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Offline titanic3

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2012, 10:00:56 PM »
Speed is speed.  There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable.  An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.

Make a turn. I fly 262s near the deck all the time. People dive in from 10K and they get so fixated that they either auger or is unable to make even a slight turn without blacking out. IMO, if you're going over 450mph in a 262, nothing will ever kill you save another 262. Keep a 1000ft buffer zone between you and the ground, use it if you get bounced, 1000ft dive easily turns a 400mph 262 into a 550mph one.

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2012, 10:14:38 PM »
Speed is speed.  There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable.  An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.

Below 5k there is very little that can ever catch a 262, being the air is much heavier - piston engines slow down faster if he's doing 400 he will be fine - you have an extremely SMALL window to start diving and pop 200 behind a 262, thus being said
I've been bounced 50 times, never once got a single ping on me, from planes above 5-10k, it all comes down to the pilot and how he flies it.

Most note worthy was Hoagi who dove on me from 10k to 2k in a F4u-4 which I simply pulled up into a climb when he was 800 behind me, waited till he started stalling and I winged over to kill him.

I'm not saying a 262 cannot be killed, I was fortunate to kill one the other night in a Yak-9u - I happen to timed the dive correctly, and the player was making a small 180 turn in which he got below 350 and I nailed him.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2012, 10:29:29 PM »
Killed a 262 on my first visit to Finland - in a Spit V - and yes, I admit it, I ho'd the snot out of him  ;) :D

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2012, 11:16:53 PM »
IMO, if you're going over 450mph in a 262, nothing will ever kill you save another 262. 

A 163 will.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2012, 12:20:48 AM »
The Me262 in the whine I was responding to had apparently just taken off and was less than two miles from the base when the Ki-84 dove on it and killed it.  It was definitely not going 550mph.  Probably not even 300mph.

And for what its worth, at 400mph there are a lot of piston engined fighters that can hang with you for way more time than is needed to kill you so long as they had altitude to convert to speed.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2012, 03:14:44 AM »
I don't know when and when not a 262 can be killed.
All I know is that at all times they should be killed.

Lousy cherry pickers the lot of them. I dont like the game style that they bring whenever they show up to a good furball.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2012, 05:03:01 AM »
+1

Everytime I take a -4 or a -1C out, 50% of the time the main fuel tank takes a hit and I have to ditch, 40% of the time I get shot down, and 10% of the time I will land with kills. I've been flying around 7 years now.

The -4 and -1C's most vulnerable point seems to be the single internal tank in my opinion. I think for that reason alone it should not be perked as-is. Carrying an aux. fuel tank on either plane brings down the performance closer to or below that of a jug.

There may be a reason why the F4U's have famously been referred to as "hogs."

Flying the -4 feels like god mode for me.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2012, 08:07:47 AM »
A 163 will.

Anyone who brings a 262 to a strat/HQ is bat poop insane.

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2012, 08:09:58 AM »
Anyone who brings a 262 to a strat/HQ is bat poop insane.

Then again long as i've played I only seen one 262 at a HQ in years.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2012, 09:01:08 AM »
what.. someone wouldn't be able to look out the windows of the tower and get a 360 view?


You werent asking to look at the windows f5+f8 is external of the tower.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2012, 09:02:28 AM »
Speed is speed.  There is nothing in the Me262 that makes in inherently uncatchable.  An Me262 doing 400mph will indeed be caught by many piston engined fighters that have some altitude on it, including the Ki-84.

so it should be perked for that reason? Can catch a 262 off the runway and is That maneuverable.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2012, 09:05:20 AM »
so it should be perked for that reason? Can catch a 262 off the runway and is That maneuverable.

F4u-4 posts some of the best stats in the game, it has very few weaknesses.
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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2012, 09:15:07 AM »
The Me262 in the whine I was responding to had apparently just taken off and was less than two miles from the base when the Ki-84 dove on it and killed it.  It was definitely not going 550mph.  Probably not even 300mph.

And for what its worth, at 400mph there are a lot of piston engined fighters that can hang with you for way more time than is needed to kill you so long as they had altitude to convert to speed.

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2012, 10:40:38 AM »
I got a nice shot and kill on a 262 once last year. I was in a zero. Got word on range of a 262 on the deck just inside dar heading to our field. I got visual from a distance and turned at a right angle lead. I fired out in front of the 262 flight path and got a direct cockpit hit and instant kill. Surprised me as well as the 262 driver because he was pming me asking what I was in.

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Re: Unperk the F4U-4
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2012, 10:51:56 AM »
Your calling us.... TOP GUN pilots..... 109 and Spitfire dweebs.... who have crappy scores because we fight hordes.... Pony runtards....

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