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Title: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: USAFCAPcTSgt on January 03, 2013, 06:08:15 AM
For those among us who have played the game for years, it is a love/hate relationship for this game.  It's time to take that complexity to the next level.  We, the Players, should work together to buy this game and have HiTech Creations work for us directly.

I propose we form a coalition of players to pool together massive amounts of lotto tickets each drawing.  Players wishing to be an equal part owner would have to put up front a small Buy-in fee that is refundable should they choose to leave.

Once the grand jackpot has been won worth millions, we buy the game for $1,000,000 dollars and retain the staff and increase their wages.  The new owners get to choose the new aircraft and vehicles plus other additions to the game.

All in favor raise your hand and say,"I'll but that for a dollar!"



Details to be worked out by those interested in the takeover operations.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: RTHolmes on January 03, 2013, 06:18:07 AM
 :huh
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: zarkov on January 03, 2013, 06:23:06 AM
Is HTC privately owned?

If so, buying it out isn't an option.

It would be like me walking up to someone and saying:

Me:  I have money.  I'm buying your house.

Someone:  But my house isn't for sale.

Me:  IRRELEVANT!  I have money.

At least that's my common-sense take on it.

The last time someone got really p-ed off by an on-line sim and wanted change, they had to go and try to make their own.

Target Rabaul, I believe it was.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: 68ZooM on January 03, 2013, 06:40:31 AM
( the don voice from the godfather)  we'll make them an offer they can't refuse.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: uptown on January 03, 2013, 06:58:55 AM
 :rofl who is this clown?  :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Drano on January 03, 2013, 07:23:12 AM
:rofl who is this clown?  :rofl

I know, right!  :rofl

Makes ya wonder what HE'S smoking! Lot of that goin around it seems.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Noir on January 03, 2013, 07:24:00 AM
this thread has clear potential :aok
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Max on January 03, 2013, 07:32:41 AM
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Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 03, 2013, 07:47:29 AM
Me thinks HTC is not for sale... but everything has its price. 

While I agree that AH is lacking in certain areas, it is still the top dog in terms of air combat sims thanks to rather good flight model.

My biggest issue with AH is the hardness values assigned to the ground game, the rank and scoring system, and the lack of an accurate ENY/OBJ system. 

HTC has done well over the years I do believe, granted if they did have the funding perhaps another "coader" or two may speed up the addition of new aircraft and the updating of current aircraft (been in a SBD or C205 lately?).

There are lots of things we down here in the trenches have no clue on what is going on the behind closed doors of HTC.  I say give them the benefit of the doubt.  ;)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: RipRap on January 03, 2013, 07:52:58 AM
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Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Torquila on January 03, 2013, 08:04:51 AM
zarkov, the guys who made "Target Rabaul" were not game designers, just sim enthusiasts. They never understood what makes a game "good", only that they wanted it as realistic as possible, because in their closed little minds they thought everyone else wanted that.

NOBODY WANTS REALISM IN A GAME WITHOUT A HINT OF INSANITY. :D
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: ozrocker on January 03, 2013, 08:35:29 AM
HTC should go public, and long time players get stock. Free of course  :aok


                                                                                                                  :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Stampf on January 03, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
:rofl who is this clown?  :rofl

Same botard who suggested we get rid of CM's in FSO.

Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: hitech on January 03, 2013, 09:46:54 AM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: tunnelrat on January 03, 2013, 09:50:32 AM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

Can you put in a caveat that if it's purchased by a lotto winner it's 50% of their winnings or $10M, whichever is higher?

Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Lusche on January 03, 2013, 09:53:39 AM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

I will talk to my wife about that.  :noid
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Megalodon on January 03, 2013, 11:49:09 AM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

 Sounds fair... 5 mil.

We put you and your team under contract for 10 years.

We will make you VP

You immediately start work on a new engine and AH3.

You will implement multilingual support.

You will add the Spit16, 51d, K4 and La7 plane factories.

You will give us the Death Star and the Bomb Ride.

You will give us an In-game Duel Function.



And last but not least...  You will add the Dewoitine  D.520 and the CAC Boomerang adding new countries to OUR game.   :x :rock


When can we cut the deal?

 :cheers:


Edit: Sweeten the deal...

We will add the spring lamb from all the herds in Wellington and a Barrel of you favorite Malted beverage.   :)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Noir on January 03, 2013, 11:52:28 AM
When can we cut the deal?

show the money  :noid
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Megalodon on January 03, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
show the money  :noid


 Give me a minute  :aok

My share where is yours?

(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/5+Million+Dollars+Cash+Displayed+Seminole+9ZisAd6KZI0l.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: bj229r on January 03, 2013, 12:17:18 PM
I demand longer lunch breaks.....free health insurance....and unlimited wep for jugs
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: captain1ma on January 03, 2013, 12:28:11 PM
Can you put in a caveat that if it's purchased by a lotto winner it's 50% of their winnings or $10M, whichever is higher?



ill see your $10M and raise you $2M!
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: matt on January 03, 2013, 12:41:52 PM
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Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: f35raptor on January 03, 2013, 12:53:01 PM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

I bet you where just laughing inside when you read this post. Ill put in my 5 and give hitech my 81 transam next year when completed. : p
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: hitech on January 03, 2013, 01:16:40 PM
We put you and your team under contract for 10 years.

Nope this is show stopper.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: tunnelrat on January 03, 2013, 01:19:52 PM
What you do is angel invest the money, and let them continue to do what they have done for the last ten years... produce a whole lot of awesome on an indie budget.

If you disagree you can always go check out the wide selection of competitors...   :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: USAFCAPcTSgt on January 03, 2013, 02:19:47 PM
Same botard who suggested we get rid of CM's in FSO.



I suggested for one FSO to have no CIC's to have the squad CO's work together.  You have o have CM's to run the event.


You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

We have offer and counter-offer.  Negotiation can commence.  We raise the bid to $3,000,000.00 and throw in a VIP package for a week at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, spend the summer in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House, expunge all speeding and parking tickets, and the big kicker.





We get them to bring back 8 track tapes. :pray
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: VuduVee on January 03, 2013, 02:47:38 PM
lol no chance i want someone else owning this game. pretty damgood just like it is
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Wiley on January 03, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
lol no chance i want someone else owning this game. pretty damgood just like it is

Oh come on, design by committee has worked so spectacularly well for many online games!  There was... er...   :bolt:

Wiley.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Drano on January 03, 2013, 03:14:32 PM
Why is it we constantly seem to get guys coming in here and after two weeks or so they seem to think they know what "we" need to make this game better? They haven't been in the game long enough to figure out how to put their friggin gear up but they know. It's just annoying. The FSO thing just left me shakin my head. Must be some good crack goin around.

I'm with the get thy buttocks back to X-box tribe.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: 1sum41 on January 03, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
I will talk to my wife about that.  :noid
Well what did she say? :D
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 03, 2013, 03:20:24 PM
For those among us who have played the game for years, it is a love/hate relationship for this game.  It's time to take that complexity to the next level.  We, the Players, should work together to buy this game and have HiTech Creations work for us directly.

I propose we form a coalition of players to pool together massive amounts of lotto tickets each drawing.  Players wishing to be an equal part owner would have to put up front a small Buy-in fee that is refundable should they choose to leave.

Once the grand jackpot has been won worth millions, we buy the game for $1,000,000 dollars and retain the staff and increase their wages.  The new owners get to choose the new aircraft and vehicles plus other additions to the game.

All in favor raise your hand and say,"I'll but that for a dollar!"



Details to be worked out by those interested in the takeover operations.

Ummm...no.

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Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: TheBug on January 03, 2013, 03:25:53 PM
Ummm...no.

(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/demotivational-posters-imagination.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 03, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
Oh and.....

(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac300/Changeup1/demotivational-poster-10085.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Aspen on January 03, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
"Hey guys I found something cool!  Lets screw it up!"
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: waystin2 on January 03, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
Who boy.  How did I miss this one?  :lol

Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: ROC on January 03, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
Don't worry, you didn't miss a thing lol
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: bustr on January 03, 2013, 05:20:13 PM
If this is like purchasing any normal software house, you need to make a direct offer for intellectual property and patent rights to Mr. Hitech aside from the outright purchase of his company.

Without those he can sell you the current business entity and code while taking his genius else where. $5Mil sounds about right for that excluding the patents and genius. Who knows, he may have one more competitive venture in him that will migrate your customers away from your AH just like they did from War Birds to his AH. He has a very talented history of creating games and customers following him to newer better games. You could never pay him personaly enough to stay on as your coad slave while giving away his genius for a paycheck I will venture.

Why do you think he would?
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: JunkyII on January 03, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
I suggested for one FSO to have no CIC's to have the squad CO's work together.  You have o have CM's to run the event.


We have offer and counter-offer.  Negotiation can commence.  We raise the bid to $3,000,000.00 and throw in a VIP package for a week at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, spend the summer in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House, expunge all speeding and parking tickets, and the big kicker.





We get them to bring back 8 track tapes.
:pray
Watch any Bruce Willis movies lately?
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Gryffin on January 03, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that the original poster is Hitech in disguise making some retirement plans?  :noid
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 03, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that the original poster is Hitech in disguise making some retirement plans?  :noid
Yes....yes you are.  :D
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Hajo on January 03, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
:rofl who is this clown?  :rofl

I thought the government closed down all Meth Clinics some years back?
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: kilo2 on January 03, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
For those among us who have played the game for years, it is a love/hate relationship for this game.  It's time to take that complexity to the next level.  We, the Players, should work together to buy this game and have HiTech Creations work for us directly.

I propose we form a coalition of players to pool together massive amounts of lotto tickets each drawing.  Players wishing to be an equal part owner would have to put up front a small Buy-in fee that is refundable should they choose to leave.

Once the grand jackpot has been won worth millions, we buy the game for $1,000,000 dollars and retain the staff and increase their wages.  The new owners get to choose the new aircraft and vehicles plus other additions to the game.

All in favor raise your hand and say,"I'll but that for a dollar!"



Details to be worked out by those interested in the takeover operations.

You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/BloodyBandage/35ze3t_zps748bf267.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: USAFCAPcTSgt on January 03, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Watch any Bruce Willis movies lately?

Why?  Is he important?


If I win Powerball in the near future and decide to buy this game, then everyone will wished they jumped into this once in a lifetime oppurtunity.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Torquila on January 03, 2013, 07:56:54 PM
This thread is funny.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Traveler on January 04, 2013, 08:08:42 AM
Is HTC privately owned?

If so, buying it out isn't an option.

It would be like me walking up to someone and saying:

Me:  I have money.  I'm buying your house.

Someone:  But my house isn't for sale.

Me:  IRRELEVANT!  I have money.

At least that's my common-sense take on it.

The last time someone got really p-ed off by an on-line sim and wanted change, they had to go and try to make their own.

Target Rabaul, I believe it was.
Interestingly enough that’s exactly how I bought my home 30 years ago.  We drove up and down the streets in the Town we wanted to live in , made a list of addresses that we wanted to see and contacted a realtor.  Of the 15 or so that we liked , three agreed to discuss selling.  So it does work, however, AH is privately held with several investors.  One would have to approach them and the OP’s  price tag is way off the mark. 
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Shifty on January 04, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
If I win Powerball in the near future and decide to buy this game, then everyone will wished they jumped into this once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

(http://www.jesseshunting.com/images/3stooges_face_palm.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: fbEagle on January 04, 2013, 04:39:35 PM
Is HTC privately owned?

If so, buying it out isn't an option.

It would be like me walking up to someone and saying:

Me:  I have money.  I'm buying your house.

Someone:  But my house isn't for sale.

Me:  IRRELEVANT!  I have money.

At least that's my common-sense take on it.

The last time someone got really p-ed off by an on-line sim and wanted change, they had to go and try to make their own.

Target Rabaul, I believe it was.

False. Everything is for sale for the right amount ;)
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Mongoose on January 04, 2013, 10:43:59 PM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

I would say raise it 10 fold.  It's worth at least that much.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: trigger2 on January 05, 2013, 04:35:29 AM
We put you and your team under contract for 10 years.

Nope this is show stopper.

Gutsy... but alright, I guess we can do 15...
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: USAFCAPcTSgt on January 05, 2013, 05:49:11 AM
It's Saturday.  Make sure you buy them lotto tickets.  Powerball or Mega Millions.




Brave sould to mortgage your house and sell all items then head to the nearest casino and bet everything on Red 5.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 05, 2013, 09:06:08 AM
For those among us who have played the game for years, it is a love/hate relationship for this game.  It's time to take that complexity to the next level.  We, the Players, should work together to buy this game and have HiTech Creations work for us directly.

I propose we form a coalition of players to pool together massive amounts of lotto tickets each drawing.  Players wishing to be an equal part owner would have to put up front a small Buy-in fee that is refundable should they choose to leave.

Once the grand jackpot has been won worth millions, we buy the game for $1,000,000 dollars and retain the staff and increase their wages.  The new owners get to choose the new aircraft and vehicles plus other additions to the game.

All in favor raise your hand and say,"I'll but that for a dollar!"



Details to be worked out by those interested in the takeover operations.

Seems to me Hitech and HTC in general is already working for us. If we at any time dont like what they are doing. we can fire them by quitting and it wont cost us a cent.

Which would certainly be cheaper then buying it only to have it go inevitably under. Not to mention the aggravation factor that would take place with a couple hundred "owners" all wanting things done their own way.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Mongoose on January 05, 2013, 10:14:43 AM
Not to mention the aggravation factor that would take place with a couple hundred "owners" all wanting things done their own way.

  We already have that.  Which is why having Hitech as the owner is still our best solution.   :salute  :cheers:
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: 5PointOh on January 05, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
I think the better idea is to fund HT enough cash to hire some more employees.  HT is reasonable,I'm sure if you paid for payroll and benefits, I'd bet HT would let you pick the next plane.
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 05, 2013, 01:50:19 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

You guys are Dreaming!!!!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 05, 2013, 06:27:11 PM
This is a BS thread...turds.

GO HERE!!.............http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,343697.0.html
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Devonai on January 06, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
Throwing a metric ton of cash at game development is guaranteed success!  Just ask Curt Schilling!
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 06, 2013, 04:44:52 PM
Throwing a metric ton of cash at game development is guaranteed success!  Just ask Curt Schilling!

Its not worth his sock now...
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Daddkev on January 06, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
 :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead This is dumb !  :old: :old: :old: :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Megalodon on January 07, 2013, 12:08:54 PM

Fantastic!

We agree You stipulate to everything else :)


But
Nope this is show stopper.

 Yes it is...  this game is worth about as much as the space between my thumb and forefinger when I make the okay sign without you and your team. Anybody who buys this game and does not tie you to it would be foolish.

Let me ask.. is it you or your team  or ten years you object to?

 :cheers:



Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: hitech on January 07, 2013, 01:54:58 PM
Fantastic!

We agree You stipulate to everything else :)


But
 Yes it is...  this game is worth about as much as the space between my thumb and forefinger when I make the okay sign without you and your team. Anybody who buys this game and does not tie you to it would be foolish.

Let me ask.. is it you or your team  or ten years you object to?

 :cheers:


All of the above.
1. Me , I tried working for someone else at a game company In which I  previously was the boss, it didn't end well.
2. You can't make a contract with out giving the person something, what exactly was included in the offer to the current employs including me.
3. 10 years , yea that's works just great given the past of #1.

HiTech
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: 1ijac on January 07, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
One might look around in the arenas and think "Why in the hell would I want to be partners in a business with all these folks?"  The partnerships I've been in over the years never really worked out.  They never seemed to get it when I said "We'll do it my way".

one-eye
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Ardy123 on January 07, 2013, 05:21:48 PM
You may wish to raise that price tag about 5 fold.

HiTech

hmm 5x revenue multiplier....  prob a PE of ~25 hmm, we all need dreams  :D
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 07, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
hmm 5x revenue multiplier....  prob a PE of ~25 hmm, we all need dreams  :D


He didn't say it was WORTH that much....he said that's how much it would COST.  :D

(Ima bet that the PE @ 5M is about 110) :devil
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: guncrasher on January 07, 2013, 10:26:21 PM
All of the above.
1. Me , I tried working for someone else at a game company In which I  previously was the boss, it didn't end well.
2. You can't make a contract with out giving the person something, what exactly was included in the offer to the current employs including me.
3. 10 years , yea that's works just great given the past of #1.

HiTech

how about this offer.  forget the 5 million bucks.  each one of us pays let's say 15 bucks a month, you own the game, control direction and every once in a while you ad a plane or a tank or perhaps some new medals for us to win.

is this offer better?


midway
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: bj229r on January 08, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
Wonder how many software designers know ANYthing about the aerodynamic concepts incorporated into this game
Title: Re: Aces High Player Buyout Group
Post by: Changeup on January 08, 2013, 05:30:52 PM
Wonder how many software designers know ANYthing about the aerodynamic concepts incorporated into this game

They're mathematical formulas programmed to direct lift vectors for the airframes and wings.  I sat in HiTechs office and he tried as best he could to describe it.  I didn't get it but it didn't matter because it looked unbelievably cool on his monitor.

He was nice enough to run through their QC process on verifying the integrity of their flight modeling.  Very very cool