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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SmokinLoon on November 05, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
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When Obama was elected in '08, I remember Skuzzy posting in his purple text a warning regarding NOT discussing politics in the MA's, period, or fear the ban hammer. I'm proposing HTC start early with their warnings.
While I love to engage someone in a political discussion (have a minor in Political Science, missed a full fledged B.S. degree by 3 credits), notice I said "discussion" and not "debate", I too would like the MA's to remain free of such political jibber-ish. I'd like for HTC to have a kind reminder in the "Arena Message" for when players start up the game to leave the election madness back in real life to head it off at the pass so it is stopped before it begins.
Politics is a very funny thing albeit being very nasty. Otto Von Bismark, the father of modern Germany once said: "There are two things the public should never see: the making of sausage and the making of laws." Fraternities and sororities usually have a standing rule as well: "There are 2 things brothers (and sisters) never speak of amongst themselves: religion and politics". In my studies and throughout all my conversations with people regarding politics a few things have been clear: most people do not understand the complexity or depth in which the levels of government work or interact with each other, including the difference of federal, state, and local governing "rights". On the same token most people do not really understand party platforms and the basis in which those platforms are built on. Further more, most people are not educated enough in what goes on behind closed doors in a state legislature or even the US Congress to understand what they are voting for. The sad thing is most people reply on the mainstream media for their "facts" and we all have seen how twisted, wrong, and corrupt they can be (ABC News edited the 911 tape of the Trayvon Martin's shooting completely out of text to show guilt of George Zimmerman, etc, etc).
Anyways... back on track-
HTC... PLEASE put a friendly reminder in the Arena Message making it taboo to speak of the elections. Keep Aces High as it should be: enjoyable. Thanks.
-BudGray
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IN
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I mostly agree though almost to the other end. This election is running very tense. I would allow for a warning or two then hammer them. If not, we may as well turn 200 off until Friday, unless heaven forbid we have another hanging chad recount circa 2000 Florida...
Boo
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I am voting for Roosevelt :old:
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I am voting for Roosevelt :old:
Ted or Frank?
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Susan :old:
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most people do not understand the complexity or depth in which the levels of government work or interact with each other, including the difference of federal, state, and local governing "rights". On the same token most people do not really understand party platforms and the basis in which those platforms are built on. Further more, most people are not educated enough in what goes on behind closed doors in a state legislature or even the US Congress to understand what they are voting for. The sad thing is most people reply on the mainstream media for their "facts" and we all have seen how twisted, wrong, and corrupt they can be (ABC News edited the 911 tape of the Trayvon Martin's shooting completely out of text to show guilt of George Zimmerman, etc, etc).
Always good to be reminded how ignorant I am. Thank you for lighting up my world.
- oldman
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Susan is Ted's great-granddaughter.
Vote for Susan + Ouija Board = Ted
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Just add the names "obama", "romney" and the other big names to the "banned text" file.
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Always good to be reminded how ignorant I am. Thank you for lighting up my world.
- oldman
Read up :)
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Always good to be reminded how ignorant I am. Thank you for lighting up my world.
- oldman
He said 'most people' - he couldn't have been referring to you, Oldman. You are a rare combination of congeniality, intelligence, and skill. You are not most people, I assure you.
<S>, sir!
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My wife is writing in Harrison Ford. He did great in that movie,...
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no political discussions....ok....lets talk about religion then.................LOL :eek:
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no political discussions....ok....lets talk about religion then.................LOL :eek:
Sounds like sombody just found Jeebus. :devil
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I am amused when someone feels they know more than others about politics. I just like to know where these folks are getting their information if is not from the media. All information comes from the media in one form or another. I don't think anyone in this world has enough connections where they can have access to every political back room.
Fred
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PorkyPig/FiberOne for President/Vice President against Really/0hReally in Aces High.
Let the voting begin
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:noid :noid :noid :noid Really? :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
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+1
Everyone see's the world differently. different opinions and beliefs. Circumstances in there lifes which determine what they believe. Political talk should kept in PM or vox and not on 200 or country. On AH there are to many people that think it's wrong because it's not there belief or choice. And thus a simple friendly discussion turns into a heated debate followed by insults and arguing when viewed the the community. A warning followed by action would be a great addition :rock
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personally I enjoy reading all the moronic comments and the crying, it makes me feel much better about myself
it's going to get even sweeter in a few days, that's for sure :)
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personally I enjoy reading all the moronic comments and the crying, it makes me feel much better about myself
it's going to get even sweeter in a few days, that's for sure :)
HeHeHe :aok :cheers:
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after Tuesday it wont be a discussion, one side will be whining other side be bragging
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does not matter who anyone votes for...it is already decided who will be the next figure head.....and thats all they are.
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Really if you have enough time to actually keep up with a long conversation in the text buffer you need to find a fight and get in it...
Durned buff drivers anyway :) :bolt:
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PorkyPig/FiberOne for President/Vice President against Really/0hReally in Aces High.
Let the voting begin
I am PorkyPig and I approve this message!
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I am amused when someone feels they know more than others about politics. I just like to know where these folks are getting their information if is not from the media. All information comes from the media in one form or another. I don't think anyone in this world has enough connections where they can have access to every political back room.
Fred
Oh, I agree. Educating people in the merits of party platform and how it relates to real issues make for great discussions, especially with people who "are in the know" when in fact they've been brainwashed in to thinking a certain way by whatever venue happened to get in their head. In regards to people who are able to make decisions based not on a news network, it it amazing what text books and research of political theory can teach a person. When there are people who respond "I vote the X party because they are for the little guy", or "I vote for Y party because they are better for business", etc, etc, a simple question to them such as "Why do you think that?", provides a lot of information that has been taught and perpetuated by the media that is incorrect to begin with.
When the media reports something the first thing an educated person will do is deduct what is opinion and speculation, and apply what they individually know as being true to the situation regardless of personal feelings. It is unfortunate that the news media has gone from reporting a news story to instead telling a story about an event. Also, having knowledge of other cultures and even differences in regional culture (Alexandria, Egypt vs Benghazi, Libya), will help in deducting falsehoods and speculation vs reality. So it isnt so much as having connections to every political backroom, but knowing rather how things work and do not work, and know what is Hollywood and what isn't.
Keep in mind that I personally do not try and change someone's belief, I simply try and make them dig a bit for information other than the mainstream media, go out and learn why things are the way they are. Once they understand they views usually follow right along with them. :aok
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:noid :rolleyes:
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Don’t confuse educated and intelligent and treat them with the same reverence.
Educated just means you stayed in a role long enough to pass a series of tests. That’s perseverance. Intelligent is a product of your DNA milkshake. That’s fate.
But wise, that’s the one. The wise one sees through it all – use wise.
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i just .report them
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It's too bad, because it is very fun and interesting to discuss politics.
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It's too bad, because it is very fun and interesting to discuss politics.
and there are plenty of places for it, that aren't in this game.
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It's too bad, because it is very fun and interesting to discuss politics.
I find political discussions quite entertaining. I find bumper sticker sized slogans and and disinformation gleaned from the latest outrage pandering chain email they got uninteresting in the extreme.
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Don’t confuse educated and intelligent and treat them with the same reverence.
Educated just means you stayed in a role long enough to pass a series of tests. That’s perseverance. Intelligent is a product of your DNA milkshake. That’s fate.
But wise, that’s the one. The wise one sees through it all – use wise.
Good point. Knowledge is one thing. The ability to use that knowledge is another. The act of applying that knowledge in a practical standpoint is yet another thing. Also, no matter how much a person learns there is one thing that can not be taught. Anyone guess what it is???
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:noid :noid :noid :noid Really? :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Hey DadKev, I'll vote for the right one President and the left one Vice Prez. :D
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P-P-P-Porky for P-P-P-President of Aces High!
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I am PorkyPig and I approve this message!
:O :x :x :x :aok :aok :bolt:P-P-P-Porky for P-P-P-President of Aces High!
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and there are plenty of places for it, that aren't in this game.
The discussions that happen in the game are far more interesting and entertaining than ones available in most other places. AH has a good mix of people with ideas from all different perspectives.
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Not to mention you dont like it, there is always squelch.
Get over it.
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Not to mention you dont like it, there is always squelch.
Get over it.
we got the big squelch, from HTC..
no politics in game, get over it!
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The discussions that happen in the game are far more interesting and entertaining than ones available in most other places. AH has a good mix of people with ideas from all different perspectives.
Bunch of dudes in there underwear,sitting at the computer.Drinking a beer, and 1 naked guy. :uhoh :P
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Sorry I find it ironic that we have to endure endless hours of mindless blather and BS from the likes of WHO...MaNAwar and BONG yet one mention of a current event political candidate and BOOM the Ban stick........................ ....just sayin :eek:
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Bunch of dudes in there underwear,sitting at the computer.Drinking a beer, and 1 naked guy. :uhoh :P
And with hands stained orange from Cheetos!
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My best friend and I used to argue politics, each taking turns at each side even though we had similar views. That was entertaining discussion/debate.
My older brother and I can't even discuss politics without it ending up very bad. We have, in the past, been diametrically opposed.
These days my views on the subject are my views and I keep them to myself. I wish others would do the same.
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These days my views on the subject are my views and I keep them to myself. I wish others would do the same.
This.
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Its a disgrace the US says its a democracy but why am I not allowed to vote for the next President :old:
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most people do not understand the complexity or depth in which the levels of government work or interact with each other, including the difference of federal, state, and local governing "rights". On the same token most people do not really understand party platforms and the basis in which those platforms are built on. Further more, most people are not educated enough in what goes on behind closed doors in a state legislature or even the US Congress to understand what they are voting for. The sad thing is most people reply on the mainstream media for their "facts" and we all have seen how twisted, wrong, and corrupt they can be (ABC News edited the 911 tape of the Trayvon Martin's shooting completely out of text to show guilt of George Zimmerman, etc, etc).
so we're too stupid or dumb to rationally discuss politics? thank you for pointing that out to us common folk. I'm glad we have smaht peoples like you looking out for us poor, under or uneducated folk!
oh yeah.........IN!
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Its a disgrace the US says its a democracy but why am I not allowed to vote for the next President :old:
The US is a Constitutional Republic. It is a form of democracy, but not an absolute representation like in parliamentary governments. Surely you knew that. ;)
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What we really need is a benevolent dictator. Emperor Skuzzy! :old:
Or we could just exhume Millard Fillmore for his long overdue second term. :aok
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so we're too stupid or dumb to rationally discuss politics? thank you for pointing that out to us common folk. I'm glad we have smaht peoples like you looking out for us poor, under or uneducated folk!
oh yeah.........IN!
Oh no, not at all. I'm not calling anyone "stupid" or unable to discuss rationally the issues of politics. Quite the contrary. Most people once engaged and at least hear why a stance is the way it is by a political party they at least think "what and why?". My point was that there are a great many people who do not know what they are voting for only that "their parents voted that way so they are too", or find some other stigmatic label and apply it to a specific party when in fact it certainly is not true in the least bit. When I have conversations and discussions with people from both sides of the spectrum I do a very good job at being the devil's advocate. I get accused of being a sympathizer for the "other" side but in fact I'm very much a Constitutionalist/Centrist. The most entertaining thing is to point out the hypocrisy in political platforms and then let people try and explain their way around it. :D
Oh... and what do you mean "IN"? I'm not seeing any violations, I have yet to see an endorsement or actual political discussion/debate. This is about the topic of, not the issues within. :aok
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Also, no matter how much a person learns there is one thing that can not be taught. Anyone guess what it is???
In the 31 years that Mrs RTR and I have been married she has never been able to learn to close the kitchen cupboards. I have lumps and scars on my head that were not there 31 years ago.
So I say that closing cupboard doors can not be taught, or learned.
RTR
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Oh... and what do you mean "IN"? I'm not seeing any violations, I have yet to see an endorsement or actual political discussion/debate. This is about the topic of, not the issues within.
You can never be certain of this. I posted a thread about the F35, and how NATO countries like mine were going about acquiring it. Nothing political at all, other than the mention of the word "NATO" in a few spots. The post got locked for a #14. "It was not the topic, it was the reference to political bodies, such as NATO and political leaders that got it killed", exact quote. So if THAT can draw the wrath of a #14, how can a thread like this NOT?
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A Honey Pot to collect the politcaly inclined and their greifers in which to allow reasonable steam to blow off while management keeps an eye on things during a very emotional and historic day in the life of the U.S.A.
Might as well let you get it out of your systems and not have to go hunting for one target at a time with the MOD Hammer or Ban Stick. This makes a perfictly good dear stand.
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Voted.
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The US is a Constitutional Republic. It is a form of democracy, but not an absolute representation like in parliamentary governments. Surely you knew that. ;)
I rang up the White-house and told them I owned a Ford car,ate McDonalds and paid a subscription to AH which thus contributes the the well being of the US :old:
They told me I had to be a American to vote, its a disgrace :old:
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Voted.
Me too. We could vote on POTUS, then our lone representative to Washington, then on to SD Legislature seats (1 sen and 2 reps per district), Public Utilities Commissioner, retain a district judge (or not), then a yes/no vote on 4 SD Constitutional Amendments. Quick and easy and pain free, I was in and out in about 3 minutes.
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Vote to legalize weed!And free zinc for all.
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Is Zinc good for rashes?
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Oh no, not at all. I'm not calling anyone "stupid" or unable to discuss rationally the issues of politics. Quite the contrary. Most people once engaged and at least hear why a stance is the way it is by a political party they at least think "what and why?". My point was that there are a great many people who do not know what they are voting for only that "their parents voted that way so they are too", or find some other stigmatic label and apply it to a specific party when in fact it certainly is not true in the least bit. When I have conversations and discussions with people from both sides of the spectrum I do a very good job at being the devil's advocate. I get accused of being a sympathizer for the "other" side but in fact I'm very much a Constitutionalist/Centrist. The most entertaining thing is to point out the hypocrisy in political platforms and then let people try and explain their way around it. :D
Oh... and what do you mean "IN"? I'm not seeing any violations, I have yet to see an endorsement or actual political discussion/debate. This is about the topic of, not the issues within. :aok
P-P-P-Porky for P-P-P-President! of Aces High!
I am PorkyPig and I approve this message
:devil :D :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :D :devil
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Sorry I find it ironic that we have to endure endless hours of mindless blather and BS from the likes of WHO...MaNAwar and BONG yet one mention of a current event political candidate and BOOM the Ban stick........................ ....just sayin :eek:
This!
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My point was that there are a great many people who do not know what they are voting for only that "their parents voted that way so they are too", or find some other stigmatic label and apply it to a specific party when in fact it certainly is not true in the least bit.
After a mild political debate with an older co-worker, I was informed that (fill in the blank) party is for him because, "I've carried a lunch pail my whole life". He went on to tell me that same party is for the poor, as well. This at the end of a conversation where some detailed topics were brought up and discussed, to which the person in question blankly looked ahead, nodding every few minutes while adding nothing.
I do not care what political party you align yourself with. But please, for the love of God, have an understanding of WHY you believe that party/candidate to be the right choice.
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We are hardwired emotionaly to be a member of a human group and feel secure hearing what we want to hear from the membership. Once you belong, you will rationalise almost anything to maintain the comfort of your feelings and world view opposed to the pain and identity crisis incured in challenging ones own reality. This is why electorates are so hard on incombants who are felt to have dissipointed them but, like Robo Lemmings to those who keep them happy. Part of the reason McCain lost in 08 was all of the conservitive evangelistic electorate were dissipointed by Bush and enMass refused to vote because they saw McCain as Bush's 3rd term.
Right or wrong partisanship is a survival strategy evolved from being a member of a hunting band, tirbe, village, religion etc.
Our political affiliation and views are intertwined with our emotional need to belong. Not our rational choice to learn from past mistakes.
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While people have a desire to belong, I have also experienced that over the years, we (USA) have a tendency to personalize politics (mainly out of 'fear') making such discussions impossible (if rational conversation is the goal). Both parties have done a great job at manipulating peoples fear triggers to a point where topics can't be divorced from the messenger. I have experienced that in some cultures, talking politics is a normal conversation topic and not taboo, but when it is, people are able to distance the topic from the individual. Most of us tardlings can't even talk about a video game without personalizing it.
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In before the 2nd-amendment. :banana: :bolt:
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Its a disgrace the US says its a democracy but why am I not allowed to vote for the next President :old:
Zack, there are many locations in the US where you can vote for the next president -- Chicago is only one of many. ;)
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He said 'most people' - he couldn't have been referring to you, Oldman. You are a rare combination of congeniality, intelligence, and skill. You are not most people, I assure you.
<S>, sir!
In other words, OM doesn't fit in here :D
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I rang up the White-house and told them I owned a Ford car,ate McDonalds and paid a subscription to AH which thus contributes the the well being of the US :old:
They told me I had to be a American to vote, its a disgrace :old:
Actually it was one of the few things we do right. :P
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I'm curious,do politics spread lymes disease?
:salute
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I'm curious,do politics spread lymes disease?
Wrong parasites.
Bob
:salute
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I'm curious,do politics spread lymes disease?
:salute
I think thats "lies" disease :P
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I rang up the White-house and told them I owned a Ford car,ate McDonalds and paid a subscription to AH which thus contributes the the well being of the US :old:
They told me I had to be a American to vote, its a disgrace :old:
Then stop being an American't and work on becoming a citizen.
We'll take you gun shopping to celebrate once you're bonified.
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I think thats "lies" disease :P
:rofl :rofl
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I am voting for Roosevelt
FDR
afterall, it is 1944, isn't it :headscratch:
Butch :old:
LtngRydr
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Well.. its over now.
The USA now has its leader, and, as a foreigner, I really shouldn't have an opinion on this. But honestly, I believe the choice the USA made was the right choice... quite an ironic use of language that. The RIGHT choice.. hehe.
Can we get back to flying cartoon planes now?
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Its a disgrace the US says its a democracy but why am I not allowed to vote for the next President :old:
See Article 4, Section 4, United States Constitution.
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Always good to be reminded how ignorant I am. Thank you for lighting up my world.
- oldman
I LOL'd
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Well.. its over now.
The USA now has its leader, and, as a foreigner, I really shouldn't have an opinion on this. But honestly, I believe the choice the USA made was the right choice... quite an ironic use of language that. The RIGHT choice.. hehe.
Can we get back to flying cartoon planes now?
tsk tsk....
I'm glad it is over too.
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Even with the MOTD, text buffer rampant this A.M.
I didn't even bother to log in. Saw it on GTOGuy's screen.
Hope it stops. Doubt it will soon.
I got sick of it on TV, Radio & AH.
:cheers: Oz
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personally I enjoy reading all the moronic comments and the crying, it makes me feel much better about myself
it's going to get even sweeter in a few days, that's for sure :)
Yes, yes indeed it is
The tears on 200 are so yummy and sweet
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Yes, yes indeed it is
The tears on 200 are so yummy and sweet
Trolls are so cute.
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I think trolling is more like posting in an inflammatory way to try and get a reaction
Rather than enjoying the rage and unhappiness of people who are already inflamed
Schaudenfreude
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Meh.. you're right.
You're a trolling tool :old:
Now I've got it right. :aok
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Aww now I got hurt feelings :cry
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Boo.
I think you just slept on it wrong.
*edit*
Nice erection edit. Now I know you're a tool! :D
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Glad I still got time to get an Obamaphone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I79wUEqBdQc&feature=related).
:aok
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We are hardwired emotionaly to be a member of a human group and feel secure hearing what we want to hear from the membership. Once you belong, you will rationalise almost anything to maintain the comfort of your feelings and world view opposed to the pain and identity crisis incured in challenging ones own reality. This is why electorates are so hard on incombants who are felt to have dissipointed them but, like Robo Lemmings to those who keep them happy. Part of the reason McCain lost in 08 was all of the conservitive evangelistic electorate were dissipointed by Bush and enMass refused to vote because they saw McCain as Bush's 3rd term.
Right or wrong partisanship is a survival strategy evolved from being a member of a hunting band, tirbe, village, religion etc.
Our political affiliation and views are intertwined with our emotional need to belong. Not our rational choice to learn from past mistakes.
I absolutely and totally disagree with evey bit of this balderdash.