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Title: First Person Shooter
Post by: tuton25 on September 17, 2012, 09:20:37 PM
A free to play first person shooter aspect to aces high.....
think about it.....
20 goons carrying 200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Butcher on September 17, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: kvuo75 on September 17, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
A free to play first person shooter aspect to aces high.....
think about it.....
20 goons carrying 200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......


pfft. let the auto ack take care of em :)

Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 17, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
A free to play first person shooter aspect to aces high.....
think about it.....
20 goons carrying 200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......
I dont want to deal witht he 163 y.o. hate tells the old man hate tells are annoying enough as is.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: MrKrabs on September 17, 2012, 10:24:44 PM
Sure - and I'll be first in line to strafe for the free kills...
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Banshee7 on September 17, 2012, 11:25:48 PM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.


 :rofl  Butcher, you gonna come clean off my screen?
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Volron on September 18, 2012, 03:04:33 AM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.


:rofl  Butcher, you gonna come clean off my screen?

That makes two of us.  :rofl
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 18, 2012, 06:57:04 PM
A free to play first person shooter aspect to aces high.....
think about it.....
20 goons carrying 200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......

Been over this SOO  many times.

Any FPS aspect with gamplay deeper than an arcade shooter (you run around town shooting other troops who die in pretty much a single hit) would require a MAJOR overhaul of the object modeling, and would likely cause a complete and total shift in the dynamics of the game. Essentially, it wouldn't be Aces High any more, it would end up being WWIIOL with fewer restrictions on what you use, and with better modeling.

We might need to take a second look at the ENY and perk system/values as well.



-1
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: HawkerMKII on September 18, 2012, 06:58:31 PM
Why does everyone want to turn this game into an XBOX freking game :mad:
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 18, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
Why does everyone want to turn this game into an XBOX freking game :mad:

I guess you count HiTech in that group because it's been a long wish of his to add an player controlled troops to the game.


I'd like to see the addition of player controlled troops, it would be fun.

ack-ack
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Eric19 on September 18, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
I guess you count HiTech in that group because it's been a long wish of his to add an player controlled troops to the game.


I'd like to see the addition of player controlled troops, it would be fun.

ack-ack
it would be very fun to have snipers in the trees waitting for you when you come walking up mainstreet in a town lol
or for a start HT could give our downed pilots a thompson 45 with a 50 round drum mag or 30 round stick mag for the fighters and the drum for the bomber pilots lol
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: icepac on September 19, 2012, 09:49:50 AM
I've seen functionality where your C47 carries a "commando" in addition to the troops who, when dropped within a certain radius of an asset, will start lobbing a limited amount of mortar rounds at the asset.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: fbEagle on September 20, 2012, 09:45:13 AM
Sure - and I'll be first in line to strafe for the free kills...

Don't kid yourself were goona make you be the bus driver!  :rofl
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: tuton25 on September 20, 2012, 05:56:25 PM
If we added this and made it free, it would generate alot of buzz in the gaming comunity and would creat an increase in suscriptions
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 20, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
If we added this and made it free, it would generate alot of buzz in the gaming comunity and would creat an increase in suscriptions

It would also cause a lot of idiots and twits to join, which could potentially destroy the community, depending on their numbers.

At the absolute MINIMUM, we would have to keep them off of CH 200. But they would spam country channel with stuff thats irrelevent to most everyone, just because they wouldn't know any better, or felt like being dicks.

They would spam the BBS with requests for more free stuff for them to play with. They would be the type to call out alerts to base takes, because they didn't get a chance to fight in the town.



TERRIBLE idea.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 20, 2012, 06:05:40 PM
It would also cause a lot of idiots and twits to join, which could potentially destroy the community, depending on their numbers.

At the absolute MINIMUM, we would have to keep them off of CH 200. But they would spam country channel with stuff thats irrelevent to most everyone, just because they wouldn't know any better, or felt like being dicks.

TERRIBLE idea.

LOL have you seen my posts?
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: tuton25 on September 20, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
Only allow paying members on the MB and have members only channels
If you don't want to listen to it then this way you can just turn them off
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 20, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
Only allow paying members on the MB and have members only channels
If you don't want to listen to it then this way you can just turn them off

You do know that would probably be more inexpensive to pay for a subscription based game than to play a Free-To-Play game?  On average, in F2P games, players spend more a month than one pays for a subscription based game. 

Now, knowing that, for this game to survive in a F2P business model, micro-transactions would need to be added to generate revenue for the developers.  That means they'd probably charge you for what planes you want to fly.  Want to fly the P-51D? $5.00 please!  Want to be able to have the option to fly bombers in formations? $7.50 please!  Want to carry drop tanks? $2.99 please! 

No thanks.

ack-ack
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: tuton25 on September 20, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
You do know that would probably be more inexpensive to pay for a subscription based game than to play a Free-To-Play game?  On average, in F2P games, players spend more a month than one pays for a subscription based game. 

Now, knowing that, for this game to survive in a F2P business model, micro-transactions would need to be added to generate revenue for the developers.  That means they'd probably charge you for what planes you want to fly.  Want to fly the P-51D? $5.00 please!  Want to be able to have the option to fly bombers in formations? $7.50 please!  Want to carry drop tanks? $2.99 please! 

No thanks.

ack-ack

That could be an option but the only true Free thing would be the infantry
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Butcher on September 20, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
If we added this and made it free, it would generate alot of buzz in the gaming comunity and would creat an increase in suscriptions

Increase in subscription is not always the best thing in the world. Aces High actually has a very GOOD community of people. Besides a few standouts like me who tend to screw things up,
I've seen in the past increased subscribers tends to lead to BAD things overall (take for example World of Tanks) - seen a new video of a guy who ran scripts in the game giving him invisibiltiy and host of other stuff.
DayZ is prime example of what happens to a really GREAT concept for a game, that has far to many cheaters.

But like ack-ack says, if Hitech wants it, he will have it. I always assumed otherwise simply on fact there are so much to add in game far as planes/vehicles.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Butcher on September 20, 2012, 06:40:32 PM
You do know that would probably be more inexpensive to pay for a subscription based game than to play a Free-To-Play game?  On average, in F2P games, players spend more a month than one pays for a subscription based game. 

Now, knowing that, for this game to survive in a F2P business model, micro-transactions would need to be added to generate revenue for the developers.  That means they'd probably charge you for what planes you want to fly.  Want to fly the P-51D? $5.00 please!  Want to be able to have the option to fly bombers in formations? $7.50 please!  Want to carry drop tanks? $2.99 please! 

No thanks.

ack-ack

One reason I didn't like World of Planes and World of Tanks - after I seen that crap having to spend money to actually play otherwise you get slaughtered by people who did pay.
Look at the facebook games, Zynga is my most hated company - every so many months go by - all my poker chips disappear. the CEO said while back he was doing this because the company needed money badly and had to "shady" things to get money flowing.
He'd rig games to force you to either quit or spend money i.e buying poker chips.

Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Meatwad on September 20, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
If we added this and made it free, it would generate alot of buzz in the gaming comunity and would creat an increase in suscriptions

The requirement for it would be to take an online spelling and grammar class as a perquisite for the free arena. If you pass, the free arena is to sit in the tower and silently watch
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Spikes on September 20, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
One reason I didn't like World of Planes and World of Tanks - after I seen that crap having to spend money to actually play otherwise you get slaughtered by people who did pay.

Hardly.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: bongboy1 on September 21, 2012, 12:21:23 AM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.

:rofl lmao
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: tuton25 on September 21, 2012, 04:28:33 PM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.


I'm 16.....

The requirement for it would be to take an online spelling and grammar class as a perquisite for the free arena. If you pass, the free arena is to sit in the tower and silently watch

and I'm in honors english 10.....
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Meatwad on September 21, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
If we added this and made it free, it would generate alot of buzz in the gaming comunity and would creat an increase in suscriptions

Eh?
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on September 21, 2012, 09:58:46 PM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.


I think (and also hope) you are 100% correct. If you want 1st person, go play COD...

-1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :bhead
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: guncrasher on September 22, 2012, 02:12:30 AM
One reason I didn't like World of Planes and World of Tanks - after I seen that crap having to spend money to actually play otherwise you get slaughtered by people who did pay.
Look at the facebook games, Zynga is my most hated company - every so many months go by - all my poker chips disappear. the CEO said while back he was doing this because the company needed money badly and had to "shady" things to get money flowing.
He'd rig games to force you to either quit or spend money i.e buying poker chips.



that is not really accurate butcher.  I played for free for months and there's lots of players who play for free.  spending money only gets you faster to the tanks but buying gold rounds is a waste of money.


semp
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: ozrocker on September 22, 2012, 07:29:06 AM
I dont want to deal witht he 163 y.o. hate tells the old man hate tells are annoying enough as is.
:headscratch: Huh?


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Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: danny76 on September 22, 2012, 08:00:59 AM
The requirement for it would be to take an online spelling and grammar class as a perquisite  for the free arena. If you pass, the free arena is to sit in the tower and silently watch
Would that be similar to a prerequisite? I buleev is a gud addij wen ritin posts abot spellerin too b verry verry carefull wiv yer own :old:
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Tinkles on September 22, 2012, 08:25:11 AM
Would that be similar to a prerequisite? I buleev is a gud addij wen ritin posts abot spellerin too b verry verry carefull wiv yer own :old:

  :O      :rofl
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 22, 2012, 09:45:46 AM
:headscratch: Huh?


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Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: matt on September 22, 2012, 10:30:39 AM
I hope you are one of the 13 yr olds not wearing a parachute.

:O
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: hitech on September 22, 2012, 11:35:43 AM
The concept I have always wanted to implement, but I am short some character animation stuff to do so dancing troops was the first piece, was that when you drop troops on the ground (still npc) it opens a spawn into into an underground bunker complex that you use player controlled troops to  complete the capture or defend the capture.

The aspect that this idea has going for it, is that it isolates the mechanized world I.E. planes & tanks and a huge world graphics, from the solder fighting.

HiTech

Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: caldera on September 22, 2012, 12:11:00 PM
The concept I have always wanted to implement, but I am short some character animation stuff to do so dancing troops was the first piece, was that when you drop troops on the ground (still npc) it opens a spawn into into an underground bunker complex that you use player controlled troops to  complete the capture or defend the capture.

The aspect that this idea has going for it, is that it isolates the mechanized world I.E. planes & tanks and a huge world graphics, from the solder fighting.

HiTech



That sounds like a cross between DOOM and Medal of Honor.  It also sounds awesome!  :aok
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: stealth on September 22, 2012, 12:11:42 PM
Well if you haven't already if your looking for a game like Aceshigh 2 and some FPS game. Just play Arma 2, it's really good. Don't buy it though, wait until Arma 3 is out.

I would be interested in a cool FPS kinda thing where you walk out of the tower and hop in your plane. Have a picture on your planes dash with gum on the back of it. Just little things don't go whole D-Day invasion yet.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: TwinBoom on September 22, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
A free to play first person shooter aspect to aces high.....
think about it.....
20 goons carrying 200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......

8 different threads on first 2 pages started by you. ease up kid let some credible requests come through  :cheers:
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Lusche on September 22, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
That sounds like a cross between DOOM and Medal of Honor.  It also sounds awesome!  :aok



I would bet a year of AH subscription that if someone other than HT had posted that kind of thinking, we would already have 2 pages of "squeaker go back to your x-box" posts  :devil
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: caldera on September 22, 2012, 12:44:38 PM


I would bet a year of AH subscription that if someone other than HT had posted that kind of thinking, we would already have 2 pages of "squeaker go back to your x-box" posts  :devil

So true, but HT thinks things through a little better than most squeakers (even if his spelling is only on par with them).  ;)

I would rather more efforts were made to bring all the old planes up to date (and for that matter: everything done before the F6F-5, if I can be greedy about this) but this idea could generate more subscriptions to keep our cartoon planes flying.

The thing that I'm not sure about is that the above world rug (your base) could be pulled out from under you, without you knowing there are troops pillaging your command bunker.  The current method of troops running to the map room at least gives you a heads up, as well as a chance to stop them.  I don't care who has the most bases; but also don't want to be on final approach (with no enemies in sight), while 50 XBox squeakers storm the map room. 

p.s.  I have an XBox - and squeak too.  :joystick:

Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Tinkles on September 22, 2012, 12:46:37 PM


I would bet a year of AH subscription that if someone other than HT had posted that kind of thinking, we would already have 2 pages of "squeaker go back to your x-box" posts  :devil

Hitech is God here, we don't say anything to make him mad.   :uhoh      :salute
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: danny76 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:20 PM


I would bet a year of AH subscription that if someone other than HT had posted that kind of thinking, we would already have 2 pages of "squeaker go back to your x-box" posts  :devil

You were spot on :aok
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 22, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Personally i like the idea of joint mechanized and infantry battles. My idea would be to use the same town and map room set up for base caps like we already have, but with a few major changes:

1) a player (either attacker or defender) using a troop carrier (c47, lvt, m3) arrives on location. The player then drops a spawn point instead of AI troops. The spawn point is a doppelganger representation of the actual player-controlled troop carrier. If found, spawn points may be destroyed by any reasonable means to prevent more spawns.
2) each spawn point is only good for a fixed number of spawns (e.g. Jeep=3 infantry, apc=10 infantry, goon= stick of paratroopers). On the country map, a player will select a tab to "show troop spawns". When the player spawns in to the fake troop carrier, the player will then be able to select a kit (GI, AT, engineer, machine gunner).
3) troops and spawn points will not be identifiable from any mechanized vehicle (except a storch, perhaps). Only troops will be able to ID other troops as friend or foe.
4) a town must still be white flagged and have all major AA guns destroyed in order to cap the map room. However, there may be additional troop-controlled positions and defenses that do not necessarily need to be destroyed to allow a cap.
5) in order to cap a field, an attacking trooper must fight his/her way into the maproom and hold it for a certain amount of time. (Required number of troops in the maproom for a change can also be adjusted).
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: ink on September 22, 2012, 02:58:59 PM
I still think a FPS aspect of AH will not be a good thing.....to many great FPS's out already, unless what can be done competes it will be a dud.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: whiteman on September 22, 2012, 03:03:55 PM
200+ machine gun carrying 13 year olds jumping into a town.....
then you sit there in a tiger and blow them away.......

I like this part
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 22, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
So true, but HT thinks things through a little better than most squeakers (even if his spelling is only on par with them).  ;)


I see noting wrong with hi s spelling.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 22, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
I still think a FPS aspect of AH will not be a good thing.....to many great FPS's out already, unless what can be done competes it will be a dud.

I dont know it would open up a new way to defend or take a base. I think it would be pretty cool way to stop the horde.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: ink on September 22, 2012, 04:08:34 PM
I dont know it would open up a new way to defend or take a base. I think it would be pretty cool way to stop the horde.

ehhh....if I want to play a FPS I will play Homefront...or Sniper Elite, something along those lines.....

but it is HTC's company so his decision...I certainly wont stop playing if they add it....
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Eric19 on September 22, 2012, 07:52:02 PM
ehhh....if I want to play a FPS I will play Homefront...or Sniper Elite, something along those lines.....

but it is HTC's company so his decision...I certainly wont stop playing if they add it....
I think HTC can make an FPS sort of game 10 times better than homefront, battlefield, CoD, or an other FPS game out there
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 22, 2012, 08:45:57 PM
IDK if Hitech and his crew could really compete in the FPS category. Would their first attempt be better than other's first attempts? Well duh, they actually have some idea of what they're doing.


But I'm not sure if their first attempt would be the equal of some of the best FPS shooters. I mean Red Orchestra is simply amazing for that type of game.

For those of you that have played it, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say it a lot like a ground-war version of Aces High.


For another matter, the instant they add the Mp-44, its going to be THE weapon of choice. The only thing that could even kind of compete would be the BAR, the Bren, and maybe the Japanese type 99 and Russiand DP.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 22, 2012, 09:56:38 PM
I think y'all are over evaluating this. The only element of AH that this proposed FPS style will affect is the base captures. The mechanized aspect will remain in all of its hording, spawn camping, furballing glory. Compared to dedicated FPS's id say this would be pretty basic gameplay. I just see this fps as a means of spicing up a base capture; I don't think it will take over the game or anything.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Eric19 on September 22, 2012, 11:59:44 PM
I think y'all are over evaluating this. The only element of AH that this proposed FPS style will affect is the base captures. The mechanized aspect will remain in all of its hording, spawn camping, furballing glory. Compared to dedicated FPS's id say this would be pretty basic gameplay. I just see this fps as a means of spicing up a base capture; I don't think it will take over the game or anything.
I totaly agree and not just cause hes a one of my squadies lol ;)
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Nathan60 on September 23, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
ehhh....if I want to play a FPS I will play Homefront...or Sniper Elite, something along those lines.....

but it is HTC's company so his decision...I certainly wont stop playing if they add it....

You dont take bases anyway, Im sure there would be fights eslewhere.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: ink on September 23, 2012, 12:45:19 AM
You dont take bases anyway, Im sure there would be fights eslewhere.

exactly :D
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: Butcher on September 23, 2012, 12:51:30 AM
IDK if Hitech and his crew could really compete in the FPS category. Would their first attempt be better than other's first attempts? Well duh, they actually have some idea of what they're doing.

Not likely, a small company named ID Software has the lead on "FPS" first attempts being better then anyone else.

But since ID software is in Texas, pretty sure Hitech could just get some info and tips from the boys down there and develope Quake's'high.
Title: Re: First Person Shooter
Post by: icepac on September 23, 2012, 07:08:52 AM
FPS already exists in Aces High.

You can take out a field gun with the pistol at close range and kill enemy planes as well as other chutes.