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Title: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: shoresroad on May 16, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
Well, about 2 hours into this map and the Knights have no usable V bases, so our GV'ers are pretty much out of the game, and almost no place to up a plane safely.  These little maps suck.

Will try to find something to do on this map but will probably log off for the night.  Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Butcher on May 16, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
I logged in, seen the horde and logged out.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: gyrene81 on May 16, 2013, 11:42:32 PM
Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.
see yuh, don't let the door hit ya...
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: BluBerry on May 16, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
see yuh, don't let the door hit ya...

O'Club finally let you out Gyrene?  :neener:
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: shoresroad on May 16, 2013, 11:46:53 PM
Just took a look and now the Rooks and Bish aren't even fighting each other - both crushing the Knights.  It will get even more fun when we're down to just 3 bases...great gaming experience.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Zacherof on May 16, 2013, 11:48:12 PM
Just took a look and now the Rooks and Bish aren't even fighting each other - both crushing the Knights.  It will get even more fun when we're down to just 3 bases...great gaming experience.


Not true! I'm a faithful bish and I'll kill lots of rooks. Wiat I'm knight :bhead
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: BluBerry on May 16, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
Well, about 2 hours into this map and the Knights have no usable V bases, so our GV'ers are pretty much out of the game, and almost no place to up a plane safely.  These little maps suck.

Will try to find something to do on this map but will probably log off for the night.  Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.


I agree however, it is not a very fun map. Is there a way to make the E6B map better through personal creation outside of game? or would it need to be sent to HTC for approval and then added to game? I am not talking about the maps of towns and bases.. I am only referring to the main map or "world" map. I would willingly put in my own time to create better looking and more user friendly e6b world maps if other people saw a need as well.  :salute
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: SIK1 on May 16, 2013, 11:51:08 PM
You could always switch countries. Oh no wait, you probably have one of those silly chess piece loyalty hang ups.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Dragon Tamer on May 16, 2013, 11:53:31 PM
Rooks won the map, you're welcome.  :aok
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: BluBerry on May 17, 2013, 12:24:38 AM
Rooks won the map, you're welcome.  :aok

wrong.. im still flying in it.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Zacherof on May 17, 2013, 12:25:20 AM
Rooks won the map, you're welcome.  :aok
He meNs the map after that one
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: RedBull1 on May 17, 2013, 01:19:35 AM
Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.

I know you're kind of new, but threats won't get you far.

Also, those are the kinds of maps I like, up a 262 (or if you don't have the perks Tempest or 152) from a base back and go kill the horde :aok

I did this regularly when I played, got 20-30+ killstreaks on the mindless hordelings more times than I can count.

Chill out, have fun, learn ways around stuff you don't like (like trying to up a 190 or something from a totally capped base)... Up from a base or two back and get alt and kill the horde.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: shoresroad on May 17, 2013, 02:14:02 AM
You could always switch countries. Oh no wait, you probably have one of those silly chess piece loyalty hang ups.

I would, but I don't speak foreign languages, just Knight  :P  Plus, I would be labeled a spy  :O 
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: muzik on May 17, 2013, 02:16:26 AM
I know you're kind of new, but threats won't get you far.


Chill out, have fun, learn ways around stuff you don't like


Good advice.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: shoresroad on May 17, 2013, 02:28:33 AM
I know you're kind of new, but threats won't get you far.

Hi RedBull,

Actually, I'm kind of old and started playing video games 40 years ago when Pong came out in the bowling alleys  :lol

And not a threat, just one vote from one paying customer.  If I had hit this map during my 2 week free trial I probably wouldn't have logged back on after my first night.

But to each his own.  I've heard Trinity was fantastic.  Maybe they could replace this map with Trinity?  Just worried there might be more maps like this one to come in the future which I think is in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Lusche on May 17, 2013, 04:37:09 AM
But to each his own.  I've heard Trinity was fantastic.  Maybe they could replace this map with Trinity? 

Trinity caused a lot of complains, in game as well as here.
If the map you were talking about was retired, you would soon see "it was a great map, bring it back" threads here on the BBS.


And regarding to the "the little maps suck" general comment, I wonder how long large maps will stay in the game anyway ;)
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: -ammo- on May 17, 2013, 05:52:58 AM
What map is it that the OP is speaking of?
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Lusche on May 17, 2013, 06:00:38 AM
What map is it that the OP is speaking of?

As we are now on Grinder, it must have been Beta2
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: rpm on May 17, 2013, 07:13:31 AM
Just took a look and now the Rooks and Bish aren't even fighting each other - both crushing the Knights.  It will get even more fun when we're down to just 3 bases...great gaming experience.
What? You're mad Rook/Nits aren't tag teaming Bish as usual?
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: JOACH1M on May 17, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
Go ahead cancel your account.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Slate on May 17, 2013, 08:00:05 AM
   I've always wanted to fight an impossible battle against incredible odds.........................

    Hit Alt F4 in game to get this power up mode........
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/Starbug360/Motivational%20Posters/DBA.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Starbug360/media/Motivational%20Posters/DBA.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: icepac on May 17, 2013, 09:48:10 AM
Hate the playa....not the map.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: SIK1 on May 17, 2013, 10:46:53 AM
I would, but I don't speak foreign languages, just Knight  :P  Plus, I would be labeled a spy  :O 

And there's your problem.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Karnak on May 17, 2013, 12:01:59 PM
I don't like the little maps because you can't do a bombing run on enemy strats without facing Me163s.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Getback on May 17, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
Green stamp map is a fun map, should that be the one you're speaking of. Knights shouldn't complain about having no bases to up gvs. I upped an f6 and headed to 7 to do a jabo. There were about a dozen knights there taking off. Based on that I figured everything was under control. I head to the Rooks GV spawn to drop some eggs on some gvs. But then I spot something shooting in town. It was an M3! I dive to drop an egg on the m3 and in doing so I spied another m3 by the flag. I rocketed him. Then there were two M4s shooting at the town. I kill one with my last egg and rocket an Osty, no kill. Then I land to rearm. I hear the town is WF. I land to get field supplies. Before I get there the base was captured.

Of all those friendlies taking off not one bothered to check the town. Only Tex76 (?), who flew with me from another base, bothered to check it. There were quite a few gvs for the gvers to do battle with but none were there. I can think of 3 words to describe the knights but none are worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: WyoKId on May 17, 2013, 04:02:32 PM
What does it matter all those little squiggles on the ground ? I just fly over them to get to the fight .
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 17, 2013, 04:15:48 PM
The worst map in the rotation is Mundane... er... Mandanao.  That is the most restrictive map, it has the fewest options, the smallest front, and is simply horrid in many ways.  For the life of I wonder why it is even in the rotation.

I'd REALLY like to see some of those FSO or AvA maps in the game, or the terrain more so.  I'm not a "coad" person, etc, but what is stopping someone from taking the terrains for Europe and simply applying 20 bases per country in a pie pattern? 

Otherwise, the rest of the maps are fine.  I like them all.

*disclaimer* The horde sucks a dead donkey's backside on any map.  I agree, when the odds are 30v1 there is no point.  The knuckle draggers who partake in them are worse than any map.  Too bad HTC cant employ a localized ENY of some sort.  But alas. 
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Bobcat81 on May 17, 2013, 05:29:16 PM
I didn't change from Rooks to Knights to care about the map. It was actually quite the opposite. I changed from Rooks to Knights to NOT care about the war and wing up with some outrageously good dogfighters in order to get better at fighting. Ill still jump in a jabo run here and there to keep my chops up for **its and giggles, or focus my fighting in an area to keep a cap on a field, so the takers can do their thing(I don't find vulching much fun though).

At the same time, I don't understand why HTC would get rid of Trinity, and keep a pos like beta 2. It looks like a big green pimple, it's too small, and a strategic nightmare for those who care. But then again, people complain about every map. Thats my take.

I hear rumors about reworking Trinity and putting it back into rotation. Is that true?
I love fighting in the canyons, so maybe beta 2 could be reworked?
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Babalonian on May 17, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
Well, about 2 hours into this map and the Knights have no usable V bases, so our GV'ers are pretty much out of the game, and almost no place to up a plane safely.  These little maps suck.

Will try to find something to do on this map but will probably log off for the night.  Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.


Should of been around back when we had Trinity AND the Knights would draw the short-straw and be the country left out of the only fun at V135.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Lusche on May 17, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
We should elect a map design comittee! It will create the "Consensus" map, the terrain to end all terrain threads! :old:

Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Babalonian on May 17, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
But to each his own.  I've heard Trinity was fantastic.  Maybe they could replace this map with Trinity?  Just worried there might be more maps like this one to come in the future which I think is in the wrong direction.

Trinity was a map that never should of been allowed in MA rotation it was so "bad" (no free-style gameplay, buggy and lop-sided).  The GVers who "fantasized" about Trinity have still not passed kindergarten or they'd finaly realise and get-over the failed math of two good GV spawns/battles on the map, with three coutnries.  Jury is still out if it's their utter lack of basic math or sharing skills....

Your OP alone rests your forcasted perspective for Trinity - particularly in how disgusted you were at being deprived of any fights/GV-bases, being left out of the only good fights (because your country didn't luckily/randomly get to decide it starts the map with base Y and spawn X - it's "random"), forced to play and participate on teh map further in a way you don't want to.

Why, I'd almost wager a bet you'd be on here typing a novela the second you try and go elsehwere on Trinity but find it take 3-4 sectors of flight to a large field that has the capturable town so close to it that it's covered under 95% of the the field's auto-ack.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: RedBull1 on May 17, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
Trinity was a map that never should of been allowed in MA rotation it was so "bad" (no free-style gameplay, buggy and lop-sided).  The GVers who "fantasized" about Trinity have still not passed kindergarten or they'd finaly realise and get-over the failed math of two good GV spawns/battles on the map, with three coutnries.  Jury is still out if it's their utter lack of basic math or sharing skills....

Your OP alone rests your forcasted perspective for Trinity - particularly in how disgusted you were at being deprived of any fights/GV-bases, being left out of the only good fights (because your country didn't luckily/randomly get to decide it starts the map with base Y and spawn X - it's "random"), forced to play and participate on teh map further in a way you don't want to.

Why, I'd almost wager a bet you'd be on here typing a novela the second you try and go elsehwere on Trinity but find it take 3-4 sectors of flight to a large field that has the capturable town so close to it that it's covered under 95% of the the field's auto-ack.
I had more fun on trinity every time I played it than any other map in hame  :huh

Whether I was GV'ing or flying...I think you just looked in the wrong places :)

Nothing beats GV'ing at 135 for awhile until they get angry enough to up heavy jugs, then bringing a fighter and owning all the bomb tards in the canyons!

Even when I got the side without 135 I had tons of fun and found fights etc :aok
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Babalonian on May 17, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
Also, since I think people (Rebull) don't know how broken Trinity was, they should see what degree/standard is expected of a map to be included in the MA map rotation:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,209609.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,176625

Personaly, I thought it was a huge insult to other maps/map-makers but only an inconvenience to us players "stuck" playing on it who didn't like it.  The bar/standard was set way up there for a map to get a chance to see the MAs, yet there was Trinity.
 

Redbull, I'm assuming you're OK with fighting hordes all night as I am.  This was never a problem on Trinity.  For the 50% that wanted to avoid the furballs (one in each "armpit"), without flying for more than 3-4 sectors, and you get the one country shafted on fun V-spawns, what were your choices?  What choices did you make?

Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Babalonian on May 17, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Again, I repeat and STRESS.

Jury is still out if it's their utter lack of basic math or sharing skills....

Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: The Fugitive on May 18, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
Trinity was a map that never should of been allowed in MA rotation it was so "bad" (no free-style gameplay, buggy and lop-sided).  The GVers who "fantasized" about Trinity have still not passed kindergarten or they'd finaly realise and get-over the failed math of two good GV spawns/battles on the map, with three coutnries.  Jury is still out if it's their utter lack of basic math or sharing skills....

Your OP alone rests your forcasted perspective for Trinity - particularly in how disgusted you were at being deprived of any fights/GV-bases, being left out of the only good fights (because your country didn't luckily/randomly get to decide it starts the map with base Y and spawn X - it's "random"), forced to play and participate on teh map further in a way you don't want to.

Why, I'd almost wager a bet you'd be on here typing a novela the second you try and go elsehwere on Trinity but find it take 3-4 sectors of flight to a large field that has the capturable town so close to it that it's covered under 95% of the the field's auto-ack.

NB made that map, and when it was first out years ago game play was different than it is now. The map was a challenge to break into the other country to get a foot hold/beach head and then expand on it. GV battles were done in the crater at "Tank Town" and for the most part left to their own (yes a buff would show up now and then to try and take the fun away, but not that often).

Today the skilless hordes have trouble navigating the canyons and /or don't have the time to climb to alt BEFORE trying to cross the mountains so they fail. This leaves only the "sea" fronts open and we all know how many skilled carrier drivers we have playing the game  :rolleyes: So those action don't last very long either. The Vtard NOEs were notorious for hitting beach front property as it was the only way they could fight any how. And of course there was A1, the sustained furball and GV camp spot.

I think the map was removed because it was a static map, it never showed much movement in the lines and so was always the same fight. The GV fight at 135, and A1 (sometimes the A10 battle on the side of the mountain), A5, A100, and A40 were the 3 beach front areas for furballs and NOBODY fought in tank town.

Game play style killed that map far more than any builder design flaws. A "big" thumbs up for NB for putting the time and effort into building us a map that for years was a fun place to play!

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/maddogjoe_photos/big_thumbs_up.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/maddogjoe_photos/media/big_thumbs_up.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Max on May 18, 2013, 10:56:37 AM
I'd love to see Trinity and AKPizza maps back in play. Green stamp and Mindinao make me  :bhead
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: BaldEagl on May 18, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
Maps don't make gameplay suck.  Players make gameplay suck.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: The Fugitive on May 18, 2013, 11:15:15 AM
Maps don't make gameplay suck.  Players make gameplay suck.

Damn Strait !!!
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 18, 2013, 12:32:56 PM
With all the complaints about maps. and the small sucky ones in particular.

Consider that the next time you (players in general) are in a rush to "win the war" while on the better maps.

Personally. I'd like to see each map just stay up for 2 days. If the map gets reset during that time. the same map comes up until the two days are up. Then everyone get to have their favorite map up and play on their favorite map for two days. And only has ot deal with maps they dont like for 2 days.

Personally I find it annoying to log on, see a map I really like. only to see the "war is won by **** the map will reset in.." 15 minutes after I logged on.
Or see a map I dont like such as was the case with Trinity and know that if I want to play Im going ot be stuck with that map for a week.

Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Getback on May 18, 2013, 01:27:05 PM
Those small maps are awesome. Where else can you up at one base and fight the 2 other countries!
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: BiPoLaR on May 18, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Well, about 2 hours into this map and the Knights have no usable V bases, so our GV'ers are pretty much out of the game, and almost no place to up a plane safely.  These little maps suck.

Will try to find something to do on this map but will probably log off for the night.  Keep making more of these stupid little maps HTC and I'll cancel my subscription.

yeah, you wont be around long. Goofy kids
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: texasfighter on May 18, 2013, 05:26:23 PM
Is there any way to see Trinity? I've heard it discussed before this thread. Curious to see it now. Come to think of it, do any of the maps exist as a simple graphic outside the game? Where you can just see the land masses and where the bases are located?
Tex78
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Wizard on May 18, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Is there any way to see Trinity? I've heard it discussed before this thread. Curious to see it now. Come to think of it, do any of the maps exist as a simple graphic outside the game? Where you can just see the land masses and where the bases are located?
Tex78

Tex... I checked and it's available to me as a map for offline play or to create a custom arena using it.   Not sure if that is the same for everyone though...
Wizard
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Lusche on May 18, 2013, 05:48:03 PM
Is there any way to see Trinity? I've heard it discussed before this thread. Curious to see it now. Come to think of it, do any of the maps exist as a simple graphic outside the game?


Slideshow with 13 terrains. (http://s1145.photobucket.com/user/Snaildude/slideshow/AH%20Maps) All but one (Trinity) are in the current rotation, only CraterMA (most recent addition) is missing.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: Zacherof on May 18, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
And 




















Trinityis the only map where peeps have tried to bomb tard a panther and got away with 60 kills.














I'd see trinity and crap my pants due to sheer hapiness. Maybe only us young folks likeed it
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: icepac on May 18, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
I can get a GV most anywhere I want but it takes patience.

If you lack patience, then you need to find another game.
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: shoresroad on May 19, 2013, 02:08:25 AM
Hate the playa....not the map.

I hate beets, anchovies, and this map.  I don't hate people  :confused:

If you hate people, then you need to find another game...
Title: Re: Worst Map In the Game
Post by: LCADolby on May 19, 2013, 05:36:54 AM
If you hate people, then you need to find another game...

People suck! I hate 'People'!

No I won't go away!  :furious










 :banana: