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Title: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 05:35:34 PM
For Redbull (per his request -- so don't go posting a bunch of nonsense here, please)...

No guns on me in this film, not even close, when you fired and took my wing off.  Put yourself in your own aeroplane and see.

http://www.4shared.com/file/rpEg1oCt/Redbull_lag.html

This lag is much more than I see from most people.


Here's a screenshot showing your round on it's way to me (it took my wing off)... I'm already way past you and my wing is fine:

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh561/AH_Midway/Redbull_lag.png)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Noir on August 22, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
I have seen weird things this evening too  :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: kvuo75 on August 22, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
midway, that's your film, it wont show what he saw. you'd need his film..
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 05:51:54 PM
midway, that's your film, it wont show what he saw. you'd need his film..


I know.  That's the point.  There is no way he could have shot me from what I saw.  Yet he killed me.  I wanted him to see what I saw.  I'm sure on his film it was right... but I moved to avoid his guns, and my film shows I did... yet I'm dead. :frown:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
I have seen weird things this evening too  :old:

I've seen this with Redbull for many days and frequently...  He and I have talked about it several times.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: kvuo75 on August 22, 2012, 05:55:27 PM
I know.  That's the point.  There is no way he could have shot me from what I saw.  Yet he killed me.  I wanted him to see what I saw.  I'm sure on his film it was right... but I moved to avoid his guns, and my film shows I did... yet I'm dead. :frown:

ok, i thought you were doing a variant of a collision whine..  carry on.   :aok
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ink on August 22, 2012, 05:57:01 PM
being such a great killer as you are....why did you not put him away first?


I am just wondering..... I see you all the tame talking smack about your mighty spitfire......yet you couldn't kill him.....  :headscratch:


but now have to explain away your death to "lag"........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


priceless

Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: JOACH1M on August 22, 2012, 05:59:27 PM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: zack1234 on August 22, 2012, 05:59:49 PM
midway, that's your film, it wont show what he saw. you'd need his film..


Hi Kvou
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 06:04:32 PM
being such a great killer as you are....why did you not put him away first?


I am just wondering..... I see you all the tame talking smack about your mighty spitfire......yet you couldn't kill him.....  :headscratch:


but now have to explain away your death to "lag"........ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


priceless



Ask him about the prior fight...  :D

Want film? :D :D :D :x
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 06:07:17 PM
Screenshot of the closest you came to having guns on me  (at no point did I see guns on me).

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh561/AH_Midway/Redbull_lag2.png)


Below is the exact point my wing came off... obviously never having guns on me... and me being far from your rounds as they fired.. shows what I'm saying... big time lag.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh561/AH_Midway/REdbull_lag3.png)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 22, 2012, 06:09:49 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 06:10:15 PM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?

Am not whining... am simply showing him what I've been telling him.  He wanted to see this. :angel:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: danny76 on August 22, 2012, 06:15:30 PM
Quality kill redbull :salute :joystick: :devil
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Babalonian on August 22, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
Your film does not show him kicking rudder, which (going off just your film) would of given him a solution on your left wing resulting in the damage you couldn't possibley of recieved. (Nice rudder-kick-shot RB :cheers:)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 06:19:02 PM
Your film does not show him kicking rudder, which (going off jsut your film) would of given him a solution on your right wing resulting in the damage you couldn't possibley of recieved. (Nice rudder-kick-shot RB :cheers:)

He never had guns on me during that part of the fight from what I see on my computer.  I'm sure he did on his computer... but I moved in a way to avoid a gun solution purposefully... and as you can see in the film, I did it successfully... however even with no guns on me from my point of view, I'm dead from rounds that never got close to me. :frown:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: W7LPNRICK on August 22, 2012, 06:23:09 PM
Happens a lot due to lag...I've had several time I knew for sure I was clear & poof! I blew up. If his PC sees a hit, that's all that matters...Not what yours sees. ie: I'm seeing I'm on your six & squeeze the trigger, my PC sees hit sprites, & your wing flies off on my screen, it kills you on your PC, visaversa. The shooter's PC tells AH you lost a wing & it towers you. :salute
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: cattb on August 22, 2012, 06:39:55 PM
Who,
 Lag,
 Lets see.. I have had a plane over 1k out shoot me down.
                Have had a plane 600 out in front trying to get away from me, disappear in the ground. Here I thought the plane went down. Next thing I know the plane is behind me shooting me down.
                Have a plane 800+ in front of me, then all of a sudden Im Hoed and the plane is over 1k behind me. I never even seen the plane go by me.

               Just think its amazing. Your connection goes through how many routers to the server then back to your computer while the same with other players. Just think about how many miles all those packets travel to play this game. Oh and about the overseas people that play this game, heck they go through more routers and miles.
               It is not always going to be perfect.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
Who,
 Lag,
 Lets see.. I have had a plane over 1k out shoot me down.
                Have had a plane 600 out in front trying to get away from me, disappear in the ground. Here I thought the plane went down. Next thing I know the plane is behind me shooting me down.
                Have a plane 800+ in front of me, then all of a sudden Im Hoed and the plane is over 1k behind me. I never even seen the plane go by me.

               Just think its amazing. Your connection goes through how many routers to the server then back to your computer while the same with other players. Just think about how many miles all those packets travel to play this game. Oh and about the overseas people that play this game, heck they go through more routers and miles.
               It is not always going to be perfect.

I understand lag and for 99% of my encounters it's minimal.  My point to Redbull was/is that his seems to be severe and often, as I've previously told him.  He's been wanting to see it, ergo my post.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 22, 2012, 06:51:53 PM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?
  :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 22, 2012, 07:00:11 PM
I just joeblack'ed your ass! jk  :rofl  :noid
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Krupinski on August 22, 2012, 07:02:27 PM
Hax I say!! Hax!!  :noid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bnn_V2ws88&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 22, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
I just joeblack'ed your ass! jk  :rofl  :noid

Boe Jlack'd? :huh
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 22, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
I see what you did there  :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Fulcrum on August 22, 2012, 07:15:25 PM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?

OOOOOooooo!  ooo OOOOOooooo! *Wildly waves hand in air*. Pick me!!  Pick me!!  Everyone who kills me is lagging like Joe Black with Sunspots!!  I've got the films to proves it too!! :bolt:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: uptown on August 22, 2012, 07:17:15 PM
I just joeblack'ed your ass! jk  :rofl  :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Eric19 on August 22, 2012, 08:02:48 PM
Lag switch......... :furious
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: LCADolby on August 22, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
I did a thread like this... Didn't end well.  :confused:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Tupac on August 22, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
I did a thread like this... Didn't end well.  :confused:

Free Dolby!
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: JOACH1M on August 22, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
I'd like to add to my list, who would have known it would grow so fast?!


4. Ace8
5. KoW


Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: zack1234 on August 23, 2012, 12:32:49 AM
So Midway owned Redbull :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 23, 2012, 12:45:00 AM
So Midway owned Redbull :)
Spot on old chap!  :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: zack1234 on August 23, 2012, 12:52:06 AM
No shame in it Red  :rofl

Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 23, 2012, 02:58:17 AM
RedBull's K4 pwned Middy's Spit8 in a turnfight, huh?
The spit8 turns around in 15.2 seconds, the K4 needs 19.3 to do the same. No comment.
<opening two weissbeers>  Cheers RedBull   :cheers:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 23, 2012, 03:06:01 AM
RedBull's K4 pwned Middy's Spit8 in a turnfight, huh?
The spit8 turns around in 15.2 seconds, the K4 needs 19.3 to do the same. No comment.
<opening two weissbeers>  Cheers RedBull   :cheers:

Hey thanks D, how ya been sir? Hope youre well  :cheers:  :salute Good to see ya
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 23, 2012, 03:09:34 AM
At least im alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heZQVYvHPsc
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Bruv119 on August 23, 2012, 03:32:02 AM
Redbull,   

I hope your family weren't all on netflix when you made this dastardly and unfair kill on middy.   :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 23, 2012, 03:55:26 AM
Redbull,   

I hope your family weren't all on netflix when you made this dastardly and unfair kill on middy.   :old:
They probably were, during the day unless I have a duel to do, I log in and out fly a sortie here and there while lagging like a mofo lol, generally it is worse for me than other people, believe me! I may have a film of what a bad day looks like on my screen, it sucks, I usually do my flying at night or early in the morning unless Im bored  :cheers:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 23, 2012, 04:09:00 AM
Whaaaa whaaaa middy got killed! Whaaaaa he is crying like a little girl!
Whaaa whaaaa he cleaned my balls, lets defend him against the rotten evil unfair cheater haxxor redbull!

beware, trollercoaster alert!  :lol
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Noir on August 23, 2012, 05:03:32 AM
yesterday was weird, I've seen people flying sideways, people spawning 200 yards for where the cv was displayed  :headscratch:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Max on August 23, 2012, 07:11:42 AM
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1741/whocaresr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/whocaresr.jpg/)

Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 23, 2012, 07:23:52 AM
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1741/whocaresr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/whocaresr.jpg/)



Indeed!
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: grizz441 on August 23, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
Boe Jlack'd? :huh

…I wear the jlack in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each minute we lose a hundred fine young cartoon men.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: grizz441 on August 23, 2012, 08:54:48 AM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?

 :eek:

It's dangerous to antagonize Sunbat you know.  Just ask Rud3boi or JoeBlack.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: LCADolby on August 23, 2012, 10:52:40 AM
:eek:

It's dangerous to antagonize Sunbat you know.  Just ask Rud3boi or JoeBlack.
Who is this Sunbat of which you speak?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Slate on August 23, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
    HTC has a brand new spit for ya Middy in the hanger for free!

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/rami-69/Ramy%201/Ramy%202/Septiembre%20y%20octubre%202008/navidad%202008/Gif%20y%20Smile/spitfire_ground_md_wht.gif)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: R 105 on August 23, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
 While I have a great fiber optic connection I still only have a frame rate in the high teens because of my old computer and video card. Most times I will be right on top of another plane and miss him because I think they are long gone from my sights before I ever fire. I will see a plane way out in front or way behind my plane and be getting hit by them because they are way closer than I see and I guess that is the lag. I shoot fine when de-acking or porking a base against stationary targets. I found out a long time ago what you are seeing is not always what your opponent sees.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Slate on August 23, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
  Yes  Many times you think theres no way he could hit me, or he's 1k out and then you're dead.  :headscratch:
  Up another plane have fun it's a Game after all.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Nathan60 on August 23, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
damn you guys  all bit the bait for 4 pages?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 23, 2012, 11:32:46 AM
damn you guys  all bit the bait for 4 pages?

 :D
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: JOACH1M on August 23, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
:eek:

It's dangerous to antagonize Sunbat you know.  Just ask Rud3boi or JoeBlack.
I like to poke the "bear" from time to time.  :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Nathan60 on August 23, 2012, 11:37:07 AM
I like to poke the "bear" from time to time.  :)

What kinda bear we talking here you may wanna rephrase that.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Butcher on August 23, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Meh Redbull only goes warp 2 even when netflicks on at his house....

JoeBlack surpasses Warp 9.9 into Ludacris Speed.
(http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Stop+this+thing+We+cant+sir+we+have+to+slow+_9d71071df47f571a5f244b6409083235.jpg)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: VonMessa on August 23, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/nonsense_logo_messy.jpg)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Yarbles on August 25, 2012, 09:05:11 AM
solution

 :lol

We should have a solutions quizz;

Here is an easy one "Personal waste matter solution" =?

Anyone who guesses it has to post their own, 
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Iraqvet on August 26, 2012, 09:34:38 AM
Quality kill redbull :salute :joystick: :devil

 :rofl :aok
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 26, 2012, 09:39:27 AM
Your film does not show him kicking rudder, which (going off just your film) would of given him a solution on your left wing resulting in the damage you couldn't possibley of recieved. (Nice rudder-kick-shot RB :cheers:)

Why would my film not show him with guns on me at any time if he did use rudder for a shot?  :headscratch:

Are you saying it is normal for an opponent to shoot you down without a gun solution shown at any time on your own film? :frown:

When he first fired, I was nowhere close to his 12 o'clock, and you can see in the screenshot my wing came off far from where his rounds were heading. :cry

I don't see a similar problem with others and would like to understand why there is such a huge lag issue here.  The same thing has happened with RedBull many other times.  Am confused. :confused:

I understand lag, I think, and if Bedrull was watching a couple of Netflix movies... well... I suppose that can explain lag, but how did he get me with no gun solution on my film at any time with this shot? :huh

 :noid
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: kvuo75 on August 26, 2012, 11:48:19 AM

I understand lag, I think, and if Bedrull was watching a couple of Netflix movies... well... I suppose that can explain lag, but how did he get me with no gun solution on my film at any time with this shot? :huh

 :noid


i thought you said you understood it... it doesn't matter what your film shows.. you'd need HIS film to see what he saw.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 26, 2012, 11:52:44 AM

i thought you said you understood it... it doesn't matter what your film shows.. you'd need HIS film to see what he saw.


Lag to me means delay... Which means he has guns on me but I don't get hit till later due the lag/delay.   I don't understand how lag results in shots from someone that did not have a gun solution on my computer/film.  I understand on his film all makes sense, but shouldn't I at least see a gun solution at some point on my film? :headscratch:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: kvuo75 on August 26, 2012, 11:56:58 AM
Lag to me means delay... Which means he has guns on me but I don't get hit till later due the lag/delay.   I don't understand how lag results in shots from someone that did not have a gun solution on my computer/film.  I understand on his film all makes sense, but shouldn't I at least see a gun solution at some point on my film? :headscratch:

no, because film is not that precise. especially looking from other planes.  this is why i brought up collisions earlier. its the same thing.  each guy is in 2 places at once.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 26, 2012, 12:06:17 PM
no, because film is not that precise. especially looking from other planes.  this is why i brought up collisions earlier. its the same thing.  each guy is in 2 places at once.

True, collisions are a good example.  Didn't think about it that way.

Severe lag should not be allowed. :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Tracerfi on August 26, 2012, 12:07:57 PM
Severe lag should not be allowed. :old:


I wish it could be fixed but it cant soorry Midy
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 26, 2012, 12:09:57 PM


I wish it could be fixed but it cant soorry Midy

Any and all claims of pwnage by Bedrull while severely lagging are... well... um... nuff said. :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 26, 2012, 01:24:10 PM
No need to splain suckage middy, indeed
Too much toe curling pwnage for you to handle huh?
Consider your ways, indeed
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: uptown on August 26, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
I was killed alot today by RedBull, Joach1m, StabOps, Alphamega, .............yes that's it. LAG! Lag did it to me!!!!! Stupid lag  :furious
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 26, 2012, 05:39:17 PM
I was killed alot today by RedBull, Joach1m, StabOps, Alphamega, .............yes that's it. LAG! Lag did it to me!!!!! Stupid lag  :furious
:rofl Nice pony flying Up, big  :salute For not running at any time!
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 29, 2012, 05:06:20 PM
Here you go, Redbull.   The film you wanted.  Enjoy the viewing... be sure to bring popcorn. :)

http://www.4shared.com/file/ixqIk0kO/Redbull_109.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/ixqIk0kO/Redbull_109.html)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 29, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
I enjoyed the viewing, but what happened again in the next fight middy?  :D

http://www.mediafire.com/?2mvo1ikkot5kvy7    -   my K4 vs your Spit8 again

And for good measure, pwnage in your own plane

http://www.mediafire.com/?juqbu888b1uuui7   -   Spit8 vs Spit8

I have nearly 45 kills on your Spit8 this tour in various aircraft, you have 3 on me. Tell you anything? Troll = Denied sir  :cheers:

 :salute
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 29, 2012, 06:41:40 PM
I was killed alot today by RedBull, Joach1m, StabOps, Alphamega, .............yes that's it. LAG! Lag did it to me!!!!! Stupid lag  :furious
LOL!!!, as always good fights brotha  :cheers: I second Redbull, you didnt run at all, good fun!  :banana:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 29, 2012, 06:43:11 PM
I heard Redbull can lend me a lag switch though?  :noid                       :bolt:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 29, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
I enjoyed the viewing, but what happened again in the next fight middy?  :D

http://www.mediafire.com/?2mvo1ikkot5kvy7    -   my K4 vs your Spit8 again

And for good measure, pwnage in your own plane

http://www.mediafire.com/?juqbu888b1uuui7   -   Spit8 vs Spit8

I have nearly 45 kills on your Spit8 this tour in various aircraft, you have 3 on me. Tell you anything? Troll = Denied sir  :cheers:

 :salute


You asked for the film, I posted it.  I didn't ask you for any, yet you post some out of your archive.  :lol    We both know the next fight was a lag induced mess. :huh    I posted that film early on in this thread. :rolleyes:

And if you recall I also have a fine pwnage of your Spit8 vs my Spit8... so what? :rolleyes:

Bottomline... your 109 dead to my Spit8, as I said, and as you requested, film posted. :D

Nuff said.   Nuff said indeed. :aok
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 29, 2012, 06:46:42 PM
I heard Redbull can lend me a lag switch though?  :noid                       :bolt:
(http://lagswitch.webs.com/lagswitch2.jpg)
that'll be 50 perks please, thank you
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 29, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
Ohhh my  :eek:!! 50 perks are in the mail and on their way!  :banana:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on August 29, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Guess we should get midquatangwho one to  :ahand
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 29, 2012, 06:50:02 PM

You asked for the film, I posted it.  I didn't ask you for any, yet you post some out of your archive.  :lol    We both know the next fight was a lag induced mess. :huh    I posted that film early on in this thread. :rolleyes:

And if you recall I also have a fine pwnage of your Spit8 vs my Spit8... so what? :rolleyes:

Bottomline... your 109 dead to my Spit8, as I said, and as you requested, film posted. :D

Nuff said.   Nuff said indeed. :aok
You're getting desperate middy, I see you breaking a sweat! You can't handle The RedBull! The RedBull pwns all, The RedBull simply feels pity on you and let you have 3 whole kills this tour, do not challenge The RedBull or more pwnage will be applied, nuff said. nuff said indeed.


 :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Stang on August 29, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
Does it really take 5 pages to whine about Netflix?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 29, 2012, 07:25:21 PM
Does it really take 5 pages to whine about Netflix?

midway needs at least 10 pages in order to feel validated that he received enough attention.

ack-ack
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Pawz on August 29, 2012, 08:31:45 PM
I will add another lag whiner to my list



1. SunBat
2. NathBDP
3. Who
4.                 Will you be the next one?

 :lol
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: uptown on August 29, 2012, 08:33:52 PM
Hiya Pawz!!  :salute
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 30, 2012, 12:09:01 AM
Yo Pawz!

Btw the only difference between the insane and genius, the genius knows his boarders.
Someone forgot where the boarders are. And thats not RedBull.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: pervert on August 30, 2012, 12:21:56 AM
Midway is a genius he makes people dance  :banana:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Rob52240 on August 30, 2012, 09:41:37 AM
Midway is a genius he makes people dance  :banana:

He's smarter than most.  One day he asked me for suggestions on computers after I told him that my rig (4 years old at the time) ran full graphics at 60 frames at all times. 
I told him CyberpowerPC.com.
Few weeks later he said he got one too.  Mine is now pushing 6 years old and still runs 60fps on full graphics unless ghi is posting bomber missions.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 30, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
He's smarter than most.  One day he asked me for suggestions on computers after I told him that my rig (4 years old at the time) ran full graphics at 60 frames at all times. 
I told him CyberpowerPC.com.
Few weeks later he said he got one too.  Mine is now pushing 6 years old and still runs 60fps on full graphics unless ghi is posting bomber missions.

 :aok :banana:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Rob52240 on August 30, 2012, 11:19:35 AM
How's that rig running Midway?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 30, 2012, 11:34:27 AM
How's that rig running Midway?

All good. :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Tilt on August 30, 2012, 11:36:08 AM
lag effect is doubled when planes are converging..........OK they were  not in pure convergence but the net effect was convergence.

If you imagine you were both towing targets then the length of rope to the target is directly proportional to the total lag between your FE's. You can only see his target and your plane...he can only see your target and his plane.

In the view from his cockpit in your film imagine he is twenty meteres closer to your plane (thru his turn) and looking at a target twenty meteres behind you. He has lead guns on you.

Then he fires and bullets travel and get hits your wing. His FE then has to communicate via the server (to your FE) the hits on your wing...(HTC also has some checking coad here buts its  infinitesimal re delay) your FE then takes the hit damage and calculates the damage result this all adds some more lag before you hear the rounds hitting you and the wing falls off some distance (on your FE) after you separated.

The faster both AC are travelling  and the longer the apparent range of the snap shot the worse the effect gets..........but then you know all this.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 30, 2012, 11:47:20 AM
lag effect is doubled when planes are converging..........OK they were  not in pure convergence but the net effect was convergence.

If you imagine you were both towing targets then the length of rope to the target is directly proportional to the total lag between your FE's. You can only see his target and your plane...he can only see your target and his plane.

In the view from his cockpit in your film imagine he is twenty meteres closer to your plane (thru his turn) and looking at a target twenty meteres behind you. He has lead guns on you.

Then he fires and bullets travel and get hits your wing. His FE then has to communicate via the server (to your FE) the hits on your wing...(HTC also has some checking coad here buts its  infinitesimal re delay) your FE then takes the hit damage and calculates the damage result this all adds some more lag before you hear the rounds hitting you and the wing falls off some distance (on your FE) after you separated.

The faster both AC are travelling  and the longer the apparent range of the snap shot the worse the effect gets..........but then you know all this.


I do know all that... but Bedrull's lag is extreme. I've watched many films and rarely see that kind lag... and his is like that often... He says his family watches a lot of netflix... so likely a reason.   He wanted to see what I was talking about... ergo my post.  This picture shows how bad it is:

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh561/AH_Midway/REdbull_lag3.png)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Scca on August 30, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
RedBull's K4 pwned Middy's Spit8 in a turnfight, huh?
The spit8 turns around in 15.2 seconds, the K4 needs 19.3 to do the same. No comment.
<opening two weissbeers>  Cheers RedBull   :cheers:

At what speed?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 30, 2012, 12:16:43 PM
At stall speeds.
In the instanteous turn rate, the spits advantage is even bigger (between the slowest blackout and the stall speed of course).

Wait a sec, what was your goal with that post?  :huh
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: tunnelrat on August 30, 2012, 12:30:18 PM
If this wasn't a cry for attention, it'd have been a PM.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Reaper90 on August 30, 2012, 01:47:01 PM
The faster both AC are travelling  and the longer the apparent range of the snap shot the worse the effect gets..........but then you know all this.


Based on the fact that he's still posting screen grabs of his own film as evidence, I'd say "no, he still doesn't understand how it works."
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Tilt on August 31, 2012, 09:06:34 AM
I do know all that... but Bedrull's lag is extreme. I've watched many films and rarely see that kind lag... and his is like that often... He says his family watches a lot of netflix... so likely a reason.   He wanted to see what I was talking about... ergo my post.  This picture shows how bad it is:


The picture shows you both at 150 MPH with 70 yards separation. If we assume you were both travelling down a side of an equilateral triangle and this picture shows the very instance your FE took redbulls hit then the combined lag is about .98 of a sec. But it won't be the very instance because your wing is falling away.

if your wing took the hit only .49 sec earlier (35 yards@ 150mph) then the combined lag is halved to .49 of a sec if yours like mine is about .15 -.17 then redbull would be at .34-.32 secs.

At what lag would UDP be lost?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 09:12:55 AM
The picture shows you both at 150 MPH with 70 yards separation. If we assume you were both travelling down a side of an equilateral triangle and this picture shows the very instance your FE took redbulls hit then the combined lag is about .98 of a sec. But it won't be the very instance because your wing is falling away.

if your wing took the hit only .49 sec earlier (35 yards@ 150mph) then the combined lag is halved to .49 of a sec if yours like mine is about .15 -.17 then redbull would be at .34-.32 secs.

At what lag would UDP be lost?

I posted the film so you can see specifics if you want.  Nice analysis. :aok

Point is his lag is severe relative to almost anyone else I fight.  I really notice it and it's very frustrating.  I have lots of films of other people and when they shoot me, it looks correct.  I think Netflix is the cause and I think he does to.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on August 31, 2012, 09:16:34 AM
Do you know what to do?
Download some porn when middy is close by, he will whine for a week and create wild conspiration theories.
lol
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 31, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
 :lol
Im sorry would you like to come to my house and tell my family to get off netflix? Unless you would like to, nothing I can do about this, not going to stop flying because of a half second of lag. If anything it affects ME worse than anyone else, Ill post a film of how lag affects me sometime, it's odd. Anyway I do apologize for this but again, not much I can do right now, besides enjoy the whines and annoy midway with it!

 :salute
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
:lol
Im sorry would you like to come to my house and tell my family to get off netflix? Unless you would like to, nothing I can do about this, not going to stop flying because of a half second of lag. If anything it affects ME worse than anyone else, Ill post a film of how lag affects me sometime, it's odd. Anyway I do apologize for this but again, not much I can do right now, besides enjoy the whines and annoy midway with it!

 :salute

Um... Nope.  I'll just continue to question any said victories of yours over me.   :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 31, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Um... Nope.  I'll just continue to question any said victories of yours over me.   :)
Please do, as we both know there have been many 1v1's even when not lagging where you've died quite easily, even with the advantage, TBH it was a milestone when I first beat you on a consistant basis almost easily a few weeks ago, I remember about 5 or so months ago you actually could beat me easily in spits in the DA, I was like  :o , it feels good when you start beating those who used to whoop you, you're not the only one lately either  :O  :noid
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
Please do, as we both know there have been many 1v1's even when not lagging where you've died quite easily, even with the advantage, TBH it was a milestone when I first beat you on a consistant basis almost easily a few weeks ago, I remember about 5 or so months ago you actually could beat me easily in spits in the DA, I was like  :o , it feels good when you start beating those who used to whoop you, you're not the only one lately either  :O  :noid

You are almost always lagging now... You weren't 5 months ago.   Hmmm :headscratch:

Nuff said.  Nuff said indeed. :)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 31, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
Like I said, we both know there's been many, many fair 1v1's where you've gotten whooped even without lag, anyway I've fed the troll enough, 
:salute gents,

thanks for the

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MxvIJJqRSYE/Tjr4pT2TJAI/AAAAAAAAAFw/a-S9-iGBYxM/s1600/Look-at-Me.jpg)

Thread
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Like I said, we both know there's been many, many fair 1v1's where you've gotten whooped even without lag, anyway I've fed the troll enough,  
:salute gents,

thanks for the

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MxvIJJqRSYE/Tjr4pT2TJAI/AAAAAAAAAFw/a-S9-iGBYxM/s1600/Look-at-Me.jpg)

Thread

Think I told you almost every time you were lagging.  Ergo you wanted me to post this so you could see it.  I finally recorded it for you cause you kept asking every time I said it.  A fair fight would have us with similar lag.  Only recall one or two like that recently.  Shooting me down without me seeing guns on me is like a collision that I never saw.  Five months ago I never saw lag like that... so something changed. :headscratch:

Beware the severe lag of Netflix or whatever else is causing it. :old:

Now, more than nuff said.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Butcher on August 31, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
Midway, take Redbull in the DA so he can whip your bellybutton and we can be done with this. or Shut up - which even with a year subscription you couldn't do for 30 days.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 12:56:49 PM
Midway, take Redbull in the DA so he can whip your bellybutton and we can be done with this. or Shut up - which even with a year subscription you couldn't do for 30 days.


Must you continue <cough lag cough> this convo, Butcher? :huh

More than nuff's already been said. :old:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Nathan60 on August 31, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
Must you continue <cough lag cough> this convo, Butcher? :huh

More than nuff's already been said. :old:
whats a nuff?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: pervert on August 31, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on August 31, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
:rofl

 :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: crazyivan on August 31, 2012, 03:36:23 PM
whats a nuff?
Two years straight of 400hr tours in a spitfire. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)Is apparently not enough/nuff for the plantiff in this case. Perhaps both players originating from said vSquad, and at one time being equal in cartoon skill.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport030.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)Could be a contributing factor as to these accusations of lag/Ch***ing--eek! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
To the defendant Redbull, most can relate to having annoying siblings,and netflix isn't bad imho. I'm sure most ingame experience lag from time to time. I have seen your said lag, and is/was nowhere in the realm of Joeblack, warpage. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate003.gif) (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)
 
Redbull ,I congradulate your constant pwnage of the plantiff, and getting his/her Canadian figure skater, esque whine/troll for a gold medal.(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sw017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) I'm sure Middy's chronies will be along shortly to validate him/her soon. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love072.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Edit: emos

Rock on (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool11.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

~Crazy~



Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: RedBull1 on August 31, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
Two years straight of 400hr tours in a spitfire. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)Is apparently not enough/nuff for the plantiff in this case. Perhaps both players originating from said vSquad, and at one time being equal in cartoon skill. :banana: Could be a contributing factor as to these accusations of lag/Ch***ing--eek! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

To the defendant Redbull, most can relate to having annoying siblings,and netflix isn't bad imho. I'm sure most ingame experience lag from time to time. I have seen your said lag, and is/was nowhere in the realm of Joeblack, warpage. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate003.gif) (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)
 Redbull ,I congradulate your constant pwnage of the plantiff, and getting his/her Canadian figure skater, esque whine/troll for a gold medal. I'm sure Middy's chronies will be along shortly to validate him/her soon. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love072.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Edit: emos

Rock on (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool11.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

~Crazy~




:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on September 01, 2012, 01:33:24 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on September 01, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
midway needs at least 10 pages in order to feel validated that he received enough attention.

ack-ack

Only 8 so far. :frown:    


Carry on. :D
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: TwinBoom on September 01, 2012, 08:52:23 AM
Who "Be the water my friend"
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on September 01, 2012, 09:34:53 AM
Who "Be the water my friend"

(http://cdnbakmi.kaltura.com/p/695492/sp/69549200/thumbnail/entry_id/1_ojlvaoww/width/800/height/500)

 ;)
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Butcher on September 01, 2012, 10:18:39 AM
Two years straight of 400hr tours in a spitfire.

Spitfire Mk VIII   1445   62   73   1559

LOL still not even 1 k/d in a spitfire, should of been learning instead of stinking up the forums and 200 for 2 years.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: cattb on September 01, 2012, 12:18:08 PM
Two years straight of 400hr tours in a spitfire. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)Is apparently not enough/nuff for the plantiff in this case. Perhaps both players originating from said vSquad, and at one time being equal in cartoon skill.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport030.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)Could be a contributing factor as to these accusations of lag/Ch***ing--eek! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
To the defendant Redbull, most can relate to having annoying siblings,and netflix isn't bad imho. I'm sure most ingame experience lag from time to time. I have seen your said lag, and is/was nowhere in the realm of Joeblack, warpage. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate003.gif) (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)
 
Redbull ,I congradulate your constant pwnage of the plantiff, and getting his/her Canadian figure skater, esque whine/troll for a gold medal.(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sw017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) I'm sure Middy's chronies will be along shortly to validate him/her soon. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love072.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Edit: emos

Rock on (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool11.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

~Crazy~




:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on September 02, 2012, 01:14:36 AM
Spitfire Mk VIII   1445   62   73   1559

LOL still not even 1 k/d in a spitfire, should of been learning instead of stinking up the forums and 200 for 2 years.
Beware, Butcher, its the bestest Spitfire ace in game, he pwns us alllll  :lol
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Butcher on September 02, 2012, 02:04:43 AM
Beware, Butcher, its the bestest Spitfire ace in game, he pwns us alllll  :lol

Hows school going for ya? ready to dust off your G6?
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Debrody on September 02, 2012, 02:36:40 AM
Yessir, i will try to make it back today.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: madhogg on September 10, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
Hax I say!! Hax!!  :noid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bnn_V2ws88&feature=youtu.be

WTF??  how did he get out the way of your bullet stream??  Looks very ... Haxy?? I guess some guys have the time to rewrite and modify.. People here fear to speak about cheats but not me because AH2 can not be hack..there are no cheats in this game, if you try to hack game you get a window warning, that should stop any. Lol. If you cheat you are pathetic, no challenge, nO fun.
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Nathan60 on September 10, 2012, 03:13:14 PM
WTF??  how did he get out the way of your bullet stream??  Looks very ... Haxy?? I guess some guys have the time to rewrite and modify.. People here fear to speak about cheats but not me because AH2 can not be hack..there are no cheats in this game, if you try to hack game you get a window warning, that should stop any. Lol. If you cheat you are pathetic, no challenge, nO fun.

So can you or can you not hack? I say we ask Kappa or kazza or whoever the hell changes the wieght of thier plane
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Masherbrum on September 10, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
:eek:

It's dangerous to antagonize Sunbat you know.  Just ask Rud3boi or JoeBlack.

"Swishblade".   
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: tunnelrat on September 12, 2012, 02:22:40 PM
Wait, why are you Midway on the forum and "who" in the game?

That seems silly.

Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Butcher on September 12, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
So can you or can you not hack? I say we ask Kappa or kazza or whoever the hell changes the wieght of thier plane

+1 Kappa/Kazza you both entered the hall of fame
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: Midway on September 12, 2012, 02:58:25 PM
Wait, why are you Midway on the forum and "who" in the game?

That seems silly.



 :cry
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: tunnelrat on September 13, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
:cry

 :x :cheers:
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: coombz on September 13, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
So can you or can you not hack? I say we ask Kappa or kazza or whoever the hell changes the wieght of thier plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awqPvL1Fs14
Title: Re: For Redbull, eyes only, lag...
Post by: LCADolby on September 14, 2012, 02:46:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awqPvL1Fs14
lol i love that film, those idiots complaining dont even realise how good that Spit8 is at climbing and turning and accelerating...  :lol