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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: kilo2 on August 04, 2012, 12:07:25 AM
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Saw no action at their target. Seems to be confusion if it was really a target.
No allies attacked we flew around for an hour with no action. I would like to know what happened. :salute
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Saw no action at their target. Seems to be confusion if it was really a target.
No allies attacked we flew around for an hour with no action. I would like to know what happened. :salute
were you defending the do335 parts plant just northeast of the city?
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were you defending the do335 parts plant just northeast of the city?
No one came past that jumo factory.
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No one came south of that jumo factory.
i saw that after i landed. we're looking into what happened..........
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We followed our orders, and the enemy buffs didn't. They bombed the wrong target. Does that mean we won???
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I believe I know what happen.
My squad was targeted with hitting the ammo strat at Landsberg in 11.3.2
We came in to the target from due south.
Before we got there, I believe that the Munich strike group ended up getting found by the fighter CAP for the LCA's target in Landsberg. I believe the orders had them flying pretty close to it.
We only saw a few cons over our target and we picked up the cap from the Munich attack, and they said that they got hit before target.
The inbound strike group you were expecting was hit by the fighter CAP from my target.
:cheers:
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Well on our end this was the most boring fso i have been in for such a large force.
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Well on our end this was the most boring fso i have been in for such a large force.
It happens from time to time. Sometimes a strike package gets lost or confused, sometimes they get intercepted on the way in, sometimes an outbound enemy strike finds them and the escorts decide to go rogue and tear them up instead of staying on mission to escort their force.
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Large group of B17s that hit the V63 strats were all at 22-23K .... any reports to the contrary can be attributed to FW altimeters that are installed inverted :-)
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Well on our end this was the most boring fso i have been in for such a large force.
i was in the bomber group you were escorting. you didn't look all too bored to me. :devil
also, look at it this way. when bombing targets, boring can be a good thing. the group you escorted devastated their target, and landed with zero losses. in part, that is thanks to you and the rest of the fighters up there watching over us, as we knew for fact that we could man our bomb sights, and not worry about enemy fighters getting to us.
thanks for the cover sir!
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From: Axis High Command
To: All Axis pilots
Attention Luftwaffe pilots,
The axis Luftwaffe, being such a superior force, managed to wiped out both the radar and the ammo factory enemy strike groups in one fell swoop. while it left the Munich defenders with nothing to do, their job was as important as anyone else's. had the strike group made it through, damage would've been done. in this case due to the allies inability to follow orders, we were able to annihilate them(as we did in the AVA on Thursday night) at one base instead of giving them a chance to drop anything at our important parts plant. a Big <S> to the defenders of 63 and to the defenders of Munich!! The Yankee dogs will not be so enthusiastic the next time they come to germany!
Jaeger1
CiC Frame 1
Battle over Munich
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the Mighty 8TH Air Force will not be stopped!
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I think we're talking about separate missions in this post....
I was the ALLIED bomber lead that attacked A50 (Field). Which was comprised of the 325th VFG - bombing, Freebirds, 327th and Duxford Wing - escorting. And there wasn't any AXIS defenders in or near A50. I rechecked my orders and I hit the correct target. So what happened at A50?
And I'm not complaining in the least I love hitting undefended targets. Its a lot easier on my crew chief!!
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ask JG-11 what happened to the bombers that were supposed to hit the radar factory in 13.2.4 grid :furious
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Munich wasn't even touched. KN, Claim Jumpers and AK's were flying in circles until about T+55 when we heard the enemy bombers turned west. No matter how you put it someone screwed up.
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ask JG-11 what happened to the bombers that were supposed to hit the radar factory in 13.2.4 grid :furious
:lol
We do our best. :salute
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From: Axis High Command
To: All Axis pilots
Attention Luftwaffe pilots,
The axis Luftwaffe, being such a superior force, managed to wiped out both the radar and the ammo factory enemy strike groups in one fell swoop. while it left the Munich defenders with nothing to do, their job was as important as anyone else's. had the strike group made it through, damage would've been done. in this case due to the allies inability to follow orders, we were able to annihilate them(as we did in the AVA on Thursday night) at one base instead of giving them a chance to drop anything at our important parts plant. a Big <S> to the defenders of 63 and to the defenders of Munich!! The Yankee dogs will not be so enthusiastic the next time they come to germany!
Jaeger1
CiC Frame 1
Battle over Munich
BS because we made it in clear to the ammo strat at v63, were were hardly touched.
The Allied CiC had both attack groups on the same flight path. Due to a screw up at take off I don't think we all lifted from the same field (?)
My group of B-17's went in south of 53 and hit the ammo strat at V63 from south to north at about T+50. We didn't see but a few NME fighters.
The radar strike group that was headed to Munich was intercepted by the defenders of V63's ammo strat and was beat up.
My group untouched...for the most part.
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that ammo strat wasn't really ammo. the german high command knew we were trying to prevent the me262 from becoming operational in large numbers. due to this, they moved production of the jumo fan blades, and other jumo engine parts there, but left it disguised(rather cleverly) as an ammo factory, thinking that they could fool the mighty 8th air force. they were wrong. you hit a very crucial target.
the target to which was being referred, was the DO335 parts production factories just north east of the city of munich. it appears as if no one made it to that target, and it is unfortunately still producing these parts. if this aircraft is allowed to enter service, it could change the outcome of the air campaign.
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that ammo strat wasn't really ammo. the german high command knew we were trying to prevent the me262 from becoming operational in large numbers. due to this, they moved production of the jumo fan blades, and other jumo engine parts there, but left it disguised(rather cleverly) as an ammo factory, thinking that they could fool the mighty 8th air force. they were wrong. you hit a very crucial target.
the target to which was being referred, was the DO335 parts production factories just north east of the city of munich. it appears as if no one made it to that target, and it is unfortunately still producing these parts. if this aircraft is allowed to enter service, it could change the outcome of the air campaign.
They didn't make it to thier target because they ventured a bit to close to the CAP over my target.
Due to that the LCA had largely a milk run on our target.
The few NME fighters that were seen were taken care of very quickly by our fighter escorts.
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{The GunFighters} were assigned to attack the radar base in Munich. We did not make it to target cause we were intercepted by elements of six different Axis squads (everybody got a piece of us). I had 14 pilots plus escorts but we just got overwhelmed and didn't make it to target. Was a very intense fight for us and our escort and I think that might be why some squads didn't see any action cause the Axis pilots concentrated on us.
No matter how well FSO is designed things like this happen <S> to those Axis pilots, we took as many of you with us as we could. Munich was saved by your actions. Looking forward to frame 2
Raz299
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wow! sounds like the gunfighters saw a LOT of action. thankfully, our resourceful network of underground agents were able to get all of their survivors back to friendly territory.
we're gonna do our best to make frame 2 even more fun. :aok
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The Nightmares were one of the Squads tasked to escort the Gunfighters. We tried our best but were pretty much overwhelmed by the sheer number of attackers. The first 3 waves consisted of 110s, 109s, and 410s. We, along with another escort group (sorry i forget who you guys were) were able to handle the first 3 waves pretty well. The bomber gunners were scoring great hits as well. What got us was a 4th wave of at least 15 190s. They swept through and decimated the bombers. I was too low to go after any of them due to all the other German planes that had come previously. I had a ton of fun in this frame. Constant action for us lol. I came out of it with 3 kills, and somehow survived. :rock I really wish we could have got the Gunfighters to their target, but there was just too much opposition from the Germans. Gotta thank my trusty P51b for getting me home safe.
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The Axis High Command must have slipped a radio message to the Allied High Command faking an Allied BDA report that the Munich area was heavily destroyed by the 8th Air Force Troop Transport Brigade that dropped 100 lb bombs from 100 C-47s.
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The Munich attackers took a course that took them directly over 63 (IDOTS!). Therefore, the 63 defenders thought they were attacking 63 and destroyed them (thus leaving Munich defenders with nothing to do). The real 63 attack group came from the South, and were also destroyed. Even at that we managed to find some poor, lonely leftover escorts and made quick work of them.
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{The GunFighters} were assigned to attack the radar base in Munich. We did not make it to target cause we were intercepted by elements of six different Axis squads (everybody got a piece of us). I had 14 pilots plus escorts but we just got overwhelmed and didn't make it to target. Was a very intense fight for us and our escort and I think that might be why some squads didn't see any action cause the Axis pilots concentrated on us.
No matter how well FSO is designed things like this happen <S> to those Axis pilots, we took as many of you with us as we could. Munich was saved by your actions. Looking forward to frame 2
Raz299
I just was looking at the logs. HOLY CRAP DUDE!!!! you gave as much as you got! WTG! even if you didn't make it to target, you cost the evil empire heavily! :salute
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Escorts did a great job, was just one of those things. We went through the edge of the radar instead of snaking around it trying to keep our formation tight and meet the enemy head on. The scouts would have found us either way since there wasn't to many places to go that wouldn't trip radar or the Axis would have figured we'd fly between dar rings.
Perdue. What is an (IDOT)
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Perdue. What is an (IDOT)
Well, it ain't me... :D
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the evil empire shall reign supreme next week too!
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The Munich attackers took a course that took them directly over 63 (IDOTS!). Therefore, the 63 defenders thought they were attacking 63 and destroyed them (thus leaving Munich defenders with nothing to do). The real 63 attack group came from the South, and were also destroyed. Even at that we managed to find some poor, lonely leftover escorts and made quick work of them.
Again for the third time in this thread the LCA was the real V63 attackers and we were not destroyed. We were barely scratched. I know you Luftwaffe guys had a good run last night...but it wasn't that good.
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Escorts did a great job, was just one of those things. We went through the edge of the radar instead of snaking around it trying to keep our formation tight and meet the enemy head on. The scouts would have found us either way since there wasn't to many places to go that wouldn't trip radar or the Axis would have figured we'd fly between dar rings.
Perdue. What is an (IDOT)
an "IDOT" is apple trying to come up with it's own version of "IMADOT" :noid
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Allies shall prevail!
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Allies shall prevail!
Suuurrrreeee, keep watching your propaganda. :aok
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wow! sounds like the gunfighters saw a LOT of action. thankfully, our resourceful network of underground agents were able to get all of their survivors back to friendly territory.
we're gonna do our best to make frame 2 even more fun. :aok
we were engaged as soon as we left the no fly zone until it all ended just west of 63. what remained of VF-17 toyed with what I assume were the 63 defenders for a few minutes before accidentally running into the 63 strike and following them home.
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Suuurrrreeee, keep watching your propaganda. :aok
I must say you guys did a good job defending Munich, But we sure gave you hell before we went down! :)
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we were engaged as soon as we left the no fly zone until it all ended just west of 63. what remained of VF-17 toyed with what I assume were the 63 defenders for a few minutes before accidentally running into the 63 strike and following them home.
ok...i gotta ask this........any films or screenies? for those of us that didn't see any enemies? :)
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Not i ,i usually film fso's but this one was so boring i did not bother to save it. :old:
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Not i ,i usually film fso's but this one was so boring i did not bother to save it. :old:
careful whatcha wish for.......you could've ended up engaged and shot down in the first 5 minutes.......sometimes boring is good.
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i was in the bomber group you were escorting. you didn't look all too bored to me. :devil
also, look at it this way. when bombing targets, boring can be a good thing. the group you escorted devastated their target, and landed with zero losses. in part, that is thanks to you and the rest of the fighters up there watching over us, as we knew for fact that we could man our bomb sights, and not worry about enemy fighters getting to us.
thanks for the cover sir!
O this is so far from why i do fso's though,i don't play games for no fighting.
Don't get me wrong i understand this happens, but was by no means a success for an fso for me.
I would much rather you guys get to get to target and sit in your tubes knowing your safe cause I'm killing things not because it was a waste land with just us.WTG though buffs on your drops.
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careful whatcha wish for.......you could've ended up engaged and shot down in the first 5 minutes.......sometimes boring is good.
At least then i can get on with it and go to MA to kill something. :neener:
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O this is so far from why i do fso's though,i don't play games for no fighting.
Don't get me wrong i understand this happens, but was by no means a success for an fso for me.
I would much rather you guys get to get to target and sit in your tubes knowing your safe cause I'm killing things not because it was a waste land with just us.WTG though buffs on your drops.
yea, i understand that. it seems as if the axis concentrated on defending deep targets....or possibly those units tasked with coming up to the area where we flew, may have stumbled upon one of the deep strike packages enroute.
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O indeed..and I'm by no means bitter by this fso ,this happens. I was just pointing out how my hop went. :salute
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O indeed..and I'm by no means bitter by this fso ,this happens. I was just pointing out how my hop went. :salute
understood sir!!
if you don't run into any action this week, i'll put in some special orders for everyone to "hunt sunka". :devil
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ALLIES, you will be hunted and killed so you might wanna stay home and write your mommy!!!! :devil :devil :bolt: :salute
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At least then i can get on with it and go to MA to kill something. :neener:
generally, when i leave an fso from an early death, and go to one of the ma's, i tend to die quite a few grisly cartoon deaths. :bolt: :neener:
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If you knew what was waiting for you in Munich, you would probably avoid coming this week also...
Just sayin'
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Even more boring then the first fso..did not even have any targets to hit after we where told to hold back...dont think i will do last one.
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Even more boring then the first fso..did not even have any targets to hit after we where told to hold back...dont think i will do last one.
i'm kinda shocked. it looked like nearly everyone was engaged. i landed my birds, and went looking around, and saw action still happening with 30 minutes left to go. our group was engaged over the target, but we still leveled it with minimal losses, thanks to our escorts.
who told you to hold back? pm that to me please?
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Maybe our escorts did such a good job that i did not see one red guy..i think there where 1 or 2 floating around.
But i been doing fso's for over 5 years and never had 2 so boring in a row.
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Sunka,
A quick look at the logs shows that is exactly what happened...
The skies were swarming with Bf-109Gs, Fw-190As, and Me-410s, but the 3 Squads assigned as escorts to the Buffs in Purple Group (334th, VMF-101, and LCA) shot down or drew off so many defenders that the Buffs made it in and out of the Target Area virtually intact.
The whole point was that the Bombers were able to destroy 91 objects at the Fuel Factory in 9,7,7 sector, and made it home again.
The combined escorts had 20 kills (WTG LCA with 13 Kills!) but paid a heavy price with 15 killed or captured.
Good Job Purple Group!
<S>
CptA
CO
VMF-101 Nightmares
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The LCA was told by qbert to fly an advanced sweep of the target area once the bombers were a sector out.
We ran into a few early (maybe scout?) 109s about a sector out, about a two key pads out we ran into a group of 8-12 190A-8s that we quickly engaged since they were in the direct flight path of the bombers. In a moment of stupidity I got tangled up with a few and was quickly out of action. I rode along with a few squaddies to continue to help direct the action. After the bombers were RTB there was a report of a 190's-109's and Me410's over A46. After the bombers were in the safe zone my guys rearmed and went back to clean up.
The LCA had a great time in our P-38's :joystick:
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Right on ..i guess in this case it was more...who bombed our targets...cause there where non for our 24's,just a combo of 2 bad fso's,when we where escorts no enemy ,then we where buffs nothing to blow up.I stay up late for this on the east cost. :neener:
Good job fighters and Ty for the cover,did not mean to come off like i don't think they did well.