Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Cheyenn on September 11, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
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~S~ Every One!
I do not know if this topic has ever been discuss before. What would be nice is to have the B-17E/F model in the
Early War. Also maybe the B-17F in the Mid War too. The B-17F model flew in the eary to mid war, from 1942 to
about mid 1944. This would be a great addition for the Early/Mid War. :aok
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I agree the E and F would be nice, but I am not sure the E would quite make it into Early War.
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I agree the E and F would be nice, but I am not sure the E would quite make it into Early War.
If the E won't make it into the EWA, then what if we tacked on the D as well and let it deal with things there? :D
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+1 to early models of 17s hehe and my Manchester for good measure
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An early war variant of the B17 and the B24 would be very nice to have, then I could and would commission someone to skin my grandfather's B24D he flew from early '43 to early '44. ("Panzy", with the 5th BG/72nd BS). :aok
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I agree the E and F would be nice, but I am not sure the E would quite make it into Early War.
Why not? Some E models flew the first 8th AF missions out of England.
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I think the Lancaster, B-17 and B-24 could use some further early/mid/late difinition/variety/represetnation in AH. Also the B-25 set would really benefit I think with a late-ware varient (it is the most popular arena), even though we have the B-26. It would be a good investment of development resource, allied (heavy) bombers are a major attraction of this game.
As much as I think the He-111 is needed eventualy in this game, it's just not as important of a "major atraction" as the B-17, and we only got one of those (this is Lusce's department, but compare this game's number of B-17 drivers (more than 12-24 sorties a tour) to it's jug or 109 or 190 drivers, and then compare that pie chart to the number of aircraft vareities available to those players...).
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p47c , nuff said
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p47c , nuff said
I wouldn't mind that either but an earlier model b17 would more apperciated I think
and I've been advocating for the P36C
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~S~ Every One!
Thank You for the support on the discussion of the early B-17E/F models.
Yes the B-17E flew the first missions from England. The USAAF's VIII Bomber Command in England flies Mission 1. Twelve B-17E Flying Fortresses of the 97th Bombardment Group (Heavy) based at Grafton Underwood, Northamptonshire, takeoff at 1527 hours. The lead aircraft of the first flight of six is named "Butcher Shop" and is piloted by Colonel Frank A. Armstrong, the group commander; the co-pilot is Major Paul W. Tibbets, the pilot of the B-29 "Enola Gay" which dropped the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima in August 1945. The lead aircraft of the second group is "Yankee Doodle" and this aircraft carries Major General Ira C. Eaker, Commanding General, VIII Bomber Command. The B-17s rendezvous with four squadrons of RAF Spitfire Mk. IXs and proceed to the target, the Sotteville marshalling yard at Rouen France. A second diversion force of six B-17s took off at 1512 hours from Polebrook, Northamptonshire, headed for France but then turned around and returned to base. All 12 aircraft bomb at 1739-1746 hours; the bombing was reasonably accurate with about half the bombs falling in the general target area. The escorts kept Luftwaffe fighters at bay but one Bf 109 got within range and was claimed as damaged by a ball turret gunner. The main force returns to base shortly after 1900 hours. (Jack McKillop)
I just had to put that in because I am the Commanding Officer of the v97th Bomb Group (H). We are a new BG in AH2. We have been together for about 31/2 months now. Some of you must have seen the Group in both Mid/Late War. That is why I started this thread in hope HiTech will consider making the B-17E/F model for the Early and Mid Wars.
Thank You All for your support.
Cheyenn
CO v97th BG (H)
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probably will take about 2 years cheyenn cause 2 years ago I posted that the p40s be remodeled lol
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Rgr Eric19 still it has to begin some where so I started it. Maybe HiTech will think about it. :pray I know things do not happen over night, still there is always hope that things will happen for the best.
Mean while I will just keep on :airplane: flying. :salute
Cheyenn
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17F has its place in Aces high, but there are many other aircraft that need to join the game first.
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:aok
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Early model B-17s would be a great addition. I remember an FSO a few years back (Too Little Too Late? :headscratch:) where we had to use B-17Gs that were required to take 100% fuel and only the 100lb bombs. :bhead
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Absolutely want the B-17F added.
Type---Number built/converted---Remarks
B-17F 3,405 Improved B-17E
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2453
Type---Number built/converted---Remarks
B-17E 512 Improved B17-D
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2452
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the EGG has spoken :old:
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17F has its place in Aces high, but there are many other aircraft that need to join the game first.
I very much agree with this statement.
As much as I think the He-111 is needed eventualy in this game, it's just not as important of a "major atraction" as the B-17, ...
Sorry Babalonian, but the He-111 is the single most needed bomber in this game. It would be used in EVERY European Theater setup up to 1944. The B-17F would be nice to have for events, but it would see little use in the MA compared to the B-17G.
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I very much agree with this statement.
Sorry Babalonian, but the He-111 is the single most needed bomber in this game. It would be used in EVERY European Theater setup up to 1944. The B-17F would be nice to have for events, but it would see little use in the MA compared to the B-17G.
not ture there devil I do believe it would be used quite a bit since it would be an earlier version with a higher eny thus making it a perk farmer which means the new comers to get alot of points they might want to fly it
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not ture there devil I do believe it would be used quite a bit since it would be an earlier version with a higher eny thus making it a perk farmer which means the new comers to get alot of points they might want to fly it
The B-17E would be a tab higher ENY, probably 25 ENY vs B-17G being 20 eny, Its defensive armament is still quite nice for its time period as well as bomb load.
B-17F Would probably end up between 20-23Eny
The E model wouldn't quite make 30 eny it still has a decent bomb load and excellent defensive firepower for early war - if you want a perk farmer you should fly the Ju-88, with extremely limited guns is the main reason I can see the Ju-88 so high up there along with HE-111 if it gets added.
Actually I think the E model would probably end up perked in Early War arena if not very LOW eny in comparison to other early war bombers.
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The B-17E would be a tab higher ENY, probably 25 ENY vs B-17G being 20 eny, Its defensive armament is still quite nice for its time period as well as bomb load.
B-17F Would probably end up between 20-23Eny
The E model wouldn't quite make 30 eny it still has a decent bomb load and excellent defensive firepower for early war - if you want a perk farmer you should fly the Ju-88, with extremely limited guns is the main reason I can see the Ju-88 so high up there along with HE-111 if it gets added.
Actually I think the E model would probably end up perked in Early War arena if not very LOW eny in comparison to other early war bombers.
porbably so there butcher but isn't the lanc perked in midwar???? the only thing with 88 that I have a problem with is the defensive guns I can hit people in the guns out to 1000yds but I can't kill them same with the boston
I love the bombload on a Ju88 I think it is a very decent bombload for only a 2 engined airplane and having a max speed of 298mph when unloaded at 20k
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porbably so there butcher but isn't the lanc perked in midwar???? the only thing with 88 that I have a problem with is the defensive guns I can hit people in the guns out to 1000yds but I can't kill them same with the boston
I love the bombload on a Ju88 I think it is a very decent bombload for only a 2 engined airplane and having a max speed of 298mph when unloaded at 20k
Thats the reason 88s so so high in eny - only 2x 7.9 machine guns protecting it rear upper and twin 7.9s protecting the ventral turret with a single 7.9 in the nose, in comparison to early war bombers - its fast and carries a very good load, defensively its on par with early war designs.
B-17E I believe came around 1942, which is 2 years after the Ju-88 , as much as I want the He-111 - it actually had just as bad defensive firepower, as other German Bombers except For He-177.
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+2 for He-111 and 17F def. needed
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B-17E I believe came around 1942, which is 2 years after the Ju-88 , as much as I want the He-111 - it actually had just as bad defensive firepower, as other German Bombers except For He-177.
Ju188 has a 20mm cannon in the top turret and 13mm guns in other positions. That seems a distinct upgrade from the Ju88 or He111 in terms of defensive firepower.