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Title: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: chaser on November 10, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
It's seriously out of control. I died probably 15 times tonight because my round would go through. Those black panzers could drive right up to my M4 and I would put 2-3 rounds through them, all passing through and hitting the ground behind them. It happened over and over on the broad side of the black panzers from less than 200 yds. I'm fed up with this chit. Fix it, or I'm done. I'm not going to continue to pay money for crappy gameplay.
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2012, 08:08:29 PM
I guess you didn't learn anything from HiTech's comments after your first thread about this.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: chaser on November 10, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
I guess you didn't learn anything from HiTech's comments after your first thread about this.

ack-ack

So your saying that the side skirts that don't exist on the Panzer F are causing this?

I'm hitting these panzers and 90 degree angles and my rounds go right through. HTC can deny it all they want and make excuses, but there's and obvious problem.

Just like they deny that there was a problem with ditching on my own pavement. They denied it and I proved them wrong.
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Lusche on November 10, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
A mix of assumptions, stubborness, threads and thinly veiled insults, while ignoring the recommended procedures for such problems, is certainly the way to go. I can already see HT throwing himself to your feet and begging you for forgiveness.




Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: 68ZooM on November 10, 2012, 09:02:50 PM
Another whine has been recorded
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: RedBull1 on November 10, 2012, 09:37:40 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: DMGOD on November 10, 2012, 10:28:51 PM
Don't let the door hit ya. Where the good lord spilt ya

lol I love how people threaten to take their entire 16 cents a day away
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: MrKrabs on November 10, 2012, 11:09:04 PM
A mix of assumptions, stubborness, threads and thinly veiled insults, while ignoring the recommended procedures for such problems, is certainly the way to go. I can already see HT throwing himself to your feet and begging you for forgiveness.






And this must be the 5 MILLIONTH time Lord Snail has said this...
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: ebfd11 on November 10, 2012, 11:35:52 PM
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Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: phatzo on November 10, 2012, 11:52:31 PM
Tanks are just targets, don't get too wound up over them. The ground game is iffy in all aspects.
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Daddkev on November 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
 :neener: :neener: :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :old: :old:
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Molsman on November 11, 2012, 12:04:38 AM
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sorry out of service on the whammmmmmmmmbulance request
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: matt on November 11, 2012, 01:24:51 AM
grab a tiger2
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Mano on November 11, 2012, 01:44:43 AM
Something changed in one of the latest updates. I fire 85 mm Hvap shells from the late model t-34 at the front armor of panzer F's and panzer H's and I am getting ricochets or the shots appear to go straight through with no apparent damage. I kill Panther G's and Tiger 1's with a single shot to the rear flank but I cannot kill a Panzer IV? Something has changed with the damage model for theses two tanks. I can kill them every time with one shot to the flank but not to their front armor. I can kill Tiger 2's with two shots to the flank. Chaser has a good argument. Something is wrong. The 85 mm Hvap has always killed all tanks close up with one shot. It might be a connection issue on my part, but many players have talked about this during game play. I hope htc will look into this issue. I really enjoy tanks in AH and believe they have the best Ww2 game online bar none.

 :salute
Mano
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: kvuo75 on November 11, 2012, 01:46:04 AM
grab a tiger2


or an IL2 or Hurri-D. Or a stuka.. or anything with a bomb on it!

kill the gv's from the air. then someone will come and kill the guys killing the gv's.. etc. etc. etc.

Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: bangsbox on November 11, 2012, 02:56:47 AM
My summation is 2 things one panzer h and p have a thick plate in front hull (aim high or lower and they die right away). 2 if round goes through and it doesn't die u didn't hit anything important. Also have u posted a vid in "bugs" I know you may think that it only hides prob from gen. Public but players do look at that thread and see if thy have same prob and will join your complaint. You can try offline and record it for submission to make duplication easier. Hope this helps. Personally I've bounced plenty of panther ap rounds off that thick plate on the front of panzer h's even at rather close range. I little up or down kills them easy.
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: DR7 on November 11, 2012, 08:21:51 AM
Sorry to say but, I see this all the time.  Not rounds going through a tank.  But players jumping on an excuse.  On the problem of rounds going through a tank I can say I may have seen this happen once.  Well, that was my excuse on missing a shot.  With the amount of shots I take if a problem exist it would have been noticed.  This one I have not noticed.

Let me post a probabilite.  The following is just projection on my part.  Here we go, try to stay with me on this.  Players with lower overall ranks are harder to kill than a player with a higher overall rank.  Not just the skill repersented by being a low rank, say under 400 but built into the code.  Such a rank is given a slightly harder object to kill and also a slightly higher lethal rounds.  Just something I've noteced over the years of play.


drt AKA Distructo Dave
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: aztec on November 11, 2012, 09:43:24 AM
We have Tanks? :O
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Lusche on November 11, 2012, 09:48:21 AM
We have Tanks? :O


Shift-F to switch manually between tanks. If the tank designation font is white in the cockpit, it's on auto select. External tanks can be dropped after being selected with backspace.

Hope that helps  :D


 :bolt:
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: WWhiskey on November 11, 2012, 09:52:45 AM
The only problem I see is the T-34 that takes a hit, fires, kills my M-18 then blows up, lag problem I guess ,,,
but has happened a lot and has caused me to change my M-18 tactics a good bit to avoid having the T-34 able to return fire for at least 5 seconds,
, DR7's comments could also be directly related to tank choosing instead of rank, many of the players I have a hard time killing, drive the T-34/85,   rounds bounce of that tank all the time, good solid hits even, at under 500 yards on occasion
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: titanic3 on November 11, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
GVs are a mess. Go clean them up by flying planes.  :)
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: hitech on November 12, 2012, 02:13:07 PM
Sorry to say but, I see this all the time.  Not rounds going through a tank.  But players jumping on an excuse.  On the problem of rounds going through a tank I can say I may have seen this happen once.  Well, that was my excuse on missing a shot.  With the amount of shots I take if a problem exist it would have been noticed.  This one I have not noticed.

Let me post a probabilite.  The following is just projection on my part.  Here we go, try to stay with me on this.  Players with lower overall ranks are harder to kill than a player with a higher overall rank.  Not just the skill repersented by being a low rank, say under 400 but built into the code.  Such a rank is given a slightly harder object to kill and also a slightly higher lethal rounds.  Just something I've noteced over the years of play.


drt AKA Distructo Dave

One of the better conspiracy theories I have heard.

As to the original post. Send film. As I said before, we look at all films. As we said before on the one you sent in, there was  not an issue with bullets going threw tanks with the films you sent in.

It was  only a display issue, and the damage that should have been done was.

HiTech
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: guncrasher on November 12, 2012, 10:54:02 PM
try playing world of tanks when you are in an is8 that can penetrate over 200 in of armor you get behind an arty and the round bounces.  you switch to he hit it again and it bounces.  all at the distance of 20 meters.


semp
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: WEZEL on November 12, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Rounds go trough my tank all the time.......then I find myself in the tower  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: Doc72 on November 13, 2012, 05:54:23 AM
This happend to me yesterday. Unfortunately, I did not record it so all I can do is explain what I saw on my end. Yes, I know, no film = it never happend. I was in a Tiger II defending a base. A panzer drove between myself and a friendly in town. I had to look twice to make sure it was an enemy tank and when I verified it was, I fired on it. The round went through the panzer and hit the friendly on the other side. As the round hit the friendly, it registered on my end as my tank taking damage even though the enemy tank had not fired on me.  :furious  :bhead  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: lunatic1 on November 13, 2012, 12:41:21 PM
where r these black tanks---where can i get 1--in what arena are they in--the only color panzer i see is the orange or dark orange h's and the blue f's or vice-versa.i know we used to have black tanks--and a white 1-and several shades of the burnt orange ones
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: onerka on November 13, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
I've seen it, but only a couple of times in thousands of encounters.  The most memorable instance:  was very close to a con shooting at others - con did not notice me.  So close there was no missing the shot.  Shot him in the flank and the shell went right through the tank...was a surprise as I hadn't seen this happen previously.  Shot him several more times with the same outcome.  Then he noticed me, and killed me.  It is certainly not common, at least on my FE it is a very rare situation...not sure, but maybe twice in the time I have been tanking. But, no mistake, it can happen.

BTW, I like DR's theory.  I knew there was a reason I kept my tanker rating well above the 400 line!

One
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: kvuo75 on November 13, 2012, 01:58:45 PM
where r these black tanks---where can i get 1--in what arena are they in--the only color panzer i see is the orange or dark orange h's and the blue f's or vice-versa.i know we used to have black tanks--and a white 1-and several shades of the burnt orange ones

download the skins.
Title: Re: Rounds going through tanks II
Post by: USRanger on November 13, 2012, 07:22:32 PM
You guys just aren't using the right tank. :P

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