Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: kilo2 on July 31, 2012, 07:10:15 PM
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No perk on spit 14.
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i am against this solely because we have enough planes running away all the time as it is
unperk the 14 and we'll have spits flying like little girls all over the arena as well as the p51s, 190s and la7s
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i am against this solely because we have enough planes running away all the time as it is
unperk the 14 and we'll have spits flying like little girls all over the arena as well as the p51s, 190s and la7s
The XIV isn't that fast and it would be less likely to run than it is while perks are on the line. There would, however, be more of them.
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i am against this solely because we have enough planes running away all the time as it is
unperk the 14 and we'll have spits flying like little girls all over the arena as well as the p51s, 190s and la7s
So what's one more bird running away? If nothing else folks will get confused and turn fight in the thing. Then they'll forget that the engine torque is the other direction from the Merlin Spits and really screw themselves up. :aok
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I have been flying it a bit this tour and I can not see a real reason for it to have a perk.
I don't care if I die and lose 10 perks before anyone brings that up. I just cannot see how it is perked and the spit 16 is not.
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I think in the right hands and against the right opponents its perk is justified, but I wish it was less, or better even if your countries ENY value was ~1.2 or more its cost was free.
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The torque in that thing is unbelievable. :uhoh
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I think in the right hands and against the right opponents its perk is justified
That could be said about many planes currently.
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Two things: It does not run away, it runs up. The perk is justified, it's a monster (and I love it). I use it to go after high alt buff raids with escorts, then hunt the escort planes. Brutalizer up high. :aok
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Perk status totally unjustified , particularly when you look at actual usage and success in the arena. Spit 16 is actually the better plane under usual MA conditions.
+1 on removing perk status. Free Fourteen!
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I find the Spit 14 a harder plane to fly than any other Spitfire in the game. It is almost impossible to get it out of a flat spin. I would jump over the Spit 14 to fly the 8 or 16. I have no clue why that plane in perked. The Spit16 needs perked way more than the 14 I think it is by far the better bird.
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The spit 14 and 16 should be perked, imho.
Any plane that can build energy that quickly (along with other fine attributes) should have a price.
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The spit 14 and 16 should be perked, imho.
Any plane that can build energy that quickly (along with other fine attributes) should have a price.
So the Bf109K-4 and La-7 should be as well? What about the Spitfire Mk VIII? It is only slightly behind the Spitfire Mk XVI in acceleration and climbing.
You want these perked even though the P-51D in your signature has much, much higher usage? What should be done about that?
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i am against this solely because we have enough planes running away all the time as it is
unperk the 14 and we'll have spits flying like little girls all over the arena as well as the p51s, 190s and la7s
+1
I was in a Hurricane today and a P40 with alt turned and ran from a 1 on 1. It gets worse every day. Is school out?
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I woudn't mind seeing the 14 unperked for now.
Un perk it and give it six months. If the numbers show that it's a monster, re-perk it.
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So the Bf109K-4 and La-7 should be as well? What about the Spitfire Mk VIII? It is only slightly behind the Spitfire Mk XVI in acceleration and climbing.
You want these perked even though the P-51D in your signature has much, much higher usage? What should be done about that?
Play fantasy match-up between the Spit XVI and any other plane. The only real disadvantages the Spit will ever have is lack of top end speed. There are very few situations against a few elite late war planes in which the Spit XVI is decidedly outclassed.
A P-51 flown poorly is either a floundering turd waiting to be towered or on the deck running home. A Spit XVI flown poorly can still get kills. It does too many things above average to not have a price to pay for losing one.
Lastly, if the Spit XVI stays unperked, I want free -4's! :old:
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Triton, the -4 outclasses the 16 in pretty much any category except for (maybe) sustained climb.
The 16 being unperked is not a basis for the unperking of a -4
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Triton, the -4 outclasses the 16 in pretty much any category except for (maybe) sustained climb.
The 16 being unperked is not a basis for the unperking of a -4
I should have added a :neener: instead of :old:
I understand the -4 is the better plane. I heart the -4. The point I was making is the Spit XVI is a dominant aircraft that has a long list of things it does well. The -4 does many things well too, yet has a moderate/high perk price.
If the 16 were perked, I do not think it should have the price of the -4, fwiw.
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I should have added a :neener: instead of :old:
I understand the -4 is the better plane. I heart the -4. The point I was making is the Spit XVI is a dominant aircraft that has a long list of things it does well. The -4 does many things well too, yet has a moderate/high perk price.
If the 16 were perked, I do not think it should have the price of the -4, fwiw.
Sorry, I did miss the sarcasm. :bhead
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I've watched many spit14 auger or have killed them using spit8, spit9 and spit16 becasue players try to fly it like the other 3 spitfires. If it becomes unperked, just like the G14\K4 there will be a small cadre of Uber Aces. The rest will be defeated by the spit14 itself or choose not to fly it becasue of it's exacting requirements to succeed with it below 15k. Most will burn off their fuel above 15k relying soley on it's WEP as their best ACM manuver.
You can always tell when you are chasing a neophyt in one. It wobbles around alot during manuvering and stalls on the turns.
I think unperking the Tempest or F4U-4 would be a mistake. Unperking the spit14 will make the G14\K4 drivers work a little harder.
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+1 to Buster's post
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I don't think any of the Spitfires need perked mostly because just the wind from a 20mm cannon round going by it seems to tear off it's wings lol. Plus the fuel load is not so great even with a drop tank compared to a P-51 with say 50% fuel and the ords lay out is so so for the Spitfires with weak under carriages to boot. But the Spits are fun to fly for sure.