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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: WyoKId on December 30, 2012, 04:55:13 PM
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Face to face with a an enemy the other day . I was hull down on a hill , about 200 yrds. out . He killed me with the pintle gun . I didn't think it was possible . Anyone else ever get a kill , or die like that ?
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What were you in? Some fellas use the pintle to figure where the main gun is gonna hit when they have a so so angle on an enemy tank, and then fire. This may of happened to you.
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh No !!!!!! :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
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Shot through the window slit and shot you in the FACE! Bam! headshot
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I've killed a couple of Panzers with the MG in the Jeep but the only way to do it is from behind them hitting the engine compartment.
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i immediately wonder if you have film and watched it.. possibly you got killed by someone you didn't see?
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i once killed a tiger with a 20mm from my spit9. I may have hit him with some .303's too as I was marking him for the tanks on the ground.
midway
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i once killed a tiger with a 20mm from my spit9. I may have hit him with some .303's too as I was marking him for the tanks on the ground.
midway
Killed as in you were awarded the kill when he bailed or something?
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Killed as in you were awarded the kill when he bailed or something?
"Opps just seen they where talking about a tiger... saying that. at 25mm top hull armor for the tiger there is still a slim chance to kill it with the 20s from 42 and the 1943 AP rounds could Penetration at 200 yards (30 degrees) 48mm of harden steel."
No reason the spits 20s could not knock out a panzer 4 if the shot was taken a very close range and a reasonably high angle. The chart below shows that the 11mm top hull and 16mm top turret could be penetrated by the Hispano rounds issued after mid 42.
Penetration of Hispano ammunition July 1942 against High Hardness plate.
Type Penetration at 200 yards (0 degrees) Penetration at 200 yards (20 degrees) Penetration at 200 yards (40 degrees) Penetration at 400 yards (0 degrees)
A.P. Mark IIZ 27 24 19 24
A.P/I. Mk.IZ 20 19 15 -
Ball Mk IZ 12 11 9 10
H.E/I. Mk IZ 8 - - -
http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96:hispano-20mm-armour-piercing-ammunition&catid=44:gunsrockets&Itemid=60
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No reason the spits 20s could not knock out a panzer 4 if the shot was taken a very close range and a reasonably high angle.
And thusly the era of the Spitfirte tank killer is born. I forsee alot of augering spitfires.
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And thusly the era of the Spitfirte tank killer is born. I forsee alot of augering spitfires.
If HTC modeled the 1943 Mrk III AP round then yes. a lot of tanks would be even bigger sitting ducks for mossies, spits, hurries and typhies.
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Killed as in you were awarded the kill when he bailed or something?
no kill as in he blew up when the 20mm hit him. I also got called for having some kind of hack.
midway
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Hmm. Nope, I've not ever destroyed a tank with an MG. Not every really tried. I have however used a jeep with great effect vs an M3, M8, and M18.
Many people forget that once the turret is out on the M8 and M18 it has no armament at all (ditto for the Firefly). With the .50 cal HMG on the jeep, I've destroyed M3's and M8's, and turreted M18's and Wirby's.
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And thusly the era of the Spitfirte tank killer is born. I forsee alot of augering spitfires.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Decides that next tours aim will be to pork odds and kill tanks with a c202.
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I was awarded kills, same mission, in an M3 machine gunning a T-34/85 and Pz IVH.
The T34/85 may have bailed, but the Pz IV H blew up in front of me. I have the film somewhere.
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<<<<just got killed tonight in my m18 by a jeep :mad:
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<<<<just got killed tonight in my m18 by a jeep :mad:
That's very easy. It's possible to kill a m18 with a stitches rear gun and that's a 7.7mm
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I remember when you could drive a jeep into the inside of an enemy tank (any type) and kill it by using the MG. Funny stuff, but pizzed off a lot of folks.
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Do some research and see how much armor the US M2 Browning .50 cal can defeat at specific ranges. A jeep can disable an M3, SdKfz 251, M8, M18, M16 MGMC, Ostwind, Wirblewind, and both LVT's. At minimum a jeep can disable the turret. Think of AH as being one big rock-paper-scissors game. Aces High is ultimately one big round robin and "on any given Sunday" one thing can destroy another. The only exception is the C47 because it has no way of delivering any offensive damage (other than collision).
There is a reason the M18 was used as a tank hunter and only a tank hunter. Anytime it was mixed up in with enemy infantry it was as good as dead. Ultimately, it had no more armor than the M8 with even less ability against infantry (M8 has 2 MG's).
Oh... I will again use this post to remind people to take along some HE regardless of your mission because the HE will easily deal with the fast movers. You do not need a direct hit with HE to disable the M18, M8, M3, or jeep. A near miss will disable their turret, blow a tire, damage a track, or even disable the engine. With AP you need a direct hit and that is not easy for anyone vs a M18, m3, M8, or jeep, moving full speed in and around trees and moguls at 1600 yards. Take and use HE. Trust me.
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The only exception is the C47 because it has no way of delivering any offensive damage (other than collision).
I was wondering about this - would it be possible for a C47 to kill another plane by dropping troops and using them as "aerial mines" that an enemy plane can run into? Or do troops turn into a harmless red mist as soon as they hit the prop of a pursuing plane?