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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ozrocker on January 17, 2013, 08:29:56 PM
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Finally had the ball to tell the truth.
:cheers: Oz
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Making a mistake is one thing, lying about it repeatedly is another entirely. I'm of the opinion that he only came clean (pardon the pun) to minimize his damages.
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Making a mistake is one thing, lying about it repeatedly is another entirely. I'm of the opinion that he only came clean (pardon the pun) to minimize his damages.
He has a long road ahead of him, sincere or not reality is going to clean him up. I've heard mention of at least three major civil lawsuits being prepared against him.
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Finally had the ball to tell the truth.
:cheers: Oz
Not really, seems pretty obvious he is still lying about a lot of stuff
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Finally had the ball to tell the truth.
:cheers: Oz
That's below the belt.
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if i saw him on the street id spit on him. he ruined peoples lives with his power when they came forward to tell the truth about the doping he was part of. all the while he kept asserting that he was not guilty and proclaiming the people telling the truth as liars. i hope they ruin his life like he has ruined others. my 2 cents.
rhino
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Like we didn't all nut it out anyway.
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roadkill witch hunt against lance who played the game just like all the other top riders only to get stabbed in the back by envious former doped teammates angry that he was just that much better then them.
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Using roids and lying goes hand in hand. He did more to promote cycling than anybody ever. He sold a lot of products that he endorsed and was money for his sponsors. What about the rest of the field he raced against? at that level of competition were his competitors clean? I think not. No inductees in Baseballs 'Hall of Fame' this year? Why? Roids? How about Dale Murphy, or Pete Rose. The media is more corrupt than the people it demonizes.
If Lance Armstrong was a better liar, he'd be a politician, well above public scrutiny.
I'm a sheetmetal guy, I been involved in racing my entire life. The Drivers don't do Roids but the Cars do!
"If your not cheating, your not trying" Jim Rome.
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If you cry with Oprah on TV, it'll all turn out ok in the end.
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If you cry with Oprah on TV, it'll all turn out ok in the end.
maybe the NRA should cry on Oprah.
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A lot of athletes do it I'm sure. He just got caught.
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I figured that all along .
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maybe the NRA should cry on Oprah.
If the NRA needed forgiveness by the American people I'd agree with you.
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My opinion is unchanged. Never much cared for him.
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If you cry with Oprah on TV, it'll all turn out ok in the end.
I always though Sadams best ploy would have been to show up on Oprah.
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If this guy just disappeared.......I would give up my left one!...err wait was it right or left....?
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Seems strange that the type of cancer he got has nothing to do with taking testosterone or any other performance enhancing drugs...... :rolleyes:
Maybe this is the reason I've lost interest in many sports.
:salute
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To accuse all those people of lying when he was the guilty party took a lot of ball.
:rofl
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Lance if you are reading this we are just busting your ball..oooooooooo......zing
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Lemond took the greatest hit. He did it right and had to compete against a cheat.
Through all these years Greg was right!
<S> Mr Lemond, You are, and will always be the Man!
What a bad time in History.
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When Liestrong first started to show on pro scene he was w/ Motorola...but never(NEVER) was a real world class cyclist. Would have been great helper/domestic, but world class? No.
He admits starting PED use even before being on Motorola...than he gets cancer. That his cancer was NOT due to his doping is strange statement. Let us remember these drugs are often black-market/Chinese made copies. It is understood during this period 70% of these drugs were made ABOVE their medical need. Excess amounts went where, sports.They used(especially early in EPO era) amounts no Dr would proscribe for healthy person. People died, suddenly, in their sleep. Some, on same development team Lance was on at 19, came up w/immunity deficient problems after they took injections that they were told were 'vitamins'. They sued and received a settlement out of court. A name comes up there, guy named Thom Wiesel, not gonna mention him again but he's all over this whole mess. Some athletes get little advantage from PEDs(Performance Enhancing Drugs), some get none, some, like Lance, do amazing stuff on them.
He claims new 'Blood Passport' is good, working solution. Than says he did not use past 2005. HIS blood passport says different. He says these trying to get around statute of limitations.
He went past being mere bully. He actively totally screwed lives and careers of those who knew/felt he was doping. He spent a lot of money doing it. He robbed anyone who wanted to, or did, compete clean. Alot of other riders/teams just could not afford to pay a Doctor hundreds of thousands to dope effectively. He's worth $125 million or more because of his thieving. He is still lying, covering for those who helped him screw people.
Why would he keep lying? JAIL! He's hoping to influence future juries/public opinion that he's been excessively punished, others weren't crucified like him! His last shield is one he made, his charity...after all, as he's said himself, he's helped so many people.
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Never liked him as a person, but I thought he was no different than the rest. His admission made me lose any respect I had for him. As many said, he lied and cost a lot of people a lot of things.
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Two articles to cmplete my rant: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/will-lance-armstrong-help-clean-up-the-mess-hes-made-stay-tuned_271934 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/will-lance-armstrong-help-clean-up-the-mess-hes-made-stay-tuned_271934)
and: http://greglemond.com/blog/doping-and-those-we-love/ (http://greglemond.com/blog/doping-and-those-we-love/) Velonews article bit long, and I have been of a mind that the company was blatently un-jounalistic in it's coverage of Liestrong, but excellent article. Greg Lemond needs no introduction.
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Who sponsors the big stage race in California? Amgen. What drug do they manufacture, yep you guessed it EPO. :noid
I just wonder why single out Lance and why now? It's not like the rest of the riders are a bunch on angels. PEDs have been in the sport since it's inception.
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If a rider comes clean with out being caught (Dave miller for example) then they will get some forgiveness from me as a cyclist . But if they think that they can run people out of a sport like lance did while giving false statements under oath , vehemently deny evidence showing that they may have been doping then they can expect no forgiveness , no understanding and no respect from me . The whole interview showed him as the self centred arse he is .
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The US justice dept had him and Drs and management under 2 yr investigation which they dropped unexpectedly last Feb on a friday before Super Bowl. No reason given, but w/election coming in Nov it's thought order came from on high so as to not stir big mess up. That's when USADA took over.If you read their report they implicate/suspended(some pending hearings) not just him, but management/Drs of team. Also implicated governing body, the holy of holies, UCI(governing body that runs controls/tests), saying they aided him. It was in there intrest(read $$$$) for hero to win & look clean doing it.
Alot of his prime competitors suddenly had positive tests when they came close to being threats, and were suspended. When a test of his came up 'suspicious'(wth that means?) he got a call from UCI asking him and team manager to meet with head chemist. He denies meeting, chemist says it happened. No one is saying what exactly went on in meeting.
That is what took so long. They've also moved against Doctors involved and team manager. The UCI involvement is very big issue, and USADA is moving in that direction, slowly but steadly. US justice dept has never totally closed case, and just refused his lawyers offer of $5 million. They may go after him and all involved(who knows how many or how high up) for fraud, return of $35 million USPS paid to fuel team TIMES 3, oh yeah...and JAIL.
Oh yeah...Amgan just paid big fine, too.
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The Library in Manly, Australia (LOL, ironic name) will be moving his books to the Fiction Section :rofl :rofl
Good for them!
:cheers: Oz
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Everybody made a lot of money from Lance Armstrong. With that said, everyone should be happy.
Greg Lemond is the person that deserves restitution! He lost sponsorship money that was rightfully his.
Nobody deserves anything except Greg!
LOL...What a mess!
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lol nice one aussies :aok
(http://static.stuff.co.nz/1358752817/042/8205042.jpg)
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Who sponsors the big stage race in California? Amgen. What drug do they manufacture, yep you guessed it EPO. :noid
I just wonder why single out Lance and why now? It's not like the rest of the riders are a bunch on angels. PEDs have been in the sport since it's inception.
That's it folks.
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The thing is, Lance passed the drug tests. Passed the physical requirement tests.
the system failed here and a bunch of nerdy scientists, and jealous riders are letting him have it.
He is a knob of excessive proportions but he has the last laugh here.
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Let us recap, ..
He is known, now,to have failed at least two tests..others may have been swept under rug...and all his blood samples from 99-05 came up positive for EPO. He physically could not have competed w/o doping. He still, w/o dope is not world class. He suspected of doping for the Boston Marathon, crazy.
He financially screwed Lemond with Trek/John Burkes help for +$13 mil, yes. He also screwed, financially, dozens of others,some blue collar workers with no financial reserves, who ALSO, deserve money. The Andreu family, David Walsh/The Sunday Times, Emma O'Reilly, SCA Promotions, Mike Anderson. Some of these individuals could not make a living while on Liestrongs blacklist. And he had powerful people, in the know, who did the dirty work for him.
He can laugh when he goes to jail for fraud.
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7 time Tour de France winner.
Now and forever.
:bhead
Now thats 2 people in the public eye that I am done with! :bhead
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Keith knows all the good drugs...
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26232318/keithrichardslancearmstrong.jpg)
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Keith knows all the good drugs...
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26232318/keithrichardslancearmstrong.jpg)
Keith boosts about them all. He did not hide and ruin peoples lives to protect the lie.
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I could not care less if he took drugs to make loads of money for himself, based on one fact!
They did not take my money, anyone who gives away well earned coin to watch any so called "Sportsman" make hugh amounts of money for themselves is soft in the head. :)
ALL professional "Sportsman's" are all mercenaries who do it for coin and live lives apart from the rest of us :)
Tiger woods with his bleeding heart, saying how sorry he was :rofl
He got caught and should be dealing with his family not Joe Public who are nothing to him :)
Cycling is poo any way :rofl
The only decent sport is Darts because you get a slap if you become a bigshot :)
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I could not care less if he took drugs to make loads of money for himself, based on one fact!
They did not take my money, anyone who gives away well earned coin to watch any so called "Sportsman" make hugh amounts of money for themselves is soft in the head. :)
ALL professional "Sportsman's" are all mercenaries who do it for coin and live lives apart from the rest of us :)
Tiger woods with his bleeding heart, saying how sorry he was :rofl
He got caught and should be dealing with his family not Joe Public who are nothing to him :)
Cycling is poo any way :rofl
The only decent sport is Darts because you get a slap if you become a bigshot :)
:rofl
If I am ever in England, I will look you up and take you the pub. Drinks on me.
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Lance cheated, lied, and deliberately destroyed those who called him on it. He is a coward who has no honor. I have no use for him whatsoever.
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Lance cheated, lied, and deliberately destroyed those who called him on it. He is a coward who has no honor. I have no use for him whatsoever.
Are you 100% sure about that?
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/lancetoilet_zpsc7925c96.jpg)