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Title: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 10, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
So I was thinking about an upgrade and have been out of the building world for years now.  Was thinking of...

CPU -

MB -

Memory -

Graphics -

OS -

Please fill in the blanks.  I want to run everything at max settings and want to do it for less than 700.00.  These are the only things that need an update so no complete systems.

Thanks in advance

 :airplane:
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ColTomb on April 11, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Trying to post a clear pic from PhotoBucket.
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: TequilaChaser on April 11, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
First off, I am not sure you can get there to run everything max in AH for $700 or Under...... especially not knowing what kind of case, what kind of PSU, what kind of CPU HeatSink cooler, you plan on re using for this upgrade....

So I was thinking about an upgrade and have been out of the building world for years now.  Was thinking of...

CPU -

MB -

Memory -

Graphics -

OS -

Please fill in the blanks.  I want to run everything at max settings and want to do it for less than 700.00.  These are the only things that need an update so no complete systems.

Thanks in advance

 :airplane:

TC
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 11, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
There is no case its mounted to the underside of my desk...stealth mode with the cd/dvd drive mounted on the front.  I have a 750 watt PS and it would be the standard heat sink that comes with the MB CPU package.  r would you recommend another?
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ColTomb on April 11, 2013, 10:37:37 PM
Toe Tag, as TC said you will not get max settings for $700. Here is a link to a public wish list from NewEgg that is within your price,
but will not get you max settings, better than average, yes but not maxed.   http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=30297288

Notes.. 1) Windows 7 home premium will only allow 16GB of memory. Win 7 pro and above will address up to 32GB.
           2) The video card is only 2GB at a 256 bit rate. To run AH at max settings you will need a lot more video card than this. Maybe the $1000 Nvidia Titan ?
               I don't have that kind of money to find out.
           3) The memory timings are 8-8-8-24 and is only $2 more than the 9-9-9-24 Timings.
           4) If you over clock the processor to exstream speeds, you will need something better than a stock heat sink and fan.
           5) Do you have a quality power supply, NOT a $40 750 watt Rosewill or equivalent cheap brand? Seasonic, Corsair are quality power supply's with a good warranty.
               Check who actually manufactures your power supply here.   http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers    and another source    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html
               This info may be outdated. It is constantly changing. You can't go wrong with a Seasonic power supply.

I gave up on PhotoBucket. You could build a $2000+ computer and still not run AH with "everything" maxed out at a steady 60 FPS. It comes down to how much eye candy do you want.
               

 
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 11, 2013, 10:55:59 PM
2000 + dollars and I get less than perfect for this game? .................Blow it out your azz...time for a new game
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ColTomb on April 11, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
Your welcomed. Enjoy your new game.
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: BaldEagl on April 11, 2013, 11:40:20 PM
Everything maxed out would take a HUGE amount of computing power.  That means you're going to run the highest possible resolution setting with every bit of eye candy maxed out and all your graphic card settings maxed as well.  I highly doubt there's more than a few people playing that can do that successfully.  The estimate of spending a couple of grand to be able to do that isn't far fetched.

As soon as you lower the resolution setting somewhat running more of the eye candy becomes possible.  Lowering your graphic card setting allows even more to be run.  Between these two options alone I doubt you'd see a noticable difference in what the game looks like but you'd see huge gains in performance.

There's no doubt in my mind that you can put $700 into the components you're considering and get acceptable performance but you won't come close to "maxing everything out".  What's important to each person is different.  Spend the amount you're willing to spend and sacrifice where it least affects you to achive the look and performance you want.

I'd like to have a Lamborgini myself but it's not in my buget so I've made comprimises.
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: guncrasher on April 12, 2013, 12:33:08 AM
what he's talking about is not everything "maxed" out, but with shadows at 2046 and forget em as I still cant figure out what it does. all the other sliders are on.


toetag for 700 bucks you should be able to upgrade to a nice rig with "everything" maxed out.

win7 64bit home premium
I currently have a 2500k
150 dollar mobo
16 gigs of ram
and 2 sli evga 465's one of which I bought for 100 bucks. but you can find something equivalent for less than what I paid for both.

and I play with everything maxed out. shadows at 4096 and dont really care for em as like I said i cant see what it does.  you can argue that it isnt "maxed" out but that is your own opinion.

semp
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 12, 2013, 05:18:04 PM
OK I think GC got what I was asking....just hi res tex on skins and terrain with shadows etc.  Not max resolution on 5 monitors with all sliders to the right. 
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: numb1 on April 12, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Hey i just upgraded my 7850 2gb vid card to duel 7950s and i have only used my 7850 cards for three months and i wanna get rid of it..Right now its packed in the box and i have everything with it.There is nothing wrong with it at all i just had money to spend so i went crossfire 7950s well i have 1 card now and the next i get next week..I will part with it for half of what its worth if you want message me..

This is the card i have

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 12, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
   No offense but I buy new only
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: numb1 on April 12, 2013, 11:18:20 PM
None taken as i am the same way.I just had it sitting around so i thought i would offer.
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: Bizman on April 13, 2013, 03:41:17 AM
None taken as i am the same way.I just had it sitting around so i thought i would offer.
Advert it on AH classifieds. Not all of us want new only. I'm perfectly happy with the HD6970 Zack1234 pre-tested for me.  :joystick: :salute
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ColTomb on April 13, 2013, 07:16:57 AM
If that is all you wanted, then the wish list items I posted will exceed your expectations. NewEgg just took $30 off the video card.

You may even get that kind of performance with an DualCore I-3 processor. I have no experience with the I-3, but the reviews for the

3220 are very good. AH is only a duel core game for now anyway. You will lose the PCIx 3.0 video performance (Only Intel's I-5 and I-7 support PCIx 3.0 and

some AMD boards as well) but most video cards are backwards compatible.

I would put the components in a computer case instead of mounting it under a desk. Unless you have a fan blowing on it somehow. a well designed case will allow for directed air flow over

over critical components.  

I just noticed that they took another $10 off the processor.

  
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: ToeTag on April 13, 2013, 03:28:28 PM
I thought that case fans were to get hot air out of a box and cool air in the box..and the fans over and in the components were to get the cool air directly on the item.....No box should equal no hot air.  I have run with this set up for 5 years now and never had a heat issue.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: guncrasher on April 13, 2013, 06:03:12 PM
I thought that case fans were to get hot air out of a box and cool air in the box..and the fans over and in the components were to get the cool air directly on the item.....No box should equal no hot air.  I have run with this set up for 5 years now and never had a heat issue.  Am I missing something?

yes, a nice looking case with pretty lights to show off :).



semp
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: Bizman on April 14, 2013, 04:24:42 AM
I thought that case fans were to get hot air out of a box and cool air in the box..and the fans over and in the components were to get the cool air directly on the item.....No box should equal no hot air.  I have run with this set up for 5 years now and never had a heat issue.  Am I missing something?
Your idea of case fans is only partially correct. Of course, that is what they do, but that isn't all.

One important thing that a good case does is controlling the airflow. I recall the then new dead silent PowerMacs having fans both in front and in the back, connected with tubes that had gaps in certain places on the way to increase the airflow through heat sinks.

Now you might know that hot air moves up. It also moves sideways, but not so fast. If you have your motherboard bolted flat under your table, the CPU cooling has to work upside down, the fan desperately trying to move the air first through the sink and then along the vast table bottom area to the edges. Most likely you have your table along the wall and you're blocking the airflow with your body on the other side. During a prolonged session the same air keeps circulating under your table, getting warmer and warmer... The fact that you haven't had any problems so far only tells that there's enough space under your table to keep your components below critical temperatures. You might be surprised if you compared the temperatures of your components under the desk and then in a well designed case.
Title: Re: New pute
Post by: MADe on April 16, 2013, 10:58:44 PM
CPU - Intel i7......?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

MB - Gigabyte EX 58 or better

Memory - Kingston DDR3 1300MHz minimum

Graphics - EVGA GTX ......?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$PCI-e 2.0

OS - W7 Ultimate 64 Bit

my 25cents