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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 01:35:53 PM »
ask JG-11 what happened to the bombers that were supposed to hit the radar factory in 13.2.4 grid  :furious

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2012, 02:43:30 PM »
From: Axis High Command
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Attention Luftwaffe pilots,
The axis Luftwaffe, being such a superior force, managed to wiped out both the radar and the ammo factory enemy strike groups in one fell swoop. while it left the Munich defenders with nothing to do, their job was as important as anyone else's. had the strike group made it through, damage would've been done. in this case due to the allies inability to follow orders, we were able to annihilate them(as we did in the AVA on Thursday night) at one base instead of giving them a chance to drop anything at our important parts plant. a Big <S> to the defenders of 63 and to the defenders of Munich!! The Yankee dogs will not be so enthusiastic the next time they come to germany!

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BS because we made it in clear to the ammo strat at v63, were were hardly touched.


The Allied CiC had both attack groups on the same flight path. Due to a screw up at take off I don't think we all lifted from the same field (?)

My group of B-17's went in south of 53 and hit the ammo strat at V63 from south to north at about T+50. We didn't see but a few NME fighters.

The radar strike group that was headed to Munich was intercepted by the defenders of V63's ammo strat and was beat up.

My group untouched...for the most part.
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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 02:51:43 PM »
that ammo strat wasn't really ammo. the german high command knew we were trying to prevent the me262 from becoming operational in large numbers. due to this, they moved production of the jumo fan blades, and other jumo engine parts there, but left it disguised(rather cleverly) as an ammo factory, thinking that they could fool the mighty 8th air force. they were wrong. you hit a very crucial target.

 the target to which was being referred, was the DO335 parts production factories just north east of the city of munich. it appears as if no one made it to that target, and it is unfortunately still producing these parts. if this aircraft is allowed to enter service, it could change the outcome of the air campaign.
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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2012, 02:56:30 PM »
that ammo strat wasn't really ammo. the german high command knew we were trying to prevent the me262 from becoming operational in large numbers. due to this, they moved production of the jumo fan blades, and other jumo engine parts there, but left it disguised(rather cleverly) as an ammo factory, thinking that they could fool the mighty 8th air force. they were wrong. you hit a very crucial target.

 the target to which was being referred, was the DO335 parts production factories just north east of the city of munich. it appears as if no one made it to that target, and it is unfortunately still producing these parts. if this aircraft is allowed to enter service, it could change the outcome of the air campaign.


They didn't make it to thier target because they ventured a bit to close to the CAP over my target.

Due to that the LCA had largely a milk run on our target.

The few NME fighters that were seen were taken care of very quickly by our fighter escorts.


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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2012, 03:01:51 PM »
{The GunFighters} were assigned to attack the radar base in Munich. We did not make it to target cause we were intercepted by elements of six different Axis squads (everybody got a piece of us). I had 14 pilots plus escorts but we just got overwhelmed and didn't make it to target. Was a very intense fight for us and our escort and I think that might be why some squads didn't see any action cause the Axis pilots concentrated on us.

No matter how well FSO is designed things like this happen <S> to those Axis pilots, we took as many of you with us as we could. Munich was saved by your actions. Looking forward to frame 2

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2012, 03:16:32 PM »
wow! sounds like the gunfighters saw a LOT of action. thankfully, our resourceful network of underground agents were able to get all of their survivors back to friendly territory.

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2012, 05:06:54 PM »
The Nightmares were one of the Squads tasked to escort the Gunfighters. We tried our best but were pretty much overwhelmed by the sheer number of attackers. The first 3 waves consisted of 110s, 109s, and 410s. We, along with another escort group (sorry i forget who you guys were) were able to handle the first 3 waves pretty well. The bomber gunners were scoring great hits as well. What got us was a 4th wave of at least 15 190s. They swept through and decimated the bombers. I was too low to go after any of them due to all the other German planes that had come previously. I had a ton of fun in this frame. Constant action for us lol. I came out of it with 3 kills, and somehow survived.  :rock I really wish we could have got the Gunfighters to their target, but there was just too much opposition from the Germans. Gotta thank my trusty P51b for getting me home safe.

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2012, 05:52:48 PM »
The Axis High Command must have slipped a radio message to the Allied High Command faking an Allied BDA report that the Munich area was heavily destroyed by the 8th Air Force Troop Transport Brigade that dropped 100 lb bombs from 100 C-47s.

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2012, 06:53:48 PM »
The Munich attackers took a course that took them directly over 63 (IDOTS!). Therefore, the 63 defenders thought they were attacking 63 and destroyed them (thus leaving Munich defenders with nothing to do). The real 63 attack group came from the South, and were also destroyed. Even at that we managed to find some poor, lonely leftover escorts and made quick work of them.
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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2012, 06:58:40 PM »
{The GunFighters} were assigned to attack the radar base in Munich. We did not make it to target cause we were intercepted by elements of six different Axis squads (everybody got a piece of us). I had 14 pilots plus escorts but we just got overwhelmed and didn't make it to target. Was a very intense fight for us and our escort and I think that might be why some squads didn't see any action cause the Axis pilots concentrated on us.

No matter how well FSO is designed things like this happen <S> to those Axis pilots, we took as many of you with us as we could. Munich was saved by your actions. Looking forward to frame 2

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2012, 07:51:31 PM »
Escorts did a great job, was just one of those things. We went through the edge of the radar instead of snaking around it trying to keep our formation tight and meet the enemy head on. The scouts would have found us either way since there wasn't to many places to go that wouldn't trip radar or the Axis would have figured we'd fly between dar rings.

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2012, 08:03:11 PM »
Perdue. What is an (IDOT)

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2012, 08:55:48 PM »
the evil empire shall reign supreme next week too!

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2012, 10:18:03 PM »
The Munich attackers took a course that took them directly over 63 (IDOTS!). Therefore, the 63 defenders thought they were attacking 63 and destroyed them (thus leaving Munich defenders with nothing to do). The real 63 attack group came from the South, and were also destroyed. Even at that we managed to find some poor, lonely leftover escorts and made quick work of them.



Again for the third time in this thread the LCA was the real V63 attackers and we were not destroyed. We were barely scratched. I know you Luftwaffe guys had a good run last night...but it wasn't that good.

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Re: Munich defenders
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2012, 10:50:22 PM »
Escorts did a great job, was just one of those things. We went through the edge of the radar instead of snaking around it trying to keep our formation tight and meet the enemy head on. The scouts would have found us either way since there wasn't to many places to go that wouldn't trip radar or the Axis would have figured we'd fly between dar rings.

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