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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Noir on July 18, 2012, 05:15:55 AM
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I would love a french skin for the P51...anyone has pictures of their planes?
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I found this but it is a 1953 F6D picture..
(http://aeromil-yf.pagesperso-orange.fr/trio%20P51%20dim.jpg)
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(http://aeromil-yf.pagesperso-orange.fr/coll_Latapy.jpg)
P51D 10-NA 44-14779 inflight above Tanezrouf.
Coll. Latapy
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looks like the picture above is also a F6D...
But I found the holy grail over there:
http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/france/france.htm
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Found a C-10 model at the bottom from 1944
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well the P-51D-20-NA 'Annecy' was active during the war, and despite being a recce P51D I think it fits the criteria to make a skin for aces high. I've asked the autor of the drawning if I could use his work to create a skin :aok
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I obtained the agreement to create the skin based on the following drawning
(http://mustang.gaetanmarie.com/profiles/aixlesbains/aix.jpg)
The up side seems to be Aluminium finish...is the lower side and the wings gray paint?
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Even though it carried guns, was it a combat plane? No. Did it ever fire those guns? Did it ever get kills? I'm guessing no.
Just because it had rare French markings doesn't make it worth putting on a skin in-game. It wasn't a French fighter, they didn't field any as frontline units, from what I recall.
It's not a good fit for our P-51 in-game.
EDIT: Re-reading the link you gave, they were only operational for a very short time in 1945 and their sole contribution to the war was taking picture. I know you like French aircraft markings, but honestly, you have to admit this is a poor skin to put on our planes in-game.
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thanks krusty I appreciate the support. I'm sure the pink spit9's would agree.
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"Immediatly after the crossing, the Mustangs of the Savoie group were engaged in so-called "army corps reconnaissance missions", which, because of the very low overcast and necessity to fly very low, turned out to be very dangerous. On one such mission, on April 17, Lt. Sainflou and Lt. Delgue were jumped by a dozen Bf 109s. Lt. Sainflou narrowly escaped by diving at full military power towards the ground, but Lt. Delègue was never seen again. Luckily, Lt. Labadie returned to the group on April 23, having escaped from a prisoner convoy."
There you go seems to be enough. Also they suffered damage from flak several times. Seems like combat.
+1 for french mustangs
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"Immediatly after the crossing, the Mustangs of the Savoie group were engaged in so-called "army corps reconnaissance missions", which, because of the very low overcast and necessity to fly very low, turned out to be very dangerous. On one such mission, on April 17, Lt. Sainflou and Lt. Delgue were jumped by a dozen Bf 109s. Lt. Sainflou narrowly escaped by diving at full military power towards the ground, but Lt. Delègue was never seen again. Luckily, Lt. Labadie returned to the group on April 23, having escaped from a prisoner convoy."
There you go seems to be enough. Also they suffered damage from flak several times. Seems like combat.
+1 for french mustangs
A lot of things were combat. Driving ambulances was combat. Flying C-47s was combat. No denying they got shot AT, but did they even carry full guns and ammo? Did they ever shoot any of them? No kills, no nothing. For the very short couple months they served before the end of the war, they are very much a footnote.
Noir, the pink fighter-recon skins on the spits served almost the entire war. I don't have the specifics because I didn't research and skin them, but there's a far greater chance they fired their guns in anger. These P-51s literally operated 2-3 months and that's it. Their major contribution to the war was helping ground troops not get surrounded by spotting enemy movements with their photos. They got a commendation from a general they helped, but .... honestly?
You really can't compare it to a frontline fighter unit. It's not even close.
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Well seems to be enough IMO.
I hope some one skins it submits it and lets skuzzy make the final choice.
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I hope some one skins it submits it and lets skuzzy make the final choice.
that's my intend, I'm a complete noob at it but I'll do it :salute
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that's my intend, I'm a complete noob at it but I'll do it :salute
I think Krusty has a skin tutorial to get you started :aok
Oh, wait a minute... :noid
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I think Krusty has a skin tutorial to get you started :aok
Oh, wait a minute... :noid
lol :ahand
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I've started working on it, however I have a question.
HTC says they accept only 1024 textures, but the default skin for the 51 is a 512 texture. Does that mean I'll have to save a custom skin to get a 1024 pattern?
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It means you have to install the hi res pack. Without this pack you are not running 1024 resolution textures.
After installing the pack, you must set 1024 in your graphics settings, then export the skin. When working on the skin, also do so in 1024 to preview work. Otherwise you may reduce this setting for actual gameplay.
The skin, however, still doesn't belong in the game. Same as with the D.520 wish thread, the only argument for it is "it's French" -- not that it was relevant.
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It means you have to install the hi res pack. Without this pack you are not running 1024 resolution textures.
After installing the pack, you must set 1024 in your graphics settings, then export the skin. When working on the skin, also do so in 1024 to preview work. Otherwise you may reduce this setting for actual gameplay.
The skin, however, still doesn't belong in the game. Same as with the D.520 wish thread, the only argument for it is "it's French" -- not that it was relevant.
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Ho ok I forgot about the 1024 pack thanks.
The skin saw combat so it meets the inclusion criteria. I think it's good to remember that the war was fought by alliances of countries, and whatever the size of the help provided, every country should have a spot under the sun.
If HTC decides otherwise then be it I will still be happy to have finished a skin and will keep it for a local use. Am I allowed master Krusty?
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Ho ok I forgot about the 1024 pack thanks.
The skin saw combat so it meets the inclusion criteria. I think it's good to remember that the war was fought by alliances of countries, and whatever the size of the help provided, every country should have a spot under the sun.
If HTC decides otherwise then be it I will still be happy to have finished a skin and will keep it for a local use. Am I allowed master Krusty?
I sure hope your skin attempt ends WAY lot better then my 7 year old finger painting skin :D
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Did they even have guns loaded? Did they ever FIRE their guns? The variant you want to skin was a high speed recon unit, and NOT a fighter squadron. NOT one of the units actively flying to engage the enemy.
It really doesn't fit. The only reason you want it is because it's french. Can't find ANY other french markings that actually participated in combat? Maybe that tells you something about this plane and its service to the French. If you really desperately want French markings, we have tons of planes that are better suited to them.