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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: mthrockmor on February 06, 2013, 02:03:26 PM
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I know the Rules and questions of implementation aside, why don't we create a room for politics. If you don't want to engage, go somewhere else. If you do, strap on your big girl panties and deal with it. Everyone gets an opinion, no one has the right to hurt feelings. And we shouldn't worry about the blowhards. Just as in real life in due time everyone will know the serious posts versus drunk Uncle Joe and we'll be fine.
I am guessing the first thought is no but why not? Hijacking threads is bad form, I agree but this wouldn't be hijacking.
Flame on our lock this thread but it should be considered. Thoughts?
PS Call it the Rubber Room...cut right to the chase.
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As much as I dearly love talking politics, I would have to caution against this. I understand and agree with the motivation for wanting to talk about things freely, but I also know human nature. Idiots and trolls would stroll in and become involved ruin the fun for everyone.
That, and I'm sure a few of the people I've come to respect in the game differ from my political POV. I'd prefer to not think less of them because they're stupid. :D
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What happened to flamewarriors.net how civilized is it?
Midway
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What happened to flamewarriors.net how civilized is it?
Midway
I'm pretty sure that place is dead.
As for the wish, i'd love to see it - it'd take out all of the politics/religious stuff from the O'Club/General Discussion, but I don't think Skuzzy will be OK with this wish.
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nothing good will come out of it.... most people don't have the mental fortitude to refrain from attacking one another over disagreements they have little control over.
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considering most peoples sources for news would would they really be discussing something or just regurgitating what they have heard?
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And nobody would ever continue the discussion online... :furious :uhoh :cry :confused: :furious
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I'm pretty sure that place is dead.
As for the wish, i'd love to see it - it'd take out all of the politics/religious stuff from the O'Club/General Discussion, but I don't think Skuzzy will be OK with this wish.
no you dont understand is that there is never a discussion but rather personal attacks. discussions imply that you want to actually exchange ides or information and that has never been the case in any thread that I have seen posted.
nothing good will come out of it other than people quitting for one reason or another. If people really wanted to discuss and or/exchange ideas then flamewarrios.net would still be alive.
heck if somebody still think it is a good idea then somebody should create flamewarrios2.net then if it is an actual decent discussion then bring your idea to this forum as an example otherwise it is a lose-lose situation for everybody.
you want an example of why not look at this thread. notice how it went from discussion to personal attacks.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345191.0.html
and you think we can have a civilized discussion about gun control/lack of :rofl :rofl
midway
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I know the Rules and questions of implementation aside, why don't we create a room for politics. If you don't want to engage, go somewhere else. If you do, strap on your big girl panties and deal with it. Everyone gets an opinion, no one has the right to hurt feelings. And we shouldn't worry about the blowhards. Just as in real life in due time everyone will know the serious posts versus drunk Uncle Joe and we'll be fine.
I am guessing the first thought is no but why not? Hijacking threads is bad form, I agree but this wouldn't be hijacking.
Flame on our lock this thread but it should be considered. Thoughts?
PS Call it the Rubber Room...cut right to the chase.
I'm all for it. But I or we don't have anything to lose by speaking our mind on various hot topics of the day. HTC has to worry about losing customers when someone is offended by remarks on these forums. I'd love to debate and hear opinions about gun control, gay marriage, Korea, Iran, Obama...etc. There's a lot of smart people in here with interesting ideas and perspectives, but the bottom line is....and you know it's true, someone will get pissed off and complain until HTC has to do something about it. Why would they want the hassle of that?
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I'm all for it. But I or we don't have anything to lose by speaking our mind on various hot topics of the day. HTC has to worry about losing customers when someone is offended by remarks on these forums. I'd love to debate and hear opinions about gun control, gay marriage, Korea, Iran, Obama...etc. There's a lot of smart people in here with interesting ideas and perspectives, but the bottom line is....and you know it's true, someone will get pissed off and complain until HTC has to do something about it. Why would they want the hassle of that?
Precisely what Uptown said.
I would +1 the wish, however HTC would get the backlash for it. So I want it, but no. It isn't worth it in the long run.
Respectively,
Tinkles
:salute
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I'm pretty sure that place is dead.
How would you know since you've never visited the site nor joined?
ack-ack
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What happened to flamewarriors.net how civilized is it?
Midway
FW is still around.
ack-ack
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How would you know since you've never visited the site nor joined?
ack-ack
So I take it you have all of my browser history and know exactly which sites iv'e been to in the past 4 months? Or are you going off of assumptions and think that iv'e never been there?
Iv'e just stopped hearing anything about it and I don't go there much. Going off of what iv'e gathered, I figured that place died to all but those who still inhabit it.
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How would you know since you've never visited the site nor joined?
ack-ack
funny thing is I tried to joined but wasnt allowed :).
midway
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So I take it you have all of my browser history and know exactly which sites iv'e been to in the past 4 months? Or are you going off of assumptions and think that iv'e never been there?
Iv'e just stopped hearing anything about it and I don't go there much. Going off of what iv'e gathered, I figured that place died to all but those who still inhabit it.
I know you've never visited or joined. It's a private forum that doesn't allow tween squeakers and you're not a member.
ack-ack
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funny thing is I tried to joined but wasnt allowed :).
midway
nuke probably felt that you couldn't handle the "no crying" rule.
ack-ack
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I know you've never visited or joined. It's a private forum that doesn't allow tween squeakers and you're not a member.
ack-ack
Are you taking a literal stand-point on this or no?
I have in fact been to the website, but I never bothered to register. There is the one area that you're able to get into if you haven't registered and that's where iv'e been. If you're talking about the actual forum itself then no - I haven't been there.
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well there ya go
maybe the link in my sig would be better
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Lessee here.... FW is dead?
Because somebody has checked out the single forum open to unregistered visitors and didn't see many posts?
Or is it dead because FW doesn't have the Three Word Story game?
Reports of FW's death have been greatly exaggerated. It's not for everyone though. It is essentially unmoderated, therefore there are offensive posts/posters. Thin skinned and PC sensitive people probably wouldn't like it there.
There's stuff I don't like but there's an ignore feature and in the words of FWs founder:
You have to be willing to take the good with the bad though. Any moderation really boils down to a person's whimsical judgment call. I'd rather let everyone post freely and let the chips fall where they may. You will never make everyone happy no matter what you do, but I'll take freedom of expression over moderation any day.
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FW is still going strong, roughly 800 members. I lurk here but post there. I understand the rules here and when I am in someone elses' sandbox I obey them... I post there because it's a great steam release valve, and I don't have to worry about offending anyone - we all dish it out, we all take it.
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FW is still very much alive. IMO it's a great metaphor for a true free libertarian society. The rules are so scarce that a good chunk of new members that sign up can't handle the freedom. They'll cry for moderation and call for members to get the ban hammer, but it will never come. So instead they come back here and get their fill of Nannie protection. Meanwhile the core members of FW go on with our life, calling each other names, hurling insults at the britiots, and having a great old time.
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FW is still very much alive. IMO it's a great metaphor for a true free libertarian society. The rules are so scarce that a good chunk of new members that sign up can't handle the freedom. They'll cry for moderation and call for members to get the ban hammer, but it will never come. So instead they come back here and get their fill of Nannie protection. Meanwhile the core members of FW go on with our life, calling each other names, hurling insults at the britiots, and having a great old time.
flamewarriors is a joke, the true reason for flamewarriors was never been to discuss/exchange ideas in an open manner but rather for some to put others down just for the amusement factor. and that is the reason why a political forum wouldnt work here either, there wouldnt be any discussion but rather a place for some people to insult others just because. it is laughable that you want to compare it to a free libertarian society as it is not.
midway
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flamewarriors is a joke, the true reason for flamewarriors was never been to discuss/exchange ideas in an open manner but rather for some to put others down just for the amusement factor. and that is the reason why a political forum wouldnt work here either, there wouldnt be any discussion but rather a place for some people to insult others just because. it is laughable that you want to compare it to a free libertarian society as it is not.
midway
How would you know what the reason for FW is if you've never been a member? I shall dub thee "SkorpX Sr."
ack-ack
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Uhhh, any place where freedom of expression is COMPLETELY devoid of censorship would be the epitome of libertarian values being put in practice, I don't understand how it could be anything but in your mind. I sense that libertarian is not part of your regular vocabulary.
Stopping there, any further and...
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HTC has to worry about losing customers when someone is offended by remarks on these forums.
I would be interested to know how many customers have quit because some other player hurt their feelings compared to how many have quit due to being moderated or banned from the bbs. Skuzzy recently even posted something along the lines of him being sick of being blamed "and receiving another threatening email and losing another customer" over enforcing the rules. I know for a fact that the FW board in question is filled with x-players, most of whom will tell you that they quit the game due to crossing swords with moderators on the bbs, and nothing to do with being disciplined "in game" so to speak for cheating or what-not.
If it's just one of the reasons they left the game, who is to say, but being told off by a fellow customer is a lot different than being disciplined by the people you give the money to in order to play their game. Anyway, like I said, from the tone of that post SKuzzy made recently, I got the feeling that while it may not be a common occurrence, players leaving due to being subject to BBS rules certainly happens often enough for him to make special note of it.
As for the OP's wish, I doubt it'll ever happen. Can you imagine all of the daily bbs suspensions, hundreds of players banned, and all the time Skuzzy spends on moderation all of sudden usurped by a new forum area where none of those rules apply?
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A bulletin board, without any moderation can devolve into complete anarchy. Our board had done that. Once a certain mass has been reached, bulletin board discussions degrade. There are people who have a need to assert themselves via posts that attract attention. These types of people are not the lion share of the public, but given enough numbers on a bulletin board they can have a negative impact on all the discussions. The larger the board gets, the faster it devolves.
In the real world, there are natural inhibitors to bad behavior. A normal person would not walk up to a guy three times his size and make derogatory remarks about him or his date, lest he get punched in the face. Only an idiot, not willing to accept responsibility for his actions, would do so.
Bulletin boards have no natural barriers to prevent bad behavior. Thus it is quite easy for them to devolve into anarchy and chaos. Do some people get upset when they get moderated? Yes. Those who cannot accept responsibility for their own actions always get upset.
Is moderation an exact science? No. Any time anyone has to make a judgement call it will be subjected to the masses for them to judge and re-judge. Everyone has their own perspective, on any given attempt to moderate, and they will gladly tell you how wrong you are when you do moderate a discussion.
Truth of the matter is; If there were natural barriers to bad behavior, a bulletin board would never need to be moderated. Discussions would take place, not 'look-at-the-next-shocking-thing-I-can-say-to-get-attention-and-how-I-can-disrupt-a-discussion' posts.
Our bulletin board, whether we like it or not, is a representative of our business. It is not in our best interests to allow it to devolve into chaos. The unfortunate truth is, controversial topics are a catalyst for bad behavior, on large bulletin boards. We tried everything to keep from going down the path of denying topics from being discussed, and nothing worked.
The only way our board got back to an acceptable level of civility was by restricting the topics which can be discussed. We realize there are people who do not care about the civility of a bulletin board, but we have to as it is part of our business.
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I like the idea of a politics room, I would start taking bets on when and who would get themselves PNGd... Could be a good little earner :D
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I'm pretty sure that place is dead.
As for the wish, i'd love to see it - it'd take out all of the politics/religious stuff from the O'Club/General Discussion, but I don't think Skuzzy will be OK with this wish.
You aren't the brightest bulb in bunch. FW is far from dead and you aren't even a member. So given that fact, how would you even presume to know?
I agree with the OP. If they can start a Kill Club Forum instead of following up on "threats of banning, if done again", make a Room for Politics, etc.
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nuke probably felt that you couldn't handle the "no crying" rule.
ack-ack
He was probably right
:rofl
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What Toad said.
I visit FW daily.
Yes, its a very active board and yes, there is absolutely NO Political Correctness moderated there. You'll find types that are extreme right wing to extreme left wing (Although most of latter get butthurt pretty fast and leave, thus the term 'thin skinned') and everything personality/opinion type in between those extremes.
The ignore function works fine there too, however I prefer my own filter/ignore of just not reading a post by an idiot.
I also agree with Skuzzy regarding degradation and anarchy. Although once the dust settles in an anarchiacal forum environment, it's not as chaotic as one might think. It follows the same principals as a new group of people working together in the real world, that being "Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing" but without barriers to feel that you cannot say what you think like you would in business. ;)
It's refreshing to be able to post without fear of moderation, and its a good place to keep in touch with friends from Air Warrior, Warbirds, and Aces High when most have left the game and moved on.
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flamewarriors is a joke, the true reason for flamewarriors was never been to discuss/exchange ideas in an open manner but rather for some to put others down just for the amusement factor. and that is the reason why a political forum wouldnt work here either, there wouldnt be any discussion but rather a place for some people to insult others just because. it is laughable that you want to compare it to a free libertarian society as it is not.
midway
Yea you wouldn't last more than a couple of weeks. I can see you need protection from the bad man.
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Yea you wouldn't last more than a couple of weeks. I can see you need protection from the bad man.
You actually give him that long or are you being gratuitous?
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A week?
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Yea you wouldn't last more than a couple of weeks. I can see you need protection from the bad man.
I actually didn't want to join to participate in any discussion but because that is where the wot players thread was. P
And btw I did join with a different id still a member I guess as I haven't been there in years.
Midway
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A week?
Only if he didn't visit every day during that week.
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I actually didn't want to join to participate in any discussion but because that is where the wot players thread was. P
And btw I did join with a different id still a member I guess as I haven't been there in years.
Midway
The WoT's thread was dead because WoT's rapidly got too ridiculous a game to play, in the eyes of many over at FW. If THAT was the sole reason you were there, then I can see why you thought it was dead. Go into general discussion, though, and sometimes there are way too many topics to follow at one time.
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The WoT's thread was dead because WoT's rapidly got too ridiculous a game to play, in the eyes of many over at FW. If THAT was the sole reason you were there, then I can see why you thought it was dead. Go into general discussion, though, and sometimes there are way too many topics to follow at one time.
I never got to see it as I wasnt let in and that was at the begining of wot when everybody was playing.
Midway
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I got my own hate thread at FW's :rock :rock :rock
i'm I wrong AKAK.... :rofl :rofl
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I never got to see it as I wasnt let in and that was at the begining of wot when everybody was playing.
Midway
Then how do you know flamewarriors is a "joke" as you call it? Come on over! I predict great things for you :rofl
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Then how do you know flamewarriors is a "joke" as you call it? Come on over! I predict great things for you :rofl
You just proved it.
Midway
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See Rule #4
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I belong to both forums. I tend to ignore most of what goes on in each. In their own ways each forum, here and fw, can be tedious and each has it's good points. The big draw for me is to keep in contact with some folks I have known through the game world since about 94 in AW. It's been fun to travel to areas and meet some of the folks. I've gone more than 800 miles out of my way to do so, especially last year. Then again there are folks I wouldn't cross the driveway to see, both here and there.
I do have to say that on average I spend more time and visits at fw than here and it has nothing to do with Skuzzy's moderation of this forum. Skuzzy's efforts have been for the most part pretty much in line to what I would have done as well. Frankly I think he errs on the side of being pretty light handed most of the time. I would have dropped the ban hammer far more frequently myself.
To me it's more of a quality of posting issue that brings me there more than here. I hate to say it, in spite of the rather crude and excessively juvenile postings of some there, I find the quality of the discussion to be a bit more adult in nature.
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I actually didn't want to join to participate in any discussion but because that is where the wot players thread was. P
And btw I did join with a different id still a member I guess as I haven't been there in years.
Midway
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Quote from: guncrasher on Today at 01:03:38 PM
I never got to see it as I wasnt let in and that was at the begining of wot when everybody was playing.
Midway
See any conflict there?
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I think Skuzzy is correct concerning a business related BBS needing moderation. I think he has a tough job here and does it about as well as it can be done.
I don't necessarily agree about unmoderated = anarchy though. FW is approaching its 5 year point and it runs along without any hitches. Of course, one's definition of anarchy may differ from someone else's.
I think Rip and Mav are both pretty much spot on.
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considering most peoples sources for news would would they really be discussing something or just regurgitating what they have heard?
...or willing to stop taking it from the spoon in the first place.
I think politics should be kept out of AH, no cleaner line of OK/Not-OK on the subject can be drawn.
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Also, about FW, I've tried to join in the past, usualy a few weeks later when I get a responce I've lost interest.
Those that are members there... well it's probabley a wide vareity, but one thing they seem to have more are the very strong willed but weak minded individuals.
And most recently to my understanding, and of no surprise, plenty of members with righteousness but without any justification.
Is it fun over there?
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Also, about FW, I've tried to join in the past, usualy a few weeks later when I get a responce I've lost interest.
Those that are members there... well it's probabley a wide vareity, but one thing they seem to have more are the very strong willed but weak minded individuals.
And most recently to my understanding, and of no surprise, plenty of members with righteousness but without any justification.
Is it fun over there?
weak minded? ? lmao
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Also, about FW, I've tried to join in the past, usualy a few weeks later when I get a responce I've lost interest.
Those that are members there... well it's probabley a wide vareity, but one thing they seem to have more are the very strong willed but weak minded individuals.
And most recently to my understanding, and of no surprise, plenty of members with righteousness but without any justification.
Is it fun over there?
I do not think you would like it
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I've never experienced it myself but I have heard rumors and formed a totally correct opinion from those.
Ooooooooooo K!
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weak minded? ? lmao
Could be he's referring to Jeros. :D
ack-ack
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Aces High dosen't need a political theater forum. It would eventualy get everyone banned for screaming "ist and ism" or speaking logic to emotions in response. Give Skuzzy a break for once. Insanity visa repeating same actions is overrated and boring. Skuzzy probably has better things to do than smell dirty laundry all day long.
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See any conflict there?
yes the first time I got in was a few years back as I was curious when somebody would post a link to a thread that couldnt be discussed here that was soon after I created the guncrasher accoun on the ah bb. my account on flamewrrios wasnt guncrahser as I was using a different id. I dont even remember the id or password as it was one of my first id's created when I started playing aces high. when I tried to get in using semp as I was a member of the wot clan when it started about a year and 1/2 ago I was declined.
so what is the conflict? I have had several paying accounts in aces high over the same number of years but only a single bb account which is this one. I started playing about a year or year and 1/2 before I created this account on this bb.
midway
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There are things posted over on FW, and several particular members, who utterly disgust me. It is a completely unmoderated place where any speech is allowed, which I like, in spite of some of the things that get posted That is the price, so to speak, that you pay for completely free speech. I also think it is a good idea HTC does not allow that here, its not in their business interest, which most people forget, is the only reason THIS board exists. It is to support their business, not provide a libertarian utopia where anything is allowed. As HT says, its his house, you want to play you play by his rules.
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Makes perfect sense Skuzzy.
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So you haven't been there in 4+ years and you know all about how it is now? Gotcha.
Grits, spot on.
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I know the Rules and questions of implementation aside, why don't we create a room for politics. If you don't want to engage, go somewhere else. If you do, strap on your big girl panties and deal with it. Everyone gets an opinion, no one has the right to hurt feelings. And we shouldn't worry about the blowhards. Just as in real life in due time everyone will know the serious posts versus drunk Uncle Joe and we'll be fine.
I am guessing the first thought is no but why not? Hijacking threads is bad form, I agree but this wouldn't be hijacking.
Flame on our lock this thread but it should be considered. Thoughts?
PS Call it the Rubber Room...cut right to the chase.
Why I ask, what does politics have to do with AH. If you want to talk politics go to the Fox, Cnn,MSN new web site, there you can get enough gov bs talk all you want. I kind wish the only forums on this site would be bug and squad froms, most everything on here is worse than politics could ever be
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weak minded? ? lmao
Without going into the names - I got some nasty PMs recently on this board about one of my supposed squad member's conduct, supposedly originating from your land of higher-intelligence (FW). I went digging through our records in the past to be sure, and current stats (a couple clicks and a name query on the website, or a quick login to teh game and a roster refresh) show this individual was never and isn't one of our squad's members.
Relived it's not my responcibility, but geebus frapin krikee if I didn't have enough material for a bonfire in my inbox from a couple of individuals that weekend.
"lmao"
Is it fun over there?
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Yup, good people too for the most part. Who gave you the responSibility to judge people as weak-minded when you haven't even been a part of the discussion, you should be r-e-l-i-e-v-e-d of that responsibility. Apparently the judgement came from a very low-information vantage point.
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Yup, good people too for the most part. Who gave you the responSibility to judge people as weak-minded when you haven't even been a part of the discussion, you should be r-e-l-i-e-v-e-d of that responsibility. Apparently the judgement came from a very low-information vantage point.
Ironic. :D
Agreed, I shouldn't waste my time judging those (after they've already wrongly and unfoundedly made such a huge and unfounded stink privately judging others that I've been dragged into it) when it doesn't even have anything to do with me or my squad members, and nor is it my responsibility.
PS - If you really want to waste the time on it, "yup" isn't a word, but "uninformed" is. Now we've both improved our grammar today. :aok
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I thought AH already IS a huge rubber room... :headscratch:
I for one did not join AH - I was institutionalized here! :old:
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PS - If you really want to waste the time on it, "yup" isn't a word, but "uninformed" is. Now we've both improved our grammar today. :aok
Down here, it is.
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Down here, it is.
Yup
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Without going into the names - I got some nasty PMs recently on this board about one of my supposed squad member's conduct, supposedly originating from your land of higher-intelligence (FW). I went digging through our records in the past to be sure, and current stats (a couple clicks and a name query on the website, or a quick login to teh game and a roster refresh) show this individual was never and isn't one of our squad's members.
Relived it's not my responcibility, but geebus frapin krikee if I didn't have enough material for a bonfire in my inbox from a couple of individuals that weekend.
"lmao"
Is it fun over there?
well....800+ people CAN be wrong! (hmm.....if somebody from over THERE sent you a pm over HERE, then it came from AH?. Not sure how you can extrapolate a general indictment from that?)
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This thread makes the case why a Rubber Room would work just fine. Yes, a bit off kilter here and there though it self-moderates to a very large degree. It has run off on a couple tangents, back to a central point and off we go.
I can see the issue of adding work load to Skuzzy, requiring him to monitor a Rubber Room. Maybe Skuzzy appoints half a dozen of the more noble, calm though not necessarily wiser lot to act as hall monitors, to provide guidance and the occasional cattle prod to the food fight that may ensue. The most egregious violations could be brought to Skuzzy's attention, then they could be brought forward to all for a good old public shaming. Yes, at some level a line would be crossed but I am confident this crew of misfits could find a great balance.
I say let's give it a try and the first one who pees their pants gets kill-shot in-game.
+1 (on a test run of the Rubber Room with half a dozen hall monitors/teachers pets.)
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well....200+all their shades people CAN be wrong! (hmm.....if somebody from over THERE sent you a pm over HERE, then it came from AH?. Not sure how you can extrapolate a general indictment from that?)
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+1 (on a test run of the Rubber Room with half a dozen hall monitors/teachers pets.)
We had that stuff before. Old "Oclub" with mods, and politics allowed. Was discontinued in autumn 2008 ;)
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Maybe Skuzzy appoints half a dozen of the more noble, calm though not necessarily wiser lot to act as hall monitors,
The cries of favoritism will be so loud you can hear them at a Motorhead concert.
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FW and planet earth chronicle are more than enough for anyone wishing to talk politics,, I am glad we don't do it here,,, I often wonder why we even have an Oclub?
But if you want something else,,, open your own!! Then you can moderate it like you want
I was a member of FW for a long time,
I enjoyed it ,the freedom to say whatever,I only quit because I got tired of politics and needed my time to work on more productive ideas
That said,,, politics,, their or here will result in one side expressing their ideas, while the other degrades and insults the previous ,,, doesn't really matter what side your on!
Now how does that help Aces High?
What would HTC gain by re-introducing that equation to the mix?
Will it fill the coffers?
Will it improve game play?
I can't think of anything that HTC would gain except a large headache it didn't need,,, besides,, if we did that here,, what would be left to do over at FW?
Just my two cents
Jeff
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Hey Whiskey! good to see ya man!
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Hey Whiskey! good to see ya man!
:salute.
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FW is still going strong, roughly 800 members. I lurk here but post there. I understand the rules here and when I am in someone elses' sandbox I obey them... I post there because it's a great steam release valve, and I don't have to worry about offending anyone - we all dish it out, we all take it.
wow, that is so untruthful.
midway
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Join the fray and see for yourself. I don't lie.
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I would have to say, if you all want to talk politics and stuff, which hey like uptown said there are a lot of smart guys here with different backgrounds, ideas, etc and would be interesting to hear, why not make a facebook account(takes about 10 mins and gets you up to speed with everything lol)and everyone can talk politics, gun control, or whatever and skuzzy doesnt have to ban anyone or have wars in the BBS. just my thoughts :salute
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wow, that is so untruthful.
midway
Since you've never accessed the general forums at FW or partake in any of the discussions, you really can't make any comments stating otherwise.
ack-ack
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I would have to say, if you all want to talk politics and stuff, which hey like uptown said there are a lot of smart guys here with different backgrounds, ideas, etc and would be interesting to hear, why not make a facebook account(takes about 10 mins and gets you up to speed with everything lol)and everyone can talk politics, gun control, or whatever and skuzzy doesnt have to ban anyone or have wars in the BBS. just my thoughts :salute
Lol, THAT's a good way to lose exactly half your current friends :huh
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Since you've never accessed the general forums at FW or partake in any of the discussions, you really can't make any comments stating otherwise.
ack-ack
well since you guys posted so many times that most people wont last a week then his statement is untruthful.
midway
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This has degraded into a comparison about our board and another board, which is not really fair to the other board as many of the other board cannot post here anymore.
For the reasons, stated previously, the policy to restrict political discussion will stay in place. Just gauging the reaction to other less volatile topics, the board continues to prove it cannot have a civil discussion of said topics. In light of that, it makes no sense to allow the discussion of topics, which are more volatile.