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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mickthestick on August 01, 2012, 01:27:28 PM
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Got stopped on I-95 yesterday doing 77 in a 65. Cop was nice enough to let me go with a warning for the speeding, but gave me a repair order because, according to him, my windows were tinted beyond that which Maryland allows (35% minimum light penetration).
Having done some very basic research, I learned that it takes a light meter to properly gauge how much light tinting allows through. Tomorrow I'm taking the car in to find out if he was right, and if so, to get it removed.
Is it really that easy to see the difference between 35% and, say, 20%? The cop used no equipment to do his testing. He just said it was so and that was that. I didn't bother arguing. Just said thanks and drove off.
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wanna know what the test says.
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Is it factory tint?
:cheers: Oz
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Is it factory tint?
No, I got the car used from a dealer in NJ. It was an aftermarket job done by the first owner. However, the car is a coupe, and according to NJ law, no tinting is allowed on the front windows at all.
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Repair tickets are just that. MN LEOs carry the equipment, sometimes. My former boss liked speeding and mouthing off, so he usually got the speeding ticket plus whatever other repair tickets he could get, which was always the tint. He'd had the company apply the allowed amount in MN, but the installer forgot to calculate that the factory tint added an extra 3% so he was always over by 3% :)
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UK plod will stop you for tinted motorcycle visors over 25% (iirc)
They have regularly seized visors, even when worn on bright sunny days.
You can however wear totally black shades under a clear visor with no problem. Strange.
If i ride with black visor I always carry a clear as well and in 15 years of riding i have only had one problem getting stopped.
I suggest therefore wearing a helmet with interchangeable visors and leaving your windows clear :aok
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I too like the helmet idea.
-abG
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Dup
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I would bet on not making 1 mile in a car wearing a helmet with a black visor until you were in ARV'ville :lol
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I would bet on not making 1 mile in a car wearing a helmet with a black visor until you were in ARV'ville :lol
As much as I want people to think I'm the Stig, I don't quite want it that badly.
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according to NJ law, no tinting is allowed on the front windows at all.
That's not right, they just want to make it easier for camera speed traps to identify people. A long time ago the government tried to ban tinted windows. The medical community who makes and sells eye cataracts disproved that tinted windows are dangerous. They had to otherwise people with cataracts wouldn't be allowed to drive.
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That's not right, they just want to make it easier for camera speed traps to identify people. A long time ago the government tried to ban tinted windows. The medical community who makes and sells eye cataracts disproved that tinted windows are dangerous. They had to otherwise people with cataracts wouldn't be allowed to drive.
I don't know where you're from but CA doesn't allow any window tinting forward of the drivers shoulder, with the exception of a six inch band across the top of the windshield.
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No, I got the car used from a dealer in NJ. It was an aftermarket job done by the first owner. However, the car is a coupe, and according to NJ law, no tinting is allowed on the front windows at all.
oh jeeze...the guys name wasn't harvey, was it? and he wasn't crazy hyper, was he?
window tint is indeed illegal here in nj. on the front door, windows, and the windshield. there are medical exemptions. you need to get approved by a doctor though.
the funny thing with all this is that it doesn't fail inspection anymore.
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That's not right, they just want to make it easier for camera speed traps to identify people. A long time ago the government tried to ban tinted windows. The medical community who makes and sells eye cataracts disproved that tinted windows are dangerous. They had to otherwise people with cataracts wouldn't be allowed to drive.
uumm....tinted windows can indeed be dangerous.
they're illegal here in nj, thanks to a trooper being killed by someone he didn't see in the back of a car........at least that's what i heard.
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Here (locally) the law is that if the windows are so dark you cannot see anyone inside, its illegal
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as cool as i think cars look with tint, the fact is that if you drive with it, you're begging for th police to pull ya over.
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Helmets and seatbelts are just government meddling with personal freedom. It's all a huge scam.
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Usually the fine is cheaper than the lawyer.
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Helmets and seatbelts are just government meddling with personal freedom. It's all a huge scam.
Lazs must not have access here anymore. I can't set a better hook than that. :pray
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Usually the fine is cheaper than the lawyer.
There's no fine. It's a repair order that will cause my registration to be suspended if I don't comply within 10 days. If it was just a flat, non-progressive fine, I'd keep the tinting on and live with the risk.
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Helmets and seatbelts are just government meddling with personal freedom. It's all a huge scam.
setbelts are only due to paramedics getting too lazy to go look for the bodies in an accident. remember the guy called frog in the movie colors? he was in an accident and got thrown something like 100 feet.
I myself got hit on the freeway causing me to crash head on with the center divider at 65 mph. my truck flipped about 4 or 5 times. only injury I had was on my shoulder when i tried to push the door open.
helmets and seatbelts are mandated because some people are too dumb to make the decision.
semp
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There's no fine. It's a repair order that will cause my registration to be suspended if I don't comply within 10 days. If it was just a flat, non-progressive fine, I'd keep the tinting on and live with the risk.
Down here there is no repair order. It would be a fine. Been there. Tint is easy to take off and put on. Spray it with 50/50 water/ammonia and back it with a plastic bag for an hour in the sun. Peels right off. Scrape it with a razor. Reapply. Lots of how-tos on youtube.
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I usually roll all of the windows down if I get pulled over. It has a tendency to make the LEO's more comfortable when they can see inside the vehicle easily.
I have not been pulled over, specifically for window tint. I haven't gotten a fine, either.
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setbelts are only due to paramedics getting too lazy to go look for the bodies in an accident. remember the guy called frog in the movie colors? he was in an accident and got thrown something like 100 feet.
I myself got hit on the freeway causing me to crash head on with the center divider at 65 mph. my truck flipped about 4 or 5 times. only injury I had was on my shoulder when i tried to push the door open.
helmets and seatbelts are mandated because some people are too dumb to make the decision.
semp
you're trolling here, right?
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you're trolling here, right?
What gave it away? :lol
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What gave it away? :lol
the "emt's not wanting to look for the bodies" part. :devil
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My Brother-Inlaw does extractions for a local Fire Rescue team. You don't wanna be what he sees when you don't buckle up.
I failed inspection for tint and had to remove it to pass. That was a few years ago and now NJ just checks emissions
due to budjet cuts. But you can still get a ticket for it.
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My Brother-Inlaw does extractions for a local Fire Rescue team. You don't wanna be what he sees when you don't buckle up.
I say let it be a choice, rather than a law.
It will prevent the ones that cannot see the logic from whizzing in the gene pool.
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The quality tint companies have a certificate sticker that is put on the B pillar near the car's ID plate.
It identifies the tint percentage or states legality.
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My Brother-Inlaw does extractions for a local Fire Rescue team. You don't wanna be what he sees when you don't buckle up.
I failed inspection for tint and had to remove it to pass. That was a few years ago and now NJ just checks emissions
due to budjet cuts. But you can still get a ticket for it.
i was involved in a head on. seatbelt let me get out of my car being pissed off. i was in a mistubishi that rolled over. the seatbelt let me get out pissed off. i think i'll keep on wearing mine.
they don't even check emissions on 96 and newer. they plug into the computer. no codes, all monitors set=pass. max 2 monitor not set from 96 yo 99. max 1 2000 to present.
their presumption is that if monitors are set, and no codes, then the car has clean emissions. i've tested cars after i passed them by the computer. nearly 1/4 of them would fail an actual emissions test.
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Mandating the use of safety equipment is just protecting the stupid. It's against the principles of Darwinism and ultimately bad for our gene pool.
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As much as I want people to think I'm the Stig, I don't quite want it that badly.
I have to say this GO STIG!!
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The quality tint companies have a certificate sticker that is put on the B pillar near the car's ID plate.
It identifies the tint percentage or states legality.
Thats hillarious too! People get the job done legally and then apply another layer. The trick a lot of officers use is to hold their ticket book on the inside of the glass. If they cant read it you get written up.
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I used to have 15% over top of 35% considering my car and interior is black it was really dark. Cop made me remove it :(.
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Mandating the use of safety equipment is just protecting the stupid. It's against the principles of Darwinism and ultimately bad for our gene pool.
i believe in them, but i don't think they should be the law...........
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I have to say this GO STIG!!
some say he keeps ear wigs for pets...........
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Thats hillarious too! People get the job done legally and then apply another layer. The trick a lot of officers use is to hold their ticket book on the inside of the glass. If they cant read it you get written up.
What if it's dark outside?
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some say he keeps ear wigs for pets...........
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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It's nearly impossible to find a car for sale here (even from the dealerships that does NOT have tint on ALL the windows.
I love living here. There may not be a whole lot to do but we've got our freedom.
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It's been proven in Arizona that is it is possible to eject a 350+ lb woman out of the passenger window of an early model toyota PU when it rolls if she is not belted in. She did go out the window, the door never opened.
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some say he keeps ear wigs for pets...........
and when he sleeps, he turns himself inside out
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they don't even check emissions on 96 and newer. they plug into the computer. no codes, all monitors set=pass. max 2 monitor not set from 96 yo 99. max 1 2000 to present.
their presumption is that if monitors are set, and no codes, then the car has clean emissions. i've tested cars after i passed them by the computer. nearly 1/4 of them would fail an actual emissions test.
Sweet......in virginia, we were using a dyno as far back as the mid-90s.
I know a guy who got put in jail when he tried to use a stand-in car to pass the test for one that couldn't.
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Sweet......in virginia, we were using a dyno as far back as the mid-90s.
I know a guy who got put in jail when he tried to use a stand-in car to pass the test for one that couldn't.
it's only been a couple years since we've stopped actually testing.
in the early 2000's we ran most everything on the dyno. we used the asm5015 test. that was actually pretty brutal on some carburated cars.
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it's only been a couple years since we've stopped actually testing.
in the early 2000's we ran most everything on the dyno. we used the asm5015 test. that was actually pretty brutal on some carburated cars.
Here it was never used on 4WD vehicles. :D
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Here it was never used on 4WD vehicles. :D
4x4's here got an idle/2500rpm test. any awd vehicle got the same.
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They stopped vehicle inspection here. However, the police will give you a ticket and put a point on your record if a cop finds anything wrong.
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Got the test done...
Legal limit in MD was 35% light penetration. Mine was at 15%.
Now, it's at 100%.
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I'm surprised you weren't pulled over the first time you drove the car.
I used to be a tech. down the street at VOB nissan.
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Got the test done...
Legal limit in MD was 35% light penetration. Mine was at 15%.
Now, it's at 100%.
i've still got a test strip showing the different grades. i'll snap a pic and post it in a bit.....
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I'm surprised you weren't pulled over the first time you drove the car.
I used to be a tech. down the street at VOB nissan.
I've had it about 6 months. Drive it usually just on the weekends. Got pulled over once before, because I didn't have the front tags on. Cop never mentioned it.
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Speaking of front tags....
If you're visiting the DC/NOVA/MD metropolitan area from a state that doesn't have front tags, do yourself a favor and get a front tag that has the name of your state in large letters.
It will stop those U-turns and pursuits before they happen.
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Had my cars tinted here an there for years.
Every state is different.
When I need tinting I do the research and find out what's legal .. no muss no fuss.
true, funny story:
Useda race my lil '62 Nova wagon in NHRA brackets ..same track, same inspectors, for a year or so.
Workin at a speed shop part time, I got a lotta decals.. my tool box got full so I started stickin 'em on the back side windows.
One fine day, the tech inspector says I had to remove them from the back side windows, as it blocked the drivers vision.
Well.
I had the back doors welded shut, took out the back side windows, put in aluminum sheet panels, did a bit of body work,
..voila!
Sedan Delivery instead of Station Wagon.
Completely legal.. and we both laughed about it at the next race.
(and the car was lighter and faster ..had no idea those windows were so heavy)
-GE aka Frank
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A few weeks ago, I met my brother for lunch. He's a County Deputy (usually flies their airplane). As he arrived at the restaurant (in the patrol car), he was behind an Altima with dark tinted head lamps and tail lamps. You could not see the turn signal; the tint was that dark. He wrote him for that. The headlights were so dim, you could not hope to see much of anything at night. He wrote him for that too. He let him slide on the dark window tints, but suggested the kid get those off as well. I saw the Nissan myself... I could barely see the kid's flashers.. There's a narrow line between being "cool' and being stupid. This kid was on the wrong side of the line.