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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: hlbly on November 08, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
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To win or learn ? I remember when people debated/argued to learn, seems most folks want to win . I have only been involved in a few discussions with different points of view where I did not learn something ,at this bbs . Good example is here .
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,338341.msg4506311.html#msg4506311 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,338341.msg4506311.html#msg4506311)
I had a misconception or two going in and I learned something from mountain man . Question is . Is this impression wrong ? Do people still debate to learn ? Or is it to win ?
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You can tell a good debate when the opponents take the time to listen and form a proper response.
Every good debater plays to win though.
And Master Baters are great at stroking the audience.
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You can tell a good debate when the opponents take the time to listen and form a proper response.
Every good debater plays to win though.
And Master Baters are great at stroking the audience.
Got to disagree . My main point is to learn . My education is not very good . There are some excellent minds with great educations around here . I seldom if ever change any minds around here . I have changed mine on more than one occasion due to cogent arguments . One topic I was thinking about was my years long rant on force feedback . I did not change a single mind . It took another person with much better credentials to change minds . Even though we said the same thing .
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I won't lie..any time I argue it's probably because I think the other person is wrong and therefor I want to win :old:
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I have changed mine on more than one occasion due to cogent arguments .
Your debate partner won.
Don't enter a debate with a weak stance. (Guilty)
A wise old lady once told me this... "Never dismiss anyone."
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OMG, look what the cat dragged in :banana:
One topic I was thinking about was my years long rant on force feedback . I did not change a single mind . It took another person with much better credentials to change minds . Even though we said the same thing .
Perhaps but you were still correct and the other party wrong. Them not conceding that has more to do with status and prestige and that is less admirable / honest than those who are prepared to be seen to be wrong in search of the truth.
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Your debate partner won.
Don't enter a debate with a weak stance. (Guilty)
A wise old lady once told me this... "Never dismiss anyone."
I don't think either of us would look at it that way . Let's compare what he does on bbs with in game actions . A win at any cost guy will horde , pick , ho, etc . Does mntman do that ? I have never seen it . Does he belittle ,humiliate or make personal attacks here ? I have only seen him present well reasoned arguments . Last thing to consider , his being a trainer . To me that seems to indicate a teacher .
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OMG, look what the cat dragged in :banana:
Perhaps but you were still correct and the other party wrong. Them not conceding that has more to do with status and prestige and that is less admirable / honest than those who are prepared to be seen to be wrong in search of the truth.
And the dog wouldn't take back out . I will be up early am looking for ya my brother .
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Argument and Debate are two separate things.
While there may be some argument in a debate, there is seldom any debate in an argument.
Kind of funny how that works eh?
RTR
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Would anyone like to have an argument with me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
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How can you have a argument in cartoon land :old:
I have never lost a single argument on these forums and I never will and I am a idiot :rofl
Ask NRShida I am a complete idiot :old:
"Wikaidiot" is the basis of argument for the majority of people on these forums.
I am on Wikapedia, I have apparently written a book about Soul music, it even has a ISBN number. :) (I only found out when someone ask me for a copy of said book)
"Debate" grow-up :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Hibly smells by the way :rofl
Are we getting the Yak3?
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Is this the five minute argument, or the full half hour?
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How dare you how have you come this conclusion and what is your evidence :old:
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Is this the five minute argument, or the full half hour?
Both.
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I didn't even know I was in contravention of military protocol but my post was deleted by a a serving officer in the US military. Which was funny because I never served in the US military but he deleted the post because it might have contravened the rules in the Irish military which I left 18 years ago.
I'm almost flattered.
Yet I almost understand. :salute
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I have never lost a single argument on these forums and I never will and I am a idiot :rofl
Ask NRShida I am a complete idiot :old:
Or completely eccentric genius? We're still trying to decide.
There is also discussion, which often seems hard to sustain on this forum.
Why did my friend Melvin get PNGed? I was exchanging messages with him and suddenly he was gone. I don't have his email address, it is most inconvenient. :frown:
I pwned Zack's Typhoon in my Ki-84 once. :old:
Hlbly are you still alive? Discuss...