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Title: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Lusche on March 15, 2013, 09:27:54 AM
... but  unfortunately on the Bish side, while we Knights...

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/A52_zps5bcfdc23.jpg)


are still holding A52 for the fourth day now.  :lol  :rolleyes:  :bhead




But WTG Bishops on showing an unusual but smart restraint  :salute
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: jeffdn on March 15, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
There has been much chastising on the Bish country channel over the repeated attempts by some to retake it... "The town is white flagged and they aren't defending it!" You think?
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Lusche on March 15, 2013, 09:37:31 AM
There has been much chastising on the Bish country channel over the repeated attempts by some to retake it... "The town is white flagged and they aren't defending it!" You think?

The night before I witnessed some half-hearted recapture attempts by the Bish. And was repeatedly going  :bhead by all the Knight yells for "HELP 52", even some guys trying to convince us how "important" it is to hold that base ...
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: jeffdn on March 15, 2013, 09:41:01 AM
The night before I witnessed some half-hearted recapture attempts by the Bish. And was repeatedly going  :bhead by all the Knight yells for "HELP 52", even some guys trying to convince us how "important" it is to hold that base ...
Most people have a hard time understanding the "bigger picture" of what's going on in-game.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: GOODBYE on March 15, 2013, 09:54:50 AM
Of course you want to hold 52, it obviously holds a distinct advantage being surrounded like that  :rofl
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: matt on March 15, 2013, 10:02:07 AM
The night before I witnessed some half-hearted recapture attempts by the Bish. And was repeatedly going  :bhead by all the Knight yells for "HELP 52", even some guys trying to convince us how "important" it is to hold that base ...
  :rofl
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Greebo on March 15, 2013, 10:06:32 AM
Funny though this situation is, there is something very wrong with a strat system that lets it happen.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: SkyRock on March 15, 2013, 10:07:16 AM
Me and a couple of squaddies had a fun time fighting out of 52 the other night....   :aok
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Lusche on March 15, 2013, 10:11:10 AM
Funny though this situation is, there is something very wrong with a strat system that lets it happen.

Exactly. Usually the industrial center of any country should be the prime target of any offensive thrusts, instead of avoiding the vicinity at all costs.
Imagine the strats had not moved away - how utmost important it would be for the bish to recapture the ground, and how important for the nits to hold it at all costs. What a great way to focus the action instead of grabbing bases randomly all over the map that could be

:old:
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: jeep00 on March 15, 2013, 01:14:23 PM
Yea was a nice litte break from fighting the continuous horde the Bish seem to move in nowadays.
Now that's not necessarily fair we all don't horde and since some number of us like the red dar vs the green, we can very easily find ourselves being "horded". There seems to be more a larger number on all sides that prefer the "attack" portion over the "defend" portion so every country has a handful of players that feel the others are always hording.  :salute
And I agree on 52 even this morning there was much discussion over taking it because "no one is upping"  :bhead
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: bacon8tr on March 15, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
Exactly. Usually the industrial center of any country should be the prime target of any offensive thrusts, instead of avoiding the vicinity at all costs.
Imagine the strats had not moved away - how utmost important it would be for the bish to recapture the ground, and how important for the nits to hold it at all costs. What a great way to focus the action instead of grabbing bases randomly all over the map that could be

:old:

That's exactly why the strats shouldn't move.  Hold a safe perimeter around your strats or your country suffers the consequences  :rock
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: muzik on March 15, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
Funny though this situation is, there is something very wrong with a strat system that lets it happen.

I don't know much about the strat system in AW, but wasnt a base dependant on the drone c47s for resupply? And why did they stop using that method?
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Franz Von Werra on March 15, 2013, 07:44:58 PM
It's not only c47's, lvts and m3's that can supply a base. The key, in this case, is probably killing either the convoy of supply trucks or the tugboat with supply barges that are towed in from the sea - whichever the base receives.

If you really want to keep the base 'down' then killing those is probably a must. Problem is they seem worth near zero points. Why would anyone fly to an enemy base and use up their precious amo, which they were saving to vulch, on the programs 'auto supply vehicles.'

How does this stuff go? Suppose that every supply convoy is entirely destroyed, will the base repair at all? How much does destroying one truck or barge slow the re-upping of a base, or a component of a base?

Possible solution, knowledge of how trucks/barges affect stuff, and making them worth more points! Achievement?

Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: DOUG on March 15, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
all the buildings magically dissapear and are NOW 150miles elswhere. Thats the new strat system :uhoh
elfy
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Lusche on March 15, 2013, 08:37:43 PM
all the buildings magically dissapear and are NOW 150miles elswhere. Thats the new strat system :uhoh


Three years is new????  :huh
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Sunka on March 15, 2013, 09:47:19 PM

Three years is new????  :huh
Well

ya ...kinda.
 :aok
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Chalenge on March 15, 2013, 09:48:04 PM
The same people wishing that 52 remains in knit hands also wants TT to be strictly nit and rook held. The reason seems to be that the mud drivers will then help with the war, but that isn't what happens and so after midnight the call goes out for all mud drivers to log out so the fliers can fly the planes they want. If that is what you call brains. . .
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Bruv119 on March 16, 2013, 03:13:13 AM
bish throwing the towel in on TT now that is new.  doesn't surprise me though, the horde doesn't want combat just all your bases.

If any British Bish players want to seek enlightenment and break free from the shallow gameplay the horde does produce then seek me out in game or here and I will bless you with my wisdom and friendship.   Don't get me wrong I enjoy capturing fields but do it with the few and not the many. 

Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: RedBull1 on March 16, 2013, 03:16:48 AM
If any British Bish players want to seek enlightenment and break free from the shallow gameplay the horde does produce then seek me out in game or here and I will curse you with my wisdom and friendship. 
Fixed 



 :devil :D :neener: :bolt:


 :noid
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: HawkerMKII on March 16, 2013, 07:22:11 AM
bish throwing the towel in on TT now that is new.  doesn't surprise me though, the horde doesn't want combat just all your bases.

If any British Bish players want to seek enlightenment and break free from the shallow gameplay the horde does produce then seek me out in game or here and I will bless you with my wisdom and friendship.   Don't get me wrong I enjoy capturing fields but do it with the few and not the many. 



(http://imageshack.us/a/img268/2076/kiddingh.jpg)
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Eric19 on March 16, 2013, 08:41:49 AM
you knits actually did a good thing for us bish taking that base with all of its sewage run from our factorys and crap lol oh and now you have to fly another 150-175 miles to hit our strats :)
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Dadsguns on March 16, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
I don't see what all the fret is about...  doesn't take brains to know that if you can't bring a fight when an opportunity presents itself why would you want to take it.... they obviously felt secure enough to know that there would be no significant retaliation.  Had there been a bigger threat They would have taken that base quickly.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: The Fugitive on March 16, 2013, 11:05:35 AM
The whole trick here was that as long as that base stayed "enemy" the strats would stay "retreated" and so would have been safer.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Dadsguns on March 16, 2013, 11:26:57 AM
Oh I get the game mechanics And realize HTC will probably fix it... but in the meantime that should have been a Killzone and such a nuisance that they would have taken it just so that they could focus back on to taking bases.......
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Chalenge on March 16, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
Not how knits roll.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: kvuo75 on March 16, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Oh I get the game mechanics And realize HTC will probably fix it... but in the meantime that should have been a Killzone and such a nuisance that they would have taken it just so that they could focus back on to taking bases.......

fix it? it was "fixed" years ago already.  when the moving strats came out, they'd stay back permanently and never come back forward after a zone base was re-taken..  the strat system was  "fixed" so now they move to and fro, depending on who owns the zone bases at the front strat area. (turn on zones on your map to see)

the only other solution was one countries strats would stay forward and just be completely surrounded by enemy bases..

I wouldn't care either way, but I can see where that would get a lot of whining, seeing as how much more "important" strats are to the base takers.

 

Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: molybdenum on March 16, 2013, 10:26:55 PM
And I and other bish were similarly banging our heads at the urging from teammates to take 52. "It'll be fun!" "it's white flagged!" "No defenders!" "Send troops!" etc. Some of it was ignorance, but unfortunately (imo) most of it was a childish need for instant gratification....
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: RELIC on March 17, 2013, 12:14:52 AM
And I and other bish were similarly banging our heads at the urging from teammates to take 52. "It'll be fun!" "it's white flagged!" "No defenders!" "Send troops!" etc. Some of it was ignorance, but unfortunately (imo) most of it was a childish need for instant gratification....
You will find the game a lot more enjoyable once you stop worrying about what your other teammates are doing for fun.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Daddkev on March 18, 2013, 12:42:42 PM
 :huh :huh :devil :devil :devil :devil It was all my idea!!!  :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :ahand :ahand :neener: :neener: :ahand :ahand :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: kvuo75 on March 18, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
You will find the game a lot more enjoyable once you stop worrying about what your other teammates are doing for fun.

absolutely true.
Title: Re: A rare display of brains...
Post by: Sg11 on March 19, 2013, 03:50:01 AM
absolutely true.

+1