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Title: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Tracerfi on January 25, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
Earlier today while a was Fighting in the Battle Of the Bulge Event a found an M8 shoot at medium range my field when i finally shot him I saw the flash that told me a hit him but the M8 kept driving  Can someone explain this to me (and no i do not have the Film i forget to save them)
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: skorpx1 on January 25, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
You probably hit him right square in the .50 cal or in one of the 6 tires he has. You'll rip off one or two if you hit them but it wont kill him. I hit a M3 in the front right tire with a Tiger 1 and he only lost that tire and his engine. Strange sight but not unheard of.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Tracerfi on January 25, 2013, 07:35:50 PM
My problem is it hit him dead in the frount   :headscratch:
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: skorpx1 on January 25, 2013, 07:36:06 PM
Do you have the film?
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: bj229r on January 25, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
The explanation I hear most often is, the round went clean through, without exploding
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Tracerfi on January 26, 2013, 07:14:56 AM
Do you have the film?
no my bad habit is never saving them

The explanation I hear most often is, the round went clean through, without exploding
to add in a AvA the same day an M8 killed my M4 so it may have to do with its new model i guess
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 26, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
The explanation I hear most often is, the round went clean through, without exploding

Which can happen.  If the AP round hits the target in an area that is not critical then it can mean no "critical" damage was done.

Also... FYI for everyone... I STRONGLY suggest to not ever take %100 AP ammo for your tanks, ever. The next time you see that M3, M8, M18, jeep, or other such soft skinned gv's fire an HE round instead of an AP round.  With en HE round you do not need to have a direct hit to damage it or even destroy it.  This is especially true when they are moving to a flank. A near miss with en HE round will disable *something* and render it a non-threat.  I bet since the M18 has hit AH, I bet %75 of the ones I've destroyed have been with HE rounds. Trust me.  Use HE against the lighter skinned gvs', if you miss yet are still close enough at minimum you will damage their engine, bust a track, blow tires, or better yet disable their main gun. If by change you hit the fast mover/soft skinned gv you WILL destroy it without question regardless of where you hit it. The same can not be said for AP rounds.

So again, I highly suggest to NOT take %100 AP ammo.  Take the smallest amount of HE and use them against soft skinned gv's.  For those of you worried about running out of ammo... dont be. It will be very rare that you either run completely out of ammo and/or you cant get someone to bring you gv supplies.   ;) 
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: skorpx1 on January 26, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
to add in a AvA the same day an M8 killed my M4 so it may have to do with its new model i guess
The M8 can kill a Tiger 1. Its not surprising to see it kill an M4.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Softail on January 26, 2013, 10:56:37 AM
The M8 can kill a Tiger 1. Its not surprising to see it kill an M4.


I have never seen an M8 kill a Tiger.  Its just NOT going to happen.  M18 Yes...  M8...no....not Solo.  Rear Tiger armour is as thick as front M4 Armour.  You need film to prove that.   I have been driving the M8 for years and never had a round penetrate from an M8 round at any range.  Including point blank from the 6 o'clock. 

I have had Tiger rounds bounce off the hood of an M3....and in the old days....you used to be able to drive M3s INSIDE a Tiger and shoot the driver.  And you used to be able to kill a Tiger with just the machine gun on an M3.  LOL.  Those were the days....hiding in bombed oil tanks...or Inside of hills.

Softail
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: skorpx1 on January 26, 2013, 11:10:07 AM

I have never seen an M8 kill a Tiger.  Its just NOT going to happen.  M18 Yes...  M8...no....not Solo.  Rear Tiger armour is as thick as front M4 Armour.  You need film to prove that.   I have been driving the M8 for years and never had a round penetrate from an M8 round at any range.  Including point blank from the 6 o'clock. 

I have had Tiger rounds bounce off the hood of an M3....and in the old days....you used to be able to drive M3s INSIDE a Tiger and shoot the driver.  And you used to be able to kill a Tiger with just the machine gun on an M3.  LOL.  Those were the days....hiding in bombed oil tanks...or Inside of hills.

Softail

Clearly you haven't seen me do it.

Here's the film. Did it offline with one of the drones, don't mind the auto ack. That doesn't damage the tank.
http://www.mediafire.com/?y8paumfcup6iz6v
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 26, 2013, 11:12:58 AM

I have never seen an M8 kill a Tiger.  Its just NOT going to happen.  M18 Yes...  M8...no....not Solo.  Rear Tiger armour is as thick as front M4 Armour.  You need film to prove that.   I have been driving the M8 for years and never had a round penetrate from an M8 round at any range.  Including point blank from the 6 o'clock. 

I have had Tiger rounds bounce off the hood of an M3....and in the old days....you used to be able to drive M3s INSIDE a Tiger and shoot the driver.  And you used to be able to kill a Tiger with just the machine gun on an M3.  LOL.  Those were the days....hiding in bombed oil tanks...or Inside of hills.

Softail

The M8 can kill the tiger easy from side or from the back. Takes 5-6 hits to the correct spot.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Lusche on January 26, 2013, 11:16:38 AM

I have never seen an M8 kill a Tiger.  Its just NOT going to happen.  M18 Yes...  M8...no....not Solo.


http://www.mediafire.com/?ebbjk9pmhol72qx
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Softail on January 26, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
Tell ya what....next time I am online....shout out to me....I will up a tiger...you up an M8....You have 10 shots.  Kill me.

As for the video....got it on a site that doesn't require and exe file downloaded to get it?  Cause that link aint workin for me.

AKSofty
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Lusche on January 26, 2013, 11:37:33 AM
Tell ya what....next time I am online....shout out to me....I will up a tiger...you up an M8....You have 10 shots.  Kill me.

As for the video....got it on a site that doesn't require and exe file downloaded to get it?  Cause that link aint workin for me.



 :headscratch: It's just a simple download, no exe file involved at all
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Mano on January 27, 2013, 10:12:06 AM
As was mentioned already in this thread......always carry a small load out of HE rounds.
Jeeps, m-8's, m-3's, storchs, m-18's, and bomb toads all go down with an HE round.  :D :D
You can disable the m-8 by bouncing the HE round near his tires. Works like a charm. Pivot your Tiger to keep your front armor toward the M-8 and he is no threat. Machine gun him before you deliver the 88mm LOL.

Good hunting!

Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 27, 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Tell ya what....next time I am online....shout out to me....I will up a tiger...you up an M8....You have 10 shots.  Kill me.

As for the video....got it on a site that doesn't require and exe file downloaded to get it?  Cause that link aint workin for me.

AKSofty


Not an M8 but the 37mm field gun has the same effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eub28U08nK0
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: RedBull1 on January 27, 2013, 01:40:51 PM
Speaking of M8's, I want to note: I got my first ever kill in AH in an M8 last night :x :rofl

After dieing to this guy 4 times..I kept coming over this mountain, putting 2-3 shots into him, he looks around slowly turns his turret to me as I pump more rounds into him...and just sort of looks at me for a second like...you poor bastard

eventually I came up behind him and 3 in the back of the turret turreted him, then about 10-15 rounds of  HE directly into his tracks finally took one out...then i proceeded to do a few victories laps around him before killing him!
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 27, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
The issue with the clean pass through is that the Tiger fires an APCBC-HE round, and even if the thin side armor wouldn't set the round off, the engine block sure as hell would.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Chalenge on January 27, 2013, 02:29:35 PM


 :headscratch: It's just a simple download, no exe file involved at all
MediaFire tries to force a downloader to install anytime you visit there. I stopped downloading from them long ago because NOD32 pops up the warning everytime.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: skorpx1 on January 27, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
MediaFire tries to force a downloader to install anytime you visit there. I stopped downloading from them long ago because NOD32 pops up the warning everytime.

Maybe that's just an issue with your computer. I never once got any forced download from MediaFire, and never once has it tripped my anti-virus/firewall.
Title: Re: M8 vs Tiger 88mm AP
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
Maybe that's just an issue with your computer. I never once got any forced download from MediaFire, and never once has it tripped my anti-virus/firewall.


I tested my link with three different browsers on two different computers. Not a single time anything tried to make me download any .exe stuff. Just my .ahf file, even on my wife's machine not protected by any things like "AdBlock".