barrel version we already have the PanzerF.
37mm would be absolutely useless unless an M8 or M3 is running around.
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Actually he has a valid point, best option would be the 75pak or 37mm version, I see no reason for the short barrel version we already have the PanzerF.
37mm would be absolutely useless unless an M8 or M3 is running around.
Actually, if HTC wanted to add in the SdKfz 251/9 with the 7.5cm infantry cannon, it would have about double the reload as the Panzer IV F's 75mm cannon. Also, the trajectory would make it useful for indirect fire support vs towns or bases. Yeah, it is a lot more vulnerable but it if were able to resupply itself like the current version can do with the 28cm rockets... it would be just another tool to use.
The 37mm version of the 251 would be more useful than you think. A fast firing AP gun with good enough AP to knock out armor with a flank shot and the lighter skinned stuff with a hit anywhere. The fast firing gun would be a blessing vs the fast movers.