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Title: JU 52
Post by: SCABIUS on October 02, 2012, 06:56:49 AM
We have the allies C47 why not the JU-52
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Wiley on October 02, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
If memory serves, HTC has stated in the past they don't want an armed goon.

Wiley.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Nathan60 on October 02, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
If memory serves, HTC has stated in the past they don't want an armed goon.

Wiley.

Not to start anything but  did they mention a reasoning? we already have a Jet bomber with 20mm that may or may not be factious
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Lusche on October 02, 2012, 12:10:14 PM
If memory serves, HTC has stated in the past they don't want an armed goon.

I have never heard or read anything like that  :headscratch:
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: VonMessa on October 02, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
JU52 is not an armed goon.

In fact, it is not a goon at all...
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: whiteman on October 02, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
like it, more things to shoot at is a positive.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Wiley on October 02, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
I have never heard or read anything like that  :headscratch:

I could swear I remember reading it a couple years ago, search turns up nothing.  *shrug*

Wiley.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Karnak on October 02, 2012, 01:31:45 PM
The reason we don't have a Ju52 is the same as the reason we don't have a Tu-2, Ki-43 or He111, they just haven't gotten to it yet and it has been a lower priority compared to other things.

The Ju52 being armed doesn't matter as that is simply a choice.  Do you want to take the 60-70mph faster C-47 or the lightly armed Ju52?  It is like the choice between the lightly gunned Lancaster with its very heavy bomb load or the heavily armed B-17G with a much lighter bomb load.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Rino on October 02, 2012, 03:09:03 PM
JU52 is not an armed goon.

In fact, it is not a goon at all...


     Nope, it sure isn't.  It's a shed with wings  :D
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: tmetal on October 02, 2012, 03:55:34 PM
HEY!! It's an armed shed with wings!  :lol
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: tuton25 on October 02, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
I don't think a single 7.92mm or 13mm machine gun is gonna make a differance against a P-51
If it could shoot on the ground now that would be interesting
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: save on October 03, 2012, 07:15:10 AM
well i got killed by a rear gunner 110 some time ago ( in an A8 ! ) so some guns are better than no guns i guess.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: SCABIUS on October 03, 2012, 08:09:08 AM
Even if it is armed, why not? It was Germanys main trainsport aircraft. It's not that great of a plane but for realism purposes the game should have aleast the main aircraft and vehicles of all sides. They talk about realism well lets get real. :cheers:

General characteristics
 Crew: 3 (two pilots, radio operator)
 Capacity: 18 troops or 12 litter patients
 Length: 18.90 m (62 ft 0 in)
 Wingspan: 29.25 m (95 ft 10 in)
 Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 10 in)
 Wing area: 110.5 m² (1,190 ft²)
 Empty weight: 6,510 kg (14,325 lb)
 Loaded weight: 9,200 kg (20,270 lb)
 Max. takeoff weight: 10,990 kg (24,200 lb)
 Powerplant: 3 × BMW 132T radial engines, 533 kW (715 hp)[32] each
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 265 km/h (165 mph) at sea level
 Cruise speed: 211 km/h (132 mph)
 Range: 870 km (540 mi)
 Service ceiling: 5,490 m (18,000 ft)
 Rate of climb: 17 minutes to 3,050 m (10,000 ft)
 
Armament

 Guns: * 1 × 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun in a dorsal position
 2 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 15 machine guns
 Bombs: up to 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) of bombs (some variants)
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: save on October 05, 2012, 05:02:54 AM
It also was used for bombing (Spain), and have the looks !


Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Karnak on October 05, 2012, 09:51:21 AM
well i got killed by a rear gunner 110 some time ago ( in an A8 ! ) so some guns are better than no guns i guess.
Some guns are better than no guns, all else being equal, but between the Ju52 and C-47 not all else is equal.  The C-47 is much faster.  That is why it would be a choice.
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Hazard69 on October 06, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
Some guns are better than no guns, all else being equal, but between the Ju52 and C-47 not all else is equal.  The C-47 is much faster.  That is why it would be a choice.

True, but I'm pretty sure theres enough die-hard german iron aficionados who'd still take it up regardless.  :salute
A few .30s aren't going to save anyone being chased by a fighter, but then again neither would being 60mph faster.  :P
EDIT: Matter of fact I think a more common defensive technique would be to use the slower speed to try and get the con to auger.  :lol
Title: Re: JU 52
Post by: Karnak on October 06, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
True, but I'm pretty sure theres enough die-hard german iron aficionados who'd still take it up regardless.  :salute
A few .30s aren't going to save anyone being chased by a fighter, but then again neither would being 60mph faster.  :P
EDIT: Matter of fact I think a more common defensive technique would be to use the slower speed to try and get the con to auger.  :lol
60mph faster buys you time and perhaps a friendly will be able to intervene.

Both are sitting ducks.

As to the German fans, as I said, it is a choice and thus would be a nice addition.  When people ask for armed, 280mph Italian bombers that were also troop transports, well, that isn't a choice, it is just flat out better in all ways.