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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: tunnelrat on February 13, 2013, 10:27:30 AM
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AWESOME looking!!!!
Question... is that 4x .303s I see in the tail?
Deer will think twice before chasing MY lanc!
http://www.hitechcreations.com/News/Announcements/New-Lancaster-Screenshots.html
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Question... is that 4x .303s I see in the tail?
Apparently :)
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She looks great....
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YES!!!! the quad .30 cal MG's in the tail with boat loads of ammo will be BETTER than the lightly fed dual .50 MG's we have now. I've wanted this version ever since I've started playing AH in Jan of '08. Woo Hoo!!! :)
This is great news! I hope to see a few more updates or another plane or two before the next version. :pray :D
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109E and C.2
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:rock
New stuff is cool.
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Nice looking work HTC! :aok
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I bet it's going to look even better when it's on fire. :t
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I bet it's going to look even better when it's on fire. :t
Maybe it wont catch on fire? ;)
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The modeling of aircraft gets better and better each time; the Lancaster looks beautiful.
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Really awesome !!!! :aok
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:aok
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YES!!!! the quad .30 cal MG's in the tail with boat loads of ammo will be BETTER than the lightly fed dual .50 MG's we have now. I've wanted this version ever since I've started playing AH in Jan of '08. Woo Hoo!!! :)
This is great news! I hope to see a few more updates or another plane or two before the next version. :pray :D
You do realize they went to the 50 Cals for a reason right? Be careful what you wish for :)
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Very nice. As one of the most used aircraft this update is long due.
Nice to see the quad .303s in the tail. As I recall it had 2000 rounds per gun for that configuration.
I do hope the dual .50s are still an option for those who prefer it.
109E and C.2
C.20x, yes, absolutely. Bf109E, no. It is already at 2.0 standard and while the older 2.0 models are looking long in the teeth, they are all still far better looking than the remaining 1.0 models. I will accept the Bf109E fans word thay the 3D model is poor. The Spitfire Mk I, Mk V and Seafire all have the wrong shaped nose as well.
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Looks great!
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/Danny_Winters/rocker_zps6d96c0f4.gif)
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/Danny_Winters/Bluberrysig_zps49aade92.gif)
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/Danny_Winters/biggersig_zps0d43514d.png)
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In the second shot it looks like the tail gun might have only on barrel. That could indicate that the player can choose dual .50s or quad .303s. If both are an option I doubt the .50s will be available in the EWA and perhaps not the MWA. I am not sure when the .50 turrets first showed up on Lancasters.
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Apparently :)
Four 303s is correct.
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You do realize they went to the 50 Cals for a reason right? Be careful what you wish for :)
The dual .50's came about late in the game, ultimately LW. The Lancaster was available early in 1942 and ultimately stayed the same with exception to the guns and minor engine tweaks. I'm under the impression that only a minority of Lancasters were fitted with the dual .50's in the tail. I just read in one of my books that the Lanc Mk III was ordered with the quad .30's, then part of the way through production the dual .50's were installed, but the decision was made to go back to the quad .30's due to logistics: there were already more than enough quad 30's turrets and mounts made and the dual .50 turrets and mounts had to catch up in production.... at least that is my interpretation of the information in a nutshell. Plus, I'd have to think that as the war went on there were less and less German fighters to contend with.
Less than 200 of the 7300 built had the dual .50's in the rear turret??? My source ("The Encyclopedia of WWII Aircraft", Editor: Paul Eden), is a bit vague on those numbers too.
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In the second shot it looks like the tail gun might have only on barrel. That could indicate that the player can choose dual .50s or quad .303s. If both are an option I doubt the .50s will be available in the EWA and perhaps not the MWA. I am not sure when the .50 turrets first showed up on Lancasters.
If you search for photos of the turrets on the Lancaster, you'll see the quad .30's are set with the two top guns wider than the bottom 2 guns. In the picture that shows the rear turret well enough, you can see the left guns on the turret plain as day and the right two are blended together because of the position of the camera.
EDIT: As much as it pains to say it, head to wiki and there are some good photos of the rear turret. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster
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Awesome! :aok
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With good gunnery skills, the 4 .303's will translate to 32mm roughly in 4 8 mm size bullets. They will be lethal with proper handling.
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With good gunnery skills, the 4 .303's will translate to 32mm roughly in 4 8 mm size bullets. They will be lethal with proper handling.
I think what they translate to, in AH terms, is a much higher rate of pilot wounds on goobers crawling up your 6 all slow like.
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If you search for photos of the turrets on the Lancaster, you'll see the quad .30's are set with the two top guns wider than the bottom 2 guns. In the picture that shows the rear turret well enough, you can see the left guns on the turret plain as day and the right two are blended together because of the position of the camera.
EDIT: As much as it pains to say it, head to wiki and there are some good photos of the rear turret. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster
Yes, I saw that, but I don't think the camera is high enough in the second shot to cause the two barrels t merge visually. I also don't think that the barrel positions are divergent enough to let one project that far without the other also being visible.
We shall see, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both options. HTC has shown a willingness to do rare gun packages such as the three cannon La-7 and the NS-37 armed Il-2.
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that looks great. :airplane:
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Awesome HTC, nice work :aok :aok :salute
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Looks damn good. Now let's update a fighter that I can kill those new Lanks with.
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Looks really beautiful, fantastic work, can't wait to shoot them down in droves when it releases. I was wondering why so many were in the skies of the LWA this morning. :devil
The 303s will be I think more lethal in concentration, but will be less effective and lethal against slashing attacks that rarely offer a solid shot to the defender. I think by far the bigger impact with this update to its survivability will be the updated damage model.
:cheers:
Looks damn good. Now let's update a fighter that I can kill those new Lanks with.
Seconded, I vote 190A8 :noid :bolt:
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Outstanding can't wait :airplane: :aok
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Yes, I saw that, but I don't think the camera is high enough in the second shot to cause the two barrels t merge visually. I also don't think that the barrel positions are divergent enough to let one project that far without the other also being visible.
We shall see, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both options. HTC has shown a willingness to do rare gun packages such as the three cannon La-7 and the NS-37 armed Il-2.
Very true. That is exactly what I've been vouching for as well. Having both options for scenarios and the MA's would be nice. I wish HTC would have the option of the B24 D or J (no front turret vs front turret).
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8000 BeeBees! :x
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Seconded, I vote 190A8 :noid :bolt:
The Fw190A-8, along with every other Fw190, is already updated.
Now, the more traditional Lancaster killer, the Bf110G-2, does need an update.
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I must be Jesus.
Hitech never follows their user schedule unless a vote is passed.
And yet my two wishes last year for updates.
Were the Hurricane. And the Lancaster.......
THANK YOU HITECH... :D
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Emil, C2, 110G w/upward firing 20s and 110c.
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Emil, C2, 110G w/upward firing 20s and 110c.
Why do you people keep listing the Bf109E-4 when it has already been done. Do you actualy like looking unobservant and unreasonable?
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Karnak, whilst the 190A8 has been updated, it is still a smurfy example compared to the real shape of the real plane. It's merely a round tube of a fuselage in-game, but was anything but round in real life. It had nearly flat, sloping, sides, and a flat belly. The joint where the fuslage turned into the stabs was almost square in cross section. It makes creating skins which closely map onto certain shapes of the fuselage and sides nearly impossible sometimes. All 190s suffer in the fuselage shape, a serious deficiency.
The 109E is not so grossly inaccurate in shape, but overall I think it could use some updates. The rest of the 109s look better than the E. The spits, also one of the first new models to be updated, need a massive redo to fix the horrid noses on all of them. They all look like they've got gryphon engines, but should have merlins.
I agree old 3D models first, but I would advocate some of the already-remodeled ones need a second attempt.
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I agree that some of the 2.0 moxels are in need, particularly the B-24J and the Ki-84-Ia, but the guys on this "Lets pretend the Bf109E-4 is as much need of an update as the C.20X, B-26, Ki-61-I-Tei, Bf110s and Yaks." are being absurd.
(The nose shapes on the two speed two stage Spitfires looks correct to me. The early ones have too deep a chin, as though they are long range PR models with the larger oil tank.)
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Agreed on the absurd part.
P.S. I consider them 3.0. There was an intermediate update between original AH1 and what started with B-24/Ki-84/T-34, but it was a higher resolution better laid out bitmap rather than the hi-poly meshes we have now. I consider that 2.0.
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Remember the p-40's over sized cartoon wheels. :rock
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B26 next please
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YES!!!! the quad .30 cal MG's in the tail with boat loads of ammo will be BETTER than the lightly fed dual .50 MG's we have now. I've wanted this version ever since I've started playing AH in Jan of '08. Woo Hoo!!! :)
This is great news! I hope to see a few more updates or another plane or two before the next version. :pray :D
Bud why do i have a starnge gut feeling we will be flying these ALOT!!!!!!! in Dux :airplane: :rofl
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Since this is the Lanc B III, does this mean we'll get the Derp Bomb?
"either the 12k or 22k"
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*proceeds to wipe drool off desk...keyboard, mouse, self* :x
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beautiful work guys, it is enough to make you weep a tear of joy. :aok
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what about the yak and 202 and 205??? they are in need of a makeover.
But yes the new lanc looks very sexy. Can't wait to shot a few down :devil :devil :devil
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Yaks, B26, Ki61, Ki84, and JapCV Torp and Dive bombers need an overhaul though
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Another pretty looking bird to destroy with taters! Thank you HTC!
updated yak please?
:D
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If I had it my way , the yak9 ....
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I cant wait to see it in the game but still want my b-25j :)
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Yaks, B26, Ki61, Ki84, and JapCV Torp and Dive bombers need an overhaul though
They do, among others you left out, but the Lanc was in need of it as well, and it is one of the most used aircraft in the game.
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Yaks, B26, Ki61, Ki84, and JapCV Torp and Dive bombers need an overhaul though
I agree on the B26 without hesitation. The Ki-84 Frank has has an upgrade (or was introduced later), take a look at the controls in the cockpit. The Ki-61 Tony on the other hand yeah it is certainly and AH original. The Yaks fall in to that category as well.
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Really looks fabulous. :aok
These new series of models released over the past year and a half are stellar. :salute to the modelling team, and Greebo on the Skin.
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You'll be able to select which tail turret you want in the hangar.
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sweet !!!!!!! i cant wait , the tail gun selection is nice touch.
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You'll be able to select which tail turret you want in the hangar.
NICE! A BIG :aok to HTC. :D
Will we being seeing any new bomb loads?
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NICE! A BIG :aok to HTC. :D
Will we being seeing any new bomb loads?
That's an answer I'm waiting on... Especially whether if it will have the derp bombs or not...
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I think it unlikely there would be any very large bombs modelled on the Lanc. IIRC HTC once said the 4,000 lb cookie was the largest bomb they were going to include in the game. Also the new AH Lanc does not have the bulged bomb bay doors needed to allow really big bombs like the Tallboy to be fitted inside. The Grand Slam was so big the bomb bay doors were removed and fairings added to the front and back of the bay, two turrets were removed and more powerful Merlins fitted. None of that is modelled in the new AH Lanc, in fact a Grand Slam Lanc would probably need to be a completely seperate aircraft.
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Would love to see before and after side by side pics. Looking beautiful! :aok
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The Fw190A-8, along with every other Fw190, is already updated.
Now, the more traditional Lancaster killer, the Bf110G-2, does need an update.
Tuche. ( I'll add to it the Ju-88 too, didn't it claim a number? :devil )
The 410 will eat 'em like a can opener though. What's the range of .303s fired rearward?
If I had it my way , the yak9 ....
Nah, TB-3, unique and bold russian bomber/transport design. :aok
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I think it unlikely there would be any very large bombs modelled on the Lanc. IIRC HTC once said the 4,000 lb cookie was the largest bomb they were going to include in the game. Also the new AH Lanc does not have the bulged bomb bay doors needed to allow really big bombs like the Tallboy to be fitted inside. The Grand Slam was so big the bomb bay doors were removed and fairings added to the front and back of the bay, two turrets were removed and more powerful Merlins fitted. None of that is modelled in the new AH Lanc, in fact a Grand Slam Lanc would probably need to be a completely seperate aircraft.
I'm not so keen on having anything bigger than the 4000lb bombs we currently have. There isn't anything that calls for that large of a bomb in AH anyways, save for maybe the HQ. However, I found a few sources that have laid out some what most would consider "odd" bomb load outs for a heavy bomber, but the RAF used them with good effect. For instance:
The 236 x 4 lb incendiary bombs and the 4000 lb "cookie" made for an interesting tactic (cookie blows the roofs off and the incendiary lights the structures on fire). Granted, we have no use for incendiary in AH but the thought of hundreds of small bombs used alongside a single big bomb is interesting.
Here is a link showing some of the typical bomb loads that Lancaster carried: http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_bomb_loads.htm
I hope to see some of them, especially the six 2000 lb AP and three 500 lb GP/AP/SAP bombs to go with them. :aok Sounds like a good HQ runner to me. :D
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The new lancs look great, probably because of the enlarged texture map.