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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: titanic3 on November 07, 2012, 10:15:03 PM
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*Flame suit on*
Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat? :headscratch:
Not trying to start a flame war or a troll bait, but I ask that question everytime some one runs away and of course, no answer or "it's their $15". Ok fine, it's their $15, but then why spend it on this game to fly in circles in your ack/bail at first sight/fly 30 minutes to get killed by your own bomb/fly 30 minutes only to turn around the moment a red icon appear?
Just pure curiosity.
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It does get quite old and annoying, I am starting to get burnt out of it myself as well, when I get this new computer fully up and running Ill probably be taking quite a break from AH and/or playing little. The interest, the fun, the fight etc. are slowly dieing out with each Ram/Run/6v1/etc.
It also feels to be getting a bit repetitive ... Up, get a few kills, die in to a Multi vs. me situation, or occasionally if I can fend them off and win said Multi vs. me, land some kills. But more often than not it's up, get a few kills, get 4v1'ed, die. It is my poor reversals and/or SA that cause me to die in these situations I guess, but I'd rather go in at 8K in a K4 and turn with 1-3 and occasionally win than to sit at 20K in a hurri, brew, spit16, temp, etc etc etc and just pick a odd kill here or there. It is more fun, even dieing is, but after awhile of this same exact scenerio 4v1, 5v1, 6v1, ack run, etc. .... eh... I dunno, but I think a couple month break or whatever might renew some interest, and add the always fun challenge of knocking some rust off :)
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Best thing to do is to give them your 6 and bait them into the ownage bro :rock :rock
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Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat? :headscratch:
Score.
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Score.
I gotta agree, Score.
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Score :rofl
Me and JimmyC chased a 190 down for ages, his mates came in to save him, it went on for ages :old:
And then we saw a Stuka at 3k and left the 190 and proper fetled the Stuka, it was good fun.
Yes Shida is right its score, if you look in the ranks the top ones are the people who run away :old:
I always run away but it never works I have to turn round and get fetled.
Shida likes slip on shoes and pot porri by the way :old:
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Oh boy, sounds like you have fallen into my illness.
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80\20 Rules of Aces High Air Combat.
80% Rule 1 - Survival at all costs is it's own reason.
20% Rule 1 - Fighting is it's own reward.
80% Rule 2 - The means of survival justifies the choice and it's abuse.
20% Rule 2 - The means of the fight is the measure of the pilot.
80% Rule 3 - That I survived is it's own reward.
20% Rule 3 - How I died is as important as how I survived.
80% Rule 4 - Dieing is unacceptable.
20% Rule 4 - Unlimited revenge waits in the hanger.
80% Rule 5 - I'm not as good as you so anything I do to you is acceptable to me.
20% Rule 5 - Oh gawd, another HOing, hoarding runtard.
Universal truths about group combat games.
Everyone beleives they are part of the 20%.
The 20% act just as bad as the 80% and justify it publicly as a perogitive of being a 20%.
The 80% act just as bad as the 20% and never publicly justify it driving the 20% nutz.
The 20% are the loudest complainers concerning the correct way to play the game via individual special skills and the 80% lack of.
The 80% couldn't care less and generaly dominate the local venue visa large coalitions requiring no special skills.
Everyone 80% or 20% derives personal intense pleasure in defeating other players. For that moment you in your mind are better than one other person in the universe while the how or why of it are irrelavent. Unfortunatly like getting laid, it's a one time event and you have to continualy hustel someone to get it again.
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Kids, its the point shoot and get a kill at any cost and be sure to not die..cause this is real! gamer mentality,and its getting worse.
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Everyone 80% or 20% derives personal intense pleasure in defeating other players. For that moment you in your mind are better than one other person in the universe while the how or why of it are irrelavent. Unfortunatly like getting laid, it's a one time event and you have to continualy hustel someone to get it again.
I love it all, but this is my favorite part.
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One thing I like about Aces High is the 'law of the jungle' aspect of it. One thing channel 200 or this BBS proves is that you cannot through campaigning, complaining, whining, crying what-have-you alter the way people play, YOU must adapt and try to find what you are looking for in your own way. Can be difficult.
The question was why do people evade combat and I think it's a combination of score and ego. It is much easier on the ego to break away and extend, run to ack, to friends, call for help, or come back to kill the fellow that got a shot on you through superior skill when he is busy fighting someone else, than it is to accept your limitations and your defeat. After all the score is recorded the same as if you beat the guy in a straight up fight.
We are living in a predominantly narcissistic cultural and this is the subculture / balance which has evolved here.
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Shida likes slip on shoes and pot porri by the way :old:
I told you never to mention that! :old:
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Some people think score matters. They want a good score but don't want to put forth any effort to be rightfully rewarded that good score, or even try to improve their skills. What they don't know is that you can fight any number of opponents in any situation and still have a "good score", and as an added benefit you will become a better pilot! I know this very well because I have over 4 times more deaths than sorties landed this tour with barley a 1.0 K/D ratio, and HTC has given me a rank of 25 (17 at one point) :headscratch:
If you find someone running there is a very fun way to trick them into a fight. Make a slow turn as if you are breaking off the engagement. Count 2-3 seconds and roll back into them. You'll either get a perfect snapshot or be in perfect position to turn onto your 6 about 400 yards or closer. Works just about all the time, and can fool the same guy more than once sometimes. :lol
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Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible
Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.
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Oh boy, sounds like you have fallen into my illness.
So it seems.
Some people think score matters. They want a good score but don't want to put forth any effort to be rightfully rewarded that good score, or even try to improve their skills. What they don't know is that you can fight any number of opponents in any situation and still have a "good score", and as an added benefit you will become a better pilot! I know this very well because I have over 4 times more deaths than sorties landed this tour with barley a 1.0 K/D ratio, and HTC has given me a rank of 25 (17 at one point) :headscratch:
If you find someone running there is a very fun way to trick them into a fight. Make a slow turn as if you are breaking off the engagement. Count 2-3 seconds and roll back into them. You'll either get a perfect snapshot or be in perfect position to turn onto your 6 about 400 yards or closer. Works just about all the time, and can fool the same guy more than once sometimes. :lol
I have done that a few times but if you miss the snapshot, they keep on running. I literally saw a guy make one pass at me in a Tempest, dive away from 15K to the deck and into his base to land. Seriously, what the hell is the point of that? And I agree with your point about score. I made a self pledge not to run unless out of ammo, out of fuel or damage beyond fighting condition (half a wing, PW, stuck flaps, anything else and I'll fight), my K/D is poo for it but I still somehow have a sub 20 fighter rank. Meanwhile, I took a look at one of the most timid player I have ever seen, name begins with H, ends in I and is a part of Jokers Jokers, who has zero deaths but has a rank of 190 something. What's the point of that? They don't get the score they want AND they still fly like a girl.
Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible
Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.
So what about 1v1s? Do you avoid them because you don't have someone helping you out? Why?
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Player titanic3 did not fly in Late War Tour 152
Player titanic3 did not fly in Late War Tour 153
Player titanic3 did not fly in Late War Tour 154
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And this is not a thread asking people to change the way they play, it's a thread asking why? It's already shown if you want score, then it's not the best way to get it, so then why do it?
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:headscratch:
Im currently TitanMD in game. Did not fly last tour or the tour before (I think), if I did, it was under BackHand, CoolWhip, TitanSTD and TitanMD, Titan, respectively. You can look it up. I have none or almost none bomber sorties, Or GVs. Fighters and the occasional Attack is all I fly. Everytime, I was under the sub 50 fighter rank.
Edit: Tour 151 was the only tour I flew as BackHand. Before that was Daddkev's account, which he lent to me while I was looking for a job.
Fighter Ranks:
Tour 151 - 21
Tour 150 - 17
Tour 149 - 8
148 - 18
147 - 13
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So what about 1v1s? Do you avoid them because you don't have someone helping you out? Why?
I dont avoid 1v1. I tend to watch then react, rather than let the red mist descend upon me. It all depends on the situation.
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I dont avoid 1v1. I tend to watch then react, rather than let the red mist descend upon me. It all depends on the situation.
Red mist?...but it's a 1v1... :headscratch:
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I literally saw a guy make one pass at me in a Tempest, dive away from 15K to the deck and into his base to land. Seriously, what the hell is the point of that?
Last time i did that, it was because i was out of ammo.
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Last time i did that, it was because i was out of ammo.
With zero kills? -_-
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@RTHolmes Since you're looking up statistics... Some of us have call signs in the game that are completely different from out forum name. So if you want to look up stats you'll need to know our call sign. For example, I fly as "topjmy" these days.
Why? Well, I can only speak for myself. My forum account was created August 02, 2008, but I've had three different subscriptions to AH in the time since then. I don't want and don't need to start a new forum account each time I return to AH.
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With zero kills? -_-
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Ditto to you titanic3
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Ditto to you titanic3
Didn't mean you, meant the Tempest I was talking about. :noid
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I've lost count of the times over the years ive seen people lose their heads whenever they see a con. All SA goes out of the window, check 6's get ignored. Boom, dead.
1v1's never stay 1v1 for very long. Getting a kill asap or getting killed just as quickly doesnt appeal to me. I'm patient. I can wait for my kill. A handful of assists with a successful rtb is worth more to me than 2/3 kills and a death. My SA isnt perfect by any means, though I have developed a very good awareness of what every single visible icon is doing or likely to do. I like my immersion, enjoy lulling low eny/perk rides into a fight with my A8.
Now i'm rook this tour. Still looking forward to fighting hymi, as a result I now dive on spits a lot. Have possibly merged with him, infact. Those spixteens are slippery, but I always fight MY fight.
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Didn't mean you, meant the Tempest I was talking about. :noid
Fair enough. Could be his plane took damage? Just guessing.
My inclination would be to refuel and re-up if i my systems were all good.
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I've lost count of the times over the years ive seen people lose their heads whenever they see a con. All SA goes out of the window, check 6's get ignored. Boom, dead.
1v1's never stay 1v1 for very long. Getting a kill asap or getting killed just as quickly doesnt appeal to me. I'm patient. I can wait for my kill. A handful of assists with a successful rtb is worth more to me than 2/3 kills and a death. My SA isnt perfect by any means, though I have developed a very good awareness of what every single visible icon is doing or likely to do. I like my immersion, enjoy lulling low eny/perk rides into a fight with my A8.
Now i'm rook this tour. Still looking forward to fighting hymi, as a result I now dive on spits a lot. Have possibly merged with him, infact. Those spixteens are slippery, but I always fight MY fight.
My SA is not perfect (no one is), but I've been in plenty of 1 vs x-amount, that my SA hasn't failed me yet. When I get killed, I know what killed me and I could see it coming. Avoiding it is the problem when there are too many and some one will eventually find the right angle on you. But then that's the fun of it. I respect some one who fights a 1 v 2 or more and survive more than I do someone who lands 20 kills. And there is always a chance for survival, regardless the amount of enemy planes involved. So why not take that chance? You have an unlimited amount of lives in this game.
People who tries to run yet they know they'll be caught anyway confuses me even more. Why not just fight instead? At least then you'll HAVE a chance of survival rather than being straight and level on the deck.
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Disengaging is not necessarily a bad thing. Pulling 1 or 2 away from a furball to increase the odds for your country can sway the fight, and often does. Secondly, with plenty of speed in my A8, I'm still dangerous on the defensive. Its a good indicator of enemy pilot skill when you see them break off immediately or press the attack. I like to know who i am fighting, its as important to me as the plane type.
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Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible
we are apparently playing exactly the same game :aok
Titan, I dont think its possible to get a consistent sub-25 fighter rank without being strategic/careful in one way or another. I havent checked but I very much doubt that your style involves flying a P40E or C202 into the biggest bunch of bad guys you can find regardless of E-state or friendly support. but that is the point - there is a massive range of skill in the game, and almost as many games being played as there are players.
your tempy may have been out of fuel/ammo/luck, it may have been a noob using (and trying to protect) his first 50 fighter perks, he may have been bounced by 3 D ponies so high that you didnt see em, he may have a pw and was trying to sneak another kill while rtb, he could be going for a PB kill streak, he might be taking sustained wifeack to do some chores, there could be a 100 reasons ...
a guy runs ... so what? you neutralised the threat, move on to the next bad guy.
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come in higher and chase them down, give them your 6 and make them feel they are chasing you both work for me.
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This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether.
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This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether.
You're beating your head against a wall here. There is a vocal minority of really good TnB/Energy fighters that cry anytime their superior armed/turning aircraft can't catch someone.
If you roll into a fight against an opponent with superior skills while they have the advantage only THEN can you be considered a "worthy opponent". Bide your time, play to the strengths of your aircraft (almost specifically if it is a BnZ plane) and wait for the caterwauling.
Almost without exception, every whine of "Why won't people fight?!" REALLY means "Why won't people stand still so I can shoot them with my cannons?"
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This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether.
So a spit16 running from a 109g6 after not being able to BnZ me to death is "logical flying"? Oh well.
Almost without exception, every whine of "Why won't people fight?!" REALLY means "Why won't people stand still so I can shoot them with my cannons?"
Are you really this stupid by nature or actively training yourself?
Look, this Titan guy pays to find fun and combat - a fight. He has more spirit than the majority as he tryes something else but up the fastest plane and center the stick - yes, he sucks.
Anyway, as far as i know he isnt a spixteen warrior or something. Be patient with him.
And also, Titan, all i can say, avoid the boring arse crowd, only play with those who will give you what you want. Otherwise, youre doomed - just look at me.
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Are you really this stupid by nature or actively training yourself?
See Rule #4
And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!
Because for me to fight the fight you want me to fight... which is a sustained turning engagement in a fighter that is roundly outclassed as such... well, then I really WOULD have to be "this stupid by nature".
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I dont get very many negative pm's or comments on 200. Although when I do its because I won the psychological fight, I won it my way rather than their way. No amount of stick twiddling can compensate for that. Doubly delicious.
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I dont get very many negative pm's or comments on 200. Although when I do its because I won the psychological fight, I won it my way rather than their way. No amount of stick twiddling can compensate for that. Doubly delicious.
200 is where the real action happens... really it's only Dolby that can get me to drunken rage on 200... <S> Dolby... for both your ACM and your Psy-Ops.
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And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!
This more pertains to exploiting your aircraft's advantage, not to not fighting.
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I must say that you spoke well here and I agree 100 %.
Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible
Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.
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See Rule #4
And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!
Because for me to fight the fight you want me to fight... which is a sustained turning engagement in a fighter that is roundly outclassed as such... well, then I really WOULD have to be "this stupid by nature".
Another super-intelligent comment by the mighty one :rolleyes: Otherwise i would take a look on the next rule before throwing it out ;)
Anyway, if i knew nothing more than sustained turning, please, explain it to me, how the devil can a Dora outmaneuver a spixteen at stall speeds?
No kidding, ask Tracers1. And yea, those were the most fun fights, even though i got killed much more than how many times i got him.
At least i had balls to do anything else but center my stick and hit the wep. Cheers, newbie.
And btw, i was perfectly happy when i had the chance to fly against one who turned with my Dora, even when i lost. Some needed the spit to get me, for someone else a pony was needed, and there were many i couldnt kill in a same planes duel situation. The point is, they gave me a fight, exactly what i wanted, therefore i feel nothing but respect towards them. And yea youre not one of those.
Dont even try to call out my ego by being a big mouth - no skill, i wont sink down to your level.
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Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat?
I think your question suffers from a lack of definition of "combat". Your question comes across something like "I don't understand why people play baseball when all they do is avoid baseball" Your basically saying that anyone who does the behavior you say your interested in understanding is not playing correctly and is hypocritical. If you want to engender a truthful response you might want to back off on the implied judgement and define your terms a little more. The circular answer to your question is that people play the game the way they do because they like it. Would you be happier if there were rules or game structure that made the game only playable the way you enjoy it? I'm not being snotty, I sometimes think I would be, but I do think its a compromise and the more that you can offer the bigger the player population.
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Best thing to do is to give them your 6 and bait them into the ownage bro :rock :rock
It's pretty much the only way to get alot of them to commit... these days I'm finding that you actually have to give them a shot on you just to get them close enough so they cant run away... and here lately the timids have got me a few times, but if they miss.... :devil :rock
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This more pertains to exploiting your aircraft's advantage, not to not fighting.
I ABSOLUTELY agree, sir. The problem here lies in the fact that a lot of these "stay and fight" whines are calling anything that isn't turning, running.
I am not saying that pick and run drivers aren't to be derided or at least ostracized, but Derpbrody doesn't limit his constant and incessant bickering and carrying on to that behavior.
He will call pick and run, gang, kill steal, etc when it is plainly not the case.
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Hehe
i never ran - only extended (til i found 3 buddies muwhaha, then i turned back, stfu beyotch!)
i never gang - just take usage of the overwhelming numerical superiority (and those 3-5-10 buddies i ran to, like a girl)
i never ho - that was a deflection shot you bitch (anyway it takes 2 to ho and you hoed first anyways)
i pwned you! - hey 4 ponies BnZing a deck Dora for 10 mins before the first ping gets his pilot is pure ownage, isnt it? You died, you suck!
Oh boy... you are trying so hard, but keeping your nose as high, cant see the mirror in front of you.
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I ABSOLUTELY agree, sir. The problem here lies in the fact that a lot of these "stay and fight" whines are calling anything that isn't turning, running.
I am not saying that pick and run drivers aren't to be derided or at least ostracized, but Derpbrody doesn't limit his constant and incessant bickering and carrying on to that behavior.
He will call pick and run, gang, kill steal, etc when it is plainly not the case.
The devil is in the details I suppose. I don't consider extending from a fight where you've lost all possibility to press the attack far enough away that you can come back with energy renewed to essentially re-engage on your terms the same fight. This is quite different from what I consider BnZing. There aren't that many that do this well, and sometimes they are Mustang pilots. When I fight them it really is the strengths of your aircraft and your skills against mine and there are no complaints with those kind of fights!
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There are a lot of different things to consider when you think about this perceived gameplay issue.
I think the bottom line is that very few people are happy to die in the majority of their sorties. Most people like to stay alive if possible.
For a lot of veteran gamer types the ingrained negative association of dying in a computer game is hard to get away from, even if you know intellectually that having some fun fights is a more worthwhile and enjoyable use of your time.
If you fly every sortie as Redbull describes in the 2nd post of this thread, engaging indiscriminately and not trying to survive through an alt/E advantage, or not caring about the wider SA picture and letting yourself get outnumbered, even the best pilots in the game (who are a very small subset of the active game population) will die most of the time.
Very few people are happy with that kind of experience in AH - especially when you consider that most (not all...but most) of the other players do not respect this kind of play. You will get HOd, ganged mercilessly, people will run away from you when they can because they have a different objective to you.
In fact I think that posts like Redbull's, Titan's, Debrody's and those from other die hard, fight at all costs-types, show that a lot of the time they find it hard to enjoy this playstyle as well, because of the fact that 90% of other pilots will not play ball, and continue to fly by their own 'survival/score is paramount' agenda.
Personally, I like to think I take a middle of the road kind of approach...I am willing to have a proper fight with someone, but if doing so means that I will be putting myself at risk of being picked or ganged then I will BnZ/extend/run as necessary. This is just intelligent tactics to me, not cowardice.
If I engage every con I see in a 'fair' fight and ignore the wider SA picture I will die in almost every sortie - by being ganged, HO'd, or picked just when I have my opponents 6 - and I simply don't find that fun. I imagine a lot of people probably feel the same.
Some people as we all know take this to extremes and are just ridiculously timid. Just point and laugh at them and move on, because you're never going to change them.
:salute
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Hehe
i never ran - only extended (til i found 3 buddies muwhaha, then i turned back, stfu beyotch!)
i never gang - just take usage of the overwhelming numerical superiority (and those 3-5-10 buddies i ran to, like a girl)
i never ho - that was a deflection shot you bitch (anyway it takes 2 to ho and you hoed first anyways)
i pwned you! - hey 4 ponies BnZing a deck Dora for 10 mins before the first ping gets his pilot is pure ownage, isnt it? You died, you suck!
Oh boy... you are trying so hard, but keeping your nose as high, cant see the mirror in front of you.
Derp, you're the best sir.
(http://s11.postimage.org/o9ujpo577/iamthebestlookatme.jpg)
You can't even speak the truth, let alone formulate a coherent, valid point.
I have no idea who you are talking about, because it isn't me or anyone I fly with.
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There are a lot of different things to consider when you think about this perceived gameplay issue.
I think the bottom line is that very few people are happy to die in the majority of their sorties. Most people like to stay alive if possible.
For a lot of veteran gamer types the ingrained negative association of dying in a computer game is hard to get away from, even if you know intellectually that having some fun fights is a more worthwhile and enjoyable use of your time.
If you fly every sortie as Redbull describes in the 2nd post of this thread, engaging indiscriminately and not trying to survive through an alt/E advantage, or not caring about the wider SA picture and letting yourself get outnumbered, even the best pilots in the game (who are a very small subset of the active game population) will die most of the time.
Very few people are happy with that kind of experience in AH - especially when you consider that most (not all...but most) of the other players do not respect this kind of play. You will get HOd, ganged mercilessly, people will run away from you when they can because they have a different objective to you.
In fact I think that posts like Redbull's, Titan's, Debrody's and those from other die hard, fight at all costs-types, show that a lot of the time they find it hard to enjoy this playstyle as well, because of the fact that 90% of other pilots will not play ball, and continue to fly by their own 'survival/score is paramount' agenda.
Personally, I like to think I take a middle of the road kind of approach...I am willing to have a proper fight with someone, but if doing so means that I will be putting myself at risk of being picked or ganged then I will BnZ/extend/run as necessary. This is just intelligent tactics to me, not cowardice.
If I engage every con I see in a 'fair' fight and ignore the wider SA picture I will die in almost every sortie - by being ganged, HO'd, or picked just when I have my opponents 6 - and I simply don't find that fun. I imagine a lot of people probably feel the same.
Some people as we all know take this to extremes and are just ridiculously timid. Just point and laugh at them and move on, because you're never going to change them.
:salute
Well said :aok
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Just laughing on you, little trollio. Keep on trying, no way you can offend me.
Also no way you can cheat the truth.
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The question was why do people evade combat and I think it's a combination of score and ego. It is much easier on the ego to break away and extend, run to ack, to friends, call for help, or come back to kill the fellow that got a shot on you through superior skill when he is busy fighting someone else, than it is to accept your limitations and your defeat. After all the score is recorded the same as if you beat the guy in a straight up fight.
We are living in a predominantly narcissistic cultural and this is the subculture / balance which has evolved here.
Said from a true 1st person account of the extend until help gets here and wait until you have the absolute advantage.
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Just laughing on you, little trollio. Keep on trying, no way you can offend me.
Also no way you can cheat the truth.
We've literally never fought, dude. At least going by the G6/D9/262 combo you seem to gravitate towards.
I have just listened to you go off on people I know and respect both on the forum and in the game.
I would ask you to DA but it would be a waste of your time and you're probably too advanced for me to learn much.
I DA for 3 reasons:
1. First and foremost to learn, so just getting my bellybutton handed to me isn't worth my time - I can do that in any arena, and faster.
2. To give someone the opportunity to kick the crap out of me for the stuff I say on 200/forum.
3. To find out if someone is really a jerk or a class act. The vast majority of the time, I find players are super awesome 1v1 on VOX and text.
So, if we're both on and you have the time and inclination, I would be all over getting schooled.
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Said from a true 1st person account of the extend until help gets here and wait until you have the absolute advantage.
What do you mean Surfinn?
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Hehe
i never ran - only extended (til i found 3 buddies muwhaha, then i turned back, stfu beyotch!)
i never gang - just take usage of the overwhelming numerical superiority (and those 3-5-10 buddies i ran to, like a girl)
i never ho - that was a deflection shot you bitch (anyway it takes 2 to ho and you hoed first anyways)
i pwned you! - hey 4 ponies BnZing a deck Dora for 10 mins before the first ping gets his pilot is pure ownage, isnt it? You died, you suck!
Oh boy... you are trying so hard, but keeping your nose as high, cant see the mirror in front of you.
Thought you quit because Dutchguy beat you in the DA?
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Thought you quit because Dutchguy beat you in the DA?
Are you serious?
But nope, im not playing under any name.
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Are you serious?
But nope, im not playing under any name.
Yes.
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Getting back to the original post... there are three basic modes of engagements of a dogfight that have been mantra for almost a hundred years.
1. If I'm engaging a target and it's a close matchup - I'll stick it in till someone makes a mistake.
2. If I'm obviously loosing the fight - I'll disengage and run and then return at an energy advantage or with different tactics.
3. If I can't run, I fight to the death and hope my opponent makes a mistake. If not, die with honour.
What else is there to say or do?
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Is this where the fighter pilots report in? :neener:
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Nope, the bar is this way.
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:rofl :rofl :bhead :bhead :furious :furious :bhead :bhead :rofl :rofl
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*Flame suit on*
Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat? :headscratch:
Not trying to start a flame war or a troll bait, but I ask that question everytime some one runs away and of course, no answer or "it's their $15". Ok fine, it's their $15, but then why spend it on this game to fly in circles in your ack/bail at first sight/fly 30 minutes to get killed by your own bomb/fly 30 minutes only to turn around the moment a red icon appear?
Just pure curiosity.
You want pure comedy these days look in MW. It has deteriorated to nothing but perk farmers.