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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Midway on November 13, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
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I was flying looking for a fight, few cons in the air. Then I see a red dot.... a P38 comes straight at me and at 1.5k starts firing (could it be AKAK? :huh )... I avoid the attempted HO, turn around and chase in my Spit16. Can't catch him, he goes after our radar, VH, whatever... I had a chance to stop him with a HO. Instead was hoping he would turn or E fight. He didn't. If I had HOed, he would have been highly likely stopped. Huh, 2Dizzy?
Needless to say, a pony came next. Same thing. But this time, I HOed back. Pony done for. Huh, McLovin? :D
When a faster aeroplane than yours comes straight at you, there is a good chance they just go for a HO shot and keep going to do damage to your base.
They must be stopped and a HO is an excellent choice in this situation (which presents itself often). :old:
:joystick: :)
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:headscratch: :headscratch: :furious :furious :mad: :mad: :huh :huh :furious :furious
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Did you consult your FPHs for council on this matter? What does Bruv119 say regarding this issue?
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Did you consult your FPHs for council on this matter? What does Bruv119 say regarding this issue?
Have not. Am attempting to decision this on my own. We shall see. :pray hopefully he/they will weigh in on the matter.
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If you get yourself in a position where it is even possible to be HO'd you screwed up. Midway would be in the right to HO here pretty much, given the position of the other planes.
Co alt, co e flying a spit, it is probably in your best interest to turn fight the enemy. Less risk. But a high flying American bird with e comes in head first without maneuvering to avoid a possible HO, I'd probably trust my 20s to hit him where it hurts, rather than avoid it, and have him either continue, or BNZ me over and over, reducing my SA towards other parts of the sky.
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If you get yourself in a position where it is even possible to be HO'd you screwed up. Midway would be in the right to HO here pretty much, given the position of the other planes.
Co alt, co e flying a spit, it is probably in your best interest to turn fight the enemy. Less risk. But a high flying American bird with e comes in head first without maneuvering to avoid a possible HO, I'd probably trust my 20s to hit him where it hurts, rather than avoid it, and have him either continue, or BNZ me over and over, reducing my SA towards other parts of the sky.
Strat :banana: I miss you. :frown: You were a good LD. :aok
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midway, if he blows past you to suicide on a shed, you win the fight by default. :aok
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midway, if he blows past you to suicide on a shed, you win the fight by default. :aok
I don't want him damaging my base or HOing a bud behind me somewhere.
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I don't want him damaging my base or HOing a bud behind me somewhere.
dont worry about the base. they all look the same anyway.
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dont worry about the base. they all look the same anyway.
But I do. I see my mission as needing to stop his/hers. They are the enemy and my country buds might want to use our base for a mission.
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Oh. :frown:
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OMG Midway, Fighter Pilot God just showed up & frowned :pray
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OMG Midway, Fighter Pilot God just showed up & frowned :pray
I know.
Am considering my way now.
Awesome that he gave guidance. :rock
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Look away Midway, he could smite you with a single glance leaving only a pair of smoking moccasins :eek:
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Look away Midway, he could smite you with a single glance leaving only a pair of smoking moccasins :eek:
Isn't it cool that it's so obvious Kazaa is deservingly a FPH's FPH? I have chosen well, you have to admit. Many many would agree.
I will never forget his voice PM to me "Midway, I am your god, bow before me." It was when he and Bruv were flying together shooting me down at will. Probably my favorite Aces High memory. :cheers:
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I will never forget his voice PM to me "Midway, I am your god, bow before me."
Reminded me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlmIeH7DT_w :D
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Who is Kazaa...........no..........I dont mean Who is Kazaa.....I mean Who is Kazaa?.......I'm so confused...... :old:
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Who is Kazaa?.........no......I dont mean Who is Kazaa.....I mean Who is Kazaa?.......I'm so confused...... :old:
Kazaa is awesomeness^2. Think of Bruv, then think of Bruv times Bruv.
There is none better that I know of. I rarely got to see Kazaa, but the experience is extremely memorable. Ask others... They will tell you.
If Bruv were to have a FPH, it would be Kazaa. The level of skill is unimaginable to most. How anyone can be that good and smart is beyond my level of comprehension still.
During his time in Aces High, he was the most elite stick in the game, he won the TOC, he can do moves in his Spitfire others can only dream of, he passed on much skill to Bruv, he helped people, on occasion, in the DA.
Many miss him tremendously. A true legend of Aces High. His Id should be retired like a sport champion's jersey/number is retired as none are worthy of it.
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Why I still want to HO...
Because you're a tard?
Unless you're in a 110, 410, or a bomber, theres NO excuse for HO'ing a fighter besides lack of skill.
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Because you're a tard?
Unless you're in a 110, 410, or a bomber, theres NO excuse for HO'ing a fighter besides lack of skill.
I have to admit to HOing DMGOD's pony tonight, among others. It took two HOs to down it. It was the wrong thing to do. :frown: I will have to recommit myself to NOMOHO again, difficult as it is.
Kazaa has guided me and others have in the past as well. I need to accept the proper way to fight and not be tempted by the HO. I will try harder. :frown:
Forgive me to those I have HOed. :frown:
Let others be guided to not HO as well. :old:
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I need to accept the proper way to fight and not be tempted by the HO. I will try harder. :frown:
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/blowup.gif)
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I flew with Bruv in the Few.......and there was no Kazaa......not even a mention...... :old:
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Midway 90% of the player base HO so it isn't a condition of yours.
If you up a capped base continue to HO every player that you deem to be hording, ganging or vulching. The noble fight goes out the window when people come in 10+ on your field. Kill them quickly.
You have very rarely HOed me when you know it is a 1vs1 situation. Maybe other less skilled sticks do not have the abilities to gain your six fairly and are embarrassed about their own lack of ACM.
Also fly whatever you want. If everyone flew spitfires this game would be much more exciting.
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I ho gangtards all night long. If someone has failed 3-4 HO attempts on me, I will also ho them. Then I taunt them mercilessly. :t
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I avoid the HO 99.9% of the time, no matter if I am in a 5v1, I always seem to lose when I do HO, and if I do win I usually come out with an oil leak, rad leak, pw, hub cannon, etc.
Granted my aim sucks but still, you will rarely find me HO'ing unless I am in something like a 110 or hurricane from a totally capped field or whatever.
So to me it's better to avoid *shrugs*
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I don't always walk away unscathed, but it is satisfying spraying all over their face... :D
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Btw, it does seem like since I returned for those last few months, the k4 takes way more face damage. I won't even attack buffs usually. Just means a rad or pw in 1ping.
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You HO away if you want to Midway, but please stop with the pretence of it being a moment of weakness and the increasingly sad pattern of asking for forgiveness. Take responsibility for your actions and embrace who you are and what you are :old:
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Midway 90% of the player base HO so it isn't a condition of yours.
If you up a capped base continue to HO every player that you deem to be hording, ganging or vulching. The noble fight goes out the window when people come in 10+ on your field. Kill them quickly.
You have very rarely HOed me when you know it is a 1vs1 situation. Maybe other less skilled sticks do not have the abilities to gain your six fairly and are embarrassed about their own lack of ACM.
Also fly whatever you want. If everyone flew spitfires this game would be much more exciting.
:) :cheers:
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You HO away if you want to Midway, but please stop with the pretence of it being a moment of weakness and the increasingly sad pattern of asking for forgiveness. Take responsibility for your actions and embrace who you are and what you are :old:
I want to fight skillfully and will work to HO far less often. There is no pretense of it being a moment(s) of weakness, it sincerely is. I beg forgiveness because I can do better and sincerely don't want the HOee to think I'm just a cheap unskilled HOer. I do take responsibility and intend to change/improve who I am by learning and showing more skill than what a typical HOer shows.
I'm sure I will likely HO again, on occasion, in a moment(s) of weakness, but almost always feel cheapened by the act. Now if I am just upping and someone comes straight at me, then I likely will have no other choice than to get it over with and reup again, if necessary.
As far as my original post, in thinking about this situation more, I should have climbed then dove down on the P38. He would either keep flying straight and I would get a high angle deflection shot or he would have deviated and we'd have a fight. In either case no HO necessary and no frown from Kazaa. :aok
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Egads Midway, you demand an awful lot of attention, are you aware of this?
It's probably too late, for your 'reputation' I think you will now never command respect or admiration and your HOing is one example of why. So desperate are you to win, you will take every advantage and every shot to assert and serve your agenda that you deserve to be given respect.
Look here how you equate defeating Shane in an LA7. I believe I have fought Shane once and remember him turning that LA7 to its limits. How did you defeat him, by out turning him in your Spixteen? Honestly? If so then that is attributable to your aircraft not to your contrived awesomeness. It is not the same thing at all. How can the entire Aces High community see this and you alone not?
I think when all said and done, when you scrape all of the horsemanure off both here and on channel 200, that the reputation you have in Aces High in general faithfully reflects your activities here. There is no spinning what you are and self-promoting, unsubstantiated claims are no more than a contribution to global warming.
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Egads Midway, you demand an awful lot of attention, are you aware of this?
It's probably too late, for your 'reputation' I think you will now never command respect or admiration and your HOing is one example of why. So desperate are you to win, you will take every advantage and every shot to assert and serve your agenda that you deserve to be given respect.
Look here how you equate defeating Shane in an LA7. I believe I have fought Shane once and remember him turning that LA7 to its limits. How did you defeat him, by out turning him in your Spixteen? Honestly? If so then that is attributable to your aircraft not to your contrived awesomeness. It is not the same thing at all. How can the entire Aces High community see this and you alone not?
I think when all said and done, when you scrape all of the horsemanure off both here and on channel 200, that the reputation you have in Aces High in general faithfully reflects your activities here. There is no spinning what you are and self-promoting, unsubstantiated claims are no more than a contribution to global warming.
Off the mark again, nrshida. :headscratch:
I hope your day improves and your assessment abilities get back up to the level where they once were. :)
Btw, you never did explain your reference to singularily hiearchial, for which yahoo had no reference. Could you?
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Shida's patience is endless.
You still could manage him to get rid of you.
Congratulations.
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Well I will leave the validity of my observations to the judgement of others.
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Times change but most People do not. :old: Consider your way.
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Egads Midway, you demand an awful lot of attention, are you aware of this?
It's probably too late, for your 'reputation' I think you will now never command respect or admiration and your HOing is one example of why. So desperate are you to win, you will take every advantage and every shot to assert and serve your agenda that you deserve to be given respect.
Look here how you equate defeating Shane in an LA7. I believe I have fought Shane once and remember him turning that LA7 to its limits. How did you defeat him, by out turning him in your Spixteen? Honestly? If so then that is attributable to your aircraft not to your contrived awesomeness. It is not the same thing at all. How can the entire Aces High community see this and you alone not?
I think when all said and done, when you scrape all of the horsemanure off both here and on channel 200, that the reputation you have in Aces High in general faithfully reflects your activities here. There is no spinning what you are and self-promoting, unsubstantiated claims are no more than a contribution to global warming.
truer words have never been spoken (written)
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Such a pity DokGonZo no longer participates in the forum, or flies cyber planes. The HATE would be deafening :devil
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Well I will leave the validity of my observations to the judgement of others.
I remember you trying to stand up for middy when 99% was not, every one was saying he is a troll, you were saying na he is just young or whatever it was.....
he isnt a troll he actually believes what he types, I think you see that now.....
I see some good qualities in middy but sadly they are very much out weighed by his illusions of grandeur...I wanted to give him the benefit of doubt....but it is pointless
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There is nothing wrong with Hoing and according to multiple sources was a predominant technique used in WWII. It is kinda like jousting. :old:
Most Ho's can be avoided if it is not your thing. I really don't go out of my way to Ho and\or plan ahead of time to do it but sometimes it is a valid option. Especially if my convergence is set out far to get bombers and I encounter an enemy fixated on a Ho attempt. Surprise!!!! :rock
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Thank you, nrshida.... for having spent time out of the dark side (until recently, that is), especially when you were a member of the BEST squad, based on my rankings, in Aces High, "The Few". Your kindness, on the mark (at the time) assessments, and help are and were much appreciated. :aok
I felt it such an honour to have a strong and mighty member of The Few teach me some things two years ago. I still feel the thankfulness for that time.
Now that you appear to enter (or possibly re-enter) the dark side, enjoy the company with AKAK, DMGOD, DrBone, others. I fear for you, but at least you have Zack to try and pull you back, one day. Zack is strong and good and right, hopefully his influence on you will guide you back towards the light.
The light will always prevail over the dark side, in due time, for those that open their eyes and seek truth. :old:
:salute nrshida :pray :frown: :cry :pray
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I just assumed that WHO stood for Will Head On....
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My council and observations have been consistent throughout. I do not serve anyone's agenda I speak honestly and as objectively as I can about what I see (when I can be bothered to speak at all). Is it not insightful that your reaction to it changes when it challenges or criticises you?
Why don't you stop being such a self-centred drama queen, and go about your business quietly, accept your limitations and accept your defeats with self-honesty and self-reflection.
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My council and observations have been consistent throughout. I do not serve anyone's agenda I speak honestly and as objectively as I can about what I see (when I can be bothered to speak at all). Is it not insightful that your reaction to it changes when it challenges or criticises you?
Why don't you stop being such a self-centred drama queen, and go about your business quietly, accept your limitations and accept your defeats with self-honesty and self-reflection.
:pray :frown: :cry :pray
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No Midway, you've been a very naughty boy. Now go to your room and think about what you've done before I bid the Kazaa God to return and frown upon you :old:
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No Midway, you've been a very naughty boy. Now go to your room and think about what you've done before I bid the Kazaa God to return and frown upon you :old:
I have only a few last words for you, nrshida, until you return from the dark side.
Consider your way. :old:
:pray :frown: :cry :pray
Consider your way, indeed. :old:
:pray
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Shida-san, this is my 7th attempt to contact you regarding the late fees you have incurred on the following titles: Weiner Dog squeakes Gone Wild; Saddle Soap: Friend or Foe?; Twighlight: Behind The Scenes; Behind The Music: Bananarama; and Giraffe Roping - Novice to Expert in 2 Hours. As I have stated before, your total outstanding bill is now $46.37. If you fail to return these movies by November 30th, it will be assumed that you have decided to purchase these titles and your balance will be adjusted accordingly. Thank you.
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It was nice and quiet for awhile, but alas, the blather is back in earnest.
You must have been the most attention starved kid in your class.
I seldom respond to your blathering posts and am not sure why I'm doing it now.
Moment of weakness and frustration I guess. :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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You guys make me feel sane. :uhoh
Thank you. :aok
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It was nice and quiet for awhile, but alas, the blather is back in earnest.
You must have been the most attention starved kid in your class.
I seldom respond to your blathering posts and am not sure why I'm doing it now.
Moment of weakness and frustration I guess. :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
consider your ways majwoody :uhoh :pray :eek: :frown:
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consider your ways majwoody :uhoh :pray :eek: :frown:
It's all good now DMGOD. Now all of his posts are the same..... "You are ignoring this user" :aok
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Look away Midway, he could smite you with a single glance leaving only a pair of smoking moccasins :eek:
Shida,
Your quote above made me laugh heartily. (I hope to one day have the honor of buying you a pint.) You have always seemed to be one of the most well-spoken, straight-shooting, helpful and insightful people on the boards.
Sadly one of Midway's greatest failings is how he so easily disregards good, honest advice, even when he asks for it. This is especially true as the advice given is so often not what he wants to hear. He sees only what he wants to see and twists the truth to suit him -- making lies into "truths" he can live with. It's sad to watch him do this with someone of your nature, but that is what he does.
I gave up on Midway long ago after he casually dismissed some advice, after asking for it. I no longer read his words or direct any back to him, here or on 200. The best way to kill the attention starved is to ignore them. If he does you the favor of tuning you out, just happily return the favor.
:salute
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Shida,
... twists the truth to suit him -- making lies into "truths" he can live with. It's sad to watch him do this with someone of your nature, but that is what he does.
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While some of what you say is indeed true (I don't take all advice and do pick and choose), the above is flat out wrong. I do not make lies into truths. They are not always "lies", sometimes people are just making "mistakes". Either way, I identify said lies or mistakes for what they are.
Ex. AKAK saying I changed my ID related to the P38J being too much for me.
Completely untrue. A made up story on his part. I've explained the truth here and yet he still carries on with his untruth.
Another Ex. nrshida in this very thread saying "So desperate are you to win, you will take every advantage and every shot to assert and serve your agenda that you deserve to be given respect."
An obvious (to me) mistake on his part. I do not have an agenda to assert that I be given respect. Truth is I take every advantage and shot to down the enemy as practice to improve my skills and experience. They are for my own satisfaction, not to assert that I deserved other's respect for said skills.
I've also in this thread and others provided many examples where nrshida is off the mark in his assesment of me, which I do not believe are "lies" at all, just frequent mistakes on his part.
No problem with mistakes, I do point them out to get the truth told. There are many mistakes about my fighting and posting, and even a few outright lies by others, but I always strive to be honest, sincere, and to learn how to improve.
...and in that light and on that path, I continue my journey to being awesome, one day. Substantial progress already having been made, as you know. :D
I'm sorry you are offended, kingpin, that I did not accept your advice. I do accept many people's advice, but do reject many people's advice as well. I have to use my best judgement and my improvement path benefits or suffers accordingly.
Truth is truth, and mistakes are mistakes. :old:
:)
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Since you've directed this to me (despite my comments being to/for Shida) I will respond:
It was not my advice you dismissed that I'm referring to. It was several pieces of sage advice, from several knowledgeable players on several occasions which you repeatedly dismissed and otherwise rationalized your way out of recognizing for what it was.
You have not offended me. Frankly, I would have to hold you in considerably higher regard. I only wanted to point out to Shida that you have wasted a good deal of time from many people with your repeated claims of seeking advice, and other such nonsense.
One point of contention: while you have improved a little for the many hours put in over the past two years, the extent of any improvement is much less than you think. Before you dismiss that, although I know you will, I spend a fair amount of time watching films. I watch all my FSO films. I watch many of my MA films. I view them from mine and others' perspectives. While I don't engage your spit very often, as I tend to attack high-threat AC first, I do have you on film -- many times -- even recently. I've watched it from your perspective. But I won't be duped into wasting my time on advice for you.
Continue to deny what you will, blathler on, chalk things up to your rather frequent "moments of weakness". It doesn't matter to me what you do. I lost interest in your act long ago.
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midway
you will never get beyond mediocre....you think you are better then guys that are far beyond you, because you may have gotten a kill on them.....I would bet not only were you in the spit but had plenty of friends all attacking him.....
I have tried to help you in the right path but you are stuck on the inane idea that you are good when in reality its the plane that has given you those kills....
now I just see you for what you are....A complete and utter joke.....
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Since you've directed this to me (despite my comments being to/for Shida) I will respond:
It was not my advice you dismissed that I'm referring to. It was several pieces of sage advice, from several knowledgeable players on several occasions which you repeatedly dismissed and otherwise rationalized your way out of recognizing for what it was.
You have not offended me. Frankly, I would have to hold you in considerably higher regard. I only wanted to point out to Shida that you have wasted a good deal of time from many people with your repeated claims of seeking advice, and other such nonsense.
One point of contention: while you have a improved a little for the many hours put in over the past two years, your improvement is largely in your mind. Before you dismiss that, I spend time watching films. I view them from mine and others' perspectives. I don't often engage your spit, as I tend to attack high-threat AC first. But, I do have you on film -- many times. I've seen how you fly. I've watched it from your perspective. But I won't be duped into wasting my time on advice for you.
Continue to deny what you will, blathler on, chalk things up to your rather frequent "moments of weakness". It doesn't matter to me what you do. I lost interest in your act long ago.
Well, good... glad I didn't offend you... never intended to. The fact is I have accepted many people's advice and have improved much over the last few months. I have listened to (although often rejected) all advice... and am very appreciative to any advice I get. Much advice is contradictory to others so I have to reject based on my judgement and accept based on my judgement, as you do to. I also provide advice to people, ergo some of my posts.
I have also accepted and acted on much advice from nrshida, although recently his assessments seem to be far off the mark. But that's ok... people make mistakes.... moment(s) of weakness and all. No problem with that.
:salute :rock
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midway
you will never get beyond mediocre....you think you are better then guys that are far beyond you, because you may have gotten a kill on them.....I would bet not only were you in the spit but had plenty of friends all attacking him.....
I have tried to help you in the right path but you are stuck on the inane idea that you are good when in reality its the plane that has given you those kills....
now I just see you for what you are....A complete and utter joke.....
I forgive you, Ink.... cause you are awesome... and a truly honourable pilot/man. :aok
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midway
you will never get beyond mediocre....you think you are better then guys that are far beyond you, because you may have gotten a kill on them.....I would bet not only were you in the spit but had plenty of friends all attacking him.....
I have tried to help you in the right path but you are stuck on the inane idea that you are good when in reality its the plane that has given you those kills....
now I just see you for what you are....A complete and utter joke.....
This is exactly why we should not give up on the Midway's Skill placement thread!
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,341582.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,341582.0.html)
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you will never get beyond mediocre....you think you are better then guys that are far beyond you, because you may have gotten a kill on them.....I would bet not only were you in the spit but had plenty of friends all attacking him.....
A good example were his comments towards Shane when Shane pointed out how many more kills he has on Midway than Midway on him. Midway dismisses the stats as "meaningless since they include lots of picks and vulches" while claiming his kills on Shane were a result of "real fights". I think Shane described it best when he said Midway suffers from "Conditional Bias". Personally, I would also include mild retardism in addition to exhibiting conditional bias.
ack-ack
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A good example were his comments towards Shane when Shane pointed out how many more kills he has on Midway than Midway on him. Midway dismisses the stats as "meaningless since they include lots of picks and vulches" while claiming his kills on Shane were a result of "real fights". I think Shane described it best when he said Midway suffers from "Conditional Bias". Personally, I would also include mild retardism in addition to exhibiting conditional bias.
ack-ack
You weren't there, you don't know. Shane knows, as do I. Four Shane kills landed in one sortie, just me and him, filmed, discussed, water under the bridge. Lots of other good fights... Like I said... in a 1v1 situation with him I think I have a 50% chance, maybe even higher now. He won plenty, as have I. Picks and vulches excluded. :)
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You weren't there, you don't know. Shane knows, as do I. Four Shane kills landed in one sortie, just me and him, filmed, discussed, water under the bridge. Lots of other good fights... Like I said... in a 1v1 situation with him I think I have a 50% chance, maybe even higher now. He won plenty, as have I. Picks and vulches excluded. :)
It's how you are. You engage and shoot down someone that is fighting someone else and you crow on 200 how you 'pwnd' them with your experten skill. The people that have fought you in the DA 1v1 know what your real skill level is.
ack-ack
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It's how you are. You engage and shoot down someone that is fighting someone else and you crow on 200 how you 'pwnd' them with your experten skill. The people that have fought you in the DA 1v1 know what your real skill level is.
ack-ack
:rolleyes:
AKAK, are you just upset because I can down your P38, on occasion, yet TwinBoom and Mercy are much better, to where it is not yet possible for me to down their P38? After all your years of P38 experience, are you just frustrated and taking it out on this two year experienced pilot because your skill level is not yet where you think it ought to be?
Is that the deal? If so, I suppose it's understandable. Or is it the public viewing of your duel with me and the limp wristed fighting technique description of your fighting in said duel against this at the time less than one year noob?
If so, then I forgive you. :)
If not, then why do you keep making up stories about me? :huh :headscratch:
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A good example were his comments towards Shane when Shane pointed out how many more kills he has on Midway than Midway on him. Midway dismisses the stats as "meaningless since they include lots of picks and vulches" while claiming his kills on Shane were a result of "real fights". I think Shane described it best when he said Midway suffers from "Conditional Bias". Personally, I would also include mild retardism in addition to exhibiting conditional bias.
ack-ack
:rofl
this is one thing we agree on 100% :aok
sorry middy...(actually I am not thats just a figure of speech)
until you realize that there is a big difference fighting in the MA as compared to the DA..... :rolleyes:
you talk all this about wanting to get "awesome" and how you are almost there.....until you take off the training wheels you will never be anything but a flyer who has to depend on his planes abilities to get him through fights.
does not matter how many fights you win.....who you can beat.....it is the plane that did it, spits have extreme fighting capabilities......you fly in the gang....while in the spit....oh ya you are awesome :rofl
take that spit and fly alone against the gang and see how you fare....you will be very upset at how much you really have no idea how to be a killer......
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:rofl
this is one thing we agree on 100% :aok
sorry middy...(actually I am not thats just a figure of speech)
until you realize that there is a big difference fighting in the MA as compared to the DA..... :rolleyes:
you talk all this about wanting to get "awesome" and how you are almost there.....until you take off the training wheels you will never be anything but a flyer who has to depend on his planes abilities to get him through fights.
does not matter how many fights you win.....who you can beat.....it is the plane that did it, spits have extreme fighting capabilities......you fly in the gang....while in the spit....oh ya you are awesome :rofl
take that spit and fly alone against the gang and see how you fare....you will be very upset at how much you really have no idea how to be a killer......
We disagree on some things. That's ok. Makes life more interesting. Will be pwning you soon enough in my Spitfire... that will finally settle it. Until then, we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)
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We disagree on some things. That's ok. Makes life more interesting. Will be pwning you soon enough in my Spitfire... that will finally settle it. Until then, we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)
this made me think of that song
"he's got high hopes..... hes got high hopes....higher then sky hopes....."
like I said....you have learned nothing....and never will be anything but mediocre at best.
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Will be pwning you soon enough in my Spitfire...
Who, can I get an estimate on when you think this will be?
I am only asking because I want to call Vegas and put a dollar on you when I put one on the Lions.
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Who, can I get an estimate on when you think this will be?
I am only asking because I want to call Vegas and put a dollar on you when I put one on the Lions.
End of 2013 or sooner. :)
Have to work on my slow fighting more.
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this made me think of that song
"he's got high hopes..... hes got high hopes....higher then sky hopes....."
like I said....you have learned nothing....and never will be anything but mediocre at best.
Made me think of this song.
To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
To love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star
This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far
To fight for the right
Without question or pause
To be willing to march into Hell
For a heavenly cause
And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest
And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star
ack-ack
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This is a fantastic song, "to be willing to march into Hell for a Heavenly cause",
just bloody fabulous. How it pertains to Midway leaves me a bit :headscratch:
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HOing is low brow.
So Midway, how would I chalk up then?
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Will be pwning you soon enough in my Spitfire... that will finally settle it.
Big words. But only words again. Brave to talk, coward to prove himself. Very weak.
Heck i would renew my account only to finish our 109 remaining duels.
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They must be stopped and a HO is an excellent choice in this situation (which presents itself often). :old:
:joystick: :)
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I agree :P
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Shida-san, this is my 7th attempt to contact you regarding the late fees you have incurred on the following titles: Weiner Dog squeakes Gone Wild; Saddle Soap: Friend or Foe?; Twighlight: Behind The Scenes; Behind The Music: Bananarama; and Giraffe Roping - Novice to Expert in 2 Hours. As I have stated before, your total outstanding bill is now $46.37. If you fail to return these movies by November 30th, it will be assumed that you have decided to purchase these titles and your balance will be adjusted accordingly. Thank you.
Lolz. Bananarama rock :banana: American Express?
Your quote above made me laugh heartily. (I hope to one day have the honor of buying you a pint.) You have always seemed to be one of the most well-spoken, straight-shooting, helpful and insightful people on the boards.
Merci. I do not in fact partake of the incoholic beverages, but would happily discuss life and the bizarre world of Aces High over a root beer :salute
My objections to Midway have nothing to do with him taking or dismissing advice, that is his prerogative. My objections are that Midway equates defeating an opponent in the Main Arena in his Spitfire regardless of circumstance, to defeating an opponent in a duel. This is of course absurd.
Furthermore he seems to think that one or two victories gives him bragging rights on 200 and the BBS, even if they are balanced by 40 or more defeats at the hands of the same player. Again absurd.
Finally I believe Midway refuses to duel because he knows - as do we all - that a duel is the closest thing we have to minimising all other variables and pitching one's piloting skill against an opponent.
This takes strength of character, a good grip of reality and an ego which is reasonably in check, and he doesn't have those things.
Surely only inside a delusional mind can one lever oneself into such a hierarchical position in this community (as he is illustrating in the other thread). We all know when we have fought a skillful pilot and especially one with superior skill to yourself. Admitting that externally or internally is another matter. Some of the less immature players choose to salute that opponent and reevaluate their own technique and try to improve for the next time.
Midway simply seems to come at that person again and again until he gets a kill, at which point he gets the confirmation he was looking for that he is equal to them or better than them, instead of the more obvious paradigm: 'any idiot with a gun is dangerous'.
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Some real funny people in this thread. Real funny looking people. :old: :rofl
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Finally I believe Midway refuses to duel because he knows - as do we all - that a duel is the closest thing we have to minimising all other variables and pitching one's piloting skill against an opponent.
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Midway simply seems to come at that person again and again until he gets a kill, at which point he gets the confirmation he was looking for that he is equal to them or better than them
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Off the mark again, nrshida.... but I forgive you. Your recent assessments are severly lacking. How is the dark side treating you? Hopefully you'll turn around and come back in the light and bring truer assessments with you once again. I've explained my reason for not liking to duel in another recent thread. And just because I beat Bruv, for example, once or twice, in no way means I'm confirming that I'm better than he. Far far from it... and therefore you being again far far off the mark.
We all have moment(s) of weakness. :old:
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midway, if he blows past you to suicide on a shed, you win the fight by default. :aok
Who said anything about suicide on a shed. Ive often hit an nme VH and Ord plus radar at a small field. I was challenged on the way in by the Spit, LaLa, or whatever. Im in a heavy P38L hauling ords. I take the guy head on, thats HO Ill start firing at 2K.. so that they knew to get out of my way. Ill get my VH, the Ord and radar and RTB. Some time I get the kill on the defender. The ones that hold the line, die, the ones that turn away cant get a shot on me before they lose the VH and ords.
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Some real funny people in this thread. Real funny looking people. :old: :rofl
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q279/quirkyjessi/funny-pictures-cat-man-tinfoil-hats.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/6M6Gd.png)
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If you know I'll never HO, it makes me predictable.
I hate being predictable.
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If you know I'll never HO, it makes me predictable.
I hate being predictable.
Wisdom graced upon us. Thank you. :salute :rock
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(http://i.imgur.com/6M6Gd.png)
lol good chit!
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Wisdom graced upon us. Thank you. :salute :rock
That's actually a very consistent piece of advice I give to just about anyone who spends some time with me in the DA initially.
A lot of those "picks" you say I have on you were not so much picks of you engaged, as much as being in the right position right altitude to catch you jabbering on ch200 (sometimes even while I'm talking with you - I multitask better :aok )
Predictability kills.
An aside: How many times did you die when I dropped down on your six? How many times did you die when you dropped down on *my* six? How many times when I simply used the La's speed to take total control of the fight instead of getting all twisty? Are you still easy to rope? Not all DA time is same plane, 25% on deck, best double/triple immel wins, unless it's a tie and then it ends up in a scissors for the better pilots and a circle for the average ones, and you beat them by going vert from the circle. I've done mis-matched planes, lower alt, 2-3 v 1, 2 v 2 etc... almost like the TA in a sense, except your mistakes send you to tower.
You simply don't have the inherent talent to be recognized as "great"; you need a mentor, not a role-model, to refine and broaden your skills. You have the potential to become a much more capable/effective pilot.
You may remember Wldthing (and SKyrock as well)... I spent hours with both in the DA racking the crap outta ponys (before I moved to lala's :noid ) Both eventually learned as much as they could from me and moved onto to the few others who possessed both talent/skill for those few remaining skills. I never had a mentor... I got by on talent and honed my skills.
My talent is what allows me to pwn you, as my skills are fairly rusty. :ahand :neener:
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VERY well beaten topic for sure dude. If the red guy is in your sights (REFRICKINGARDLESS of how they got there), squeeze the trigger. Anyone else that complains of skill and whatnot and insist the "6 shot" is the only honorable solution, is trying the DA style of play in the MA.
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VERY well beaten topic for sure dude. If the red guy is in your sights (REFRICKINGARDLESS of how they got there), squeeze the trigger. Anyone else that complains of skill and whatnot and insist the "6 shot" is the only honorable solution, is trying the DA style of play in the MA.
I cant find words to explain how simple-minded your post was.
But just as a reference, the ones thinking like you will never ever get any better. Just saying.
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I agree with Debrody, if you think you should HO every pass you won't get much further than 2 kills per sortie and lucky to land.
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If you go for a HO shot, you are forfeiting the first turn advantage to your opponent, and I for one will exploit the heck out of this advantage and shoot you from behind in the second turn :D
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I cant find words to explain how simple-minded your post was.
But just as a reference, the ones thinking like you will never ever get any better. Just saying.
It's not rocket science dude. If words fail you.... who is the simple-minded one here?
I agree with Debrody, if you think you should HO every pass you won't get much further than 2 kills per sortie and lucky to land.
I didn't say "HO every pass". Where did you read this?
If you go for a HO shot, you are forfeiting the first turn advantage to your opponent, and I for one will exploit the heck out of this advantage and shoot you from behind in the second turn :D
If you are in my sights and we are head-on... aren't YOU in a HO attitude also? Everyone says the HO is easy to avoid by a well seasoned and skilled player.... Just Saying.
And besides you dipsticks, I said
"VERY well beaten topic for sure dude. If the red guy is in your sights (REFRICKINGARDLESS of how they got there), squeeze the trigger. Anyone else that complains of skill and whatnot and insist the "6 shot" is the only honorable solution, is trying the DA style of play in the MA."
Where in that post was "HO" EVER mentioned? Get your heads out of your butts and pay attention.
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Its the train of consequences.
"take every shot" includes the HOs in my book, and since the easyest way to get guns on the opponent is a head on, just used a logical consequence.
My bad for being this stupid.
Edit: i apologize here and now, never meant to call you out. Still, your post was misunderstandable, maybe its my poor english... The head on thingy is one what makes me creep.
And nope i dont ho, unless... "unless", what a big word... so unless there are many opponents BnZing me withouth any willing to actually fight.
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It's too hard to try - A8balls
That's all I got from your posts. I'm going to make a club, Latrobe, Redbull and Debrody are invited.
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It's too hard to try - A8balls
That's all I got from your posts. I'm going to make a club, Latrobe, Redbull and Debrody are invited.
If that's all you got out of that, you probably own a few bridges Sir.
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Gotta agree with Debrody. You accept HO's, you're not going to get better in the worse of cases, and are slowing your improvment in the best of cases.
Basically, my reasoning is that, if you HO, it shows that either 1) you aren't confident of your ability to defeat the enemy in a manuvering fight, or that 2) you are confident that your opponent is newer, or just can't aim for hell (else HO just results in a mutual death, or severe damage a least).
If its the first, then the reason for why you souldn't HO are obvious: You don't get better without practice, and the best practice is against those better than you are.
If the latter, then the reason is that you're simply being lazy and don't want to take the time to manuver. Its more courteous, and fun, to manuver for the kill, even if its not nessecary.
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well from my experience, the DA is more of a laid back place to fly, not too many HOs and everyone has a good time(for the most part) The MA, well out of we'll say 10 sorties I get hoed about 80% of the time, only had a few good fights, and seems like there is a lot of nonsense drama there kinda like facebook. So when I fly in the MA I ho everything, in the DA I dont ho at all unless its rediculous odds.
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It's not rocket science dude. If words fail you.... who is the simple-minded one here?
I believe the expression is "Rocket Surgery". Duh.
I quite like it when people try to HO me. It not only illustrates how much more they want to get a kill than have a fight, but also justifies and facilitates the spanking they are about to receive. Carry on. :old:
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well from my experience, the DA is more of a laid back place to fly, not too many HOs and everyone has a good time(for the most part) The MA, well out of we'll say 10 sorties I get hoed about 80% of the time, only had a few good fights, and seems like there is a lot of nonsense drama there kinda like facebook. So when I fly in the MA I ho everything, in the DA I dont ho at all unless its rediculous odds.
That makes you the 80 percent or better.
Actually some people try to HO so much, just make that your first move by leading them. Your one step ahead.
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80% of the people in the MA HO... because at least 80% of the MA thinks any time you are shot anywhere but dead 6-o'clock is a HO.
Honestly, I use it to judge the relative skill level (and in some cases, the effectiveness of channel 200 chili-stirring) of the pilot... when I am already engaged and at the ass-end of a turn or something and another bandit is merging with me and doesn't fire, it's pretty easy to tell who it is based on the plane (and I usually find out as they shoot me down in the next 30 seconds).
One thing I will say about Midway, he's actually pretty good at Head-on attacks... the majority of the HO-patrol simply sprays a few dozen cannon rounds and keeps on going. I guess that 10% chance they have of a handful of them making contact with more than the ground - which of course usually cripples your ride - is enough to keep them entertained.
As frustrating as it can be, in my case if I get hit it's because I was being greedy with energy when I should have evaded more thoroughly... and although the old Air Warrior method of deterring those types of attacks seems attractive in those instances, I am glad hitech and co. keeps it realistic.
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80% of the people in the MA HO... because at least 80% of the MA thinks any time you are shot anywhere but dead 6-o'clock is a HO.
A head on is a head on, no exuses can make it look any better.
So do you think when two planes are moving towards each other, and one slightly turns away but the other is forcing it and spraying is not a ho?
Btw i wouldnt give the horse under middy, but thats just me. I know, im not even playing anymore... insanety.
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A head on is a head on, no exuses can make it look any better.
I'm unclear why someone would need to make it "look any better." A shot's a shot. If I'm flying against you, and I know that you'll never take the HO shot, then I'll adjust my tactics accordingly - namely turning nose to nose against you every time, since it's low risk for me. And since I'd have no aversion to shooting your plane HO, that gives me a significant tactical advantage.
Now, if we're talking a dueling ladder match, then not going HO is just good sportsmanship. But in the MA? Everything's on the table IMO.
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A head on is a head on, no exuses can make it look any better.
If both craft simultaneously have a forward gun solution on one another, it's a "HO" if one or both fire.
My comment was directed at those who think that the guy coming in off their 1 or 2 o'clock (for example... I've see people get nailed from high 12 and whine HO) and hammering them is a HO.
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Someone please post a video showing a perfect HO on an enemy buff.
I'll bet 90% here can't do it.
It takes two to HO.
I try to avoid HO's but will take one when I am matched against a plane I can't outturn or outspeed to gain separation for a proper non-HO attack.
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I take them in stride these days but the annoying thing about HO's these days is the time wasted flyin somewhere to possibly get a fight and then the cat comes straight at you guns blazing. If he hits you, its more boring climbout time back to the battle, if he misses you I find they usually run, so either way its usually just a waste of game time. As far as HOing bombers, I do it, and I like it! :aok
Mark
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Someone please post a video showing a perfect HO on an enemy buff.
I'll bet 90% here can't do it.
I'm sure I have a few in my film folder somewhere.
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It wasn't so much a challenge but I sure have trouble making a dead on HO attack on a plane not also trying to do the same.
When you have a fight that features you trying to reverse many times to get six and your opponent reverses the same amount to maintain HO at the merge, then you can complain about HO.
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Was hoed by who earlyer this weak so don't act like you don't do it anymore.
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I'm sure I have a few in my film folder somewhere.
When someone is referring to skill, and claiming 90% of the player base can't do something, I think it is safe to assume you aren't part of that 90%... ;)
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Now, if we're talking a dueling ladder match, then not going HO is just good sportsmanship. But in the MA? Everything's on the table IMO.
Its the intardnet, only your deeds describe you. If im trying to avoid but you are still spraying, the consequence is taken: you are either lame or not a sportsman. Cheers. This is for the "it takes 2 to ho" ones too.
Btw a high 12 deflection shot is not a ho. Only to avoid the misunderstandings.
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When someone is referring to skill, and claiming 90% of the player base can't do something, I think it is safe to assume you aren't part of that 90%... ;)
He's asking for a film of a perfect HOon a buff, and I don't consider myself in the top 10% at buff hunting.
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He's asking for a film of a perfect HOon a buff, and I don't consider myself in the top 10% at buff hunting.
Unless you climb right up into a buff's low 6 at near stall speeds you probably are indeed in the 10%.
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When someone is referring to skill, and claiming 90% of the player base can't do something, I think it is safe to assume you aren't part of that 90%... ;)
Your deductive skills are amazing.
I am in the 90%.
I don't know how you figured out the mystery.
You should appear on jeopardy.
Or you somehow gleaned it from my earlier post that stated the obvious.
It wasn't so much a challenge but I sure have trouble making a dead on HO attack on a plane not also trying to do the same.
When you have a fight that features you trying to reverse many times to get six and your opponent reverses the same amount to maintain HO at the merge, then you can complain about HO.
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Its the intardnet, only your deeds describe you. If im trying to avoid but you are still spraying, the consequence is taken: you are either lame or not a sportsman.
Your deeds describe you as well: Easy target.
It's a game after all. Shooting someone HO in Aces High is not a reflection of moral character, nor was it ever.
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Your deeds describe you as well: Easy target.
Heh take a try. Maybe i am not a über stick but not exactly an easy target either.
Look if someone shows no sportsmanship, why should i expect he is a sportsman?
Anyway, go, ho everyone if you want to, its none of my business so i shoulda stfu.
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Your deductive skills are amazing.
I am in the 90%.
I don't know how you figured out the mystery.
You should appear on jeopardy.
Or you somehow gleaned it from my earlier post that stated the obvious.
Let's assume, for a moment, that the above statement was direct at you (which, by way of deductive reasoning, we can rule out - since I directly quoted Dolby)...
Okay, now that we are assuming, I still don't see where you could possibly perceive a slight against your skill(s) in what I wrote...
All misunderstanding aside, I do appreciate that you value my deductive skills.
I know that February is still a ways off... but let's be friends!
(http://womenshealth.gov/heart-health-stroke/images/heart-in-hands.jpg)
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Heh take a try. Maybe i am not a über stick but not exactly an easy target either.
Maybe not, but you limit yourself by removing options and making yourself predictable.
And a willingness to take a HO shot should it present itself isn't the same as being a HO-crazed maniac. I point you here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,97161.0.html), fine sir.
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I agree with Levi....especially when it comes to the MA....the HO shot keeps the fight honest......
there is a place for your way of thinking Debrody in the DA/dogfighters Ladder....but in a sandbox like the MA..in FSO......the HO is a must have.....and sometimes it is your best "attack" IE 110 vs zero...190 vs zero.......and so forth.
if 2 are knife fighting and one gets his nose around a bit quicker and takes the shot, it is a perfectly legit shot......
you know I understand about Honor Debrody..... and I wish everyone flew with Honor......but even then the HO/front shot is a part of fighting......just like how it was in the DA when I first got here...people would fly straight at and past each other in a duel and not maneuver until past each other...that is an absurd way to fight....a duel is still a fight and you want to kill the "bad guy"....long before I get to the nme I am setting up to interact/merge as close to a front shot while still denying them a shot .....so flying straight at someone with no maneuvers before the merge is a good way to get shot in the face.....and deservedly so....IMO
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Call me predictable, or even stupid, i refuse to take those shots as it is against everything i stood for.
I am not expecting anyone to deal with me in the same way, but if you face me, you know what i will not do. Possibly i lost quite a few kills due to not shooting someones face but i am happyer this way.
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"Honor" what a load of gibberish :old:
Flippen clowns :rofl
Cartoon planes :rofl
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Honor is in everything we as Humans do.... AH is a Game....so is Chess....yet people play Chess with Honor right? why is AH any different....it is NOT
if you don't see why Honor is as important in AH as any other "game" or "activity"....well then you have no clue what Honor is.
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I am vexed by HO'ing.
I don't want to do it because it takes little skill or effort. Yet, everytime I am presented with the chance and do not squeeze the trigger I get my face shot off. :bhead
I keep telling myself I'm just gonna start ho'ing everything that points at me, but I'm too stupid to follow my own advice. :headscratch:
As a noob, I am a victim to the ho'ing monster all of you created. :old:
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I am vexed by HO'ing.
I don't want to do it because it takes little skill or effort. Yet, everytime I am presented with the chance and do not squeeze the trigger I get my face shot off. :bhead
I keep telling myself I'm just gonna start ho'ing everything that points at me, but I'm too stupid to follow my own advice. :headscratch:
As a noob, I am a victim to the ho'ing monster all of you created. :old:
Same, when that happens, depending on my mood, I either let off a line on 200 and move on (oh wells :)), shrug it off and chuckle, or play something else more fun. Came back after a 2-3 months break, had my fix for a few days, now it's time for another break.
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Honor is in everything we as Humans do.... AH is a Game....so is Chess....yet people play Chess with Honor right? why is AH any different....it is NOT
if you don't see why Honor is as important in AH as any other "game" or "activity"....well then you have no clue what Honor is.
Gibberish :old:
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I point you here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,97161.0.html), fine sir.
Anyone point you to this?;
what a F&ckin dweeb. man its ppl like you who ruin the game.
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Gibberish :old:
He meant Honour , Zack hope that helps you.
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Anyone point you to this?;
You do realize that Nath was kidding when he posted that... right?
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You do realize that Nath was kidding when he posted that... right?
I fail to find any evidence to back that up, as he didn't post anymore in that thread, therefore can only be taken at face value.
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I fail to find any evidence to back that up, as he didn't post anymore in that thread, therefore can only be taken at face value.
You're going to lose this argument. Trust me.
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I dont remember engaging in an argument.
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Gibberish :old:
I'm sending you to the virtual mountains for extensive enema therapy until you get your head right :old:
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He meant Honour , Zack hope that helps you.
Winston Churchill
Roosevelt
Patton
Eisenhower
etc
All those who have fought to defend Democracy and freedom have "Honor" in both world wars and in the present day :old:
How dare you ascribe this term "Honor" to people in a on-line game, its disrespectful. :old:
You all should be ashamed of yourselves for demeaning those who deserve the term of "Honor"
Maybe in foreign lands "Honor" is used to describe something different.
Honor in Chess?
Honor in monopoly?
I thought i was daft :rofl
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I dont remember engaging in an argument.
I said Nath was joking. You said he can only be taken at face value. Those are two different positions, and you supported yours. That's an argument - i.e. an attempt at persuasion with evidence. That's different than arguing in the bickering kind of way, mind you.
Anyway, that's just semantics. Here's what Nath had to say to me via Facebook just now:
"I'll HO anything that moves especially when I pull up to Dolby's BnZing 109 and put a tater in his face." He also included this photo:
(http://john-sanderson.com/files/Aces%20High/nath/dolby.jpg)
Somebody's mad.
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:lol :aok
I meant that post of his can only be taken at face value.
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Hello H0ST.
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A head on is a head on, no exuses can make it look any better.
So do you think when two planes are moving towards each other, and one slightly turns away but the other is forcing it and spraying is not a ho?
I think if two planes are flying toward each other and one only turns slightly away then that one is pretty dumb. If you wish to refuse the HO then to assume the enemy will not take a gift shot is pretty dumb. We can refuse the HO without presenting these gifts.
If two planes fly toward each other and either one chooses to fire at the others 12 then it's a HO IMO. If you wish to evade the HO then you have no right to presume your opponent should do like wise.
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Winston Churchill
Roosevelt
Patton
Eisenhower
etc
All those who have fought to defend Democracy and freedom have "Honor" in both world wars and in the present day :old:
How dare you ascribe this term "Honor" to people in a on-line game, its disrespectful. :old:
You all should be ashamed of yourselves for demeaning those who deserve the term of "Honor"
Maybe in foreign lands "Honor" is used to describe something different.
Honor in Chess?
Honor in monopoly?
I thought i was daft :rofl
I see you have no clue what Honour/Honor...is at all.
its not something that can be on for some things and off for others....if you live by Honor all things in your life will show Honor.....
ether way I am glad we had this little eye opener..... :aok
now I know why you are always making jokes about everything and anything.
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Owning Tilt,Klingan and Eatg of The Few has no glimmer of honour :old:
Only a warm feeling inside :old:
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I see you have no clue what Honour/Honor...is at all.
its not something that can be on for some things and off for others....if you live by Honor all things in your life will show Honor.....
ether way I am glad we had this little eye opener..... :aok
now I know why you are always making jokes about everything and anything.
I love you Ink :)
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Owning Tilt,Klingan and Eatg of The Few has no glimmer of honour :old:
Only a warm feeling inside :old:
Many years ago I was stuck in some cod forsaken country installing some plant with just a chess set for evening entertainment. Every evening I used to play the same guy at chess and beat him. Every evening he came back for more...........
He said on one occasion "I know your better than me... But one of these games I am going to beat you, and when I do it will be worth more to me than all your victories mean to you...... And when you lose that loss will be worse to you than all my losses mean to me."
And after some weeks he did beat me......... And although I never admitted it to him.................. He was right.
<S> Zack1234
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I love you Tilt :)
Chess is poo by the way :old:
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I think if two planes are flying toward each other and one only turns slightly away then that one is pretty dumb. If you wish to refuse the HO then to assume the enemy will not take a gift shot is pretty dumb. We can refuse the HO without presenting these gifts.
If two planes fly toward each other and either one chooses to fire at the others 12 then it's a HO IMO. If you wish to evade the HO then you have no right to presume your opponent should do like wise.
I know that i am dumb, still, i rather stay dumb instead of become a hoing beyotch.
Its all about personal happyness.
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Happyness?
You always seem to be anoyed to me :old:
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Happyness?
You always seem to be anoyed to me :old:
it's because he flies German planes and the seats are very uncomfortable for the posterior :old:
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my word :old:
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He said on one occasion "I know your better than me... But one of these games I am going to beat you, and when I do it will be worth more to me than all your victories mean to you...... And when you lose that loss will be worse to you than all my losses mean to me."
It was Midway, wasn't it?
it's because he flies German planes and the seats are very uncomfortable for the posterior :old:
And they smell of sausages :old:
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hehe coombzy now that was funny
chill Zack, you will exactly know when i get annoyed. ;)
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I've had some great times getting my oscar handed to me by Debrody, and enjoyed EVERY moment of it, because he understands that a game is more about the competition than the "victory". HOers and their ilk are just like mosquitoes...you know that somehow they have a purpose on this earth, but you're not quite sure what it is...so you just swat the hell out of them and forget them.....
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I want to kill you, then fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled so I can kill someone else and fly away in a plane that is not crippled ... ad infinitum ...
Ho'ing precludes any real possibility of doing this, so I do not ho, I do not allow you to ho. If you have ho'd me it is because I have made a mistake. I do make mistakes, I do get ho'd, then I learn from that and get better at not giving you a ho shot the next time. If I make a mistake and give you a HO shot, then I also have a HO shot and I will sometimes fire, not everytime, sometimes. Most of the time I will kill you because you Ho'd and my aim is better, then I will PM you with normally a "How did that HO work out for you ?" or my favorite, "Live by the HO, Die by the HO:)".
Ho'ing is cheap and weak. It makes you cheap and weak. It's obvious that those who HO all the time and defend their actions don't care about how I feel about the HO. I don't care how you feel about my opinion on those who HO. See, we're even. You don't care and I don't care, but I think I'm better than you because of it.
Any questions ?
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Just one Zoney - where can I get one of these cheap hos you mention?
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I considered PMing you Levi/H0ST, but what would be the point, it'll end up as a screenshot and on here anyway.
Like Nath, I'm sure a private message to you will probably end up public. Trust in you to honour the word Private could be misplaced, the re-emergence of that screenie affirms my initial thoughts.
Anyway, you can keep passing that screenshot around freely, I don't believe it shows myself in a bad light. I stand firm by that PM completely, it was a disappointment to be pull up HO'd making the conversations about nath's ACM prowess to go into the Myth catagory for me. With his experience he should know better to pull such an inconceivable move for the veteran flyer.
I find that you were very sudden to jump to conclusions about my post pointing to Nath's words, using the word argument when there wasn't one. I didn't once mention that Nath himself could only be taken at face value, only his post in the way it was posted. Without evidence in the thread I wasn't going to make an assumption he was joking or being sarcastic, because that would've been foolish. The fact of the matter is, that his words are there and when read with a flat tone are not leaning towards sarcasm or joking. The invention of emoticons/smilies are there to help do that :) .
On a side note; [Sarcasm]BnZing the Cherry Pickers, was unpleasurable. It's unfortunate I tweeked a nerve. [/sarcasm]
Respectfully
Dolby
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hehe coombzy now that was funny
chill Zack, you will exactly know when i get annoyed. ;)
I love you as well :)
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I wanna know what Wilbur was going on about in that screenshot. Honor is a video game is completely unrealistic just like logics in a forum, hell you cant even make a joke with out this community losing its mind so how Can you expect honor? Take the shot, but be ready to accept the consequences.
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Just one Zoney - where can I get one of these cheap hos you mention?
On the corner of Hollywood and Vine.
ack-ack
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I wanna know what Wilbur was going pon about in that screenshot.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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I considered PMing you Levi/H0ST, but what would be the point, it'll end up as a screenshot and on here anyway.
First of all, I'm not H0ST. I don't even know who that is.
Secondly, I posted that screenshot at Nath's request. Take it up with him.
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I think I tend to agree with what some have said... we probably shouldn't complain too much about ho'ing in the MA. It's pretty much a giant sandbox and people are gonna do what they're gonna do. No sense in complaining about it. It's still dweebish and it still sucks, but you're not gonna change it. The DA is a much different story, however. INK has it right there - honor should rule the day.
But anyone who ho's me when I'm outnumbered and/or at a disadvantaged E state is a tard and a sissy. I hereby reserve the right to complain on 200 when this happens. :old:
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Whining about HOs is about the same as whining when your opponent turns his plane right in a fight. Completely arbitrary, and completely worthless.
It astounds me how many guys who take such enormous pride in their ACM seem to have their capabilities hindered by a simple maneuver. Don't fly in front of his sight, you won't get shot. It is that simple.
Wiley.
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Shine, just shine.
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Well, flew a couple of quick sorties today. Nothing new. HO, pick, run. :)
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Well, flew a couple of quick sorties today. Nothing new. HO, pick, run. :)
You must not be flying right, I do not have these problems.
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You must not be flying right, I do not have these problems.
I landed kills, good enough flying for me. :)
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I landed kills, good enough flying for me. :)
Congratulations on landing kills.
I was replying to your post though, in which I do not see HO, pick, run as the prevalent method of gameplay in AH.
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Congratulations on landing kills.
I was replying to your post though, in which I do not see HO, pick, run as the prevalent method of gameplay in AH.
Really? First sortie in a K4, I got picked (ask pervert), but that was my fault for trying to type and fly at the same time, and being rusty since I haven't flown in a couple of weeks. Second sortie in a 410, I killed 3, all 3 decided they want to HO a 410, the last one gave me a PW so I had to land, otherwise I would've kept on flying. Third Sortie I upped a P38 against a spit16 over the base, why? Because I like a challenge. Ended up getting killed after a few turns, nbd. Up a K4, he runs until his buddy came to pick from 10K+.
While I'm sure there are decent fights to be had, it's just not the norm. HOing, running and picking is. Could I have avoided all of those deaths? Sure, but then I would be no better if I were to stoop down to that level. But whatever, it's his/her $15, they can fly however they want. I'm saving that $15 this month for something else.
The amount of fun I had in the MA this tour was worth $1. The other $14 worth was a 30 minute dueling session with ink and H0ST in the DA.
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Really? First sortie in a K4, I got picked (ask pervert), but that was my fault for trying to type and fly at the same time, and being rusty since I haven't flown in a couple of weeks. Second sortie in a 410, I killed 3, all 3 decided they want to HO a 410, the last one gave me a PW so I had to land, otherwise I would've kept on flying. Third Sortie I upped a P38 against a spit16 over the base, why? Because I like a challenge. Ended up getting killed after a few turns, nbd. Up a K4, he runs until his buddy came to pick from 10K+.
While I'm sure there are decent fights to be had, it's just not the norm. HOing, running and picking is. Could I have avoided all of those deaths? Sure, but then I would be no better if I were to stoop down to that level. But whatever, it's his/her $15, they can fly however they want. I'm saving that $15 this month for something else.
The amount of fun I had in the MA this tour was worth $1. The other $14 worth was a 30 minute dueling session with ink and H0ST in the DA.
Sounds like you want modern warefare with airplanes. I fly differently than you do, and my style of flying doesnt have me concern HO'ers, Pickers, Gangers, etc. Sure I fly sometimes just to mix it up! ( I do look at the map first) But I mostly fly knowing that as just an example, a P51 is not going to enter a turning contest with a zero because thats just dumb. Instead (lets say I'm the zero) I understand that he's going to use his plane's superior speed and energy retention to swoop in over and over to kill me. (damn that picker) And that If I cant get on top of him (building E) I might need to present my nose in a HO (damn me, I'm a Ho'er) Sounds like a good game to me.
It sounds like you expect people to fly how you want them to. But planes are not equal, neither are pilots, or their styles of flying.
You personal accounts are great! But what you are saying is you get plenty of kills Vs HO'ers, yet they ruin the game because...they ho'd your 410 and lost? or you wanted to get into a turning match why flying one of the worst turning planes in the game? You were probably lucky to get a HO shot, I sure as well would have taken it.
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Im afraid you totally missed it.
Edit: Zack!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Well done Midway for all your hard work in setting up this thread :old:
Your a credit to the game :salute
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You do realize that Nath was kidding when he posted that... right?
Totally kidding, I though that would be obvious even by the grammar. Honch was my squaddie in "The Knights Who Say Ni!" at the time. Classic thread which I support 100%, especially rule #10.
(http://www.cash4chaos.com/photos/5FAF2CBF-3FFB-9F0E-A6C7136CBF2B2047_large.jpg)
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Silly thread.
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The amount of fun I had in the MA this tour was worth $1. The other $14 worth was a 30 minute dueling session with ink and H0ST in the DA.
...Which makes me curious, if you're looking for duels, why are you in the MA?
Wiley.
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...Which makes me curious, if you're looking for duels, why are you in the MA?
Wiley.
Because that's where 90% of the players are? That's also where the people I talk to are? And I don't know if you've noticed, go into the DA by yourself and into the furball lake. Half the people there don't know what a Immelmann is. The other half is flying Tempests and F4U4s and La-7s.
If I'm looking for duels, I ask for one over 200 and anyone who answers it goes to the dueling fields in the DA with me for 15-30 minutes. If youve been on 200 at all for the past year, you would know I offer DA matches almost every week.
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"If you want a fight and combat, why are you playing an air combat game? hmm? You stupido, dont you know this game is not about actual fighting, its about getting kills, doesnt matter how? Dont you know that all the red guys are rotten evil bastages who dont deserve anything else but get hoed or ganged? You want a fight? What the hell are you doing in the MA? Go to the DA, the furball lake is even worse tho, but idc, at least i have one more way to demonstrate my intellectual superiority over you and the "goodfite-honor-horselemon" tards. ACM? What the bloody hell is ACM? I dont need any ACM as i got 31 squaddies to clear my six when i am in trouble.
Behold: me! I am awesome and i dont give a damn about your opinion!"
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Because that's where 90% of the players are? That's also where the people I talk to are? And I don't know if you've noticed, go into the DA by yourself and into the furball lake. Half the people there don't know what a Immelmann is. The other half is flying Tempests and F4U4s and La-7s.
That doesn't answer my question. Why are you expecting to find duels in the MA? That's not what it's geared towards. It's a sandbox.
If I'm looking for duels, I ask for one over 200 and anyone who answers it goes to the dueling fields in the DA with me for 15-30 minutes. If youve been on 200 at all for the past year, you would know I offer DA matches almost every week.
Great! I'm glad you're able to find like-minded people. Doesn't change the fact that no matter how hard you wish for it, the MA is not there to provide you with a series of 1v1 duels while all the other people in the area hover overhead going 'Fight! Fight! Fight!'
You are not Chuck Norris. In the MA, people are not going to line up and come at you one at a time in a series of 1v1 fair fights. It's side based combat where the only thing stopping people from doing stuff is what is possible in the code, and what isn't. Why are you expecting otherwise?
Wiley.
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That doesn't answer my question. Why are you expecting to find duels in the MA? That's not what it's geared towards. It's a sandbox.
Great! I'm glad you're able to find like-minded people. Doesn't change the fact that no matter how hard you wish for it, the MA is not there to provide you with a series of 1v1 duels while all the other people in the area hover overhead going 'Fight! Fight! Fight!'
You are not Chuck Norris. In the MA, people are not going to line up and come at you one at a time in a series of 1v1 fair fights. It's side based combat where the only thing stopping people from doing stuff is what is possible in the code, and what isn't. Why are you expecting otherwise?
Wiley.
I don't expect it, I however, feel that I *should*, seeing as how this is a *combat* flight simulator. HO? Fine, it practices your gunnery and maybe one day you'll be a better pilot. Pick? Fine, it makes you learn E states and how to manuver at high speeds. But run? Why? Why are you even playing this game if all you do is run like a little cat at the first sign of trouble? Applies for bomb n bailers too.
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I don't expect it, I however, feel that I *should*, seeing as how this is a *combat* flight simulator. HO? Fine, it practices your gunnery and maybe one day you'll be a better pilot. Pick? Fine, it makes you learn E states and how to manuver at high speeds. But run? Why? Why are you even playing this game if all you do is run like a little cat at the first sign of trouble? Applies for bomb n bailers too.
I agree with everything exxept the runners. It is just dumb to expect a 190 to want to turn fight you in a k4, only way that figth happens is if the 190 has all the advantages. if not its runtime.
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Because you're really going to get better if all you do is fight fights in your favors. :joystick:
Even more baffling is when people run from a plane they KNOW they can't out run from. Then die as I slowly close on their 6. Why not just fight it out, you have a better chance than just flying in a straight line. :headscratch:
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But run? Why? Why are you even playing this game if all you do is run like a little cat at the first sign of trouble? Applies for bomb n bailers too.
First of all, define 'running'. Are you and he the only two planes for a sector in every direction, or are there 4 or 5 green planes headed your way? If I see enemy numbers headed my way and I don't think I'm going to be able to finish you in time, I'm probably going to bug out if I'm able. Sorry if that offends you.
What you seem to be expecting is once battle is joined, the enemy should be committed to killing you or dying. There is a third option. If you're about to kill them and they're in a faster plane, why should they not use the speed?
Why do you want your enemies to do anything less than their best to kill you and keep you from killing them? If we get into a fight and I'm limiting myself to half throttle on my plane and you kill me, is that going to feel as good as if I threw everything I had at you, and you killed me? I think not.
If someone kills me, it's because they overcame everything I had to use against them at that moment, and it wasn't enough. Everybody should expect the same out of their opponents.
Because you're really going to get better if all you do is fight fights in your favors. :joystick
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare adequately.
Get better at what? Fighting from the bottom? You're right. You get better at something by doing it. Guys that have refined fighting with advantage get better at fighting from advantage. Guys that have refined fighting from the bottom get better at fighting from the bottom. Guys that HO all the time get better at HOing. I've seen some truly refined HOs in this game.
Wiley.
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Because you're really going to get better if all you do is fight fights in your favors. :joystick:
Even more baffling is when people run from a plane they KNOW they can't out run from. Then die as I slowly close on their 6. Why not just fight it out, you have a better chance than just flying in a straight line. :headscratch:
Why worry about it in the first place play YOUR game. there are plenty of figths to be found.
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I'll run from a plane that can catch me if there is more than one.
One will always turn back.
Once alone, it's time to fight.
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I'll run from a plane that can catch me if there is more than one.
One will always turn back.
Once alone, it's time to fight.
:lol
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:rofl