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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Seagoon on July 24, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
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Hi All,
Just wondering why a decision was made to perk the bomber variant of the Mosquito? The decision to perk it, and the fact that it's unarmed and easily caught by the late war fighters seems to have made it a hanger queen.
Thanks in advance.
- Seagoon
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Get it up to 27,000 feet and you have almost 400mph. Then tell me why they dont perk it...as it would be almost impossible to catch unless you are already in position.
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I never see Mosquito bombers at any alt, do you?
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Rare, but yes, I do see them at alt.
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Get it up to 27,000 feet and you have almost 400mph. Then tell me why they dont perk it...as it would be almost impossible to catch unless you are already in position.
Better than 400 mph (408 mph, there-about) at 27k... Unless enemy fighters are close to that height, a tail chase would take forever. They are very tough to intercept when high.. Ask the Luftwaffe.
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Couldnt remember if it was just under 400, but I knew it was close. Thanks for the info Widewing. They deffently are fast up high.
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It is a very fast 4,000lb bomb. If unperked, what do you think it would be used for?
Also, it is not easily caught. A Bf109K-4 taking off from an airfield as it passes overhead at 28,000ft would be so far behind by the time it matched altitude that it would need to run on WEP for about 45 minutes to catch up.
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I agree that the Luftwaffe would tell you they were one of the most difficult bombers to catch, which was extremely irritating when you consider that they were one of the RAF's most frequently used bombers.
So the consensus is, despite the 4K bomb-load and the time it takes to get to 28K, the fact that they hit 400 mph when they get there makes perking necessary, despite the fact that this also makes them virtually unused.
Ok, any opinions on lowering the perk value to say something between 1 and 10 rather than in the 50 region?
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Karnak - In answer to your question, HQ and CVs probably.
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Karnak - In answer to your question, HQ and CVs probably.
Tanks.
Actually, the only two I've lost were in attacking the city (something it isn't great for, but is kinda fun for historical reasons), once because the city was right next to the Me163 airfield and the other time because it was so deep in it was easy to see where I was heading.
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I am still trying to collect some bomber perks to get the Mossie XVI out the hangar. One Boston delivery got me a 1/3 of the way. Need to bring myself to do it twice more...
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I am still trying to collect some bomber perks to get the Mossie XVI out the hangar. One Boston delivery got me a 1/3 of the way. Need to bring myself to do it twice more...
Ki-67 or G4M1 sorties to kill town centers are the best way to get perks for bombers. The Ki-67 is more likely to survive and the G4M1 will get more perks if it survives.
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Best way honestly is to head to midwar or earlywar when people are AFK on one side, switch countries to the lowest for the perk bonus - find a CV and hit it over and over, you can get 50-100 perks per run.
Only works in bomber mode, but once you get 1000 you can lose a few mossies and B29s without worrying.
I had a P47M chase me for 4 sectors at 27k once, he took off as I was flying about and from 6k back took a few sectors for him to catch up to me, by this time I was already egressing back to my country bases.
He finally caught up to me 4 sectors later (8 total sectors flown at this point).
Its extremely fast and carries 4k bomb - doesn't need guns as its speed is the reason its perked.
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Best way honestly is to head to midwar or earlywar when people are AFK on one side, switch countries to the lowest for the perk bonus - find a CV and hit it over and over, you can get 50-100 perks per run.
(http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/fatigue/tres-fatigue.gif)
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Best way honestly is to head to midwar or earlywar when people are AFK on one side, switch countries to the lowest for the perk bonus - find a CV and hit it over and over, you can get 50-100 perks per run.
I prefer to do it in the LWA where there is a chance at combat. Yes, it is less efficient, but it is also much more enjoyable.
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I prefer to do it in the LWA where there is a chance at combat. Yes, it is less efficient, but it is also much more enjoyable.
And let's not forget that shooting down enemy fighters gives you a lot of perks too. One kill of a Spit 16 in the Ki-67 is worth 6 additional perks at balanced modifier :)
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took me 4 sectors to catch one with a 262, he did have 10k alt advantage though....all 3 died:)
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took me 4 sectors to catch one with a 262, he did have 10k alt advantage though....all 3 died:)
He should have climbed away from you. He can go up higher than the Me262.
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He should have climbed away from you. He can go up higher than the Me262.
probably didnt have the fuel he flew 4 sectors to bomb bases i was taking off from then i chased him at least another 4.
whats the ceiling on a 262?/ mossy bomber
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probably didnt have the fuel he flew 4 sectors to bomb bases i was taking off from then i chased him at least another 4.Depends on what loadout he took, but will max fuel eight sectors is about 30% of the fuel I think.
whats the ceiling on a 262?/ mossy bomber
Once again it depends on the loadout. If the Mossie has dropped its bombs it should be able to go over 40,000ft. Me262's list ceiling is 32,000ft, but it can be nursed higher. The problem the Me262 has is that even if it does match the altitude of the Mossie, the Mossie is more agile at extreme altitudes.
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I am still trying to collect some bomber perks to get the Mossie XVI out the hangar. One Boston delivery got me a 1/3 of the way. Need to bring myself to do it twice more...
Perked farmed this when We had the Late War "Off Hours" Arena switcheroo thing going on. Somebody or other had just steamrolled the map and it was reset with about 1/2 hour before the scheduled reset to Off Hours. Not many people logged back on, so I made the switch to Bishies (they only had 1 player on their side). In the hangar before take off, the Perk Point Bonus was 5.0! Climbed to 9.5k and dropped on three different towns and landed right before the reset. :lol
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/megaperks.jpg)
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Perked farmed this when We had the Late War "Off Hours" Arena switcheroo thing going on. Somebody or other had just steamrolled the map and it was reset with about 1/2 hour before the scheduled reset to Off Hours. Not many people logged back on, so I made the switch to Bishies (they only had 1 player on their side). In the hangar before take off, the Perk Point Bonus was 5.0! Climbed to 9.5k and dropped on three different towns and landed right before the reset. :lol
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/megaperks.jpg)
:O Super nice. :cheers: :salute
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Hi All,
Just wondering why a decision was made to perk the bomber variant of the Mosquito? The decision to perk it, and the fact that it's unarmed and easily caught by the late war fighters seems to have made it a hanger queen.
Thanks in advance.
- Seagoon
It is a mild perk, I feel more to deter it from being used in mass for CAS at a beseiged airbase than because above 20k it's extremely fast.
Now that it has been out for a littel while now though, I don't think it should loose its perk cost, but I believe it could be lowered... imho, if it didn't have the ability to sink a CV in a single pass with a full formation and heavy ord load, its cost could be halved.
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It's a fun plane---aside from the 4k, carries 2 500's. I finally figured there's no reason to do a formation if you're doing the 4k's......1 4k egg is enough to kill whatever you're aiming at anyhow. A 51 who latched onto me over a base at 16k chased me fora sector+....never got within 1000. Gets up to alt very fast as well, wep goes forever...fun plane
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It's a fun plane---aside from the 4k, carries 2 500's. I finally figured there's no reason to do a formation if you're doing the 4k's......1 4k egg is enough to kill whatever you're aiming at anyhow. A 51 who latched onto me over a base at 16k chased me fora sector+....never got within 1000. Gets up to alt very fast as well, wep goes forever...fun plane
CVs and SBs arre the only reason I can think of for taking a formation.
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yeah... you're not the only one who yawns at that prospect. Boring and cheap. But hey... to each their own. :aok
btw... the Mossi B Mk 16 is perked because of speed. No other reason to mention.
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ki67 surprisses most ppl they thinks itsa matchstick (wich it is) with the 12.7mm guns and a top gun of 20mm it can make very nice and quick work of the unsuspecting attcker 2 p51ds and crappy bomb damage got my 35 +perks one run
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ki67 surprisses most ppl they thinks itsa matchstick (wich it is) with the 12.7mm guns and a top gun of 20mm it can make very nice and quick work of the unsuspecting attcker 2 p51ds and crappy bomb damage got my 35 +perks one run
on that note, I *really* wish HTC would tone down the "insta-flames" on the G4M. Yes, it was noted to have flamed up quickly but under the current circumstances in AH it seems a bit too easy. It isnt even worth making mention of the 20mm defense guns.
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on that note, I *really* wish HTC would tone down the "insta-flames" on the G4M. Yes, it was noted to have flamed up quickly but under the current circumstances in AH it seems a bit too easy. It isnt even worth making mention of the 20mm defense guns.
Tell that too the 3 Me163s that got shot down on a single shorty. well its was 2 dead and 1 managed to ditch with 1/2 a wing. I lost no drones in those attacks.
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took me 4 sectors to catch one with a 262, he did have 10k alt advantage though....all 3 died:)
What is the range of a 262? Seems like I run out of fuel pretty fast in it so am I flying it wrong? I may give the Mosquito bomber another try but I am not really a bomber guy.
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What is the range of a 262? Seems like I run out of fuel pretty fast in it so am I flying it wrong? I may give the Mosquito bomber another try but I am not really a bomber guy.
Higher + Faster + 262 = better GPH.
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Either drop the RPM or cut one engine if you've leveled out in a 262. You'll be going at least 400mph and if you do get bounced, a shallow dive and you'll hit 500mph easily.