Why?

[whiteman]

come in higher and chase them down, give them your 6 and make them feel they are chasing you both work for me.

[Condor11]

This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether. 

[tunnelrat]

This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether. 

You're beating your head against a wall here.  There is a vocal minority of really good TnB/Energy fighters that cry anytime their superior armed/turning aircraft can't catch someone.

If you roll into a fight against an opponent with superior skills while they have the advantage only THEN can you be considered a "worthy opponent".  Bide your time, play to the strengths of your aircraft (almost specifically if it is a BnZ plane) and wait for the caterwauling.

Almost without exception, every whine of "Why won't people fight?!" REALLY means "Why won't people stand still so I can shoot them with my cannons?"

[Debrody]

This being a combat sim computer game, i assume with a question like that you think combat is all attack attack attack hmmm? Fighting logically means you sometimes realise the smart decision is to avoid the engagement altogether. 

So a spit16 running from a 109g6 after not being able to BnZ me to death is "logical flying"? Oh well.

Almost without exception, every whine of "Why won't people fight?!" REALLY means "Why won't people stand still so I can shoot them with my cannons?"

Are you really this stupid by nature or actively training yourself?

Look, this Titan guy pays to find fun and combat - a fight. He has more spirit than the majority as he tryes something else but up the fastest plane and center the stick - yes, he sucks.
Anyway, as far as i know he isnt a spixteen warrior or something. Be patient with him.
And also, Titan, all i can say, avoid the boring arse crowd, only play with those who will give you what you want. Otherwise, youre doomed - just look at me.

[tunnelrat]

Are you really this stupid by nature or actively training yourself?

See Rule #4

And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!

Because for me to fight the fight you want me to fight... which is a sustained turning engagement in a fighter that is roundly outclassed as such...  well, then I really WOULD have to be "this stupid by nature".

[minke]

I dont get very many negative pm's or comments on 200. Although when I do its because I won the psychological fight, I won it my way rather than their way. No amount of stick twiddling can compensate for that. Doubly delicious.

[tunnelrat]

I dont get very many negative pm's or comments on 200. Although when I do its because I won the psychological fight, I won it my way rather than their way. No amount of stick twiddling can compensate for that. Doubly delicious.

200 is where the real action happens...  really it's only Dolby that can get me to drunken rage on 200... <S> Dolby... for both your ACM and your Psy-Ops.

[nrshida]

And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!

This more pertains to exploiting your aircraft's advantage, not to not fighting.

[Sg11]

I must say that you spoke well here and I agree 100 %.
Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible

Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.

[Debrody]

See Rule #4

And when you are done, I will make you a deal, good sir: If you don't use your cannons, or turn beyond my Bravo's ability to turn, I will not utilize my speed advantage!

Because for me to fight the fight you want me to fight... which is a sustained turning engagement in a fighter that is roundly outclassed as such...  well, then I really WOULD have to be "this stupid by nature".

Another super-intelligent comment by the mighty one      Otherwise i would take a look on the next rule before throwing it out  
Anyway, if i knew nothing more than sustained turning, please, explain it to me, how the devil can a Dora outmaneuver a spixteen at stall speeds?
No kidding, ask Tracers1. And yea, those were the most fun fights, even though i got killed much more than how many times i got him.
At least i had balls to do anything else but center my stick and hit the wep. Cheers, newbie.

And btw, i was perfectly happy when i had the chance to fly against one who turned with my Dora, even when i lost. Some needed the spit to get me, for someone else a pony was needed, and there were many i couldnt kill in a same planes duel situation. The point is, they gave me a fight, exactly what i wanted, therefore i feel nothing but respect towards them. And yea youre not one of those.
Dont even try to call out my ego by being a big mouth - no skill, i wont sink down to your level.

[pembquist]

Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat?  

I think your question suffers from a lack of definition of "combat".  Your question comes across something like "I don't understand why people play baseball when all they do is avoid baseball" Your basically saying that anyone who does the behavior you say your interested in understanding is not playing correctly and is hypocritical.  If you want to engender a truthful response you might want to back off on the implied judgement and define your terms a little more.  The circular answer to your question is that people play the game the way they do because they like it.  Would you be happier if there were rules or game structure that made the game only playable the way you enjoy it? I'm not being snotty, I sometimes think I would be, but I do think its a compromise and the more that you can offer the bigger the player population.
  

[SkyRock]

Best thing to do is to give them your 6 and bait them into the ownage bro

It's pretty much the only way to get alot of them to commit... these days I'm finding that you actually have to give them a shot on you just to get them close enough so they cant run away... and here lately the timids have got me a few times, but if they miss....         

[tunnelrat]

This more pertains to exploiting your aircraft's advantage, not to not fighting.

I ABSOLUTELY agree, sir.  The problem here lies in the fact that a lot of these "stay and fight" whines are calling anything that isn't turning, running.

I am not saying that pick and run drivers aren't to be derided or at least ostracized, but Derpbrody doesn't limit his constant and incessant bickering and carrying on to that behavior.

He will call pick and run, gang, kill steal, etc when it is plainly not the case.

[Debrody]

Hehe
i never ran - only extended (til i found 3 buddies muwhaha, then i turned back, stfu beyotch!)
i never gang - just take usage of the overwhelming numerical superiority (and those 3-5-10 buddies i ran to, like a girl)
i never ho - that was a deflection shot you bitch (anyway it takes 2 to ho and you hoed first anyways)
i pwned you! - hey 4 ponies BnZing a deck Dora for 10 mins before the first ping gets his pilot is pure ownage, isnt it? You died, you suck!

Oh boy... you are trying so hard, but keeping your nose as high, cant see the mirror in front of you.

[nrshida]

I ABSOLUTELY agree, sir.  The problem here lies in the fact that a lot of these "stay and fight" whines are calling anything that isn't turning, running.

I am not saying that pick and run drivers aren't to be derided or at least ostracized, but Derpbrody doesn't limit his constant and incessant bickering and carrying on to that behavior.

He will call pick and run, gang, kill steal, etc when it is plainly not the case.

The devil is in the details I suppose. I don't consider extending from a fight where you've lost all possibility to press the attack far enough away that you can come back with energy renewed to essentially re-engage on your terms the same fight. This is quite different from what I consider BnZing. There aren't that many that do this well, and sometimes they are Mustang pilots. When I fight them it really is the strengths of your aircraft and your skills against mine and there are no complaints with those kind of fights!