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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Randy1 on February 07, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
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It started a couple of days ago. In last two days I have augered several planes in or just sit there watching while i get drilled since I can't control the plane.
Can the " Don't Move your controls so rapidly" function be turned off?
It only happens when I am trying to pitch the planes around in a tight fight.
I found the FAQ that said calibrate in windows first then AH but that did not work.
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If you're not rapidly moving the stick when you get that message then you probably have a spiking pot in your joystick. If you don't mind opening things up to see how they work, grab a screw driver and open that puppy up. Make sure all the connections are tight. Radio Shack used to carry tuner cleaner, which will help if you have dirty pots. They may still have it. If cleaning doesn't work, the pot needs to be replaced.
If you're not mechanically inclined, buy a new joystick.
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You can add damping until moving the stick quickly stops generating the message but you'll end up with mushy controls. It's best just to move your stick slower.
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First, thanks for the reply. Ya, I can get i apart and i think I still have some spray.
It is happening when I am moving the stick rapidly in the heat of the battle trying to keep the P38 on the very edge in tight fight.
I will go to off line and try a different stick to see if i can pin the problem down.
I sure do wish their was a Tic to turn off that feature or just the message and not lock up the joystick.
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You can add damping until moving the stick quickly stops generating the message but you'll end up with mushy controls. It's best just to move your stick slower.
FLS we were posting at the same time. I tried upping the damping a touch but I will try it again.
I will try a different usb port as well.
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First, thanks for the reply. Ya, I can get i apart and i think I still have some spray.
It is happening when I am moving the stick rapidly in the heat of the battle trying to keep the P38 on the very edge in tight fight.
I will go to off line and try a different stick to see if i can pin the problem down.
I sure do wish their was a Tic to turn off that feature or just the message and not lock up the joystick.
I can't imagine what manouvers you are making that requires you to make a large number of rapid inputs to "keep the 38 on the very edge". Other than the manouver that I think you're making :uhoh
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This message means the inputs from the stick are coming in faster than the plane could have ever reacted to said inputs.
If you are moving the stick rapidly, you can either learn to slow it down a bit, or you can add damping to the axis of the stick which inhibits the speed of the inputs at the game level. I recommend learning to slow the inputs yourself, as using damping to cover the issue will prevent you from learning how to fly a plane near the edge of its flight envelope.
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I appreciate all the replies. Must be me. I tried a different joystick, different ports, and re-calibrated. The results are the same.
It takes 3 inputs(left,right left on the stick) within a second is best I can guess or 4 inputs in a little over a second. They don't have to be full throws to make it happen.
Mr. Skuzzy, I wonder if you could tie this function to the auto takeoff?
Could be too, I had Redbull, Latrobe and few other really good sticks burning my butt yesterday. :O :joystick:
It was great fun.
Back to practice to see if I can slow my control movement down.
Thanks for the help.
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Try to enable scaling on the x and y axis. I still have the same problem when trying to counter the stall in the spitfires
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Try to enable scaling on the x and y axis. I still have the same problem when trying to counter the stall in the spitfires
Noir, I do have the scaling activated, which is very close to article Ack-Ack published. You do have a good point. I could soften up the roll a little bit. I will give that a try.
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Noir, I softened the scaling curve just a bit on the ailerons. I only had a short test online but it seems to have really helped. Thanks for the suggestion.
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It started a couple of days ago. In last two days I have augered several planes in or just sit there watching while i get drilled since I can't control the plane.
Can the " Don't Move your controls so rapidly" function be turned off?
It only happens when I am trying to pitch the planes around in a tight fight.
I found the FAQ that said calibrate in windows first then AH but that did not work.
A film would be definitive if it is a technical (calibration or scaling) or technique (stick stirring wildly) issue.
Be warned - this game/community does not look highly upon stick stirrers, brace for the salt.
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I would not be so quick to apply the 'stick stirrer' tag. It is quite natural for someone to get a bit over zealous in the heat of a battle, until they really get the feel for the connection between the stick and the plane.
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May I ask, what does your setup consist of, mainly rudder pedals or twisty stick?
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May I ask, what does your setup consist of, mainly rudder pedals or twisty stick?
A few months back I changed from a twisty stick to pedals.
The problem has not come back so far.
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Just to add more inputs to this:
It happened to me a few months ago. But It happened even flying straight ahead and without putting any inouts into my stick. It turn out to be that one of the popentiometers of the joystick was failing. So I had to buy a new one.
Just in case if It happens to anyone in the future.....
:salute
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Kovel, that is a good test. I can add another. One that unveiled my problem and does not bode well for my joystick.
The "Don't Move your controls so rapidly" hit again last night while flying a P38. After the Host let me have control again, I noticed the P38's yoke's steering wheel had a nervous giggle as I made a slow aileron turn. The plane turned smooth but the wheel did not. Even with a very slow joystick input, the graphic depicted steering wheel showed a nervous giggle as it turned slowly left or right. A giggle that was too small to show up in the planes flight but must be enough to set off the dreaded "Don't Move your controls so rapidly" when added in with my own spirited joystick input.
I retested after I swapped joysticks using an old MS joystick and the P38's steering wheel turned smooth and steady.
I think I will shop for a Hall effect joystick.
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It started a couple of days ago. In last two days I have augered several planes in or just sit there watching while i get drilled since I can't control the plane.
Can the " Don't Move your controls so rapidly" function be turned off?
No, it is much like the dreaded "black out", "red out" or spins. It is a function of the game to put the same "approximate" restrictions flying a real plane would have.
It only happens when I am trying to pitch the planes around in a tight fight.
Then don't pitch the plane around so hard! :devil IF all your hardware is good than moving the stick quick enough to bring up the "don't move..." error than you ARE moving it to quickly and need to learn to ease off a bit.
I found the FAQ that said calibrate in windows first then AH but that did not work.
This is where you check your hard ware. Going into the "map controllers" section and watching the numbers that display input of your controllers can tell you how clean/accurate your stick is reporting. You should be able to move the stick a bit in one direction and hold it there with out the numbers fluctuating much. If the numbers are jumping around (as in your "giggle" report) then your stick isn't reporting clearly. Sometimes taking the stick apart and spraying the pots with a cleaner clears up the problem.
Sticks are very much in the "you get what you pay for" category. A cheap stick won't last long especially if your heavy on it and fly a lot. My CH stick is years old and still steady as a rock.
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I trashed my ch (actually its in the closet along with the x65f) because it was not precise enough...hall effect is the way to go nowadays!