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Title: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Rob52240 on August 10, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
NPR had a piece titled "Online Harassment Gets Real For Female Gamers".

I see some truth in it when applied to Aces High.

Story here:
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=158433079&m=158433074
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: kilo2 on August 10, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
NPR had a piece titled "Online Harassment Gets Real For Female Gamers".

I see some truth in it when applied to Aces High.

Story here:
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=158433079&m=158433074

Aces High is softball compared to many other games. There was a woman who played COD in our group and the amount of harassment she got was stunning.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 01:12:53 PM
Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Rob52240 on August 10, 2012, 01:21:05 PM
Aces High is softball compared to many other games. There was a woman who played COD in our group and the amount of harassment she got was stunning.

Softball or not, it's bad for the game IMHO. 

I can only imagine the crap that gets said in games dominated by teens and 20 somethings.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Groth on August 10, 2012, 01:21:54 PM
 I remember RN, who would only fly C-47 's, and Lady White, GF of squadie who 'tried it on for size'...Flossy's B-17, who I remember escorting in P-47early mark in SEA while bf=110's attacked outside of their 'allowed' air-space..she still appears and <S>..and than there's Betty, again <S>, and Txmom(look for ZBS productions, great audio dramas) <S>. Most I've seen have been civil...always couple numnutz.
 JGroth
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Shuffler on August 10, 2012, 01:28:07 PM
Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: shegotya on August 10, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.

I must still be in a drunken stupor  :t
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
I must still be in a drunken stupor  :t

It is  Friday and its  after lunchits perfectly acceptable.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Pepprr on August 10, 2012, 02:06:27 PM
I must still be in a drunken stupor  :t

hahaha...too funny SGY  :aok

IMO, I have found most of the guys that play AH are quite respectful.
But every now and then you get the odd one that likes to try to ruin your day...
usually when I shoot them down and it squashes their manliness...hehehe... :D
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: doright on August 10, 2012, 02:15:20 PM
Thank you for proving the point that harassment exists and mindless trolls like you should be called on it especially in the MA.

It is  Friday and its  after lunchits perfectly acceptable.

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Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Rob52240 on August 10, 2012, 02:18:58 PM
Thank you for proving the point that harassment exists and mindless trolls like you should be called on it especially in the MA.


You're accusing me of harassment?
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
He didn't take what I said in the way I ment and either Shegotya didnt take it the way it was intended or shes not joking.

Damn squaddies always  standing up to defend me from detractors even when its self inflicted.

Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: shegotya on August 10, 2012, 02:58:02 PM
hahaha...too funny SGY  :aok

IMO, I have found most of the guys that play AH are quite respectful.
But every now and then you get the odd one that likes to try to ruin your day...
usually when I shoot them down and it squashes their manliness...hehehe... :D


 :aok
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: bj229r on August 10, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
Most of the crap I've seen girls receive is invariably from grade-schoolers
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nypsy on August 10, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
The guild I was in in World of Warcraft was probably 30% women. Of course WoW attracts a different player then first person shooters or Aces High.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 03:06:12 PM
The guild I was in in World of Warcraft was probably 30% women. Of course WoW attracts a different player then first person shooters or Aces High.

I dont know  My Rift/ABP/TSW guild has alot of  females that  are regualy in BF3
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Hap on August 10, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
I'm all grown up, and do not have the stomach for 90% of our BBS bile.  Why girls don't stick around?  View the posts on this thread.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: jimbo71 on August 10, 2012, 03:18:55 PM
Because they have to go to the kitchen, to make me a sandwich.   :bolt: :banana: :neener:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nO62XQkmnQ
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
I'm all grown up, and do not have the stomach for 90% of our BBS bile.  Why girls don't stick around?  View the posts on this thread.

Please give an example (excpet for Jimbo's obvious joke)  of bile in this paticular thread.

Lighten up it's  friday post noon come have  a margaritah with Flossy, SGY and I
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nypsy on August 10, 2012, 03:26:19 PM
I'm all grown up, and do not have the stomach for 90% of our BBS bile.  Why girls don't stick around?  View the posts on this thread.

This thread and BB are pretty tame IMO.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 10, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
The term 'bile' may have a slightly difference inference in this context.

There have been times my Wife looks over my shoulder when I am reading the bulletin board.  One day, she asked a question.

"Hon, are they really grown men?"

Now, after I picked myself off the floor from laughing so hard, I had to give her that puzzled look of utter confusion as I had no idea how to answer her.  She just turned, walked away, shaking her head muttering something about "better you than me".

At another time, she simply stated, "If I want that much drama, I'll turn on one of the "Real Housewives" shows."

She's a hoot!
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 03:40:27 PM

"Hon, are they really grown men?"


Isnt that a tad sterottypical(probably not the rigth word)
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Tracerfi on August 10, 2012, 03:41:11 PM
The term 'bile' may have a slightly difference inference in this context.

There have been times my Wife looks over my shoulder when I am reading the bulletin board.  One day, she asked a question.

"Hon, are they really grown men?"

Now, after I picked myself off the floor from laughing so hard, I had to give her that puzzled look of utter confusion as I had no idea how to answer her.  She just turned, walked away, shaking her head muttering something about "better you than me".

At another time, she simply stated, "If I want that much drama, I'll turn on one of the "Real Housewives" shows."

She's a hoot!
:rofl  :aok
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 10, 2012, 03:44:38 PM

Isnt that a tad sterottypical

It was a legitimate question, not a statement.  At the time I was trying to read a David Wales thread.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Ardy123 on August 10, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
At the time I was trying to read a David Wales thread.
That's your fav thread... c'on we know it...
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 10, 2012, 03:47:07 PM
It was a legitimate question, not a statement.  At the time I was trying to read a David Wales thread.

Well that explains  ALOT lol,  and yes girl gamers  can get alot of harassment, but then again  almost EVERYONE takes alot of harassment  just look at how my 1st comment was taken by some folks, I ment that as a jibe at myself but  seems the only ones that got it are the women that have posted in this thread(and Shuffler :confused:)


Fact of the matter is  the online culture sucks(I blame WoW) and its not going to change  for awhile. Harrasment is everywhere look at 200 sometime and it is even worse in alot of other games and that doesnt mean its all one way either.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Ten60 on August 10, 2012, 04:23:20 PM
My wife helps me with my rudder every once in a while when I can't reach it...
:joystick:  :banana:  :x  :rock  :bolt:
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Babalonian on August 10, 2012, 05:17:30 PM
Aces High is softball compared to many other games. There was a woman who played COD in our group and the amount of harassment she got was stunning.

This, while it may be in jest in AH, our community is rather mature and tame compared to those of XBox, Blizzard or PSO.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Wiley on August 10, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
This forum and game are a radiant beacon of enlightened thought and civility compared to most online games.  Sure, there's drama and some BS but the signal to noise ratio here is way above most others.

Thank you for your service, Skuzzy.  I tried to read a David Wales thread once.  I got about 2 pages into it and stopped.  The resultant brain damage meant I had to relearn the basic layout of my home and how to tie my shoes again.

I don't get why people jump on girls in games.  Wish they wouldn't, it's distasteful, but again, this game ain't nothing.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Babalonian on August 10, 2012, 05:57:07 PM
This forum and game are a radiant beacon of enlightened thought and civility compared to most online games.  Sure, there's drama and some BS but the signal to noise ratio here is way above most others.

Thank you for your service, Skuzzy.  I tried to read a David Wales thread once.  I got about 2 pages into it and stopped.  The resultant brain damage meant I had to relearn the basic layout of my home and how to tie my shoes again.

I don't get why people jump on girls in games.  Wish they wouldn't, it's distasteful, but again, this game ain't nothing.

Wiley.

Want entertainment (or, alternatively, a study into bipolar online-personas), cross check how many people in the first few DW threads were asking/anticipating his PNG status and are now here on the Church of DW bandwagon.  Skuzzy nailed it, he stumbled into the padded room with only one door in this thread.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: shiv on August 10, 2012, 06:29:17 PM
Story was in the NY Times too:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/us/sexual-harassment-in-online-gaming-stirs-anger.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/us/sexual-harassment-in-online-gaming-stirs-anger.html?_r=1)
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Rich46yo on August 11, 2012, 09:47:08 AM
It was a legitimate question, not a statement.  At the time I was trying to read a David Wales thread.

Tell her that even grown men have to occasionally have fun. Take life to serious and you'll end up a statistic. Its no great secret to his church what David Wales was.

Harassment is different. Even forgetting about the girls some of the comments from players , toward new players asking simple questions, is an embarrassment. A new player knows little about the game. Thats what being "new" means. If you dont want to help the guy, or girl, then just keep your yap shut.

Ive honestly never seen, or heard, any sexual harassment. My experience is, if anything, players are more helpful towards Ladys.

But this question is easily answered. Females, in general, have to much sense to spend thousands of hours of their Lives zinging around in a cartoon P-51 in front of a computer screen, while in their Jam-Jams and slippers, with their little WW-ll flappy hats on. :rofl I get three head shakes a day from my old Lady. Even tho I bring home a pay check.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: lunatic1 on August 11, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.
it's talk like that,that seems insinsative to the lady players in the this game..personally i like hearing a ladys voice on the radio.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Ruah on August 11, 2012, 09:59:09 AM
young men will be young men - the same disposition towards women rife in MMOs is applied, with different degrees of intensity, to other minorities as well - how many racial slurs, ethnic slurs, ageist, classist. . . women being the largest MMO minority, and with the added sexual tension there (they have what you can't get - or think you want but can't sort it out - or whatever puberty complex/confusion) it is only that much stronger. 

AH2 is actually more then 'soft-ball' it is practically non-existent when compared to more FPS games and teh PS3/X-Box crowd.  I am not saying it is perfect - but for the msot part - people on AH are a little more mature, or at least, have some degree of representation here. . .so you will gt pigeon holed if you go to far.

It is a community thing really - if you see something, say something, do something.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: lunatic1 on August 11, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
and there is no reason for any body to give these ladie's a diffecult time in this game.there here to play and have a good time,and have fun,and if you don't like women in the game,then go to another arena :bolt:
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: eagl on August 11, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
Because they have to go to the kitchen, to make me a sandwich.   :bolt: :banana: :neener:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nO62XQkmnQ

I wonder if there is a market for aftermarket one-piece lawnmower handles.  Those stupid two-piece handles are really annoying and they're only used so the mowers can be shipped in smaller boxes. 
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: 321BAR on August 11, 2012, 10:31:33 AM
Usually Iin my experience they dont stick around becasue they sober up.
Well that explains  ALOT lol,  and yes girl gamers  can get alot of harassment, but then again  almost EVERYONE takes alot of harassment  just look at how my 1st comment was taken by some folks, I ment that as a jibe at myself but  seems the only ones that got it are the women that have posted in this thread(and Shuffler :confused:)
:lol if this is insulting to women then i need new friends in real life because i didn't know insulting myself etc and making people laugh was disrespectful :lol
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Karnak on August 11, 2012, 10:41:15 AM
Well that explains  ALOT lol,  and yes girl gamers  can get alot of harassment, but then again  almost EVERYONE takes alot of harassment  just look at how my 1st comment was taken by some folks, I ment that as a jibe at myself but  seems the only ones that got it are the women that have posted in this thread(and Shuffler :confused:)
The difference I see is that the harassment guys tend to get is not based on their gender while the harassment women get is often explicitly based on their gender and demeaning stereotypes of what role their gender should be playing, or overtly sexual.

Yes, it is bad.  AH is comparatively mild when looked at next to X-Box, but is harsher than WoW, probably due to WoW's high number of women players acting as a damper on that stuff.  That said, being comparatively mild doesn't mean it is OK.  I have seen a few things over the years that made me uncomfortable with how the AH community reacts to female members of the community.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: betty on August 11, 2012, 09:54:44 PM
Hiya everyone....i love this game, I may not playas much as I use to but im still lurking around :)

Back to the subject....when I first started playin AH I met a lot of really cool people. Yeah there are some dummies out there but there are a heck of a lot more good people than bad for sure. I wasnt going to let them few bad apples ruin my fun or a game in which I really enjoyed. Aces High became more than just a game once SGY held her first get together at her house and then after that her and I started the Dayton Gathering...meeting some really awesome people in person, putting faces with gameIDs and voices. The game will be what you make it and allow it to be. No matter what game it is or what game system you play on. As in real life there will always be someone that will try to cut you down to make themselves feel better. If you just dont let them ruin something that matters to you, you will always win. Besides...in AH...skuzzy is great about helping in harrassment situations, just record and take screen shots....i have honestly only done this 1 time as a last resort...
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: betty on August 11, 2012, 09:56:10 PM
I must still be in a drunken stupor  :t

Speaking of which...i need a refill please  :banana: :t
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: xbrit on August 11, 2012, 10:57:25 PM
Just don't get near Bettys feet ............ :devil
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Silat on August 12, 2012, 12:45:25 AM
I do not get the point of this thread?
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: betty on August 12, 2012, 12:56:37 AM
I do not get the point of this thread?

Thought u was busy wit th the olympics? Im gonna need me heels back soon :)
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: ebfd11 on August 12, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
I must still be in a drunken stupor  :t

Ohhh Dammm I thought you were sober when you propositioned me. LOL J/K  :salute SGY.

LawnDart

Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: ap1102 on August 12, 2012, 09:33:17 AM
well personally ive seen a lot of harrassment toward the girls in this game.  i mean hoagi and joker are harrassed unmericfully by the aces high crowd. i just dont see how they keep flying..............lol

<S> joker and hoagi

rhino
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 13, 2012, 09:05:19 AM
it's talk like that,that seems insinsative to the lady players in the this game..personally i like hearing a ladys voice on the radio.


Learn to loosen up and realise it's not meant the way you take it the wrong way once again  the only people that have taken this the wrong way have been guys that only see things one way and are being overly pessimistic.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nathan60 on August 13, 2012, 09:08:22 AM
The difference I see is that the harassment guys tend to get is not based on their gender while the harassment women get is often explicitly based on their gender and demeaning stereotypes of what role their gender should be playing, or overtly sexual.

Yes, it is bad.  AH is comparatively mild when looked at next to X-Box, but is harsher than WoW, probably due to WoW's high number of women players acting as a damper on that stuff.  That said, being comparatively mild doesn't mean it is OK.  I have seen a few things over the years that made me uncomfortable with how the AH community reacts to female members of the community.

well if someone is going to harrass ou they are going to go for the most obvious things they can.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 13, 2012, 12:59:35 PM

Yes, it is bad.  AH is comparatively mild when looked at next to X-Box, but is harsher than WoW, probably due to WoW's high number of women players acting as a damper on that stuff. 

You've never tuned to the Barrens chat channel in WoW. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Babalonian on August 13, 2012, 03:37:29 PM
I wonder if there is a market for aftermarket one-piece lawnmower handles.  Those stupid two-piece handles are really annoying and they're only used so the mowers can be shipped in smaller boxes. 


Dude, no idea.  Like the one/only thing I've use a small welder for almsot every summer for the last 4 years.  Oh, waitaminute...
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Karnak on August 13, 2012, 05:34:37 PM
You've never tuned to the Barrens chat channel in WoW. 

ack-ack
I play Alliance on an RP server, so no.

I do understand that Barrens chat is really, really bad and that non-RP servers are worse than RP servers.
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: Nypsy on August 14, 2012, 05:52:16 AM
You've never tuned to the Barrens chat channel in WoW. 

ack-ack

 :rofl
Title: Re: Why don't girls stick around?
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 14, 2012, 10:59:28 AM
The term 'bile' may have a slightly difference inference in this context.

There have been times my Wife looks over my shoulder when I am reading the bulletin board.  One day, she asked a question.

"Hon, are they really grown men?"

Now, after I picked myself off the floor from laughing so hard, I had to give her that puzzled look of utter confusion as I had no idea how to answer her.  She just turned, walked away, shaking her head muttering something about "better you than me".

At another time, she simply stated, "If I want that much drama, I'll turn on one of the "Real Housewives" shows."

She's a hoot!
And to think. This place is a mere shadow of its former self. Its now damn near sterile by comparison  LMAO