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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Clone155 on April 16, 2013, 05:44:47 AM
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With the new wind in place, I fear that altitude level bombing will go extinct! I've been thinking of quite a few different ways to try and bring attention back to level bombing, and I think I've come up with two radical new ideas that might help the cause!
Idea #1- Give bomb dispersal over an area of a half a mile. Almost like a shotgun scatter affect. The pattern will be random, so you cannot predict where exactly the bomb will go. Have any target (even a hanger) be destroyed if hit directly by a 1000 lb bomb. Give a small delay to the drones when bombs drop so 3 bombs don't drop exactly at the same time. This would give a nice carpet bomb effect.
This would be challenging to code, and would redesign how level bombing works, but I think it would draw people back to bombers! I think this would be a better representation of real life anyway. The smart bombs we have now are too accurate! :old:
Idea #2- Hangers destroyed by Heavy bombers (ex- Lanc, b17, b24, b29) get a down time of 30 minutes.
With the wind in place, it takes a lot of work to try and bomb above 10k. If this idea was installed, we would see a lot more low level heavy bombers, but I feel that's what fighters are for! :airplane: If they are below 10k, there is no excuse for not taking them out. We will need some think tanks on this idea to counter the bomber scourge that we would see.
So, what do you think? :devil
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The exodus of our squads bomber guys has already begun. That should make the furballing 'perk the bomb' punks happy.
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TBH I like the wind. I think it gives the game a new change, and I welcome that. They only need to add something else, to make it worth the time to fly 30 minutes to a target, and 30 minutes back. Sadly the only fix I can foresee is them just taking out the wind.
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I like your ideas. It would also be good if over time the arena had dynamic wind that changed from heavy to calm.
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bomb sight is getting fixed for next update.
semp
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The exodus of our squads bomber guys has already begun. That should make the furballing 'perk the bomb' punks happy.
Exodus? There may have been a quick trip to the store for more diapers, but I think most people who had any issues with the wind, etc, have graduated to big boy shorts by now. No, the sky is not falling. :rofl
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It is a bug that will be fixed next patch. Almost certainly within three days. Hitech said as much.
Why do people keep assuming this is here to stay? Don't you think HTC would have included such a major change in the new version notes?
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It is a bug that will be fixed next patch. Almost certainly within three days. Hitech said as much.
Why do people keep assuming this is here to stay? Don't you think HTC would have included such a major change in the new version notes?
That is quite sad to hear. I guess we go back to the super accurate smart bombs from 30k :frown:
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That is quite sad to hear. I guess we go back to the super accurate smart bombs from 30k :frown:
That is a better option than no bombers or bombers only used as dive bombers.
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That is a better option than no bombers or bombers only used as dive bombers.
For the time being, yes.
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Hmm doesn't affect my dive bombing in a TBM or Stuka so HiTech do what you may.
And as a side note I freaqueny bomb in 26's at 10k. And about 60% of the time all is well. The other 40% most fighters get caught in my rear cone of fire. Things change tho 5 on 1
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Exodus? There may have been a quick trip to the store for more diapers, but I think most people who had any issues with the wind, etc, have graduated to big boy shorts by now. No, the sky is not falling. :rofl
No, of course not. The problem is when someone only has time for one sortie and they fly two hours only to get hit in the face with disappointment they may (as in one case in particular) just close their account. Look how many newcomers engage with tanks and see hits, don't understand the details involved, and leave rather then show a little patience. And it's not just the wind layers.
The factories have now all been grouped together for some time. The reward of capturing fields near the strats so you can bomb them has been removed because they retreat to the rear. While towns are important to bomb to bomber pilots it seems lame to bomb a town when they could be hitting strategic targets, but now since they want to hit what they bomb they are stuck staying low, which means they have to have a lot of escorts. That means more hordes.
I very much enjoy escorting DHBG to strategic targets, but those days are gone. The already few bombers are becoming more scarce. If you have not seen the subscribers becoming more scarce you have blinders on.
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I personally like Idea #1 and think that this would solve our bomber problem :old:
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I personally like Idea #1 and think that this would solve our bomber problem :old:
42 bombs shotgunned over a half square mile would be lucky to hit anything on an AH airfield. It isn't worth the flight time and low chance of getting your Lanc's there to do that instead of hand the bombs to the target in a F4U, F6F, Fw190, P-38, P-47, P-51 or Typhoon.
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I personally like Idea #1 and think that this would solve our bomber problem :old:
It would make fighter bombers much more attractive. 1000lbs per hangar means some Jabos can take down all 3 FH's on a small field all by themself.
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That is a very good point
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42 bombs shotgunned over a half square mile would be lucky to hit anything on an AH airfield. It isn't worth the flight time and low chance of getting your Lanc's there to do that instead of hand the bombs to the target in a F4U, F6F, Fw190, P-38, P-47, P-51 or Typhoon.
Well it doesn't have to be half a square mile, I just threw that out because I have no idea what would be an acceptable range :P
Maybe a quarter of a mile? 1/8th?
It would make fighter bombers much more attractive. 1000lbs per hangar means some Jabos can take down all 3 FH's on a small field all by themself.
No sir, my plan is that only heavy bombers with the scatter pattern can take out any object with a 1000lb bomb . Jabos and maybe even mediums would still have the 3000lb limit.
Edit: words are hard :lol
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42 bombs shotgunned over a half square mile would be lucky to hit anything on an AH airfield. It isn't worth the flight time and low chance of getting your Lanc's there to do that instead of hand the bombs to the target in a F4U, F6F, Fw190, P-38, P-47, P-51 or Typhoon.
Actually, if the scatter affect increased in relation to altitude, that would work better and more realistically! :old:
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Actually, if the scatter affect increased in relation to altitude, that would work better and more realistically! :old:
They didn't scatter randomly in reality. If you watch old footage you see each bomber's stick dig a line of holes, each individual bomb may drift a bit to one side, but overall it is a line of holes.
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They didn't scatter randomly in reality. If you watch old footage you see each bomber's stick dig a line of holes, each individual bomb may drift a bit to one side, but overall it is a line of holes.
Yes. When I say random, I do not mean simply like an actual shot gun pattern. But the bombs fall randomly enough so that you can't hit a pickle barrel. A line of bomb craters spaced out on an x axis at a reasonable distance is what I'm going for.
Look at these bombs fall, the spread here is noticeable almost about right after they leave the bay. This is what I mean.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzWASv70y_I#t=1m39s
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I like to fly bombers and the wind is more realistic. Be for it was easy.Landing huge damage points was common but, during WW II it just did not happen. It's disappointing to fly an hour and not get a good run, it's also disappointing to fly an hour and get shot down while on your run.
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Yes. When I say random, I do not mean simply like an actual shot gun pattern. But the bombs fall randomly enough so that you can't hit a pickle barrel. A line of bomb craters spaced out on an x axis at a reasonable distance is what I'm going for.
Look at these bombs fall, the spread here is noticeable almost about right after they leave the bay. This is what I mean.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzWASv70y_I#t=1m39s
as far as i know, this is already modeled in the game.. its more noticable with the smaller bombs (100's, or 250's)
try dropping 250's from 30k.
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try dropping 250's from 30k.
No but thanks anyway. :D
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ur right, this is crazy :ahand
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try dropping 250's from 30k.
I actually do that a lot :uhoh
Well, not from 30k, but from 28k :old:
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I actually do that a lot :uhoh
Well, not from 30k, but from 28k :old:
am I remembering correctly? I havent done it in so long, but I seem to remember the lighter bombs spreading out quite a bit.