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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: bortas1 on July 13, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
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:salute Anyone know the origins of friday the 13th?
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The day the Templars were arrested in 1307.
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Indeed. Or so says the legend. It was mentioned when I earned rank of Master Mason. I do not remember the entire lesson, but it had to do with how power corrupts even the the most sacred (pope) and "purest" (royalty) of people.
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I've never had a bad Friday the 13th. However I have noticed most Monday the 16ths blow chunks.
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Jesus died on a Friday and Judas was the 13th disciple... or so they say.
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I've never had a bad Friday the 13th. However I have noticed most Monday the 16ths blow chunks.
Doesn't every monday blow chunks? :headscratch:
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:salute Anyone know the origins of friday the 13th?
Preceded by Thursday the 12th? :headscratch:
Coogan
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Superstition, man's hapless and futile attempt to impose causality and order on a chaotic world. The Romans for one had all sorts of superstitions regarding lucky and unlucky days to do important things like starting a war, building something, getting married, etc.
And of course it works, in a way. Forced by circumstance to start an important project on an "unlucky" day and the workers, half-expecting something bad to happen, do not give the task their full attention, so it's more likely something goes wrong. Start something on a propitious day and everyone is full of confidence and things go well.
And then confirmation bias reinforces the luckiness or unluckiness of things and the superstitions become part of society.
13 at dinner meant someone at the table was going to die soon. Certainly held true for the Last Supper. The lunar calendar might haven something to do with it too, but Jesus dying on a Friday seems a reasonable explanation for the unluckiness of Friday in the Christian world.
By contrast, for the Romans Friday, or Venus, the sixth day of the Roman week, was their luckiest day. But if you consider the Roman empire was arguably done in by the rise of Christianity then Friday was unlucky for them too. But that of course would be confirmation bias.
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Doesn't every monday blow chunks? :headscratch:
Pretty much my point I just took a little longer route to to it. ;)
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very interesting...I`m not stroking my beard by the way
how global is the friday the 13th jinx?
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very interesting...I`m not stroking my beard by the way
how global is the friday the 13th jinx?
I'll let ya know in about 2 1/2 hours.
Coogan :O
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Ive flown an airplane the last 4 Friday the 13ths.....I flew several airplanes today. I'm still here.
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Treize69 is right.
Short version, after many crusades to Jerusalem the royal vaults across Europe were nearly empty. This lead to massive depressions, etc. The Templars were a knightly order of warriror monks, of sorts. They were officially ordained by the Pope and were tasked with guardian Christian pilgrims as they journed to and from Jerusalem. Part of joining the Knights Templar was giving all of your earthly possessions to the order, taking vows and living with the sword and poverty.
Fact, our modern day system of writing checks in exchange of currency came from Templar castles located all over Europe. You could deposit gold in one Templar castle, say in Scotland. They would give you a receipt that was encrypted. You could travel to Italy, take the receipt to a Templar castle they would give you the gold, minus interest and handling fees. Prior to this one had to travel with all of their gold, or risk impoverishment. Over a few centuries the Templars became wealthier then any King, kingdom or the Catholic Church. In fact, those who wanted to join the order could not do so if they were indebted at all. Only those with money, or atleast no debt.
Fast forward to 1307, the King of France, desperate for cash struck a deal with the Pope. He made claims against the head of the Templars and the order in general. There was a secret decree to arrest all of these knights of god. Of course being a military order the arrest of these warrior knights was not to be taken lightly. Secretly the King of France sent orders to all his forces directing them to arrest all Templars throughout the kingdom. Of course they did not have email, phones, etc so the trick was to coordinate the arrest kingdom wide without the aide of modern communications. How do you issue such a broad decree without the Knights learning about it and responding? It was simple.
The king issued orders sealed in wax with the decree for arrest in the inside. On the outside was the simple direction, open and obey on Friday the 13th. So on that day, at dawn all through France the seal was broken, troops mounted and Templars arrested. Many escaped to other parts of Europe, with the last stronghold being in Scotland. Imagine the general populace and their reaction as they saw this play out. From that time on Friday the 13th was an unlucky day to be guarded against.
I did this research for my senior paper in college. Very interesting. And this is only the beginning of the story.
Boo
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I still don't see what that has to do with the holy grail or speed boats getting chopped up by slowly turning propellors. And you left out the part about naughty zoot and the beacon over castle anthrax, not to mention why Tom Hanks can't find the grail in the hidden vault under the US capital.
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Treize69 is right.
Short version, after many crusades to Jerusalem the royal vaults across Europe were nearly empty. This lead to massive depressions, etc. The Templars were a knightly order of warriror monks, of sorts. They were officially ordained by the Pope and were tasked with guardian Christian pilgrims as they journed to and from Jerusalem. Part of joining the Knights Templar was giving all of your earthly possessions to the order, taking vows and living with the sword and poverty.
Fact, our modern day system of writing checks in exchange of currency came from Templar castles located all over Europe. You could deposit gold in one Templar castle, say in Scotland. They would give you a receipt that was encrypted. You could travel to Italy, take the receipt to a Templar castle they would give you the gold, minus interest and handling fees. Prior to this one had to travel with all of their gold, or risk impoverishment. Over a few centuries the Templars became wealthier then any King, kingdom or the Catholic Church. In fact, those who wanted to join the order could not do so if they were indebted at all. Only those with money, or atleast no debt.
Fast forward to 1307, the King of France, desperate for cash struck a deal with the Pope. He made claims against the head of the Templars and the order in general. There was a secret decree to arrest all of these knights of god. Of course being a military order the arrest of these warrior knights was not to be taken lightly. Secretly the King of France sent orders to all his forces directing them to arrest all Templars throughout the kingdom. Of course they did not have email, phones, etc so the trick was to coordinate the arrest kingdom wide without the aide of modern communications. How do you issue such a broad decree without the Knights learning about it and responding? It was simple.
The king issued orders sealed in wax with the decree for arrest in the inside. On the outside was the simple direction, open and obey on Friday the 13th. So on that day, at dawn all through France the seal was broken, troops mounted and Templars arrested. Many escaped to other parts of Europe, with the last stronghold being in Scotland. Imagine the general populace and their reaction as they saw this play out. From that time on Friday the 13th was an unlucky day to be guarded against.
I did this research for my senior paper in college. Very interesting. And this is only the beginning of the story.
Boo
Confirmation bias. The superstitions about the sixth day of the week and the number 13 go back much farther than the Templars.
And the number 13 at least ever since someone noticed the difference between the lunar and the solar cycles. So when the crops happen to fail in a year of 13 moons you have something to blame it on.
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I was going to go out partying tonight and decided to stop at Dairy Queen for a quick bite. I looked at my receipt and noticed it was Friday the 13th and my order number was 666. I ate supper and came back home. No freakin' way was I gonna put that to the test. :bolt:
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I was going to go out partying tonight and decided to stop at Dairy Queen for a quick bite. I looked at my receipt and noticed it was Friday the 13th and my order number was 666. I ate supper and came back home. No freakin' way was I gonna put that to the test. :bolt:
I put it to the test for you... coming home last night I was damn near hit by some clown 3 minutes from my house. I was at an interesction, but he was cooking good.
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I was going to go out partying tonight and decided to stop at Dairy Queen for a quick bite. I looked at my receipt and noticed it was Friday the 13th and my order number was 666. I ate supper and came back home. No freakin' way was I gonna put that to the test. :bolt:
That's strange. I was at DQ also and my receipt and order somehow got given to some maniac who ate quickly and then nearly ran me over in the parking lot. He was shouting something about the devil not gonna get him this time and some other gibberish. I hope he liked the burger because I saw the teenager behind the counter drop the bun on the floor but still use it after wiping off the hair and dirt with the snot rag in his back pocket.
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That's strange. I was at DQ also and my receipt and order somehow got given to some maniac who ate quickly and then nearly ran me over in the parking lot. He was shouting something about the devil not gonna get him this time and some other gibberish. I hope he liked the burger because I saw the teenager behind the counter drop the bun on the floor but still use it after wiping off the hair and dirt with the snot rag in his back pocket.
:rofl
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Jesus died on a Friday and Judas was the 13th disciple... or so they say.
I've heard that Christ was crucified on Friday the 13th also.
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Walmart was handing out black cats yesterday :D
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:salute thanks for yalls comments. very interesting very interesting indeed. :rofl :cheers:
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This year there is 3 Friday the 13th and each is 13 weeks apart.
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Jesus died on a Friday and Judas was the 13th disciple... or so they say.
Actually, Jesus most probably died on a Wednesday. Too long to explain, but Googling will give plenty of information about that.
Also, Judas Iscariot was one of the original 12 disciples, not the 13th - unless you count Jesus as the 1st. After Judas committed suicide, another was chosen to fill the dozen. Was he Matthias who was selected by the disciples (acts 1:26), or Paul, whom Christ selected?
Friday the 13th is a widespread jinx, at least it's known in the Western world. An interesting fact is, that the 13th day is a Friday more often than any other day.
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An interesting fact is, that the 13th day is a Friday more often than any other day.
Which all by itself is sufficient proof that the universe hates us.