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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: tuton25 on February 11, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
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How bout it???
The TBM can carrie the same load as a boston III with better defenses but slower
Well that kate would be a little better to.....
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Prolly because of the grief trying to launch and land formations off cv's
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it would make it easier to survive in the tbm plus people would use it more for cv based missions
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I see the logic behind the TBM with level bombing and torpedo capability, but how would you suggest modeling dive bomber formations for particularly the diveing and dropping part?
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Neither the Kate, nor the TBM are dive bombers.
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Neither the Kate, nor the TBM are dive bombers.
Dive/glide. I don't recal the Kate having a bombsight is my point, and I'll bet a lunch that 9 out of 10 times a Kate hit a target with a bomb that they have to nose down.
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The Kate does and I've used it to bomb SBs and VHs. I never bomb nose down in a Kate, but then I am a dick. Obviously.
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it would make it easier to survive in the tbm plus people would use it more for cv based missions
The TBM can only survive by maneuvering. The gunners are just too limited and do not have enough firepower to make a difference. Attacking a formation of TBMs means 3 easy kills or two free kills and one maneuvering target. An unloaded TBM can surprise quite a few fighters with its 2*0.5 forward guns.
Having said that, there is no real reason that the TBM should not get the formation option, except for the technical difficulty of making formation T/O & land on CVs. If there is no easy solution to that issue, then it is not worth the effort to implement for just two very lightly used planes.
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The Kate does and I've used it to bomb SBs and VHs. I never bomb nose down in a Kate, but then I am a dick. Obviously.
Ah, then it's the Val that must not have it. Interesting, I'll have to try it out next time I'm in the mood for being a masochist (seriously, I didn't know it had the sight, now im intrigued).
The TBM can only survive by maneuvering. The gunners are just too limited and do not have enough firepower to make a difference. Attacking a formation of TBMs means 3 easy kills or two free kills and one maneuvering target. An unloaded TBM can surprise quite a few fighters with its 2*0.5 forward guns.
Having said that, there is no real reason that the TBM should not get the formation option, except for the technical difficulty of making formation T/O & land on CVs. If there is no easy solution to that issue, then it is not worth the effort to implement for just two very lightly used planes.
The combined defensive firepower of three TBMs is greater than that of a number of other bombers currently with formation capability.... :headscratch:
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The combined defensive firepower of three TBMs is greater than that of a number of other bombers currently with formation capability.... :headscratch:
B-25C...Boston III... :noid
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The combined defensive firepower of three TBMs is greater than that of a number of other bombers currently with formation capability.... :headscratch:
The guns are still useless. Last time I flew Bostons I quickly realized how useless the turrets are. After Sandman in a 262 and another K4 killed 2 of my formation I was finally released to maneuver. The 262 was sure I was about to die and left, and I proceeded to shoot the K4 down using the two forward fixed .303s. Did not count as a kill because the K4 crashed between the trees and we were close enough to his base for it to count as a ditch. The last Boston safely slipped away and returned to base.
TBMs are fun to dogfight when unloaded. They also have a cute trick they can do with rockets that no other plane can.
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Ah, then it's the Val that must not have it. Interesting, I'll have to try it out next time I'm in the mood for being a masochist (seriously, I didn't know it had the sight, now im intrigued).
It has one of them SAP bomb thingies.
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The B5N2 can carry an 800kg AP bomb. A formation of those, bombing accurately, would take out a hangar.
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TBMs are fun to dogfight when unloaded. They also have a cute trick they can do with rockets that no other plane can.
. And what trick might that be?
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This thread wasn't good enough for you?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345539.0.html
Just wondering why we need two of these.
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. And what trick might that be?
Shooting down Lancs:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH2%20screenshots/tbm-3.png)
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH2%20screenshots/tbm-5.png)
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. And what trick might that be?
Firing rockets from F3?
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We could at least have formations available when taking off from land bases.
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It has one of them SAP bomb thingies.
I've also in all honestly never used a SAP in AH yet. Plenty of GP, HC and AP though. Any thoughts or tips on using them?
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I'm usually the only person wobbling about in a Kate attacking a base, so until I practice offline I can't vouch for the efficacy of the 800kg SAP round, except to say that in a hot zone, a couple of flights are usually all that's necessary to drop a SB, however you need to hit the target to get maximum effect. I know that sounds oxymoronic, but a dead-on hit generates more damage points than one would expect, where a very close splash delivers less than expected.
I suspect I only need a couple of flights due to other people damaging the SB before, during and after my flights.
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Firing rockets from F3?
Not what I had in mind, but you are getting warmer.
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Hmmmmm
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This thread wasn't good enough for you?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345539.0.html
Just wondering why we need two of these.
You do know this thread was started first?
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I think the formations would be workable, now that the drones don't form up until you'd be well off the deck and fall into line as soon as you drop your gear on the landing approach. I know one of the reasons in the olden days that we didn't have CV formations was that the drones weren't so well behaved once upon a time.
Imagine the joy of a SB gunner popping a formation.