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Title: Space Is Big
Post by: Bino on January 24, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is."  - Douglas Adams

This video over on the Astronomy Picture Of the Day site shows what it would be like to fly among the galaxies. Not stars. Galaxies.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120813.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120813.html)
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: smoe on January 24, 2013, 01:08:14 PM
The real question about our universe is what is it?
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: VonMessa on January 24, 2013, 01:11:27 PM
"I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

Nice, Bino!!!

Thanks for the link  :aok    :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: rogwar on January 24, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
I always liked this explanation...

http://vimeo.com/24647137
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: ink on January 24, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
even this vid does not show how big space really is.....

the Andromeda Galaxy the closest galaxy to earth, is about 2.5 million light years away from us.....

speed of light is 186,000 miles a second....

so traveling at 186,000 miles a second for 2.5 million years.......

will only get us to the closest neighboring Galaxy........ :O



a little tidbit.....( ya I used to love reading about the universes)

there is a star that is so dense....a square centimeter of its material would weight 300 lbs on earth...... :O
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: DEECONX on January 24, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
Saw this on another site a few days ago. Great video.  :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 24, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
Makes me sad that people fight wars with the knowledge that they are dust particles.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: mbailey on January 24, 2013, 02:17:05 PM
This always blew my mind.....There are more galaxys in the universe, than grains of sand on the Earth.

or

A teaspoon of a Neutron Star would weigh as much as a mountain

http://io9.com/5805244/what-would-a-teaspoonful-of-neutron-star-do-to-you
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: MiloMorai on January 24, 2013, 02:59:11 PM
even this vid does not show how big space really is.....

the Andromeda Galaxy the closest galaxy to earth, is about 2.5 million light years away from us.....

speed of light is 186,000 miles a second....

so traveling at 186,000 miles a second for 2.5 million years.......

will only get us to the closest neighboring Galaxy........ :O

But it is getting closer all the time and will collide with the Milky Way someday in the far future.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: uptown on January 24, 2013, 03:00:58 PM
People have to be mind boggling stupid to look at all that and still think we're the only intelligent life form out there.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: ink on January 24, 2013, 03:08:38 PM
But it is getting closer all the time and will collide with the Milky Way someday in the far future.

we will be walking on the sun when that happens, and be able to travel at the speed of thought. :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Bino on January 24, 2013, 03:20:12 PM
"The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space." - Ellie Arroway
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Curval on January 24, 2013, 03:25:04 PM
Looking forward to watching this when I get home.  Thanks. :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: DEECONX on January 24, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
"The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space." - Ellie Arroway



Get's even bigger when you bring in the theories of Parallel Universe's or Multiverse's.   :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Ripsnort on January 24, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
Makes me sad that people fight wars with the knowledge that they are dust particles.
Rest assured, there are different types bacteria fighting over some unknown location on your body too. That should put things in perspective. :cool:
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 24, 2013, 05:17:06 PM
Rest assured, there are different types bacteria fighting over some unknown location on your body too. That should put things in perspective. :cool:

Right, but those bacteria don't make the decision on whether to kill or not. We can, but we do it anyway. But hey, maybe in some parallel universe, everyone hold hands, sing kumbaya and poop rainbow and roses.  :lol
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Shifty on January 24, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
Makes me sad that people fight wars with the knowledge that they are dust particles.

Go into the LWA and play your war game. That should cheer you up.  :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: guncrasher on January 24, 2013, 07:14:20 PM
the universe maybe so big that I cannot comprehend but at Christmas time there's only 1 star that always cheers me up when I see it since I was a child.


midway
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 24, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
Go into the LWA and play your war game. That should cheer you up.  :aok

I prefer Skyrim.  :D
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: skorpx1 on January 24, 2013, 08:14:14 PM
The universe is far beyond what we really know, and possibly far beyond what we want to know. My senior level astronomy class may have only lasted one semester, but think of this.

We could be remnants of other civilizations. A star supporting life on another planet similar to ours could have super-nova'd and as a result blew everything over there to bits and those carbon atoms and all of that other good stuff just so happened to land on Earth after who knows how long of a trip. There's a million possibilities but we'll probably never know.

Space is big, but humans will never know how big until we can travel faster than the speed of light. Possible? Maybe. We just have to find out how to do it. There's only 200 billion something planets in our galaxy alone, so at least another one of them has to be habitable, right? We cant be the only ones here. Maybe those aliens (If they exist) will figure it out one day.

 :banana: Who else just loves the universe?  :banana:

Oh, and here's a list of pictures off of the NASA website of random space stoofs.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/universe_images_archive_1.html
Pretty darn cool.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: SilverZ06 on January 24, 2013, 09:40:04 PM
People have to be mind boggling stupid to look at all that and still think we're the only intelligent life form out there.

and that there is a god that created it all.. :rofl where was god when he created it?  :rofl simple minded sheeple
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: DEECONX on January 24, 2013, 10:08:50 PM
and that there is a god that created it all.. :rofl where was god when he created it?  :rofl simple minded sheeple


Seriously dude? Let's keep it on topic and try not to offend half the people here. (Including me)
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 24, 2013, 10:18:05 PM
God didn't spend 7 days making the world, he spent 13.7 billion years and waited till ~2000 years ago to announce his work.   :old:
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: RedBull1 on January 24, 2013, 10:18:19 PM

Seriously dude? Let's keep it on topic and try not to offend half the people here. (Including me)
+100
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: BoilerDown on January 24, 2013, 10:21:36 PM
The Andromeda galaxy that is going to collide (or perhaps pass right through) our Milky Way galaxy is the furthest away object visible to the naked eye.  My only regret is that I live now instead of a billion years or so years from now when the Andromeda galaxy will fill the sky at night.  Just like the view from the end of The Empire Strikes Back.  That would be really friggen awesome.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 24, 2013, 10:42:49 PM
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Meatwad on January 24, 2013, 10:44:16 PM
I thought we were all decedents of the people from the planet Golgafrincham that crash landed on earth back in the caveman days
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: ink on January 24, 2013, 11:44:17 PM
The Andromeda galaxy that is going to collide (or perhaps pass right through) our Milky Way galaxy is the furthest away object visible to the naked eye.  My only regret is that I live now instead of a billion years or so years from now when the Andromeda galaxy will fill the sky at night.  Just like the view from the end of The Empire Strikes Back.  That would be really friggen awesome.


ahhh...but if you think about it.....the energy inside you will still be alive...hence so will you.



but yes you are correct that would be phenomenal.... :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: ghi on January 25, 2013, 12:40:05 AM


I was listening a discussion on Coast To Coast radio about this subject; They said, what we see in space with our eyes and instruments is what we call "normall matter", but this is not "normal" in Universe because makes only a small fraction 5% mass, the rest 95% is cocktail of dark energy+ dark matter. 
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
The universe is so mindbogglingly beautiful and fantastic that I wholeheartedly agree with Tim Minchin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Gh0stFT on January 25, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
Space is big, but humans will never know how big until we can travel faster than the speed of light. Possible? Maybe.

MUCH faster then Lightspeed, even with double or tripple lightspeed it would still take forever ;)
and i dont talk about reaching the next galaxy, flying from one end to the other end in our own galaxy
takes aprox 100 000 years with lightspeed. (Einstein's time dilation not included)
Dont even think about to reach the "end" of the universe in the near future :D

R
Gh0stFT
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: mbailey on January 25, 2013, 06:38:55 AM
 

The universe is so mindbogglingly beautiful and fantastic that I wholeheartedly agree with Tim Minchin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Crap....i think i dated Storm

Excellent post  :aok
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: skorpx1 on January 25, 2013, 06:41:31 AM
MUCH faster then Lightspeed, even with double or tripple lightspeed it would still take forever ;)
and i dont talk about reaching the next galaxy, flying from one end to the other end in our own galaxy
takes aprox 100 000 years with lightspeed. (Einstein's time dilation not included)
Dont even think about to reach the "end" of the universe in the near future :D

R
Gh0stFT

It'd take 3000 light years to go from the end of the galaxy we're in now to the other end if we did it by the width. I think we'd have to be going at least 1000x the speed of light to be able to zip around in our own galaxy first.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 07:04:14 AM
It'd take 3000 light years to...

Light years is not a measure of time, and it would take more than a hundred thousand years to cross the Milky Way at the speed of light.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 07:05:05 AM
Crap....i think i dated Storm

You poor soul... Was it worth it?  ;)
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: VonMessa on January 25, 2013, 07:51:43 AM
and that there is a god that created it all.. :rofl where was god when he created it?  :rofl simple minded sheeple


I, however, believe that the Universe was sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure. I live in perpetual fear of the time that I call "The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief"
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: BreakingBad on January 25, 2013, 08:24:42 AM
and that there is a god that created it all.. :rofl where was god when he created it?  :rofl simple minded sheeple

You don't know.  You can't explain the origins of the universe any more than anyone else.  So until you can, your just as simple minded as everyone else.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it, smart boy.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Bino on January 25, 2013, 08:43:06 AM
"An alternative, favored by those of a religious persuasion, was that A'Tuin was crawling from the Birthplace to the Time of Mating, as were all the stars in the sky which were, obviously, also carried by giant turtles. When they arrived they would briefly and passionately mate, for the first and only time, and from that fiery union new turtles would be born to carry a new pattern of worlds. This was known as the Big Bang hypothesis. "  -  Terry Pratchett
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: VonMessa on January 25, 2013, 08:43:20 AM
You don't know.  You can't explain the origins of the universe any more than anyone else.  So until you can, your just as simple minded as everyone else.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it, smart boy.   :rolleyes:

Holy crap!  Are you stalking me, because I just did?!?!

 :noid

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/0125130941_zpsdd362f69.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 08:43:35 AM
Not wanting to fan the flames, but there is a big, big, difference between claiming you know the answer, and claiming you're searching for the answer and have a theory.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: mbailey on January 25, 2013, 01:01:04 PM
You poor soul... Was it worth it?  ;)

Absolutley....i was 18, wasnt her mind i was intrested in  :O


Im reading a really good book at the moment....Lawrence Krauss'   A Universe from Nothing.... Its about how all the mass and matter in the universe could have come a singular point of infinate mass, as described from an astrophysics point of view.....Basically hes discussing the principles behind the Big Bang......Its a pretty good read if your into that kind of stuff.  Available on Kindle for under 10bucks.  
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: VonMessa on January 25, 2013, 01:24:19 PM
Absolutley....it was 18, wasnt her mind i was intrested in  :O


Im reading a really good book at the moment....Lawrence Krauss'   A Universe from Nothing.... Its about how all the mass and matter in the universe could have come a singular point of infinate mass, as described from an astrophysics point of view.....Basically hes discussing the principles behind the Big Bang......Its a pretty good read if your into that kind of stuff.  Available on Kindle for under 10bucks. 


Hey!  That was in the recommended books on my list in my Kindle.  Let me know how it is, I may purchase that.  It look interesting.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 01:32:25 PM
Haha... Good for you mbailey ;)
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: FiLtH on January 25, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
Makes me sad that people fight wars with the knowledge that they are dust particles.

   The thing is in man's reality, all those clusters of galaxies to him are just dust particles.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Buzzard7 on January 25, 2013, 05:18:27 PM
This always blew my mind.....There are more galaxys in the universe, than grains of sand on the Earth.

or

A teaspoon of a Neutron Star would weigh as much as a mountain

http://io9.com/5805244/what-would-a-teaspoonful-of-neutron-star-do-to-you
How about one of those Neutron stars spinning at 714Mhz? When my machine is idle it looks for pulsars through the Einstein@home project. Gotta love it. AN object about 14km across making 714 rotations per second.


A massive star has seconds to live the instant it fuses silicon into iron. Amazing how even one of the smallest objects can wipe out one of the larger ones.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: SilverZ06 on January 25, 2013, 06:24:14 PM
How about one of those Neutron stars spinning at 714Mhz? When my machine is idle it looks for pulsars through the Einstein@home project. Gotta love it. AN object about 14km across making 714 rotations per second.


A massive star has seconds to live the instant it fuses silicon into iron. Amazing how even one of the smallest objects can wipe out one of the larger ones.
714Mhz is 714, 000, 000 rotations per second
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: GScholz on January 25, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
Yeah. The fastest recorded is 1122 Hz, but even that is unconfirmed.
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: titanic3 on January 25, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
714Mhz is 714, 000, 000 rotations per second

 :eek:  :O
Title: Re: Space Is Big
Post by: Buzzard7 on January 25, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
Sorry, it was Hz not Mhz. Still freakin fast for an object that size.
The 1122 Hz one supposedly is not possible due to physics. Maybe it is actually 2 very close together at the end of their death spiral.