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Title: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: deSelys on September 26, 2012, 02:59:32 AM
... you can't deny that they build them tough:

http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063 (http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063)

RIP to the helo crew.
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: deSelys on September 26, 2012, 03:05:03 AM
Another amazing feat of airmanship: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUstvXSytRc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUstvXSytRc)
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Ripsnort on September 26, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
Airbus, technologically speaking from a engineering design point of view, will never beat this one though. Their assembly and design is completely different.

Amazing was can happen with aged metal and poor maintenance, yet Boeing Engineering with redundancy designed into their aircraft, can survive just about anything a B-17 could...

(http://adtechenviro.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/b737-200-aloha-hawaii.jpg)
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Rob52240 on September 26, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Airbus, technologically speaking from a engineering design point of view, will never beat this one though. Their assembly and design is completely different.

Amazing was can happen with aged metal and poor maintenance, yet Boeing Engineering with redundancy designed into their aircraft, can survive just about anything a B-17 could...

(http://adtechenviro.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/b737-200-aloha-hawaii.jpg)

I remember when that happened.  I was terrified to fly after it was explained to me that folks were sucked out of the plane.
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Rob52240 on September 26, 2012, 12:58:27 PM
Now if you're impressed at Boeing's strong planes.  Look at the stress a Jeep grand cherokee can handle.

http://youtu.be/rRisXV7xm_c?t=40s
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Ripsnort on September 26, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
I remember when that happened.  I was terrified to fly after it was explained to me that folks were sucked out of the plane.
One person died, a flight attendant.
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: GScholz on September 26, 2012, 02:04:51 PM
To be fair Rip, a helicopter crashed into the Airbus. The Aloha B737 fell apart all on its own. TWA Flight 800, a B747, exploded and crashed into the Atlantic, all on its own. Aircraft disintegrating mid-air for no good reason is not something I'm fond of.
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: RedBull1 on September 26, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
Amazing stories,  :salute to both Airbus and Boeings amazing engineering
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Ripsnort on September 26, 2012, 02:22:01 PM
To be fair Rip, a helicopter crashed into the Airbus. The Aloha B737 fell apart all on its own. TWA Flight 800, a B747, exploded and crashed into the Atlantic, all on its own. Aircraft disintegrating mid-air for no good reason is not something I'm fond of.
And Norway ran away from the Germans to England.  :old:
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Shuffler on September 26, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
How does a helo hit a jet.... was everyone sleeping?
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: nrshida on September 26, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
And Norway ran away from the Germans to England.  :old:

Because they were going to make them buy Boeing!  :old:
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: deSelys on September 26, 2012, 04:35:50 PM
How does a helo hit a jet.... was everyone sleeping?

It's a war zone over there, I'm guessing that ATC is not as 'good' as usual...
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Babalonian on September 26, 2012, 07:11:14 PM
... you can't deny that they build them tough:

http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063 (http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063)

RIP to the helo crew.

Collision with a helicopter and no collision detection?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 26, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
... you can't deny that they build them tough:

http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063 (http://avherald.com/h?article=45671063)

RIP to the helo crew.

That helo crew was reportedly flying high to avoid ground fire after it made a couple of attack runs on a civilian neighborhood.  Looks like the 'copter pilot should have kept his eyes forward.

ack-ack
Title: Re: You can dislike airbuses for the 'fly-by-wire for dummies' software but...
Post by: GScholz on September 26, 2012, 07:38:41 PM
There is no such thing as a civilian in a civil war. Personally I side with the rebels, but I'm not going to demonize the government troops for doing their job.