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Title: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Eric19 on November 18, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
the T44 Russian medium I think should be added to the game it would be perked about the tiger1 or panther cost because of its enhanced armor over the T34-85 and T34-76 it uses the same gun as the T34-85 but has more armor and can do 33mph.  It was used in the last 3 days of the war on the Eastern Front in mass anyways it had seen other service earlier than that but that was with a special 100th which tested them on the Eastern front

fire away

Eric19 :salute
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 18, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
Didn't see actual combat in the Eastern Front as far as I can find.

Maybe you mean the Far East, as in the fighting with the Kwantung Army.


Also, would be a big strech to perk it along with the Panther and Tiger I, considering that it used an 85mm gun. That would be like saying a Panther with the Russian's 85mm would be worthy of its current perk price.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: EagleDNY on November 18, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
It was used in the last 3 days of the war on the Eastern Front in mass anyways it had seen other service earlier than that but that was with a special 100th which tested them on the Eastern front

We have NO British tanks.  I would rather see us round out the GVs with some British armor than add another Russian tank that only saw limited service. 
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Eric19 on November 18, 2012, 03:12:33 PM
We have NO British tanks.  I would rather see us round out the GVs with some British armor than add another Russian tank that only saw limited service. 
I know that I have posted that before as well this would be a quick add in because its essentialy a T34-85 with more armor and while there at it they can add the churchill and Cromwell and Comet
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 18, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
the T44 Russian medium I think should be added to the game it would be perked about the tiger1 or panther cost because of its enhanced armor over the T34-85 and T34-76 it uses the same gun as the T34-85 but has more armor and can do 33mph.  It was used in the last 3 days of the war on the Eastern Front in mass anyways it had seen other service earlier than that but that was with a special 100th which tested them on the Eastern front

fire away

Eric19 :salute

Only 3 T-44As saw any action on the Eastern Front when they were sent to be tested by the 100th Special Tank Company.  With the T-44A only seeing 3 days of action against the Japanese in the Far East, there are other vehicles that should be added before any additional Soviet tanks.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: realgood on November 18, 2012, 07:55:51 PM
 JS2 Russian hvy saw action from Jan 1944 to the end 1945 with a 122mm main gun had acrew of 4. Bottom half was a t34but the Top was the JS2 Russian hvy tank an could be perk  was about 3500 of them at wars end. :O   :x   :banana:  :banana:  :banana:   :airplane:  :joystick:  :old:   :salute   :bolt:
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Rino on November 18, 2012, 08:08:49 PM
     Yep, JS-2..fire once then log off until tomorrow when the gun finishes reloading  :D  Two part ammo means it's sloooooooow.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Butcher on November 18, 2012, 09:31:40 PM
Russians only produced the T-34 as a medium tank, others were either prototypes or simply didn't see service like the T-34/85. You have either the Heavy Tanks (KV series and IS) or light tanks (Calvary) the BT-7. As for early war, the BT-7 was replaced by the T-34, however many were built and served on the front lines where its 45mm L/46 gun wasn't all that bad against Early war German tanks (Panzer 2s and Panzer 3s).

As for Aces high, I'd much rather see a few Soviet support guns added, Everything from the Su-76, Su-85, Su-100, Su-122, Su-152 were all major factors in the soviet army during WW2.

Given SP's like the Su-152 are based on previous designs like the KV series - it would mean we can get more tanks added quicker in game, rather then having entirely different designs.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Eric19 on November 19, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
I found most of this on wiki so if you guys think it didn't serve then fine I understand but atleast go look at wiki
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Butcher on November 19, 2012, 09:21:21 AM
I found most of this on wiki so if you guys think it didn't serve then fine I understand but atleast go look at wiki

Watch this commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_I)

Not everything you read on the internet is right, and wikipedia is a very stretch. Wikipedia is a good starting point for beginners to find quick information, however you have to do your own research and make adjustments on whats correct and whats not.

I haven't even opened the books, but what I know off hand is a few hundred T-44s were built in 1945, however far as combat is concerned wikipedia posts it saw combat in the last few days of the war - I don't believe this. First of all, it was issued to training regiments in late 1944, which means problems need to be addressed before it goes into combat, why would Russia decide to start fielding T-44s in April 1945 when the war is won? Secondly Russia had not enough tanks in reserve to switch over medium tanks. The T-34 was doing just fine, the T-44 was due to replace it, but simply not enough were built.

I don't believe the T-44 was ever in combat in the west, It might of been in use in the far east, far as combat is concerned there is very limited info on the Russian/Japanese front.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Karnak on November 19, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
How fast could a Katyusha truck go?
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Slade on November 19, 2012, 11:18:16 AM
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We have NO British tanks.

At least give us a Matilda!   jk   I dont GV.

The Matilda however was used in large proportional numbers in North Africa.  Panzers made short work of them though.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2012, 12:51:17 PM
Russians only produced the T-34 as a medium tank, others were either prototypes or simply didn't see service like the T-34/85. You have either the Heavy Tanks (KV series and IS) or light tanks (Calvary) the BT-7. As for early war, the BT-7 was replaced by the T-34, however many were built and served on the front lines where its 45mm L/46 gun wasn't all that bad against Early war German tanks (Panzer 2s and Panzer 3s).

As for Aces high, I'd much rather see a few Soviet support guns added, Everything from the Su-76, Su-85, Su-100, Su-122, Su-152 were all major factors in the soviet army during WW2.

Given SP's like the Su-152 are based on previous designs like the KV series - it would mean we can get more tanks added quicker in game, rather then having entirely different designs.


     T-34/85 didn't see service?  :eek:

(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/ussr/tanks-medium/t-34-85/t-34-85-medium-tank-02.png)

(http://www.aberjonapress.com/catalog/sh/images/t34_85.jpg)

     Heck, even the Germans had one  :D
(http://beute.narod.ru/Beutepanzer/su/t-34/t-34-85/t-34_85_27.JPG)

Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2012, 12:53:27 PM
How fast could a Katyusha truck go?

     Weren't quite a few of those Studebakers or Dodges?  :D  So warp 12 like our convoys, even over tanks.  Plus they can fly over
runways while you wait at the EOR  :lol
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2012, 06:31:10 PM
    Weren't quite a few of those Studebakers or Dodges?  :D  So warp 12 like our convoys, even over tanks.  Plus they can fly over
runways while you wait at the EOR  :lol

ZIS-6 truck.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Katyusha_launcher_front.jpg/577px-Katyusha_launcher_front.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 19, 2012, 08:36:03 PM
As of now, the GV set could most stand to see:


Valentine tank. Coveres the widest time-span aside from the Churchill, mounting the 2lber, or 6lber, which would be quite capable in LW, provided it is allowed to have APDS.  Is was the most numerically important British tank, and would also give us the base for the Archer SP AT gun)

Panzer III. Primary German battle tank up to late 1942, early 1943. Last action it saw widespread useage in was Kursk, lead the German blitzkrieg across Poland, France, Africa, and the early Russia campaigns. Could mount 4 different guns": the 37mm, 50mm L/42, and 50mm L/60 in Early War, if we get 2 different models, and the 75mm L/24 in Mid War if we got a third model. Would provide the base for a StuG III

BT-7 A major player in EW, and would be capable of dealing with 37mm-armed Panzer III's in EW. Would be slighlty inferior to 50mm armed panzers, and the Valentine.

M3 Stuart. Just something to let the USA compete too. An M8 with more armor, less speed, and another machine gun.



Adding these four tanks would put the Panzer IV F2, and the T-34 into the perk-tank realm, reducing their useage, and letting the others have a chance. The Panzer III could knock out the T-34 out to a range of 300m, and the Panzer IV to over 2000m, Valentine could do so from about the same range, depending on the cut-off date for EW (it needs the 6lber to be a threat to the T-34).
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Eric19 on November 20, 2012, 06:59:24 AM
The pershing had slightly less armor than the M36 atleast on the front any ways
pershing: 4in
M36: 4.3in
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 20, 2012, 09:52:35 PM
The pershing had slightly less armor than the M36 atleast on the front any ways
pershing: 4in
M36: 4.3in

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: New Russian Medium tank....
Post by: Eric19 on November 21, 2012, 07:49:49 AM
Wrong thread.
yup I can't believe that lol