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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fudgums on December 14, 2012, 12:29:41 PM
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I know a few of you all live in Connecticut. I hope everyone is safe.
Prayers to the kids that died.
May god have no mercy on that man's soul.
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26 dead, including 18 children. What a coward.
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omg...over 2 dozen dead at this time.
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Just saw it on the news. I have no words past thoughts and prayers for the families and the dead. What an awfull thing.
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:pray
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Prayers, especially at a time like this.
I have three sons, 13, 11, and 8. They go to a small school in a town of about 150. But, the fact is that it can happen anywhere.
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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I know a few of you all live in Connecticut. I hope everyone is safe.
Prayers to the kids that died.
May god have no mercy on that man's soul.
hope not...he deserves no mercy
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Folks, do not try to make this about anything else. It will only get you suspended from the board. This is a tragedy and if you cannot respect that, then stay out of this thread.
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Amen, Skuzzy. My prayers to the families, students, and faculty. Makes me want to home-school my youngest (only one of my four kids still in K-12).
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Terrible thing that happened today. Just more proof that nobody is safe.
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My deepest condolences to anyone affected. I can't find the words...
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Nothing can be more devastating to any parent that what happened there today. So much innocence taken away. So much promise. All I can offer them is my prayers in the form of my tears. This should never happen to a child. Any child. Ever.
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Amen, Skuzzy. My prayers to the families, students, and faculty. Makes me want to home-school my youngest (only one of my four kids still in K-12).
Our 1 left in school is now home schooled, but, the chance of an armed robber entering the house while she is home and the adults are at work is probably better than an armed gunman entering her old school.
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:pray :angel: just heard about it at the bank, what a shame. Lots of this kinda thing happening these days, whats wrong with people????? :headscratch:
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Woke up to the news, my heart goes out to those parewnts :(
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:pray
:salute
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A horrible, horrible event. I really hope that we, as a nation, can have an adult conversation about why this is happening in our culture and what we can do to change that. No new laws or or government enforcement of something or anything like that, this is a cultural change that needs to be addressed by all of us in ourselves and those we know.
(I hope this post is in bounds.)
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When God calls little children
to dwell with him above,
We mortals sometime question
the wisdom of his love
For no heartache compares with
the death of a small child
Who does so much to make our world,
seem wonderful and mild
Perhaps God tires of calling
the aged to his fold,
So He picks a rosebud,
before he can grow old.
God knows how much we need them,
and so he takes but a few
To make the land of Heaven
more beautiful to view.
Believing this is difficult still
somehow we must try,
The saddest word mankind knows will always be "Goodbye."
So when a little child departs
we who are left behind
Must realize God loves children,
Angels are hard to find.
My familys prayers go out to all these poor parents, familys and friends affected by this horror.....senceless......utt erly senceless.
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My heartfelt sympathies to all the unfortunate families involved. What a society we have. Wonder how it got to this point?
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Flag at half staff. :(
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Prayers to the families. :pray
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Unreal... It was complete silence at work today as we all sat at our desks trying to absorb what we were seeing/hearing. Those poor kids.
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This could of happened at my daughter's school, not too far away. There is simply no way to stop some crazed psycho from killing someone when they have no fear of reprisals and wish to die themselves.
As I posted on Facebook, "To all future individuals with a death wish, please visit 'NAMBLA' (North American Man/Boy Love Association) Conventions, KKK gatherings, or Death Row at the local prison. If you insist on taking someone with you when you end your pitiful life, at least take someone that deserves it."
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Children.
I can understand High School shootings, as someone who has been bullied seriously before, the idea of getting your own back is a natural one. Outcasts and shootings are two things that go together too often. Doesn't make it right, but it makes sense in a psychopathic way.
But children.... 5 year old's.... why? What for? What did they do? They are young innocent people who haven't wronged anyone, why?
I plan on having children when I'm older, I love my little cousins to absolute death, (teaching them to fly Aces High was a one way ticket to augerville)
I cannot imagine why anyone would do such a terrible thing.
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Children.
I can understand High School shootings, as someone who has been bullied seriously before, the idea of getting your own back is a natural one. Outcasts and shootings are two things that go together too often. Doesn't make it right, but it makes sense in a psychopathic way.
That might have been the most asinine thing I have ever read on an internet forum. Never have I have seen anyone think a school shooting would be understandable.
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HIGH SCHOOL shootings.
If you have been habitually bullied before you would understand. Your mind goes to dark places.
99% of people have that block in their heads that say, killing is wrong, revenge solves nothing. Its the 1% that don't. Fantasists, Psychopaths and Sociopaths, are classed as weird and cast out from the school society and even targeted for bullying. Cause to effect, their conditions mean that they have no inhibitors to violence and essentially no conscience.
Hence if they are not treated by a psychiatric specialist or on medication. The result can be tragic.
The example of this is Columbine, Eric Harris suffered various psychiatric conditions, and was bullied as a result, his friend, Dylan, was also bullied because of their association and hence, they pledged revenge, which they conducted.
I do not mean understandable as a justification, I mean it in the sense that you can understand WHY.
It is not right.. in any way shape or form, but the cause is clear.
My point is why would ANYONE, shoot up a Primary school...... why?
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HIGH SCHOOL shootings.
If you have been habitually bullied before you would understand. Your mind goes to dark places.
99% of people have that block in their heads that say, killing is wrong, revenge solves nothing. Its the 1% that don't.
I do not mean understandable as a justification, I mean it in the sense that you can understand WHY.
This generation has been coddled so much they have no idea what true bullying is. What used to be a "go out back and settle your differences" has turned into an arrest able offence.
Fud is correct. Your post is about as asinine as I've read, also. Both of them.
We're truly fu..ed.
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So... understanding why someone does things is wrong?
And immediately condemning them as heartless evil salamanders with no motive who did it for fun is right?
and I'm being called asinine.
Lovely
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This generation has been coddled so much they have no idea what true bullying is. What used to be a "go out back and settle your differences" has turned into an arrest able offence.
Fud is correct. Your post is about as asinine as I've read, also. Both of them.
We're truly fu..ed.
You defend yourself in a school, you get suspended. Regardless of whatever evidence of bullying you might have. That's enough to put on your transcript and pretty much F up your college applications. I agree, public schools are stupid.
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Yep
I got a charge sheet (I was under 18 so I didn't get a criminal record) for assault for "settling my differences"
and suspended for 1 week from classes, which caused me to fail a subject.
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Plaw, There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you said. The truth hurts. It's not like you are making it up. I don't know id fud and dun are in denial or what? I don't see how what you wrote is in any way asinine.
My heart goes out to these poor families. I was playing with my 2 (almost 3) year old son tonight and I actually broke into tears knowing there are 18 families that will never get to do the same thing with their children again. I just cant imagine if someone called me at work to tell me my son had been murdered. Nothing will ever help these families recover.
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Easy gents, easy gents.
I don't think Plawranc meant any harm. If I'm interpreting him right he's just pointing out that it's impossible to even guess what the motive might be for some random person to shoot a random five year old. I don't think he's calling Columbine or anything else "understandable" in the "forgivable" or "reasonable" or "justified" sense at all, I think he's just pointing out that it's easier to find a motive when it's teen vs. teen than when it's teen vs. pre-schooler.
I'm sure he meant no harm.
Back on topic... I have grown up with all these shootings but it feels very different to have it happen in my own state. It reminds me of a quote from Calvin and Hobbes: "A man's house should be his castle, but it shouldn't have to be his fortress."
This was a terrible day.
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That might have been the most asinine thing I have ever read on an internet forum. Never have I have seen anyone think a school shooting would be understandable.
This might be the most idiotic reply to anything ever said.
He said he understood WHY someone would do it. Not that he understands that they happen. Being bullied and picked on can lead to some nasty things in high school. Last week some kid finally had enough and beat the living crap out of some kid after he pushed him too far. The guy who was picking on him had a broken nose and lost a good amount of blood in the first 5 minutes. It took 7 teachers to pry the kid off of the bully.
Now back to the shooting - If you're killing children at the age of and around 6, you really have some issues. There shouldn't be any motive to do such a thing. That's just beyond me.
You defend yourself in a school, you get suspended. Regardless of whatever evidence of bullying you might have. That's enough to put on your transcript and pretty much F up your college applications. I agree, public schools are stupid.
If you ask me, that is just a BS rule in schools. Even if you're defending yourself against a cracked out meth junkie in the halls you're still gonna get slapped with a disorderly conduct ticket and possibly an O.S.S.
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Thank you Vudak. :salute
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Anyways, my heart goes out for the families affected. :salute
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Only hour away from hometown and hour away from where I am currently going for medical school. Radiates fast especially on Facebook the emotions from the event. Know many friends from undergraduate who grew up and live in the town and went to that very school growing up and actually live only a couple streets from the elementary school.
While I am not stirring the pot by any means, after reading a update on the story it sounds very fishy. The mom bought her son the guns. The mom was found dead at her son's place where she should have been at work at that school where she taught kindergarten. The shooter was buzzed in by the security guard. Most visitors have to check in before going anywhere in school especially during school hours. How the security didnt see the shooter wearing a bullet proof vest and strapped with guns is very strange. While can hide the guns, a bullet proof vest cant 100% be concealable can it? The shooter than went to the kindergarten class where his mom taught and began the shooting. After reading the update it just sounds very strange in my head.
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Front doors aren't locked. Sounds like it started in the office. I don't imagine they had someone watching the door. The mom was a substitute teacher so wouldn't always been at the school. I know my son had guns in my name as he wasn't old enough to buy them but I did for him, etc.
Too much we don't know
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Front doors aren't locked. Sounds like it started in the office. I don't imagine they had someone watching the door. The mom was a substitute teacher so wouldn't always been at the school. I know my son had guns in my name as he wasn't old enough to buy them but I did for him, etc.
Too much we don't know
This is from CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
"Hochsprung, the slain principal, had recently installed a new security system to ensure student safety.
Under the new system, every visitor was required to ring a doorbell at the front entrance after the doors locked at 9:30 a.m. and report to the main office to sign in."
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Absolutely heartbreaking... I just can't imagine...
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Are you serious?
This might be the most idiotic reply to anything ever said.
He said he understood WHY someone would do it. Not that he understands that they happen. Being bullied and picked on can lead to some nasty things in high school. Last week some kid finally had enough and beat the living crap out of some kid after he pushed him too far. The guy who was picking on him had a broken nose and lost a good amount of blood in the first 5 minutes. It took 7 teachers to pry the kid off of the bully.
Beating the crap out of a bully is totally different than shooting up a school. I have no words how you can possibly find any reason in what some sick SOB would even think of shooting up a school.
Innocent people died, innocent teachers died, and your finding reason in what they did? How dare you sir, go tell that to the families of their children that were shot.
I can only see one motive when a kid shoots up a school, and that they're a mentally sick POS. If you have a bully, you settle it one on one, but if you take innocent lives, your worse than the bully.
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Are you serious?
Beating the crap out of a bully is totally different than shooting up a school. I have no words how you can possibly find any reason in what some sick SOB would even think of shooting up a school.
Innocent people died, innocent teachers died, and your finding reason in what they did? How dare you sir, go tell that to the families of their children that were shot.
I can only see one motive when a kid shoots up a school, and that they're a mentally sick POS. If you have a bully, you settle it one on one, but if you take innocent lives, your worse than the bully.
I think you are completely missing the point
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Are you serious?
Beating the crap out of a bully is totally different than shooting up a school. I have no words how you can possibly find any reason in what some sick SOB would even think of shooting up a school.
Innocent people died, innocent teachers died, and your finding reason in what they did? How dare you sir, go tell that to the families of their children that were shot.
I can only see one motive when a kid shoots up a school, and that they're a mentally sick POS. If you have a bully, you settle it one on one, but if you take innocent lives, your worse than the bully.
When did I say that the guy killing children and teachers was acceptable?
And more importantly, why do you still not understand a single thing being said? I was simply agreeing with Plawranc. In high school some bad things can happen due to bullying, but killing children isn't like that. Grown men don't normally go around killing children because they picked on him. Its more likely to be a psychological problem.
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All I can say is, I am heartbroken at the loss of 27 innocent lives, and the worst part is 20 of them were children. Albeit they all were innocent but to have 20 children killed is pure heartbreak.
My :pray go out to the family's of all lost.
:pray go out to the 1st responders for having to see the innocence lost.
:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: have been raised to a higher plane.
Give the families the strength to get through this tragedy and make a day of tragedy less painful as the days go on.
LawnDart
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I think you are completely missing the point
Completely get the point but I can't find any understanding in any school shooting.
When did I say that the guy killing children and teachers was acceptable?
And more importantly, why do you still not understand a single thing being said? I was simply agreeing with Plawranc. In high school some bad things can happen due to bullying, but killing children isn't like that. Grown men don't normally go around killing children because they picked on him. Its more likely to be a psychological problem.
Did you understand anything that I said? You agreed that there was an understanding that you saw in school shootings(and I am speaking of school shootings in general).
Now if you say that if a kid is being bullied and he beats the crap out of the bully. That's how you treat a bully, you punch him in the nose ,and I 110% agree with you there, but there is no way that I can possibly see that there is any understanding of a school shooting.
I never said anything about accepting it, but trying to find any understanding is just beyond belief for me.
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Completely get the point but I can't find any understanding in any school shooting.
Did you understand anything that I said? You agreed that there was an understanding that you saw in school shootings(and I am speaking of school shootings in general).
Now if you say that if a kid is being bullied and he beats the crap out of the bully. That's how you treat a bully, you punch him in the nose ,and I 110% agree with you there, but there is no way that I can possibly see that there is any understanding of a school shooting.
I never said anything about accepting it, but trying to find any understanding is just beyond belief for me.
Hear that? That's the sound of a jet flying right over your head.
I said that high school shootings (why they are done) is understandable if bullying was a factor. Now the fact that they are unacceptable is a totally different concept. Understand why, and letting it happen and being fine with it, are 2 different things.
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I said that high school shootings (why they are done) is understandable
There is nothing more that needed to be included in your post.
Watch out, the point may hit you in the head in a decade or so.
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And yet the sick people from Westboro Baptist are already praising the shooter. They better not come to CT like they went to the Amish school shooting funeral.
http://blogs.sparenot.com/
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The kid, obviously troubled, should of just shot himself.
Really sad.
To all those familes....... :pray
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There is nothing more that needed to be included in your post.
Watch out, the point may hit you in the head in a decade or so.
You don't get it either.
Am I surrounded by incompetent people who are unable to find a point in text? The point is why they are understandable. I understand that if some guy is picked on enough, he will bring a gun and kill people. Was that a bit over the deep end to do that? Hell yes. Is it an acceptable thing to do? Absolutely not. That's the point here. What i'm saying is that I could understand why someone would do that given the previous actions taken against the person. I'm not saying that its a good or even acceptable thing to do.
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:pray :angel:
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you guys are gonna get suspended and rightfully so from the bb. this is not the place or time to be arguing about who misunderstood what from whom. also please dont post links to some misunderstood people it's not the place either.
it's a sad thing that children died. it's a time to pray for them not argue about nothing.
midway
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^^ this
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Truly Saddened !
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Six people suspended, so far. Just letting you know I am serious about this. If you people cannot maintain a level of common decency and respect, then you will to go away.
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I am still speechless what would drive someone to do that it Makes me cry thinking about all those families without children for the Holidays it just to damn awful :cry :pray and may god have not mercy on that mans soul
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I just dont understand WHY someone would WANT to kill a child :headscratch: :( :cry deepest condolences to those who where affected by this horrible tradgedy. :pray :pray
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I've been in news broadcasting for over a decade and in that time I've covered just about everything you can imagine, including the Virginia Tech shootings......
Even with all I've seen this still hit me like a ton of bricks.
Guys besides keeping all the family's of this tragedy in your prayers also keep emergency workers and police officers that have to deal with this in your prayers.
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Senseless Tragedy :cry & :pray :angel:
Oz
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Prayers go out! Tsk tsk fud..
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Heart and soul cannot comprehend this.
Such shocking and senseless brutality.
Our prayers and thoughts for all those affected, from myself and family in England.
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They really need to further humiliate these loser/cowards after they take their own life so others know what to expect if they think of doing something similar.
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They really need to further humiliate these loser/cowards after they take their own life so others know what to expect if they think of doing something similar.
The best way to do that is to never publish or mention their name. Never give them any of the infamy they might have been seeking.
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:pray to all involved .I dont have any words for this..it's just sickening.