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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: deadstikmac on May 09, 2013, 01:02:50 PM
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:furious
So we all have been trolling the other forum posts about Shade Accounts.
An inside perspective on what can be done by players....
I want to create 3 accounts and I have 3 computers in which too run all of these accounts actively at one time. For the sole purpose of monitoring all three country's text buffer. Now I can see effectively in country chat where missions are being launched from, whom is in the missions, where they are going and what they are taking.
On top of that information I would otherwise not have access too, I now can see where EVERY CV is located at on the map and if my rank is high enough I can take control of CVs' and guide them into traps being set with the information I gathered from having 3 accounts.
I can spread MISSINFORMATION among the country in which I wish to disrupt for the tactical advantage of causing fighting within the country to dismantle any would be uprising in order to more effectively place myself in postion for killing on my main account. (IE causing arguments on a specific country chat just to disrupt that country's effective fighting)
I can Shade Vulch for Perk Farming with out anyone noticing simply by changing the names of TWO accounts on a "KILL BASIS" to mask or conceal the kills on the players names and on the plane types. Also I can record video in which I have two of my irl friends come over and mock dogfight with me but have the intentions of letting me shoot them down. Then use that video to prove I was NOT shade killing.
This only took me a few minutes to post, if there is more I think of, I will add to this post during the day.
:airplane:
OVERALL the goal of this post is to start a dialogue for HOW TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF PLAYER!
I was just trying to think of ways the system can be abused and those were the first thought that came to mind.
Everyone is pointing the finger at Hi-Tech Creations to do something about this..... well lets hear some suggestions of WHAT CAN BE DONE. As we all have been well aware of the shade accounts for perk farming. No one has really made any suggestions for what should or could be done. (outside of separating perks for each arena)
We all pretty much agree that this type of player should be discouraged from the game and made known to others when they do act in this manner.
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(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4513818388398386&pid=15.1)
EW and MW main arenas have been a part of the game for awhile now. I wouldn't be surprised if shade accounts have existed even longer.
Why is it suddenly a crisis? I got no respect for those who feel the need to do this anymore than you. But, geez, I guess I just don't care
as much and it's not hurting my fun one bit. :cool:
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So far the best I have is that "Hall of Shades" list and seep rate perks for each arena.
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(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4513818388398386&pid=15.1)
EW and MW main arenas have been a part of the game for awhile now. I wouldn't be surprised if shade accounts have existed even longer.
Why is it suddenly a crisis? I got no respect for those who feel the need to do this anymore than you. But, geez, I guess I just don't care
as much and it's not hurting my fun one bit. :cool:
And yeah why now the witch hunt is what I'm interested in knowing?
Also a side note.... What does it say that someone would have (let's say) 10Fighter sorties with 30 kills placing them in the top 100 for fighter score and just not up as a Fighter Sortie only to "protect" that rank they would otherwise not have if they did not up 300 Attack Sorties?
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So far the best I have is that "Hall of Shades" list and seep rate perks for each arena.
The bad side of a witch hunt is when the witch was just a regular ol player, however. I saw this
tried/suggested to stop head ons and vulching. Didn't work out so well.
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And me personally... Why would someone care about score or rank..... That has ZERO reflection of skill........ In most cases. :bolt:
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And yeah why now the witch hunt is what I'm interested in knowing?
Also a side note.... What does it say that someone would have (let's say) 10Fighter sorties with 30 kills placing them in the top 100 for fighter score and just not up as a Fighter Sortie only to "protect" that rank they would otherwise not have if they did not up 300 Attack Sorties?
That they're a casual player with family and job responsibilities or that they don't want to sit at the computer a majority of their time? As for me, I haven't hyperventilated about score ... ever ... other's or mine. :D
As a side note, just how many characteristics of other players that don't sit well with you are you thinking of persecuting? :x
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Just fly ..... shoot the other guy. :aok
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:furious
So we all have been trolling the other forum posts about Shade Accounts.
An inside perspective on what can be done by players....
I want to create 3 accounts and I have 3 computers in which too run all of these accounts actively at one time. For the sole purpose of monitoring all three country's text buffer. Now I can see effectively in country chat where missions are being launched from, whom is in the missions, where they are going and what they are taking.
On top of that information I would otherwise not have access too, I now can see where EVERY CV is located at on the map and if my rank is high enough I can take control of CVs' and guide them into traps being set with the information I gathered from having 3 accounts.
I can spread MISSINFORMATION among the country in which I wish to disrupt for the tactical advantage of causing fighting within the country to dismantle any would be uprising in order to more effectively place myself in postion for killing on my main account. (IE causing arguments on a specific country chat just to disrupt that country's effective fighting)
I can Shade Vulch for Perk Farming with out anyone noticing simply by changing the names of TWO accounts on a "KILL BASIS" to mask or conceal the kills on the players names and on the plane types. Also I can record video in which I have two of my irl friends come over and mock dogfight with me but have the intentions of letting me shoot them down. Then use that video to prove I was NOT shade killing.
This only took me a few minutes to post, if there is more I think of, I will add to this post during the day.
:airplane:
OVERALL the goal of this post is to start a dialogue for HOW TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF PLAYER!
I was just trying to think of ways the system can be abused and those were the first thought that came to mind.
Everyone is pointing the finger at Hi-Tech Creations to do something about this..... well lets hear some suggestions of WHAT CAN BE DONE. As we all have been well aware of the shade accounts for perk farming. No one has really made any suggestions for what should or could be done. (outside of separating perks for each arena)
We all pretty much agree that this type of player should be discouraged from the game and made known to others when they do act in this manner.
May I have have some of the spare time you are using to worry about this nonsense?
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This is a golden opportunity for HTC to realize enhanced revenues: introduce the "Inverse Discount". :aok
Your first AH account is billed at the usual $15 per month. Applying the Inverse Discount to the second account, it will only set you back a paltry $30 every month, the third account is $45, the fourth is $60, and so on...
;)
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After two kills, make all subsequent kills of the same player worthless; they add no perks, kill points, or kill totals to your record. It would be as if the death of the player never happened.
Not only is the problem solved, but it will diminish spawn camping and vulching as well.
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After two kills, make all subsequent kills of the same player worthless; they add no perks, kill points, or kill totals to your record. It would be as if the death of the player never happened.
Not only is the problem solved, but it will diminish spawn camping and vulching as well.
3 kills just in case I get all three of someone's buffs.
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Hell, just eliminate points, score, rank altogether and make perks a purchase item. :aok
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Hell, just eliminate points, score, rank altogether and make perks a purchase item. :aok
Fail
:noid
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Fail
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Hey, don't be like that. You appear to consider this something very important and started this thread under
the apparent premise of discussing ways to end perk-farm dual account cheaters from perk-farming with a
second account. This would do it. Nothing to farm. Second account useless. If you don't like this method,
give reason. Don't pout. :aok
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another scumbag spy,no wonder this game play is going down hill
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Hey, don't be like that. You appear to consider this something very important and started this thread under
the apparent premise of discussing ways to end perk-farm dual account cheaters from perk-farming with a
second account. This would do it. Nothing to farm. Second account useless. If you don't like this method,
give reason. Don't pout. :aok
I am sorry sir for some reason it seems as if you are trolling me in here.
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I am sorry sir for some reason it seems as if you are trolling me in here.
Please don't mistake my not taking you as seriously as you want me to for trolling.
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Please don't mistake my not taking you as seriously as you want me to for trolling.
My mistake sir.
:salute
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Not only is the problem solved, but it will diminish spawn camping and vulching as well.
I like it! (make it 3, for the formations, like someone said)
only problem, I'd almost bet that 50% of the kills in the arena are from spawn camping and vulching.
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another scumbag spy,no wonder this game play is going down hill
Who sir?
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problem is vulching and camping legitimately is fun. People would still do it if you took away the score / perk benefits.
It may even increase the activity if players wrongly believe that their repeated deaths have less value to the killer.
The only way of dealing with that sort of gameplay is to limit the amount of time between lives which we all know would open another can of worms.
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Vulching and camping are a different story than me starting a second account and farming it for the purpose of perk points that I would otherwise not have in order to fly a plane I would not be able too.
The post by Delirum was a good solution but would need "tweaked" it's not an end all.
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I am sorry sir for some reason it seems as if you are trolling me in here.
can you blame him when you are posting stuff like this? :lol
I want to create 3 accounts and I have 3 computers in which too run all of these accounts actively at one time. For the sole purpose of monitoring all three country's text buffer. Now I can see effectively in country chat where missions are being launched from, whom is in the missions, where they are going and what they are taking.
On top of that information I would otherwise not have access too, I now can see where EVERY CV is located at on the map and if my rank is high enough I can take control of CVs' and guide them into traps being set with the information I gathered from having 3 accounts.
I can spread MISSINFORMATION among the country in which I wish to disrupt for the tactical advantage of causing fighting within the country to dismantle any would be uprising in order to more effectively place myself in postion for killing on my main account. (IE causing arguments on a specific country chat just to disrupt that country's effective fighting)
:old:
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So if i I fly a 109f to an eny base and the same 51d keeps upping I get penalized for my skill :o
no thank you.
And spawn cling is part of the
game. If you sont like it up a few fighters and take em out.
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I have a shade account and I never spy because for most I fly the same country. It's just another style of flying and a different plane set. I have learned a lot since. :airplane:
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The post by Delirum was a good solution but would need "tweaked" it's not an end all.
My post was an effective solution .... to ending perk-farming (by any means) once and for all.
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Good Grief.
Do you honestly think a business operating in a very capitalistic country is going to turn down paying customers just because a few people have abused their ability to operate more than 1 computer at a time.
It's not like you have to be a millionaire to buy 2 or 3 accounts and own 2 computers. Any Thousandaire could easily afford it, and probably a lot of Hundredaires too.
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Delete their perks for the 1st violation.
Delete their accounts and a add a complimentary two week lockout from the game for the second violation.
BanHammer for strike three.
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I would much rather have players opening ten accounts and wasting a lot of time to obtain perks then to have the 'game is free, pay for stuff' paradigm which is too much like the real world for me.
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Some people pay way too much attention to the antics of a few who aren't even a real factor.
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:furious
So we all have been trolling the other forum posts about Shade Accounts.
An inside perspective on what can be done by players....
I want to create 3 accounts and I have 3 computers in which too run all of these accounts actively at one time. For the sole purpose of monitoring all three country's text buffer. Now I can see effectively in country chat where missions are being launched from, whom is in the missions, where they are going and what they are taking.
On top of that information I would otherwise not have access too, I now can see where EVERY CV is located at on the map and if my rank is high enough I can take control of CVs' and guide them into traps being set with the information I gathered from having 3 accounts.
I can spread MISSINFORMATION among the country in which I wish to disrupt for the tactical advantage of causing fighting within the country to dismantle any would be uprising in order to more effectively place myself in postion for killing on my main account. (IE causing arguments on a specific country chat just to disrupt that country's effective fighting)
I can Shade Vulch for Perk Farming with out anyone noticing simply by changing the names of TWO accounts on a "KILL BASIS" to mask or conceal the kills on the players names and on the plane types. Also I can record video in which I have two of my irl friends come over and mock dogfight with me but have the intentions of letting me shoot them down. Then use that video to prove I was NOT shade killing.
This only took me a few minutes to post, if there is more I think of, I will add to this post during the day.
:airplane:
OVERALL the goal of this post is to start a dialogue for HOW TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF PLAYER!
I was just trying to think of ways the system can be abused and those were the first thought that came to mind.
Everyone is pointing the finger at Hi-Tech Creations to do something about this..... well lets hear some suggestions of WHAT CAN BE DONE. As we all have been well aware of the shade accounts for perk farming. No one has really made any suggestions for what should or could be done. (outside of separating perks for each arena)
We all pretty much agree that this type of player should be discouraged from the game and made known to others when they do act in this manner.
Coombz did you not read my post sir those are all things I thought of that someone COULD do.
Rob52240 ty sir for the very insightful thought which was helpful to this post.
Warmongo if you have a "Shade" account then you sir are on the fence.... if you use you shade account then your in the same boat as ArchieD and his new friends.
Arlo I will not make the mistake of taking you seriously in this topic as well sir.
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Delete their perks for the 1st violation.
Delete their accounts and a add a complimentary two week lockout from the game for the second violation.
BanHammer for strike three.
This could be added to the post by Delirium +1 sir.
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Coombz did you not read my post sir those are all things I thought of that someone COULD do.
No, no, I did read all of your post, and I laughed the whole way through :)
One of my favourite bits was the 'spreading misinformation on country channel to disrupt them and create a tactical advantage by causing them to fight amongst themselves' thing
Hell, I do this myself to my own country just for fun :angel: The reason it's fun? Because so many people (and evidently you are one of them, judging by this post) take the Great War of Aces High incredibly seriously :headscratch:
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No, no, I did read all of your post, and I laughed the whole way through :)
One of my favourite bits was the 'spreading misinformation on country channel to disrupt them and create a tactical advantage by causing them to fight amongst themselves' thing
Hell, I do this myself to my own country just for fun :angel: The reason it's fun? Because so many people (and evidently you are one of them, judging by this post) take the Great War of Aces High incredibly seriously :headscratch:
No sir I don't care about any war. Or score. Or stats.
:joystick: I DO care about what I do on the merge and if I am keeping my SA up.
I lol when I read you do that... That's funny sir.
This post was an attempt to bring an answer to the table instead of crying about ppl doing it.
If someone does this the only thing I do is make a mental note of it and go on about what I was doing.... Simple as that for me. However when I post a topic and others come into the topic and have fun making a small mess well that's just rude.
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Like many people here I don't care what others are doing. I'm going to fight a C-hog the same way whether the guy earned the points or vulched a shade account for them. Is it a classless thing to do, yup! But those are the guys I add to the ignore/squelch list and no longer have to deal with.
While HTC gives me ways to handle these things they should still be a bit more proactive in situations like this. After all it is their reputation they have to protect. "Cheating" is a big no-no and is stamped out as soon as it is found out to be happening. Those involved are sent packing. We all know this because HTC MUST protect their reputation. Not many people are going to play a game where cheating is allowed and runs rampant.
Now is score padding, perk farming built the way the OP is describing bad enough to hurt their reputation? Is score important enough to the game play mechanics that they should worry about people working their way around the conventional way of earning points/perks? After all this is a game and there has to be a way to see if your "winning" or not and that is what score does for you. If someone is "winning" with out having to work for it like other do is that fair? Would it be enough of an issue that it could hurt the game/subscriptions?
Perks are different. They are there to curb the use of more exceptional equipment, but isn't farming them in another arena defeating the purpose by allowing more perked rides than would be normally earned? Granted the number may not be big now, but what if when the summer hits and "kiddies" show up and this becomes the "way" to earn those perks they normally wouldn't be able to get and start unbalancing the arena. Would that be a big selling point for the game or again effect the bottom line at HTC?
We can voice our opinions here all we want. HTC KNOWS we are a very small portion of the over all subscription base for this game. HTC is the one who must decide if this matter is something they should act on, and what that act might be. Personally I plan on continuing to give HTC my monthly payment until they close the doors on the place, whether thats in 6 months, or another 10 years. It's all up to HTC.
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I would much rather have players opening ten accounts and wasting a lot of time to obtain perks then to have the 'game is free, pay for stuff' paradigm which is too much like the real world for me.
Dead on.
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Arlo I will not make the mistake of taking you seriously in this topic as well sir.
Thoroughly breaks my heart into tiny pieces, I tell ya. :D
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Thoroughly breaks my heart into tiny pieces, I tell ya. :D
Now I lol'd sir. :devil
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Dead on.
I would quit if the game were structured that way I agree with you there.... I think :huh
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I would quit if the game were structured that way I agree with you there.... I think :huh
It's ok. We can agree there. :)
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It's ok. We can agree there. :)
:salute
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wish I was this funny. I have to try really hard to get these results :salute
back on topic, if we do away with perks, ranks etc., how do we contol the currently perked plAnes?
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take the Great War of Aces High incredibly seriously :headscratch:
:mad: :furious :bhead it is serious business coombzy how very dare you. :old:
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I reached the point where I have stopped worrying about what everyone else is doing and just logging on to have fun. I cannot change it or prevent it , I think its just a part of the game now.
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:mad: :furious :bhead it is serious business coombzy how very dare you. :old:
In my defense I have been led astray by bad company :old:
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A whole lot of people who suddenly don't care. I guess when the witch hunt ends they become well reasoned individuals.
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A whole lot of people who suddenly don't care. I guess when the witch hunt ends they become well reasoned individuals.
Or .... you've suddenly realized a whole lot of people don't care. Kinda rains on a witch hunt, I reckon.
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Or .... you've suddenly realized a whole lot of people don't care. Kinda rains on a witch hunt, I reckon.
Oh no there are two very long threads in which some of the same people are outraged.
At least caldera is still holding the torch.
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I reached the point where I have stopped worrying about what everyone else is doing and just logging on to have fun. I cannot change it or prevent it , I think its just a part of the game now.
same here.
People are so closeminded and need to just chill.
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Oh no there are two very long threads in which some of the same people are outraged.
At least caldera is still holding the torch.
Outraged .... guess it doesn't take a lot. What would you say if it's been suspected that some squads
vulch each other to garner perks? No shade accounts, whatsoever. Not seeing the 'moral' difference.
Alas, that's really all this is - a cry out for morals.
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Outraged .... guess it doesn't take a lot. What would you say if it's been suspected that some squads
vulch each other to garner perks? No shade accounts, whatsoever. Not seeing the 'moral' difference.
Alas, that's really all this is - a cry out for morals.
In the past we had to ask squad members to leave when it was discovered they were up to these kinds of shenanigans :old:
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In the past we had to ask squad members to leave when it was discovered they were up to these kinds of shenanigans :old:
I think every good squad would. Alas 'good' appears subjective across the board.
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It seems some people have ethics and some do not
I prefer to be in a society with ethics, RL & ingame.
AH always used to have a gentlemans code of conduct
It's a pity to see it slip away
<S> Jimmy
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AH always used to have a gentlemans code of conduct
Oh no .... the perceived 'gentleman's code of conduct' that was once 'a part of this community.' :D :salute
Ethics can't be practically coded.
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In the past we had to ask squad members to leave when it was discovered they were up to these kinds of shenanigans :old:
I told you I'm sorry!! :cry
it's all wurzuls fault :old:
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Oh no .... the perceived 'gentleman's code of conduct' that was once 'a part of this community.' :D :salute
Ethics can't be practically coded.
I like you sir no trolling :neener:
As a spankin new stick too the game might I humbly suggest this be stickied and the title changed to "Code of Conduct a Gentleman's Ethical Viewpoint"
I had no idea some of the mentioned tactics were "of bad morals and ethics" which is funny... not ha ha funny. Alot of the time is spent just trying to keep one eye on the guy who is about to shoot me down and the other eye on my gauges. Everything I did was because of exploiting my lack of skill becomes prevelent the minute I get low and slow or overshoot all in an effort to save my own arse and learn how to contend with guys who have forgotten more than I have learned.
Will I fly with my Squad Only... I wish but no its not the case. However when I'm alone and see the furball start instead of being part of the problem I want to conduct myself with a higher standard. So Sticky this thread because EVERY NEW STICK IN THE GAME needs to read this and learn from the vets! In my humble oppion no trolling or sarcasms all real talk.
I Sir <S> you if you can manage to stay the path.
:airplane:~<DeadStickMac
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AH time machine ..... it's nothing new:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,295733.0.html
:)
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AH time machine ..... it's nothing new:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,295733.0.html
:)
:salute
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AH time machine ..... it's nothing new:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,295733.0.html
:)
wow a post from wmlute havent seen that name in a while. anybody know what happened to him?
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wow a post from wmlute havent seen that name in a while. anybody know what happened to him?
Yep, check your PM.
ack-ack
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May I have have some of the spare time you are using to worry about this nonsense?
What he said.
If someone is that desperate, let HTC collect thier extra account money.
Maybe we need a perk points bank for all those folks who never use them so they can give them to these guys.
That's a long way of saying who cares? :)
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I can't control what HT allows for gameplay but any member of my squad caught doing this would be shown the door.
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This is one of those problems that isn't really a problem.
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This is one of those problems that isn't really a problem.
If you feel like 262's should be free, then you're right. No issue at all.
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I think it's a fairly simple solution. You should only be able to use the perks in the arena that you earn them in.
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If you feel like 262's should be free, then you're right. No issue at all.
Well that's a logic leap. The reason a lot of players in this thread aren't fretting is that the time and effort perk-farm dweebs waste on getting to fly a 262 is likely wasted on their first flight. Also, why is there a portion of the community suddenly up in arms over something they simply didn't realize a few gamey gamers were doing last month or even further back? Meh.
The AH sky is falling!
Are you going to cancel your subscription?
Not me. :D
The perk system is fine. Gamey gamers are their own worst enema. :aok
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I really wish that I had the spare time and energy to devote to being concerned about issues like this...
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Well that's a logic leap. The reason a lot of players in this thread aren't fretting is that the time and effort perk-farm dweebs waste on getting to fly a 262 is likely wasted on their first flight.
It's not a leap. 262's cost mucho perks. Perks are intended to be earned through legitimate combat in the arenas. Shade vulching is a very efficient way to earn perks. It may not be "free" in the truest sense of the word, but it's at least an end around of the intended system, no? Also, the notion of only two week noobz being the one's doing this is false. Higheye argued on 200 the other night that ArchieD was an excellent pilot. I have no idea if that's true or not, but a quick look at the stats for this tour show a 10-1 k/d for Arch and his jet. The 262 carried a 6-1 k/d last tour. By that measure, Archie is an above average 262 pilot. Higheye was right. :x
Also, why is there a portion of the community suddenly up in arms over something they simply didn't realize a few gamey gamers were doing last month or even further back? Meh.
The AH sky is falling!
Are you going to cancel your subscription?
Not me. :D
The perk system is fine. Gamey gamers are their own worst enema. :aok
Yessir... I'm positive this isn't the first shade vulching saga in recorded AH history. I'm also positive the sky isn't falling just because ol' Arch decided he likes him a jet. I suppose the best question for you is, how many jets and Tempests need to be zooming around with "efficiently" earned perks before you consider it a problem? I wanna get on board with that number so I know when to light your torch. :)
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Many games allow you to ( BUY PERKS), if they were for sale here, would that help stop the problem?
Rather than pay an extra $15 a month, just set up a way to buy x amount of perks for the same price but leave the ability to earn perks alone, then see if the shade accounts dry up!
This way you don't hurt game revenue but still have a tool to help stop shades, IE loss of perks if caught or something of the sort!
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It's not a leap. 262's cost mucho perks.
Exactly, they aren't free ... and nobody in this thread suggested they be.
Perks are intended to be earned through legitimate combat in the arenas.
Perks were designed to be accrued through kills .... period.
Shade vulching is a very efficient way to earn perks.
So is squad side swapping/vulching each other or buying your kid an account and teaching him how to dogfight the repetitive way or getting your fiance' an account so she can sit naked next to you while you vulch her as she soon figures out what being married to you is going to be like.
It may not be "free" in the truest sense of the word, but it's at least an end around of the intended system, no? Also, the notion of only two week noobz being the one's doing this is false. Higheye argued on 200 the other night that ArchieD was an excellent pilot. I have no idea if that's true or not, but a quick look at the stats for this tour show a 10-1 k/d for Arch and his jet. The 262 carried a 6-1 k/d last tour. By that measure, Archie is an above average 262 pilot. Higheye was right. :x
Presuming it's not more vulching in that, as well, to pad the perks,eh? Not worth a lost nights sleep.
Yessir... I'm positive this isn't the first shade vulching saga in recorded AH history. I'm also positive the sky isn't falling just because ol' Arch decided he likes him a jet. I suppose the best question for you is, how many jets and Tempests need to be zooming around with "efficiently" earned perks before you consider it a problem? I wanna get on board with that number so I know when to light your torch. :)
Gimme at least one or two a week. I got some catching up to do with squadies who've splashed them in a -1. :aok
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Cant help thinking that a percentage of those that say there is no issue with it exploit it themselves.
Giving out the equivalent of free 262s is not cool any way you slice it.
A technique I noticed in these forum's is to blast a point that is common sense and try to make the requestor look like an idiot for suggesting it. No people should be able to exploit the game in absurd ways. That is common sense and should be fixed.
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Cant help thinking that a percentage of those that say there is no issue with it exploit it themselves.
Giving out the equivalent of free 262s is not cool any way you slice it.
A technique I noticed in these forum's is to blast a point that is common sense and try to make the requestor look like an idiot for suggesting it. No people should be able to exploit the game in insure ways. That is common sense and should be fixed.
Don't think .... prove. That's probably why witch hunts end up out of control and looking stupid. :aok
Count my perks/262 sorties, mate. :D
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Typo. "Should not" be able to exploit game.
When is the mobile version of bbs comming out again?
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Cant help thinking that a percentage of those that say there is no issue with it exploit it themselves.
Giving out the equivalent of free 262s is not cool any way you slice it.
A technique I noticed in these forum's is to blast a point that is common sense and try to make the requestor look like an idiot for suggesting it. No people should be able to exploit the game in absurd ways. That is common sense and should be fixed.
Ha! If it doesn't bother you, you must be doing it.
You and triton should hang out.
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Well that's a logic leap. The reason a lot of players in this thread aren't fretting is that the time and effort perk-farm dweebs waste on getting to fly a 262 is likely wasted on their first flight. Also, why is there a portion of the community suddenly up in arms over something they simply didn't realize a few gamey gamers were doing last month or even further back? Meh.
The AH sky is falling!
Are you going to cancel your subscription?
Not me. :D
The perk system is fine. Gamey gamers are their own worst enema. :aok
Agreed sir.
:salute
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I think it's a fairly simple solution. You should only be able to use the perks in the arena that you earn them in.
This seems like the most common solution. Also seems likely the best to implement.
+1 sir :salute
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Exactly, they aren't free ... and nobody in this thread suggested they be.
Oh you didn't advocate specifically for free 262's, but the net result of shade vulching is perk gain on steroids. My use of free might be liberal, but I think you get the point. Nice dodge though. :)
Perks were designed to be accrued through kills .... period.
:huh
Kills period, huh? Cool. Make the case that the perk system was designed with the shade vulcher in mind. This I gotsta see.
So is squad side swapping/vulching each other or buying your kid an account and teaching him how to dogfight the repetitive way or getting your fiance' an account so she can sit naked next to you while you vulch her as she soon figures out what being married to you is going to be like.
:rofl
Because this thread and many others included righteous indignation about little kids learning the game and naked significant others. Do you know what a strawman is? :P
Presuming it's not more vulching in that, as well, to pad the perks,eh? Not worth a lost nights sleep.
Don't confuse my fussing on an online forum for something that makes me lose sleep or kick my dog. :)
Gimme at least one or two a week. I got some catching up to do with squadies who've splashed them in a -1. :aok
I await your reply sir! :salute
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Oh you didn't advocate specifically for free 262's, but the net result of shade vulching is perk gain on steroids. My use of free might be liberal, but I think you get the point. Nice dodge though. :)
:huh
Kills period, huh? Cool. Make the case that the perk system was designed with the shade vulcher in mind. This I gotsta see.
:rofl
Because this thread and many others included righteous indignation about little kids learning the game and naked significant others. Do you know what a strawman is? :P
Don't confuse my fussing on an online forum for something that makes me lose sleep or kick my dog. :)
I await your reply sir! :salute
Huh. Seems you didn't understand the last one. :aok
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Huh. Seems you didn't understand the last one. :aok
Given the direction you tried to take this conversation I'm not surprised. :)
Naked fiance.. :rofl
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Given the direction you tried to take this conversation I'm not surprised. :)
Naked fiance.. :rofl
No way to know, is there? Get it? No? What a lousy crusade you picked to embrace. :aok
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Ha! If it doesn't bother you, you must be doing it.
You and triton should hang out.
:huh
Which bud of yours shade vulches again?
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:huh
Which bud of yours shade vulches again?
Pick someone. Apparently that's all you require. :aok
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No way to know, is there? Get it? No? What a lousy crusade you picked to embrace. :aok
I do appreciate your use of :aok. It gives the conversation a slightly more civil tone. :aok
Teach that to sukov. :aok
But to the point, you never explained how the perk system is based on kills... period. I'd honestly like to understand how the system was designed to include people shooting down defenseless drones.
Don't worry. I'll wait. :)
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I do appreciate your use of :aok. It gives the conversation a slightly more civil tone. :aok
Teach that to sukov. :aok
But to the point, you never explained how the perk system is based on kills... period. I'd honestly like to understand how the system was designed to include people shooting down defenseless drones.
Don't worry. I'll wait. :)
Do you not know how to earn perks at all? Fly the early war hanger queens. :D
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Pick someone. Apparently that's all you require. :aok
I picked him to ask a question to. That count?
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I am about to vultch a cheesesteak with sauce and onions!!! :aok
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Do you not know how to earn perks at all? Fly the early war hanger queens. :D
Yes! :aok
Just add in a low ENY uber ride of your own creation and control for you to shoot down using said hangar queen turd.
Now... walk with me here... tell me how the above scenario is fits into the intended use of the perk point system. You can do it! :aok
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Shade accounts and gay marriage are similar issues in that...
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002660831/3059429492_71156_284175113910_4256058_n_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg)
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Skuzzy plz lock this thread it went sideways a few pages ago. TY sir.
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Shade accounts and gay marriage are similar issues in that...
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002660831/3059429492_71156_284175113910_4256058_n_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg)
:rofl
+1
I still cant figure out it :)
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if you think about it these idiots are paying for their perks.
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if you think about it these idiots are paying for their perks.
An extra $15, yes. But in return they get:
You can easily spot the perk farming by looking at the planes. In all arenas he took a ENY 40 plane and killed hundreds of ENY 5 planes, despite that being much more noticeable than the other way around. Gives massive perk points (I estimate Archie's perk gain at about 1000 perks in extremely short time), while having no special impact on score.
Keep in mind the average player is effectively earning in the range of 1-5 perks per hour of flight time. I'm currently running a perk survey and so far the average player has earned ~36 fighter perks in just over two months. I, certainly being alot above the average and spending immense amount of time playing this game, earned just over 1000. ArchieD earned more than 4K in a fraction of that time.
4k of perks. All without a single bullet being fired back at you.
If you're taking this game super seriously, shade vulching is a smokin' deal.
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if you need that many perks every month you suck.
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if you need that many perks every month you suck.
That's a distinct possibility, yes.
But in the case of ArchD, he carries an above average k/d in the deuce. So maybe he doesn't suck, he just wants to be able to fling his jet into situations he otherwise wouldn't if his perks were legit.
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lol who cares let him. like avoiding a 262 is so fricken hard. He gets behind you all you have to do is turn and boom 262 is no longer behind you. Some of you guys seriously need to get life.
Do I agree with it (shade killing) no but is it going to directly affect me in game or in real life NO.
I think with the decline in #s the extra cash is good for HTC
<3 DMGOD
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Blah! This was not for everyone too come in here and make a mess!
This was for discussion of possable solutions for that type of behavior.
5 pages of crap that was not on topic gents.
I think only 4 or 5 posts were actually on topic and very good suggestions as well.
Scuzzy plz lock this thread turned sideways.
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Blah! This was not for everyone too come in here and make a mess!
This was for discussion of possable solutions for that type of behavior.
5 pages of crap that was not on topic gents.
I think only 4 or 5 posts were actually on topic and very good suggestions as well.
Scuzzy plz lock this thread turned sideways.
Your intentions were honorable. FWIW, I think Pand's suggestion of perks earned staying in the arena they were earned in is the easiest and least intrusive fix.
Time will tell whether this is much ado about nothing or the beginning of the great shade vulching scourge. But who cares, right? Only noobs shade vulch and an Me-262 isn't like, the most powerful plane in the game or anything. Sheesh. Loosers.
:angel:
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Blah! This was not for everyone too come in here and make a mess!
This was for discussion of possable solutions for that type of behavior.
5 pages of crap that was not on topic gents.
I think only 4 or 5 posts were actually on topic and very good suggestions as well.
Scuzzy plz lock this thread turned sideways.
Awww, man. Are you upset that everyone isn't responding/participating in the manner you intended? Go fig.
Your intentions were honorable. FWIW, I think Pand's suggestion of perks earned staying in the arena they were earned in is the easiest and least intrusive fix.
Time will tell whether this is much ado about nothing or the beginning of the great shade vulching scourge. But who cares, right? Only noobs shade vulch and an Me-262 isn't like, the most powerful plane in the game or anything. Sheesh. Loosers.
:rofl Yeah, everyone, especially HiTech, should stop what they're doing this very second and take this seriously. :aok :aok :aok
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Boo Arlo. You need to answer my question first sir. :aok
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Awww, man. Are you upset that everyone isn't responding/participating in the manner you intended? Go fig.
:rofl Yeah, everyone, especially HiTech, should stop what they're doing this very second and take this seriously. :aok :aok :aok
Not at all my intentions sir. But spin it anyway you would like as you see fit sir. :salute
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What I find to be funny is from reading the posts by you, we feel the same way about the topic. The only difference is I'm not going into a post thread started by you and making a clever mess.
But some of it was funny now that I know your a professional troll :salute
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Boo Arlo. You need to answer my question first sir. :aok
First off, I really don't need to do anything of the sort .... however ....
Gimme at least one or two a week. I got some catching up to do with squadies who've splashed them in a -1. :aok
What about the above answer didn't register? :D
Not at all my intentions sir. But spin it anyway you would like as you see fit sir.
Feel free to clarify and 'un-spin your intention.' :aok
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What I find to be funny is from reading the posts by you, we feel the same way about the topic. The only difference is I'm not going into a post thread started by you and making a clever mess.
But some of it was funny now that I know your a professional troll :salute
I'm thinking we don't feel the same at all. This thread was a mess by design, take responsibility. :ahand
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I think Arlo and my wife grew up together. :D
This question, bro.
Yes! :aok
Just add in a low ENY uber ride of your own creation and control for you to shoot down using said hangar queen turd.
Now... walk with me here... tell me how the above scenario is fits into the intended use of the perk point system. You can do it! :aok
:aok :aok
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(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4513818388398386&pid=15.1)
EW and MW main arenas have been a part of the game for awhile now. I wouldn't be surprised if shade accounts have existed even longer.
Why is it suddenly a crisis? I got no respect for those who feel the need to do this anymore than you. But, geez, I guess I just don't care
as much and it's not hurting my fun one bit. :cool:
Considering this was your first post. Note, not on topic but an agreement of how we feel. KINDA :salute
The intentions of this thread was along the lines of my second post... Which Delirium had a post in here that was "on topic" as did Kvuo, Caldera, and Pand. Which is clearly stated in the title of this thread...
How we could handle Shade Accounts. As players what can we do in order to discourage this type of behavior?
Other than those posts everything else in this thread should not even have been in here.... However a few clever individual's can clearly make a mess of things.
Then instead of you not posting in this thread you do. Is anything you said constructive to my intentions? Or anything posted on topic as a clearly defined outline against any of the suggestions made by the few people whom did actually have input that was on topic and clearly stated?
And along with you came others who just wanted to voice their option about how much they do not care.
But no one is coming up with a solution all I hear is a bunch of people that all seem to swing one way or the other with how the feel about shade accounts. Which ever way it swings is not the topic. How long in the game this has been done is not the topic. Who is doing it is not the topic. Why they do it is not the topic.
Does that clarify a few things?
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I got no respect for those who feel the need to do this anymore than you. But, geez, I guess I just don't care
as much and it's not hurting my fun one bit. :cool:
I have no respect for those as well.
I care just enough to be part of a solution and not add to the problem & THIS is where we differ sir.
(I still think your funny and even cute for a troll). :devil
What is this "Fun" you speak of that can be hurt?
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Blah! This was not for everyone too come in here and make a mess!
This was for discussion of possable solutions for that type of behavior.
5 pages of crap that was not on topic gents.
I think only 4 or 5 posts were actually on topic and very good suggestions as well.
Scuzzy plz lock this thread turned sideways.
Trolls will always be trolls. Do not post something and expect it not to be messed with online. People with nothing better to do than mess with others will always show up since they have nothing else in their lives to make themselves feel good. The quality of people goes down drastically when they become anonymous. Shame really. Learn to ignore them, every time you acknowledge them they win. It is really funny how frustrated they can become after 10 pages of being ignored and just how stupid they make themselves appear in the context of the discussion. You need to speak around or over them like the kiddie table where they originated from. Now just reclaim your topic and ignore them. If no one else adds to the discussion it has run the limit of its interest for now. :salute
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I have no respect for those as well.
I care just enough to be part of a solution and not add to the problem & THIS is where we differ sir.
(I still think your funny and even cute for a troll). :devil
What is this "Fun" you speak of that can be hurt?
Geez, three posts await my attention. You feel I'm 'adding to the problem?' Meh. I'm feeling the 'problem'
is blown out of proportion. If feelings are getting hurt over such and the best you can muster is a
troll whine .... then I'm not seeing me being the problem with your thread. ;)
Fun .... is what most of us here experience playing Aces High. Mine's not being hurt. Apparently that's
not the case for everyone. But then, some just plain look for a reason to whine in public. :lol
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Now... walk with me here... tell me how the above scenario is fits into the intended use of the perk point system. You can do it! Thumbs UP!
Your perceived intended use, you mean. Are you certain HT's intended purpose was not just to prevent
the arena being populated with nothing but 262s and B-29s? If so, mission accomplished.
I'm also fair certain that if it was a major concern about how players decide to garner their perks
then it would have been addressed in the latest patch which post dates many a 'sky is falling'
thread like this.
May not be an answer you like. I can live with it and will even extend the benefit of the doubt your way. :aok
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Cant help thinking that a percentage of those that say there is no issue with it exploit it themselves.
Giving out the equivalent of free 262s is not cool any way you slice it.
A technique I noticed in these forum's is to blast a point that is common sense and try to make the requestor look like an idiot for suggesting it. No people should be able to exploit the game in absurd ways. That is common sense and should be fixed.
Generally this happens cause most of us in the past have gotten caught up in thinking that AH is more than just a game. Then we learn that it is just a game and just not worth getting too worked up over. Tough to watch folks make the same silly mistake we did in the past.
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:huh
Which bud of yours shade vulches again?
None that I know of at the moment.
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Generally this happens cause most of us in the past have gotten caught up in thinking that AH is more than just a game. Then we learn that it is just a game and just not worth getting too worked up over. Tough to watch folks make the same silly mistake we did in the past.
Well said.
Is it just shade accounts people are having issue with? What if the person they are vulching isn't a shade but a volunteer? Would that still be cheating? Lets say I go into the arena and type on chan. 200 "Hey I'm going to be upping b17s from field XX for the next hour or so, promise I won't shoot back. Free kills. Come get some!" Is that considered cheating? Heck I could do it in an m3 and even bring supplies out for them.
What about GV spawn camping? How many times have we seen one guy die 50 times in a row in 5 minutes in a tank because he just keeps respawning at a camped spawn point? We see players land ridiculous numbers of kills in GVs all the time because they've learned how to capitalize on the games crappy gv spawn system. Is landing 30 kills from spawn camping that far removed from shade vulching?
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Oh and Guppy35.. IT'S NOT A GAME IT'S A SIM!!!
:lol
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Oh and Guppy35.. IT'S NOT A GAME IT'S A SIM!!!
:lol
wrong!!! It's
life! :rock
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wrong!!! It's
life! :rock
Wrong game.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wOAwrufBIbc/TZTvJWr7bXI/AAAAAAAAABY/JppqmP7AFgU/s1600/Game-of-Life.jpg)
Now with less perk-farming.
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Wrong game.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wOAwrufBIbc/TZTvJWr7bXI/AAAAAAAAABY/JppqmP7AFgU/s1600/Game-of-Life.jpg)
Now with less perk-farming.
I know people who farm the hell out of that game :bhead
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I know people who farm the hell out of that game :bhead
But .... does it ruin the fun?
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Your perceived intended use, you mean. Are you certain HT's intended purpose was not just to prevent
the arena being populated with nothing but 262s and B-29s? If so, mission accomplished.
I'm also fair certain that if it was a major concern about how players decide to garner their perks
then it would have been addressed in the latest patch which post dates many a 'sky is falling'
thread like this.
May not be an answer you like. I can live with it and will even extend the benefit of the doubt your way. :aok
Meh. Your percieved intent that perks are about kills... period is just silly. There's nothing you can point to that says HTC intended for people to create alternate accounts for the sole purpose of shooting them down to gain perk points. At least my perceived intent has some basis in the common way in which the game is played. As for what HTC does or doesn't do... well, as I said in God knows which thread about this same subject... the historical course of action was to wipe perks and scores. If that was the case... history says you're just being obtuse and shade vulching is lame enough to discourage. :aok
I think we can put this topic to bed. I honestly feel like those of you attacking the anti-shade position are on some other planet. As much as I enjoy arguing when I know damn well I'm right, I don't think further discussion serves any purpose.
Sukov... come on in here and get the last word bro.
:bolt:
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But .... does it ruin the fun?
No. I play the same way as in AH. Harder and smarter.
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Geez, three posts await my attention. You feel I'm 'adding to the problem?' Meh. I'm feeling the 'problem'
is blown out of proportion. If feelings are getting hurt over such and the best you can muster is a
troll whine .... then I'm not seeing me being the problem with your thread. ;)
Fun .... is what most of us here experience playing Aces High. Mine's not being hurt. Apparently that's
not the case for everyone. But then, some just plain look for a reason to whine in public. :lol
You sir make me smile. No I'm not suggesting you are a problem or adding to the problem. I am suggesting you have sunk my battleship :lol
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Meh. Your percieved intent that perks are about kills... period is just silly. There's nothing you can point to that says HTC intended for people to create alternate accounts for the sole purpose of shooting them down to gain perk points. At least my perceived intent has some basis in the common way in which the game is played. As for what HTC does or doesn't do... well, as I said in God knows which thread about this same subject... the historical course of action was to wipe perks and scores. If that was the case... history says you're just being obtuse and shade vulching is lame enough to discourage. :aok
I think we can put this topic to bed. I honestly feel like those of you attacking the anti-shade position are on some other planet. As much as I enjoy arguing when I know damn well I'm right, I don't think further discussion serves any purpose.
Sukov... come on in here and get the last word bro.
:bolt:
Hey I was just answering a question.
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I will say this Arlo.... At least you made me lol sir. :salute
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AH:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/SimFarm_Coverart.png/250px-SimFarm_Coverart.png)
See? They even have planes going in for the vulch.
The former AH's country cousin
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I wonder how many farm trucks it takes to earn a 262. :airplane:
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I wonder how many farm trucks it takes to earn a 262. :airplane:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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There's nothing you can point to that says HTC intended for people to create alternate accounts for the sole purpose of shooting them down to gain perk points.
Back to reality. The perk system is, plainly and simply, a control factor. Players must garner perks in order to fly the higher end
rides. This prevents the LWMA arena from becoming the 'ten thousand dweebs in 262s arena.' There's nothing either of us can
point to where HTC considers whatever method a player uses to 'earn' perks (short of an outright game hack) a TOS violation
or concern. Nor is the behavior you suspect something HTC can confirm. Perhaps if a majority cried out in pain and frustration
then HTC would take this as seriously as you and a few others do. Good luck with that. Apparently the concern doesn't run
that deep ... or wide ... yet. While separating player perks in each of the mains may be possible, has anyone stopped to
consider if any of the other arenas (outside the mains) earn perks at all ... or why? :D
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if HTC is going to allow vulching a second account in a vacant arena for perk points that can be used in the populated arena, they should just sell perk points directly. save everyone time.
the only question is the price of perks.
I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to pay for a second account, and then charge someone else to vulch it for perks..
I could swear HTC said they didn't want a "secondary economy"
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I could swear HTC said they didn't want a "secondary economy"
Nor are they demanding one. This suspicion involves desperate players.
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I still believe in throwing scorn and condemnation on em
Who wants to eat pie with no filling
School boy error
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I still believe in throwing scorn and condemnation on em
Who wants to eat pie with no filling
School boy error
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All you guys talking about is perk farming... padding scores/rank..... What about achievements? getting achievements either using shade accounts, or getting your squaddie to help you get the achivements... i haven't seen anyone up at SDKfz 251 for quite a while now... last kill for the GV achievement... kinda like a thorn in the side dun you think...if time was esstential in getting that achievement, how long do i need to wait to get that achievement? i live in ASIA... by the time i get back from work to get on aces, usually there isn't anyone on.. maybe 100 players if i'm lucky.. weekends are dedicated to my GF( i do intend to marry her), do couplely stuff.. so i dun get much time on aces as much as i would like to.. so achievements are kinda like good for me.. at least i have something to look forward to instead of trying to get kills in a sparsely populated arena..well.. you can bring out the torches and pitchforks for all i care... i got someone to help me get my achievements...FYI... i didn't earn no perkies... cos i never landed them.. The only problem i had was because my rank went up due to those kills.. and that kinda set the torches and pitchforks going... i like stars to my name... cos thats all i want and can get from the game at the moment....So if you think i did wrong... please get skuzzy to take my perks away... BTW... i jsut returned to the game so i have any about 300 plus fighter perkies... 200 plus bomber perkies and 300 plus gv perkies... so take them away if you think that will make you feel better... but i can tell you...nothing is solved.. to me its just back to square one... do you really think that will actually help stop? you guys have absolutely no idea how many of these people are out there.. actually doing it for perkies in MW or EW.
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If I thought it mattered Id have 3 accounts and do alot of those things. Why not? Paying 45 bucks a month should entitle you the right to.
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All you guys talking about is perk farming... padding scores/rank..... What about achievements? getting achievements either using shade accounts, or getting your squaddie to help you get the achivements... i haven't seen anyone up at SDKfz 251 for quite a while now... last kill for the GV achievement... kinda like a thorn in the side dun you think...if time was esstential in getting that achievement, how long do i need to wait to get that achievement? i live in ASIA... by the time i get back from work to get on aces, usually there isn't anyone on.. maybe 100 players if i'm lucky.. weekends are dedicated to my GF( i do intend to marry her), do couplely stuff.. so i dun get much time on aces as much as i would like to.. so achievements are kinda like good for me.. at least i have something to look forward to instead of trying to get kills in a sparsely populated arena..well.. you can bring out the torches and pitchforks for all i care... i got someone to help me get my achievements...FYI... i didn't earn no perkies... cos i never landed them.. The only problem i had was because my rank went up due to those kills.. and that kinda set the torches and pitchforks going... i like stars to my name... cos thats all i want and can get from the game at the moment....So if you think i did wrong... please get skuzzy to take my perks away... BTW... i jsut returned to the game so i have any about 300 plus fighter perkies... 200 plus bomber perkies and 300 plus gv perkies... so take them away if you think that will make you feel better... but i can tell you...nothing is solved.. to me its just back to square one... do you really think that will actually help stop? you guys have absolutely no idea how many of these people are out there.. actually doing it for perkies in MW or EW.
Here, you Achieved this...
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All you guys talking about is perk farming... padding scores/rank..... What about achievements? getting achievements either using shade accounts, or getting your squaddie to help you get the achivements... i haven't seen anyone up at SDKfz 251 for quite a while now... last kill for the GV achievement... kinda like a thorn in the side dun you think...if time was esstential in getting that achievement, how long do i need to wait to get that achievement? i live in ASIA... by the time i get back from work to get on aces, usually there isn't anyone on...blah blah blah.
Sad story, here's mine I travel for work, sometimes I get to play sometimes I don't. It all depends on the hotels net connection. I too don't get to play on weekend due to spending time on weekends with my girl friend. But here's they thing, achievements aren't always meant to be accomplished in one hour of play. And yes, some players will use the SDK to make thier final achievements.
Late War Tour 160
Kills by Coprhead in a
SdKfz 251 by model type
Model Type Kills Percent
Panzer IV H 1 100.000
1 Kills
Late War Tour 160
Kills by Coprhead in a
SdKfz 251 by player name
Player Name Killed Percent
Gavilan 1 100.000
1 Kills
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It seems some people have ethics and some do not
I prefer to be in a society with ethics, RL & ingame.
AH always used to have a gentlemans code of conduct
It's a pity to see it slip away
<S> Jimmy
How long have you played AH?
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:mad: :furious :bhead it is serious business coombzy how very dare you. :old:
You say that as if you are mocking him. :D
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Oh no .... the perceived 'gentleman's code of conduct' that was once 'a part of this community.' :D :salute
Ethics can't be practically coded.
WHO are you? And why haven't I noticed this voice of sanity before the last couple weeks?
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You say that as if you are mocking him. :D
he is always making fun of me I am thinking of filing a complaint with HTC for cyber-bullying and starting a public outcry to get him thrown out of his squad as per this thread http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,348894.0.html :old:
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he is always making fun of me I am thinking of filing a complaint with HTC for cyber-bullying and starting a public outcry to get him thrown out of his squad as per this thread http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,348894.0.html :old:
Didn't you guys already demote him?
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slight typo caused some confusion there, we actually emoted him
:D :aok :lol :O :P :rock :x :salute :neener:
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WHO are you? And why haven't I noticed this voice of sanity before the last couple weeks?
I am ... the very model of a modern major general .....
I'm the proverbial long-term sporadic AH player who, every time he comes back,
sees the same arguments, claims, counter-claims made by players (old and new).
But ... more importantly ... I see the changes made to the game and I suppose
it makes more of a positive impression on me than it would have were I not so
sporadic.
I've been privileged to be part of a great squad and they welcome me back every
time. I recognize players in various squads and smile when I do. Sometimes a few
of them recognize me back. Sometimes the names have been changed to protect
the guilty, innocent, forgetful, whateveh.
AH is kinda like family. Just like AirWarrior was. :salute :cheers: :)
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Yes! :aok
Just add in a low ENY uber ride of your own creation and control for you to shoot down using said hangar queen turd.
Now... walk with me here... tell me how the above scenario is fits into the intended use of the perk point system. You can do it! :aok
If I'm following your accusation here correctly, I don't think he suggested that the perk system was built to accommodate perk farming shades, he suggested that Hitech is smart enough to have suspected it would happen when he came up with it. Hence, if he/they were concerned enough about it happening, they would probably have taken a different approach.
It's lame, but it's their time. Personally, I couldn't stand the boredom.
I'm the proverbial long-term sporadic AH player who, every time he comes back,
sees the same arguments, claims, counter-claims made by players (old and new).
AH is kinda like family. Just like AirWarrior was. :salute :cheers: :)
THATS what I been trying to tell everybody. :salute
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how about one account per household.......im pretty sure you can tell if there is more than one computer at that location by the internet connection location number.............they would have to have multiple locations to have multple accounts..............this would not solve the problem, but i would suspect it would limit it.....and if they were caught, they should be banned from that location....no matter if they try for a new account or name change. i have seen many players be accused on here...loose their account,and then come back under a new name. that would only be possible if that had a new location as well. again...it would not solve the problem, but may reduce it........................... ...and as for other ideas from the first page....what about those fellows that cheat and use other means of communication...like teamspeak or other outside the game coms.........who knows what they are saying or planning on there......maybe if reported to the GUBMINT, and if they were a US citizens, the GUBMINT can use a drone and take care of the problem.....like they recently did to 4 u.s. citizens.........that they are willing to admit to.lol :O
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How long have you played AH?
6 or 7 years
long before the new stats and score system got put in place
the shade killers used to have to be caught in the act
then they where shamed and ridiculed and decent squads booted them...
now it seems people don't care so much if they are caught at it......
shame I say
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6 or 7 years
long before the new stats and score system got put in place
the shade killers used to have to be caught in the act
then they where shamed and ridiculed and decent squads booted them...
now it seems people don't care so much if they are caught at it......
shame I say
I can't say with absolute certainty that this was going on in the earliest days of AH, but I don't believe there was ever a time when some questionable behavior or other didn't occur. I remember rumors of cheating and score manipulation all the way back to AW. There was no innocent generation in this game. The fictitious honor code made up by a few on these boards is a joke. The Hoing, hoarding, kill stealing, and everything else being complained about today has always been around.
It may have been a little less prevalent, most likely due to population growth, and it should be discouraged.
But seriously, if someone can't get a 262 any other way and Htc makes an extra 15 bucks here and there. It's no skin off your nose unless your SA fails you and he sneaks up on you in his 262.
The ONLY problem I see with it, is that if someone is doing this in another arena, they are not just wasting their own time with this silly gimmick, they are depriving the rest of the population of victims. It may be "their 15 bucks" but I pay my 15 for a target rich environment as I expect most others also want for their money.
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how about one account per household.......im pretty sure you can tell if there is more than one computer at that location by the internet connection location number.............t
So, if you had a son (or daughter) who wanted an account ... or, your significant other wanted their own ... your father, if you live with him or both parents?
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the shade killers used to have to be caught in the act
then they where shamed and ridiculed and decent squads booted them...
Used to? :noid
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I am ... the very model of a modern major general .....
I'm the proverbial long-term sporadic AH player who, every time he comes back,
sees the same arguments, claims, counter-claims made by players (old and new).
But ... more importantly ... I see the changes made to the game and I suppose
it makes more of a positive impression on me than it would have were I not so
sporadic.
I've been privileged to be part of a great squad and they welcome me back every
time. I recognize players in various squads and smile when I do. Sometimes a few
of them recognize me back. Sometimes the names have been changed to protect
the guilty, innocent, forgetful, whateveh.
AH is kinda like family. Just like AirWarrior was. :salute :cheers: :)
Most enjoyable reply to read out of this whole mess of a thread!
I also liked Guppy's reply too....
if I see ya ingame, Arlo, I'll say "hi", regardless if I'm on my main account, or playing under one of my others <grin>
Cheers
TC
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if I see ya ingame, Arlo, I'll say "hi", regardless if I'm on my main account, or playing under one of my others <grin>
:lol Hiyas TC! :)