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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Butcher on May 11, 2013, 02:04:56 PM
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Early A20g's had 4x 20mm cannons in the nose - most were given to russia who downplayed their role, but they were extensively used for ground attack. There's plenty of proof it served in combat, down the road it would be a nice addition.
(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/Misconduc/a20.jpg)
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The four 20mm would be nice if they could be done as a perk option. Done as just a gun option they would cause the extinction of the much more common .50 cal armed A-20Gs in the game, and that would be a shame.
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The four 20mm would be nice if they could be done as a perk option. Done as just a gun option they would cause the extinction of the much more common .50 cal armed A-20Gs in the game, and that would be a shame.
Well yeah it would be a perk option, however since its an attack plane it uses fighter perks so I'm all for perking it, especially since we know what cobia38 would do if it was added in game - Deathstar Part 2.
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Then can we get the Boston with the huge spot light :pray
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Well yeah it would be a perk option, however since its an attack plane it uses fighter perks so I'm all for perking it, especially since we know what cobia38 would do if it was added in game - Deathstar Part 2.
Bomber perks actually. It is a bomber. The attack option is just for scoring purposes. For perk purposes it is a bomber.
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+1
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Early A20g's had 4x 20mm cannons in the nose - most were given to russia who downplayed their role, but they were extensively used for ground attack. There's plenty of proof it served in combat, down the road it would be a nice addition.
(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/Misconduc/a20.jpg)
The early A-20G blocks that had the 20mm cannons also had the flexible top turret instead of the powered turret we have on our later A-20G blocks.
ack-ack
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The four 20mm would be nice if they could be done as a perk option. Done as just a gun option they would cause the extinction of the much more common .50 cal armed A-20Gs in the game, and that would be a shame.
la7 with 3 guns where in short supply too...
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-1 x -1
I'm afraid of 20mm version Cobia38! :uhoh
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-1 x -1
I'm afraid of 20mm version Cobia38! :uhoh
You do realize that -1 x -1 = 1, right?
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The early A-20G blocks that had the 20mm cannons also had the flexible top turret instead of the powered turret we have on our later A-20G blocks.
ack-ack
The question is; does the difference between the flex turret and the power turret, or even between the plane's themselves, warrant the A-20 4 x 20mm to be modeled by itself? Or are the similarities too close to have this as an option? Close as in closer to each other than F4F-3/4 we have.
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la7 with 3 guns where in short supply too...
I am on record as saying that package ought to be perked.
Also, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Only if they remove F3 view for the A20, then definitely +1, otherwise ...no thanks
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Only if they remove F3 view for the A20, then definitely +1, otherwise ...no thanks
F3 mode would have to be removed and it perked - otherwise the hordetards would simply overwhelm a base with half a dozen a20s since it can do everything.
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F3 mode would have to be removed and it perked - otherwise the hordetards would simply overwhelm a base with half a dozen a20s since it can do everything.
then hell ya :aok +1
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Can I have F4 view then?
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1-3_zps0478e587.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1_zps488cd707.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-X-VwPouBfuM/UVT68DO1cgI/AAAAAAAAaio/d09qBdAvicM/s1600/A-20G-1-DO+Havoc+42-53775.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1-2_zps3da20bc9.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Drawing_zpsc52e003e.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Drawing1_zps15229a1d.jpg)
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Can I have F4 view then?
?? o.O
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?? o.O
Similar to F3 but the veiw is always horizontal
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Chase camera is what he means.
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1-4_zps04216d81.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1russianline_zpsfd528c96.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1AttackNose_zpsc4e24ba9.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1AttackNose1_zps7eb17d19.jpg)
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Stats_zps46b3fcfd.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Stats2_zps80695284.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Stats1_zps2e34a12b.jpg)
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Drawing2_zpse5263b50.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Drawing3_zps3c7e65d3.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Drawing4_zpsc3b537ff.jpg)
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1PilotCompartment_zps2040251c.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1vebtralgun_zpsa5af589d.jpg)
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How many rounds per 20mm cannon? It looks like those are 60 round drums.
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Similar to F3 but the veiw is always horizontal
No, there's no reason an A20 should have F3 view, reserve those for heavy bombers/bomber formations that you generally can't/don't use as fighter aircraft.
When you look at it the A20 has better guns than most fighters, far better armor (other than the cockpit), better turn radius, better speed than some EW/MW aircraft, terrific bomb load, and plenty of fuel...if it's given 4 20mm's then I think all external views should be removed (I think they should be either way, but that's another subject).
I mean...if I wanted to get sniped by some quad cannon beast I'd go to Tempest/Chog lake, I mean the DA.. Please... have mercy HT... Let us have a save haven from that in the MA :uhoh :bolt:
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How many rounds per 20mm cannon? It looks like those are 60 round drums.
A good shot of the magazines A p-70 though with the 4x20mm under the plane
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-p70Cannons_zpse1b3d763.jpg)
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WAAAAAA!
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Art_zpsfec4be9c.jpg)
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A good shot of the magazines A p-70 though with the 4x20mm under the plane
The P-70 night fighter version was considered to be less than satisfactory as night fighter.
ack-ack
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Anyone notice in Megalodon's drawing, the offset floor mounted N-2 gunsight and the offset reflector glass mounted to the dashboard top? Same installation as in our P40-C. I suppose shooting 20mm at night one needed an illuminated aiming ring. I've seen a Russian cockpit drawing where they mounted the reflector sight to the left side through a hole in the dash board deck.
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This is rather interesting .... somewhat 'wowish' here. :)
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3rd BG june 44
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Rockets3rdBG_zps2fe2cd40.jpg)
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Meg, the caption on the top right of the photo you've just posted. Any chance of getting a fuller look at it? Or the name of the book?
Tks
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Chase camera is what he means.
Damned, I though F4 was looking straight back for the butler :lol
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Meg, the caption on the top right of the photo you've just posted. Any chance of getting a fuller look at it? Or the name of the book?
Tks
Thats not the caption it's part of the book.
Here is the caption
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Rockets3rdBGCaption_zps916283ce.jpg)
The Book is: A20 Boston at War by William Hess very good book goes over the A20C A20G and the A26B
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Tks Meg
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Tks Meg
Np Ft,
Could you imagine ... 240 20mm plus 2x50's, 12 bazookas, 2000lbs of bombs and 2x50's in the rear...Thats a nice attack package.
Edit: Not to mention the bomb bay gas tanks...... 1500 gal of gas
There are a few nice shots of RAAF A20G's in the book.
No wonder the thing was named Havoc
If HT and Pyro decide to update the A20-G/20 Havoc and the A20C? Boston... I hope they include this model ..A20-G/1 Havoc
:salute
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Rockets1_zpsbe5fa28b.jpg)
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Np Ft,
Could you imagine ... 240 20mm plus 2x50's, 12 bazookas, 2000lbs of bombs and 2x50's in the rear...Thats a nice attack package.
I would be surprised if those drums can hold 240 20mm rounds. I'd be moderately surprised if they can hold 120. Also, with the 12 bazookas on that installation the max speed will take a big hit.
The A20 is an attack plane, not a bomber. Come on - rockets, no level bomb sight and more fixed forward firepower than most fighters cannot qualify as a bomber. It should lose the F3 view and roll out of the fighters hangar.
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I would be surprised if those drums can hold 240 20mm rounds. I'd be moderately surprised if they can hold 120. Also, with the 12 bazookas on that installation the max speed will take a big hit.
The A20 is an attack plane, not a bomber. Come on - rockets, no level bomb sight and more fixed forward firepower than most fighters cannot qualify as a bomber. It should lose the F3 view and roll out of the fighters hangar.
Whats 4x60?
You really need alot of speed attacking the ground.
edit: I wouldnt mind if the f3 was gone from the whole game ;)
I think it should be an attack plane, just an attack bomber rolling from the buff hanger, Its not a fighter.
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1RocketsDrawing_zps7844c298.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Rockets2_zps65c3678b.jpg)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/a20-g1Rockets3_zpsa72a4729.jpg)
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Whats 4x60?
OK, I thought you meant per gun.