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Title: New comp
Post by: numb1 on October 01, 2012, 02:12:05 PM
I will be buying a new computer this week.I have a grand to spend heres what i need help with.Amd 6100 or intel I5 3570k.Geforce gtx 560 or Radeon 7850 his ice edition.128 ssd or 1tb standard HD.Liquid cooled or air.I was looking at cyberpower for my computer cause i can pick it up there.Please give me feedback asap cause i am thinking tomorrow i will buy..

Thank you
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: gyrene81 on October 01, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
intel i5-3570k
128gb ssd plus a mechanical drive for data
if the 560 is a ti model, either gpu would be good, 7850 2gb model would get you a bit more eye candy...overall performance is close.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: 100Coogn on October 01, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
I will be buying a new computer this week.I have a grand to spend heres what i need help with.Amd 6100 or intel I5 3570k.Geforce gtx 560 or Radeon 7850 his ice edition.128 ssd or 1tb standard HD.Liquid cooled or air.I was looking at cyberpower for my computer cause i can pick it up there.Please give me feedback asap cause i am thinking tomorrow i will buy..

Thank you

I'd get ahold of TilDeath. 

Coogan
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: cattb on October 01, 2012, 03:58:14 PM
Unless your going to do alot of overeclocking I would get air cooled.
128 GB I don't think will be enough storage alone. I would go with the HD. A SSD can always be added later.
560 and 7850 are about equal. 560 ti is a bit better then a 7850, or was last I researched last winter.
3570k will be faster then the 6100.

I would talk to tilldeath and compare with cyberpower. Compare warranty, repair, check about written warranty etc. ( I am just throwing this in here)

Last but not least, If you are mechanically inclined at all and have some patience. Buy the parts and build it yourself. A computer is not hard to assemble.
Downside of building yourself, no written warranty other then for parts. It breaks you troubleshoot and fix.
Goodluck
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: numb1 on October 01, 2012, 04:42:37 PM
Thanx
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: numb1 on October 01, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
I can build so much more with a AMD chip.All i play is AH watch youtube vids and hd movies.Does AH use more CPU or GPU?
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: 100Coogn on October 01, 2012, 05:02:28 PM
Does Tildeath build comps or something?

 :noid

Coogan
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: Debrody on October 01, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
What gyrene said.

i5 3570 (it eats the AMD CPUs alive)
Radeon 7850 (a better GPU, by about 25-30%, also the difference is just going to be even bigger in the future)
Air cooling (liquid isnt necessery, a good air cooling can keep your CPU cool in any conditions, also a LOT cheaper)
SSD and HDD, OS on the fast one, the data (films, music, etc) on the big hard drive.
 :aok
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: cattb on October 01, 2012, 07:55:36 PM
My mistake its the 6850 and the 560 are about equal. I'm sure the 7850 is better then the older 560.

TD is a computer builder and runs a bussiness. Many people here like his computers and service. Heres the link, its up to you what you do with it.
http://www.tdcomputersystems.com/ (http://www.tdcomputersystems.com/)

Skuzzy be the one to ask about CPU and GPU. From what I have read I would almost say CPU.

Yes, I agree you can save alot more by buying a AMD chip. I ran AMD for years and still do in another computer.. I ran Intel before that. I changed to Intel, because I figured the change was best for my use. I suggest you do some research. Read some reviews, look at charts, and investigate some more.

Is there any local computer builders in your area? There could be some more information.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: Bino on October 01, 2012, 09:29:29 PM
IMHO, the AMD 6800 series video cards are obsolete, and were never much better than the 5800 series.  Check out the 7870 - it's nearly as fast as the 7950.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: guncrasher on October 01, 2012, 09:31:30 PM
yup give td a call.   many here have gotten some really nice computers from him.


semp
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: numb1 on October 02, 2012, 12:06:07 AM
His systems online look really pricey. I was looking here. www.cyberpowerpc.com
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: guncrasher on October 02, 2012, 01:35:04 AM
His systems online look really pricey. I was looking here. www.cyberpowerpc.com

give him a call anyway see what can he do within your budget.  the computers that he's pricing are not the only ones he sells..


semp
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: Bino on October 02, 2012, 10:10:24 AM
His systems online look really pricey. I was looking here. www.cyberpowerpc.com

When it comes to hardware, you pretty much get what you pay for.  Some of the components CyberpowerPC offers are cheap junk, IMHO.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: numb1 on October 03, 2012, 11:36:45 PM
Ok so i ordered my comp.I did not have enough money to buy a SSD yet.Will it be hard if i buy one in the future to transfer windows to SSD as a boot drive?Here's what i got.

I5-3570k
Asetek 550lc liquid cooling
1tb  at 7200rpms
8gb DDR3 AT 2133MHZ Corsair Vengeance
Gigabyte Z77 DS3H MB
600 watt corsair power supply
Radeon 7850 2GB HIS ICEQ edition
7.1 audio

Title: Re: New comp
Post by: cattb on October 04, 2012, 12:16:46 AM
Looks like a nice puter. If you get a SSD try to get at least a 128 gb. The reason being by the time you add your OS, possibly couple favorite programs and updates to your OS it is possible to run low on space on a 64GB. Once running low on space the drive will not run as efficiently.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 04, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
Looks like a nice puter. If you get a SSD try to get at least a 128 gb. The reason being by the time you add your OS, possibly couple favorite programs and updates to your OS it is possible to run low on space on a 64GB. Once running low on space the drive will not run as efficiently.

For windows even 128gb will get small in a jiffy. I was shocked to see my win7 folder size in a 3 year old install - 178Gb. Full of shadow copies, backed up patches, service packs and whatnot.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: gyrene81 on October 04, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
For windows even 128gb will get small in a jiffy. I was shocked to see my win7 folder size in a 3 year old install - 178Gb. Full of shadow copies, backed up patches, service packs and whatnot.
yikes man, mine is only at 168gb with 50gb of music/movies, 8gb of misc crap and 20 games...if i offloaded all the cruft to my secondary drive, maybe 70gb would be used.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: cattb on October 04, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
The reason I say a 128GB is I made the mistake of buying a 64 gig. Currently I have 50 gig on my 64gb SSD. Windows7 is a little larger then I expected after updates etc. I also run couple other programs on it.



What it boils down to is how the person sets thier computer up for thier personal use.
Heck maybe for someone a 256 GB is to small but yet another a 128 GB would be large enough drive for thier needs.
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: zack1234 on October 05, 2012, 02:47:33 AM
I know after a partitioned my drive and put aces high on its own everying from sound,graphics,track ir etc improved vastly :old:

It was mentioned that having a separate drive altogether would be even better, and with the falling cost of drives its possible.

I also just put Linux on, still cant see benefits of it though :)
Title: Re: New comp
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 05, 2012, 05:34:58 AM

I also just put Linux on, still cant see benefits of it though :)

You will once you learn to use it a bit. You can modify it to your liking, switch desktops on the fly etc. And it's safe to use. With windows you're constantly with a gun to your temple when you download anything from the internet. And I mean anything - even advertisements on any news web site etc 'safe' sites can be loaded with trojan injectors or malware. Antiviruses are useless. 99% of the computers I have seen infected have been running an up to date antivirus. For what I may ask?