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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: hawkeyeluke13 on September 10, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
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I was fighting in a furball, and our carrier planes were being owned by P51Ds, LAs, 109s, just give the carrier pilots an equalizer. I mean , to get BnZed as soon as you take off beacouse your f4u1a because it cant stay up with the p51ds is horrible. Just saying.
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No.
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No.
Hell no.
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awww, all the pony pilots going to cry now cause they might acutally have to fight.
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You have much to learn yet.
Oh, almost forgot: Just saying.
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Tell me how a F4U1A on the deck , geting pounced on by LAs, 1Ds , 109s, 190s, , p47s
I mean, if thats the case, how bout we perk the P51D , LA7, P47 n, etc
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I realize this may be difficult to grasp but, you could climb away from the fight, or spiral climb over your CV ack...
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Is this another "wish" that came about as a result of an arse whuppin'?
ack-ack
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You have no equalizer? What about the scourge of AI puffy ack blanketing the airfield your carrier is docked at?
The ones doing the BnZing are the 10k Corsairs because the enemy can't go over 3K without getting ganged by puffy. :rolleyes:
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The fight I was in , the enemy was to far out to use AA , it was moslty our spits, and 1as at low alt, and we had a few 51ds and 109s over our carrier group, they werent getting hit.
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Unperk the single best piston engined fighter in the game? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No.
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Hawkeye, instead of taking up something that flies like a brick when low and slow (even if you use the flaps), take up something more nimble, grab as much alt as you can before being engaged, and sucker em into your fight, reduce their E advantage, and keep em turning n burning, you can eventually get clear of them to gain alt to engage more.
Wurz
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you mean fly the Spit , never off a carrier. , espicaly a spit II
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you mean fly the Spit , never off a carrier. , espicaly a spit II
The seafire is a nice plane as well as the zero. Both are more than capable to clear the space over the cv. Once clear, THEN you up your hogs.
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:huh Unperking the F4U-4 would be ridiculous.
You have no equalizer? What about the scourge of AI puffy ack blanketing the airfield your carrier is docked at?
The ones doing the BnZing are the 10k Corsairs because the enemy can't go over 3K without getting ganged by puffy. :rolleyes:
Caldera was talking about the AA on the CV Task Group.
The fight I was in , the enemy was to far out to use AA , it was moslty our spits, and 1as at low alt, and we had a few 51ds and 109s over our carrier group, they werent getting hit.
And if you are saying that they were too far out for the ship's AA, then I'm not sure what your complaint is.
you mean fly the Spit , never off a carrier. , espicaly a spit II
I'm not sure where your going with this one.
awww, all the pony pilots going to cry now cause they might acutally have to fight.
:rofl Redbull...you a crying Pony pilot now? :rofl
Any way it goes....-10000 to unperking the F4U-4.
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Your calling us.... TOP GUN pilots..... 109 and Spitfire dweebs.... who have crappy scores because we fight hordes.... Pony runtards....
:bhead
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to get BnZed as soon as you take off beacouse your f4u1a because it cant stay up with the p51ds is horrible. Just saying.
You chose to launch from there. You did not choose to launch from a neighboring sector/field and utilize the patience needed to use the F4U-4's particular combat strengths (speed at altitude, boom & zoom capability, etc...) to your advantage. The F4U-4 is an absolute powerhouse and needs to remain perked.
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you mean fly the Spit , never off a carrier. , espicaly a spit II
Never said anything about the spit - you can use the Zero, FM2, seafire (now I said the spit), any other plane that takes your fancy. Just an option is all.
Wurz
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The perk hog is a death trap for me. I fly it wrong. It is a beast. In the right hands, the best prop plane we have. Hizookas on the Temps and in good hand there, oh, a toss up? Maybe. Different birds. Either Temp or Dash-4. Both beasts with the right stick in seat. Sadly, I am neither. I applaud all who excel in either.
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Hey unperk the 262 - I keep compressing it when I try to vulch at 800mph
:x :x :x
:bolt:
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I was fighting in a furball, and our carrier planes were being owned by P51Ds, LAs, 109s, just give the carrier pilots an equalizer. I mean , to get BnZed as soon as you take off beacouse your f4u1a because it cant stay up with the p51ds is horrible. Just saying.
After a year and flying 20 sorties on your 2 week free trial, you just haven't figured out you don't get to finish the game that easy and beat it in a day?
/I am shocked a shade who tries to troll so hard - but some of his previous comments clearly don't show him to be a 13 yr old newbie like he wants us to believe.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
the f4u-4 is the best prop plane in the game... bar-none!
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:rolleyes:
No.
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:rofl Redbull...you a crying Pony pilot now? :rofl
My secrets been revealed :old:
I am the UncleTip/SILENCE of Pony Pilots :old:
Damn detectives :old:
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The fair fight is called MVP/MLB or in other words - baseball. I dont think you are ready for football yet.
Aces High... you are at least a year out before your whines will even register.
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I mean, if thats the case, how bout we perk the P51D , LA7, P47 n, etc
You got my vote on that one.
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Everytime I take a -4 or a -1C out, 50% of the time the main fuel tank takes a hit and I have to ditch, 40% of the time I get shot down, and 10% of the time I will land with kills. I've been flying around 7 years now.
The -4 and -1C's most vulnerable point seems to be the single internal tank in my opinion. I think for that reason alone it should not be perked as-is. Carrying an aux. fuel tank on either plane brings down the performance closer to or below that of a jug.
There may be a reason why the F4U's have famously been referred to as "hogs."
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Flying the -4 feels like god mode for me.
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I agree, we need to unperk the F4U-4. It is very inferior to planes that are above me when I'm taking off of a capped field or CV. Might as well unperk the 262, too. There's no way that plane can have any chance of survival with 190s and P51s above the base.
+1 to unperking the F4U-4 and Me-262
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:lol
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awww, all the pony pilots going to cry now cause they might acutally have to fight.
Name the place and time, you're gonna get (ridiculously) schooled by a F4U1a while in a pony by this community. :rofl :lol
I agree, we need to unperk the F4U-4. It is very inferior to planes that are above me when I'm taking off of a capped field or CV. Might as well unperk the 262, too. There's no way that plane can have any chance of survival with 190s and P51s above the base.
+1 to unperking the F4U-4 and Me-262
9/10, you forgot the Spit XIV :aok
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Speed is the name of the game when you're flying the F4U-4 or any Corsair for that matter. The -4 easily can outrun a P-51D on the deck.
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This request is beyond ridiculous. You are outside your mind.
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The -4 easily can outrun a P-51D on the deck.
The -4 can easily out everything the P-51D on the deck.
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The -4 can easily out everything the P-51D on the deck.
I fly the -4 a decent amount. I do have trouble outrunning LA7s here and there, but if I stay high they normally aren't a bother.
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QFT, its way more important to perk the KI-84 as last time I was on one kept bouncing my 262 as I was taking off from a runway, hed let me get about 1k from the AA and dive in on me before I could get to speed. If only we had moible dar to replace the field dar so would have know there was a ne close by, I saw darbar but not a little red dot so I didnt now how clos ehe was and fighure di could up a 262 with a horde near.
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QFT, its way more important to perk the KI-84 as last time I was on one kept bouncing my 262 as I was taking off from a runway, hed let me get about 1k from the AA and dive in on me before I could get to speed. If only we had moible dar to replace the field dar so would have know there was a ne close by, I saw darbar but not a little red dot so I didnt now how clos ehe was and fighure di could up a 262 with a horde near.
f5 + f8 in the tower works wonders.
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f5 + f8 in the tower works wonders.
those outside virew should be disabled its cheating. Fact remains no way a ki-84 sould catch a 262
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QFT, its way more important to perk the KI-84 as last time I was on one kept bouncing my 262 as I was taking off from a runway, hed let me get about 1k from the AA and dive in on me before I could get to speed. If only we had moible dar to replace the field dar so would have know there was a ne close by, I saw darbar but not a little red dot so I didnt now how clos ehe was and fighure di could up a 262 with a horde near.
Ki-84 can do up to about 480 m.p.h in a dive in experienced hands.
The F4U-4 is unperked at the furball lake in the DA.
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those outside virew should be disabled its cheating. Fact remains no way a ki-84 sould catch a 262
what.. someone wouldn't be able to look out the windows of the tower and get a 360 view?
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Flying the -4 feels like god mode for me.
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Heck yea it does.
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Some one always has to turn the CV when I have 2 minutes of fuel left... :noid
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those outside virew should be disabled its cheating. Fact remains no way a ki-84 sould catch a 262
Speed is speed. There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable. An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.
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Speed is speed. There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable. An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.
Make a turn. I fly 262s near the deck all the time. People dive in from 10K and they get so fixated that they either auger or is unable to make even a slight turn without blacking out. IMO, if you're going over 450mph in a 262, nothing will ever kill you save another 262. Keep a 1000ft buffer zone between you and the ground, use it if you get bounced, 1000ft dive easily turns a 400mph 262 into a 550mph one.
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Speed is speed. There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable. An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.
Below 5k there is very little that can ever catch a 262, being the air is much heavier - piston engines slow down faster if he's doing 400 he will be fine - you have an extremely SMALL window to start diving and pop 200 behind a 262, thus being said
I've been bounced 50 times, never once got a single ping on me, from planes above 5-10k, it all comes down to the pilot and how he flies it.
Most note worthy was Hoagi who dove on me from 10k to 2k in a F4u-4 which I simply pulled up into a climb when he was 800 behind me, waited till he started stalling and I winged over to kill him.
I'm not saying a 262 cannot be killed, I was fortunate to kill one the other night in a Yak-9u - I happen to timed the dive correctly, and the player was making a small 180 turn in which he got below 350 and I nailed him.
Mistakes will happen, not everyones an ace in a 262.
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Killed a 262 on my first visit to Finland - in a Spit V - and yes, I admit it, I ho'd the snot out of him ;) :D
Wurz
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IMO, if you're going over 450mph in a 262, nothing will ever kill you save another 262.
A 163 will.
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The Me262 in the whine I was responding to had apparently just taken off and was less than two miles from the base when the Ki-84 dove on it and killed it. It was definitely not going 550mph. Probably not even 300mph.
And for what its worth, at 400mph there are a lot of piston engined fighters that can hang with you for way more time than is needed to kill you so long as they had altitude to convert to speed.
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I don't know when and when not a 262 can be killed.
All I know is that at all times they should be killed.
Lousy cherry pickers the lot of them. I dont like the game style that they bring whenever they show up to a good furball.
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Everytime I take a -4 or a -1C out, 50% of the time the main fuel tank takes a hit and I have to ditch, 40% of the time I get shot down, and 10% of the time I will land with kills. I've been flying around 7 years now.
The -4 and -1C's most vulnerable point seems to be the single internal tank in my opinion. I think for that reason alone it should not be perked as-is. Carrying an aux. fuel tank on either plane brings down the performance closer to or below that of a jug.
There may be a reason why the F4U's have famously been referred to as "hogs."
Flying the -4 feels like god mode for me.
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Heck yea it does.
:huh
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A 163 will.
Anyone who brings a 262 to a strat/HQ is bat poop insane.
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Anyone who brings a 262 to a strat/HQ is bat poop insane.
Then again long as i've played I only seen one 262 at a HQ in years.
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what.. someone wouldn't be able to look out the windows of the tower and get a 360 view?
You werent asking to look at the windows f5+f8 is external of the tower.
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Speed is speed. There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable. An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.
so it should be perked for that reason? Can catch a 262 off the runway and is That maneuverable.
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so it should be perked for that reason? Can catch a 262 off the runway and is That maneuverable.
F4u-4 posts some of the best stats in the game, it has very few weaknesses.
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The Me262 in the whine I was responding to had apparently just taken off and was less than two miles from the base when the Ki-84 dove on it and killed it. It was definitely not going 550mph. Probably not even 300mph.
And for what its worth, at 400mph there are a lot of piston engined fighters that can hang with you for way more time than is needed to kill you so long as they had altitude to convert to speed.
Whine? Dont be a dick Karnak your alwas whineing good sir.
How do you like that when fishing for an INK and got a Karnak.
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I got a nice shot and kill on a 262 once last year. I was in a zero. Got word on range of a 262 on the deck just inside dar heading to our field. I got visual from a distance and turned at a right angle lead. I fired out in front of the 262 flight path and got a direct cockpit hit and instant kill. Surprised me as well as the 262 driver because he was pming me asking what I was in.
Muttman
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Your calling us.... TOP GUN pilots..... 109 and Spitfire dweebs.... who have crappy scores because we fight hordes.... Pony runtards....
:bhead
Plawranc, yes, yes I am, what yooo gonna doo about it????? :D :D :D
Wurz
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Plawranc, yes, yes I am, what yooo gonna doo about it????? :D :D :D
Wurz
Beaufighter sucks! :bolt:
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Spoken like a true Luftwaffler - Morning Butcher :D :D :D
It was just there man, I had to do it :D :D
Wurz (yer still all dweebs btw)
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Ki-84 can do up to about 480 m.p.h in a dive in experienced hands.
The F4U-4 is unperked at the furball lake in the DA.
I have been flying the KI4 for a few weeks and I have regularly exceeded 500mph.
Now I just have to learn how to keep the wings on :frown:
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Tell me how a F4U1A on the deck , geting pounced on by LAs, 1Ds , 109s, 190s, , p47s
I mean, if thats the case, how bout we perk the P51D , LA7, P47 n, etc
i know many 1A pilots that would take down the lala 51 and 47 before dieing to the etc :)
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. :headscratch:
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I have been flying the KI4 for a few weeks and I have regularly exceeded 500mph.
Now I just have to learn how to keep the wings on :frown:
I learned to fly the P-38 from flying the Ki-84 quite a bit, basically the P-38 at alt from 24-28k has a very NARROW window to compress, I mean you literally can fly 400mph and compress doing 425.
Ki-84 I keep around 480 then crab it in, shallow dive until I max my speed around until I get to lower alt.
84 is quite easy to learn once you dealt with the problems the 38 has in compression a few times.
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I have been flying the KI4 for a few weeks and I have regularly exceeded 500mph.
Now I just have to learn how to keep the wings on :frown:
Don't believe I've ever lost a wing. Can you teach me? :)
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unperk the U4 and plane variety will go lower then it is now. . .
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Ok fine, lets keep the F4U-4 perked, but Perk the P51D and the LA7,
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Ok fine, lets keep the F4U-4 perked, but Perk the P51D and the LA7,
Out of all the kills the P51 has this month, 2.5% of them are F4U-1As
Out of all the kills the F4U-1A has this month 6.7% of them are P51s.
Maybe the hog should be perked being almost 3 times as good as the pony
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Out of all the kills the P51 has this month, 2.5% of them are F4U-1As
Out of all the kills the F4U-1A has this month 6.7% of them are P51s.
Maybe the hog should be perked being almost 3 times as good as the pony
How many noobs flies -1As compared to a -51D?
I say perk the ordnance, not the plane. Want 3 guns on a La-7? Pay the perks. Want 2x 1000lb and rockets on a 51D? Pay the perk.
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Anyone who brings a 262 to a strat/HQ is bat poop insane.
They don't have to. I've flown a 163 2-3 sectors to get into a fight then been able to RTB to the 163 base. One day I flew two sectors out, chased a 262 two more sectors out and still RTB'd but to a different base two sectors behind me.
I've done the 163/262 fight a few times this way, no where near HQ.
Anyway, I was just saying, a 163 will beat a 262.
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Don't believe I've ever lost a wing. Can you teach me? :)
I have a few sorties in the 84, I never lost a wing ether :headscratch:
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Ink is a noob in the Hayate :old:
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ailerons yes wings no
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Don't believe I've ever lost a wing. Can you teach me? :)
of course, from 10k dive on unsuspecting baddie, kick rudder about to try and slow down, then realise you have misjudged, as soon as you are into thicker air rorke the stick back and this activates the wing detachment feature for easy storage :joystick:
I also want bigger elevators although I think more elevator authority may exacerbate first problem :old:
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I'll have to try that. I'd never lost a wing on a Spitfire either though until Yarbles taught me how to do it :banana:
With the Ki-84 I lose sets of control surfaces randomly at VnE, a feature which I've never understood, for which there is no historical merit and apparently unique to the Hayate. The reduction of control authority at speed is historically accurate however. Maybe we need to look at your stick settings Danny, also diving down isn't its forte, fly a bit lower and fight upwards :old:
Some of the best fights I've had in Aces High were against Fudmukkr's 4hog in the DA, me in a Ki-84 :banana:
P.S. Ink's no noob, I was only joking :rofl
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I'll have to try that. I'd never lost a wing on a Spitfire either though until Yarbles taught me how to do it :banana:
With the Ki-84 I lose sets of control surfaces randomly at VnE, a feature which I've never understood, for which there is no historical merit and apparently unique to the Hayate. The reduction of control authority at speed is historically accurate however. Maybe we need to look at your stick settings Danny, also diving down isn't its forte, fly a bit lower and fight upwards :old:
Some of the best fights I've had in Aces High were against Fudmukkr's 4hog in the DA, me in a Ki-84 :banana:
P.S. Ink's no noob, I was only joking :rofl
I don't reserve my inate ability to divest airyoplanes of bits. I am expecting an angry PM from the descendants of Sir Sidney Camm for my repeated and wanton removal of Hurricane wings :joystick:
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for which there is no historical merit and apparently unique to the Hayate.
Nah, no unique, the Mosquito Mk VI also gleefully sheds control surfaces at about 480mph. I have also not found a historical reason for it to do so.
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Nah, no unique, the Mosquito Mk VI also gleefully sheds control surfaces at about 480mph. I have also not found a historical reason for it to do so.
The worms freak out, dig themselves out of the wood and bail out, thus weakening the structure.
Even before loosing control surfaces, even a light G load will break the wing. A power-on split-S from typical level speeds can easily bring you into the creaking & cracking wood danger zone.
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I was fighting in a furball, and our carrier planes were being owned by P51Ds, LAs, 109s, just give the carrier pilots an equalizer. I mean , to get BnZed as soon as you take off beacouse your f4u1a because it cant stay up with the p51ds is horrible. Just saying.
Drop flaps and turn with them. dont be afraid to fight them. Sucker em in and take em down
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I just flew the F4u-4 for first time in a very long time, feels great to hop in it again... thus being said I can see why its 25+ perks.... at 10k (While rooks were coming in at 15k) I managed to sucker down a few and furball with em, first being a 47M who didn't have enough E to boom and zoom, I caught him and shot him down..
Second plane a 51 decided 3 attempts to BnZ didn't work out so well, so he tried to turn fight and got shot down.
On my return trip home (fuel) I had a 109K chase after me, I was 6k above him so I simply looped over and got him in a flat turn, big no no on his part but he got shot down.
I simply out flew all 3 aircrafts with basic knowledge of how the plane flew, using my speed and flaps to win the fights, the 109K should of gave me the hardest trouble, but I got him in a spiral climb and with my advantage in alt I managed to make him stall.
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The worms freak out, dig themselves out of the wood and bail out, thus weakening the structure.
:rofl
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Ink is a noob in the Hayate :old:
:rofl
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What does the dash4 have on, at common AH altitudes, the 109K4 or the La7? Ords?
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I'll have to try that. I'd never lost a wing on a Spitfire either though until Yarbles taught me how to do it :banana:
With the Ki-84 I lose sets of control surfaces randomly at VnE, a feature which I've never understood, for which there is no historical merit and apparently unique to the Hayate. The reduction of control authority at speed is historically accurate however. Maybe we need to look at your stick settings Danny, also diving down isn't its forte, fly a bit lower and fight upwards :old:
Some of the best fights I've had in Aces High were against Fudmukkr's 4hog in the DA, me in a Ki-84 :banana:
P.S. Ink's no noob, I was only joking :rofl
;)
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What does the dash4 have on, at common AH altitudes, the 109K4 or the La7? Ords?
Well if we look at the F4u-4, P51-D, 109K and La7:
At 5k:
F4u4, P51, La7 are about even in speed, 109k is a tab slower.
Between 5-15k the F4u Drops off and is actually slower then the rest
at 15-20k the F4u4 starts to shine pulling away from everything.
Speed with wep on: at 15k and above only the 109K is faster rest drop off.
Acceleration the F4u-4 is barely slower getting to 300mph then 109k and La7.
Climb Rate: up to 4k the La7 is better climber, other then that only the 109k is a threat which outclimbs everything else
Max Speed Low alt:
MIL power: F4u does 351, P51 355, 109k 339 and La7 359
WEP: 375, P51 365, 109k 368 and La7 381
Turn radius the F4u beats everything but an La7 in a flat turn, with flaps it can't be beat.
What every other plane has for a weakness, the F4u actually improves on.
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That giant metal sheet behind it (cough, super rudder) can make it do some insane moves. I don't fly the Corsairs a lot (never got used to the torque and I prefer big cannons), but when I flew the -1A, I would regularly drop out of the sky trying to pull a tailslide. With the -4, you have plenty of power and that almost never happens.
I still can't control the torque in all Corsairs (at very low speeds), they either snap stall or spin and I lose control pulling moves I do in a 109. Or just simply drop from the sky (exception being the -4).
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Haha :lol
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And for heavens sake, we desperately need the unperked Me163 on the CV's , that will teach them :banana:
I agree, we need to unperk the F4U-4. It is very inferior to planes that are above me when I'm taking off of a capped field or CV. Might as well unperk the 262, too. There's no way that plane can have any chance of survival with 190s and P51s above the base.
+1 to unperking the F4U-4 and Me-262
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those outside virew should be disabled its cheating. Fact remains no way a ki-84 sould catch a 262
Yeah, because walking outside while on the ground is VERBOTEN! :rolleyes:
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I have been flying the KI4 for a few weeks and I have regularly exceeded 500mph.
Now I just have to learn how to keep the wings on :frown:
When the wings come off you hit ludicrous speed :D
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You are outside your mind.
I like this saying, and will be stealing it now. Thank you very much.
:salute
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Yeah, because walking outside while on the ground is VERBOTEN! :rolleyes:
How are you gonna taxi and aircraft while walking out side?
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How are you gonna taxi and aircraft while walking out side?
very carefully...
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I think perking the NJUG will save many 4hogs :aok
JUGgler
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I think perking the NJUG will save many 4hogs :aok
hehe
All planes should be perked!
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Damn overmodeled spit1's...I say perk them as much as, if not more than 262's! :old:
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Damn overmodeled spit1's...I say perk them as much as, if not more than 262's! :old:
PERK the P39!!!! Its the Bestest plane in teh game EVAH!!
And Jugglers Ju88!!!
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PERK the P39!!!! Its the Bestest plane in teh game EVAH!!
And Jugglers Ju88!!!
Dont get me started on the P40C :old:
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Dont get me started on the P40C :old:
its unstoppabullllllllllll!!!!
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its unstoppabullllllllllll!!!!
IMPOSSIBRU!!!!
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Perk the G6 because its 30mm cannon makes it... what is it, Bunny?
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Perk the G6 because its 30mm cannon makes it... what is it, Bunny?
its not the 30mm cannon, its the phoenix missiles it carries... :aok
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PERK the P39!!!! Its the Bestest plane in teh game EVAH!!
And Jugglers Ju88!!!
Ahh, yes! 1 20mm cannon with 100 rounds and this plane will produce more whiiiiining than the spit16 does!
I wish, I wish!
JUGgler
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I dont fly the corsairs because they have the WORST rear view capability, even trying out trackir setups.
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I dont fly the corsairs because they have the WORST rear view capability, even trying out trackir setups.
:huh
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:huh
He's an alchemist.
Need I say more?
:D
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Your problem was not lack of a "good" plane. Any plane in this game can beat any plane in is game. You just need to fly your chosen plane to its strengths. Not taking off from a capped field or CV could be useful too. ;-)
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A F4U1-A can easily hold it's own with most any plane in Aces High at almost any altitude.