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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Debrody on October 03, 2012, 05:51:53 AM

Title: Strat suggestion
Post by: Debrody on October 03, 2012, 05:51:53 AM
Please, bring back the zone strat system, there is that big, nice looking city you were putting all that work into, i would like to see it more!
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: hitech on October 03, 2012, 08:28:25 AM
Not sure what you are really asking for.

The zone strat system was that different complexes only effects some of a countries fields. Bring this back would have the effect of bombing strat becoming less effective, and hence again it would become something not used.

So is it that you want strat different places on the map, or that you wish it to only effect some fields. And what is your real desire in asking for this back. Vissual, less effect, more places to bomb?

HiTech
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: The Fugitive on October 03, 2012, 10:28:39 AM
I think spreading them back out would make for more fights. Have it still affect the whole country in stead of zone. As it is now you see a big Dar heading out you know where it is going. If the strats were spread back out there could be some surprise added to where that Dar bar was heading.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: 100Coogn on October 03, 2012, 10:43:08 AM
I think spreading them back out would make for more fights. Have it still affect the whole country in stead of zone. As it is now you see a big Dar heading out you know where it is going. If the strats were spread back out there could be some surprise added to where that Dar bar was heading.

+1
Coogan
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Rob52240 on October 03, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
Did small maps have zone strats?

Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Lusche on October 03, 2012, 10:49:12 AM
Did small maps have zone strats?

Technically yes, but each country had only a single zone. So we had the same number of factories on small maps as we do have now, just more dispersed.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 03, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
I think spreading them back out would make for more fights. Have it still affect the whole country in stead of zone. As it is now you see a big Dar heading out you know where it is going. If the strats were spread back out there could be some surprise added to where that Dar bar was heading.

+1
That would also be more realistic, as critical factories are scattered around the country in real life. Also the dispersion of the Factories would force a Strat attack to focus on a specific factory, as it was in WW2, where Bombing raids on the Ball Bearing factories, or the Refineries were planned and executed. Now any Strat attack is getting a little of everything, no focus just bomb the strats. Albeit in most cases the current attack is on the City and AA Factory, any serious damage there ensures a much easier Base capture or at least a significantly longer time to accomplish the capture.

BTW 4 minute reduction in downtime from a supply drop is too low.  :D
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Nathan60 on October 03, 2012, 11:27:29 AM
Not sure what you are really asking for.

The zone strat system was that different complexes only effects some of a countries fields. Bring this back would have the effect of bombing strat becoming less effective, and hence again it would become something not used.

So is it that you want strat different places on the map, or that you wish it to only effect some fields. And what is your real desire in asking for this back. Vissual, less effect, more places to bomb?

HiTech

Yes but  not just for the  points it would be nice for these places to have an effect , I can understas that  the current  strats have a greater  effect, but perhaps figuring some waty yo make base caps even hardewr but to by taking out area targets  around the bases that would make thakeing the base easier migth  give folks to use to old area system. Maybe having guel dummps nearby still up decrease the time that  AA is down,  factories can effect the time of hangers fuel dumps for fuel and vehicles.  Not relaly a fleshed out I dea just throwing it out thre for discussion
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Rob52240 on October 03, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
What about zone or front based eny?

To me it makes no sense to not have it.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Delirium on October 03, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
I'd say leave the factories where they are but add depots (fuel, ammo, etc) that resupplies a zone. Have the destruction of a depot affect an airfield, but only on a local level, instead of the entire country.

The depots don't need to be incredibly big, but would make for another target to be defended.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Debrody on October 03, 2012, 11:46:58 AM
Not sure what you are really asking for.

The zone strat system was that different complexes only effects some of a countries fields. Bring this back would have the effect of bombing strat becoming less effective, and hence again it would become something not used.

So is it that you want strat different places on the map, or that you wish it to only effect some fields. And what is your real desire in asking for this back. Vissual, less effect, more places to bomb?

HiTech
Im not a bomber pilot, therefore im not really looking for more bombing targets.
Only asking for the visual stuff: that city is pretty cool looking, yet i cant see it much. Whats the point of it then? Placing 3-4 cities near the front line (withouth being valuable strat target, or even without ack) would help a lot on the immersion.

Also, off topic, i know, but this would allow some tank action in theese cities. Imagie a tank-town with all those buildings, lets say, in the trinity...   i know, im dreaming big  :)
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: ImADot on October 03, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
Also, off topic, i know, but this would allow some tank action in theese cities. Imagie a tank-town with all those buildings, lets say, in the trinity...   i know, im dreaming big  :)

For the tank-town action to be fair, you'd have to make sure those cities don't have ANY ack that would pummel the teams that don't own the city. I did that for the Canyon terrain that I built for the AvA. Load up a custom arena with that terrain and find the tank-town (two sets of spawns meet near it) and play around in it...GV fights there are fun.

Back on topic, I think spreading the factories across the terrain, but still affect the country as a whole, would be good.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: gyrene81 on October 03, 2012, 12:04:31 PM
too bad there isn't a way to have a combination of both strat systems...could make things very interesting.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Rob52240 on October 03, 2012, 12:45:11 PM
Given the option Debrody, would you prefer rail yards be added first?
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Chalenge on October 03, 2012, 07:46:52 PM
Debrody doesnt get the strat system he is just looking for something to break up the view.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 03, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Hitech-

I think having more strategic targets to bomb would be beneficial to AH.  Why?  Right now it seems everything is funneled to the industrial complex.  If there were motor pools, railroad yards, supply ports, coal mines, mini-cities, or other such targets to bomb that would add X number of minutes to OBJ down times (call it an interruption of the circle of industries, etc), then perhaps what was once a major part of AH may return: attack missions by Mossi's, A20's, 110's, etc.  Attacking the industrial complex with anything but high altitude bombers is suicide.

I say keep the industrial complex as the key part of the strategic strategy, but having some out laying targets of lessor value but yet still important enough to defend would only add to the depth of AH.  Offering variety would be a huge benefit, imo. 
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: phatzo on October 04, 2012, 03:42:51 PM
cherry sunburst with a SD hotrail in the bridge position.
Title: Re: Strat suggestion
Post by: Eric19 on October 04, 2012, 09:02:10 PM
add railyards little to no ack on them so the fighter jocks can come in and have some with there bombs rockets and 50s lol we bomber pilots have enough to bomb as is