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Title: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 29, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Looking for feedback, constructive criticism, etc. 

Keeping in mind that it's only about a bit over halfway finished, I'm interested in anything anybody has to say. 

Thanks.

 (http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/soulofrock.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/soulofrock.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: gyrene81 on May 29, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
leave it like that dude...i can't find the right words to describe what i think of it but...damn, that is very cool, i like it. reminds me of something a modern artist used to do a lot of...don't recall who it was.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Arlo on May 29, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
It's kinda like a young George Carlin.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 29, 2013, 02:01:31 PM
It's the beard and thinning hair, though Neil has a mightier beard than Carlin did.  It's Neil Fallon from the greatest live band in the world, Clutch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eepsCXpLY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia0HUBWdDkU
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: DubiousKB on May 29, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
Don't know much about the subject, but the painting is very good. It made me think of some idealistic movement, or anger towards "the man".... It is hard to describe. I like how it is not in focus, but the emotion of the subject is very clear.

I'm no artist sir... And for that reason, I have no additional help.  Well done  :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 29, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
Don't know much about the subject, but the painting is very good. It made me think of some idealistic movement, or anger towards "the man".... It is hard to describe. I like how it is not in focus, but the emotion of the subject is very clear.

I'm no artist sir... And for that reason, I have no additional help.  Well done  :aok

It's only blurry in the parts that I haven't finished yet.  It's an approximation of the shape and positions that I want stuff, after I finish those areas out, they won't be blurry anymore. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: bacon8tr on May 29, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
That looks pretty sweet as is  :rock
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: MrGeezer on May 29, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
AWESOME!  :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 29, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
Thanks guys, still a lot of work to be done.  Thanks to Ink, I've been using a different layer for each segment of the picture, and that's working out beautifully.  It's coming along, albeit slowly.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Curval on May 30, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
He looks a bit like Scrobius Pip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrMGXwhFLk
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 30, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
He looks a bit like Scrobius Pip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrMGXwhFLk

He does somewhat.  And you know, I don't like hip hop at all, but somehow, I rather liked that.  Thanks for putting me on to him.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 30, 2013, 02:34:54 PM
I did this really quickly for a friend last night.  It needs work still, mostly the eyes, which are driving me crazy right now.  But I wanted it to be quick and sketchy looking, so I probably won't put the clothes in at all, or finish the hands.  Just figured I'd toss it in as well. 

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/charlie.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/charlie.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Curval on May 30, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
He does somewhat.  And you know, I don't like hip hop at all, but somehow, I rather liked that.  Thanks for putting me on to him.


I hate it too man, trust me.  In fact hate is not a strong enough word....lol

SP's stuff is kind of interesting though.

Here's a cool one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnGNOiFll4
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Arlo on May 30, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
Well, I think you captured Chaplin's eyes right fine, myself.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 30, 2013, 02:56:38 PM
Thanks Arlo, my main probles is the size of them is a little off.  His right eye is a bit too large and his left is a bit too small.  And I need to work the highlights and pupils a little better.  I still want it to look fast and sketchy though, like a study and not an actual portrait. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on May 30, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
excellent bud :aok

very very nice.....
you should down load Blender and start foolin with 3d modeling....


I started this little guy last night, have 7 hrs in it so far.....I am guessing another 4 or so, id like to get it down to less then 10 hrs for a complete model...

I am very much enjoying the 3d modeling.... way more then any artwork I have ever done.....including tattooing :O


(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/manderian_zps6a680d71.jpg) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/fieldsofink/media/blender/manderian_zps6a680d71.jpg.html)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/manderian01_zpscce455fe.jpg) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/fieldsofink/media/blender/manderian01_zpscce455fe.jpg.html)


check it out I started putting up some models for sale at Turbosquid, I am going to flood TS with them...hopefully they are good enough and people will buy them....I have in progress probably close to a hundred models now....all animals or weapons of some sort...trying to decide if I should go so far as to animate them or just the models?

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?keyword=fieldsofink&x=0&y=0



Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Nath[BDP] on May 30, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
very cool.  only thing i would say is the rounded Photoshop / Lightroom brush strokes are a little obvious from a technical standpoint (specifically on the guy's arm)  i keep thinking you should have changed the brush opacity and hardness to make it blend better.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: tmetal on May 30, 2013, 05:32:14 PM
I think it looks great already. One look and "electric worry" started running through my head!

bang bang bang bang, vamanos vamanos!!  :rock
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 31, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
very cool.  only thing i would say is the rounded Photoshop / Lightroom brush strokes are a little obvious from a technical standpoint (specifically on the guy's arm)  i keep thinking you should have changed the brush opacity and hardness to make it blend better.

I haven't finished with his arm yet, so it'll actually smooth out quite a lot when I'm done with it, but that's a good point.  I'll be mindful of that as I continue to work it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 31, 2013, 02:59:31 PM
Ink, I'm only just now starting to learn to use digital pencils and paints, I'm far from ready to start modeling yet.  That looks pretty awesome though.  You make the model with wire frame then put textures on it I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on May 31, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Ink, I'm only just now starting to learn to use digital pencils and paints, I'm far from ready to start modeling yet.  That looks pretty awesome though.  You make the model with wire frame then put textures on it I'm guessing?


 :D  I start with a solid cube.......and then add more control points (vertices) by subdividing it....there is a mirror modifier so we only have to do half....  once I get a good basic shape I start to sculpt it....then render the detail from the sculpt on to a low poly model so it looks like it is more detailed then what it actually is....

in blender we can actually paint the object itself...very similar to how one would paint in GIMP


you do excellent work man....bringing that to the 3 Dimension would be very cool. :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: BluBerry on May 31, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
maddafinga that is some excellent work.  :salute

and your fish is badass ink  :rock
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on May 31, 2013, 05:18:14 PM
maddafinga that is some excellent work.  :salute

and your fish is badass ink  :rock

thanx :o

madda does do excellent stuff :aok   top notch
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on May 31, 2013, 05:50:25 PM
You guys are too kind.  I am just learning this stuff, I'm really a lot better with a pencil, but I'm really getting enamored of digital tools like this. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 01, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
leave it like that dude...i can't find the right words to describe what i think of it but...damn, that is very cool, i like it. reminds me of something a modern artist used to do a lot of...don't recall who it was.

Was goingo t say the same thing. Its perfect the way it is
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Fud on June 03, 2013, 05:51:47 AM
Just curious...why do you prefer digital versus paint and are the techniques the same?
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 03, 2013, 01:01:38 PM
Just curious...why do you prefer digital versus paint and are the techniques the same?

I prefer digital, personally, in paint anyway, because it's less messy, there's no cleanup involved, and it's never too dry to blend if you want to.  For just drawing, I still prefer pencil and paper, because I can just do things with a pencil and paper that I can't with digital.  Not yet anyway.  ]

Using digital paint, it's not really much different really, though I never did a whole awful lot of  painting.  You just draw on the pad where you want things to happen on the screen, and make sure you've picked the right brush for the effect you're looking for. 


Honestly though I'm pretty new to digital, so I may well be the wrong guy to ask.  Ink is much more versed in it and has more experience than I.  I still haven't got to a point where I can do work with digital of the quality I can with pencil and paper.  I love it for its versatility and convenience however, and I find it very easy to get inspired and draw for a few hours using the digital pad.

Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 03, 2013, 02:16:29 PM
By way of contrast, this is what I can do with pencil and paper and erasers. 

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/surabachi.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/surabachi.jpg.html)

I'm not anywhere near there with digital yet.  But it's less messy and cumbersome in general, and easier to just start on a whim.  It's got limitations though, and less tactile feedback.  But it's easier to fix mistakes in digital.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 03, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
much easier to work in digital for sure..... :aok

at least for me anyway
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2013, 04:43:20 PM
By way of contrast, this is what I can do with pencil and paper and erasers. 

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/surabachi.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/surabachi.jpg.html)

I'm not anywhere near there with digital yet.  But it's less messy and cumbersome in general, and easier to just start on a whim.  It's got limitations though, and less tactile feedback.  But it's easier to fix mistakes in digital.


Holy ..... !!

 :salute :)
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Masherbrum on June 03, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
Neil Fallon of Clutch!     nice job Madda!     :rock
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 03, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
Neil Fallon of Clutch!     nice job Madda!     :rock

Thanks man!  Glad you like it!
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: Fud on June 04, 2013, 06:11:28 AM
By way of contrast, this is what I can do with pencil and paper and erasers. 

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/surabachi.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/surabachi.jpg.html)

I'm not anywhere near there with digital yet.  But it's less messy and cumbersome in general, and easier to just start on a whim.  It's got limitations though, and less tactile feedback.  But it's easier to fix mistakes in digital.


G....T....F....O!  :rock That's freakin awesome!!!
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 04, 2013, 08:18:24 AM
G....T....F....O!  :rock That's freakin awesome!!!

Thanks man.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: The Fugitive on June 04, 2013, 09:16:40 PM
Is this the one you were talking about in the game the last time we were on?

I think your doing a great job! Both look very good. yes even the eyes you don't like  :P I haven't had time to play around for the last few months... new job and all, but that is what I was working on and trying to get down. Pulling the basic shapes out with shadows and highlights like that and then going in to refine the edges. It looks like you have a really go grasp of that.

Keep it up! Post more as you do them!
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 05, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
its completely different then painting or using a pencil...madda, pencil is what I have done the most with also....once you realize that not only do you not need an eraser but you can shift and move what you have done....change the colors at will....use layer upon layer..use any medium....(without Clean up:-)..form it and sculpt it....then make it walk.......

this is my first animation clip....the model is lo poly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nElmSMvObTc

here is a shot of the Hi poly model...... at the top of the screen shot it shows the vertice count...over 1million120thousand.... :O  anything higher then this it crashes my system :cry


Blender.....its free
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/blender/blendTrex.jpg) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/fieldsofink/media/blender/blendTrex.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 06, 2013, 12:37:49 AM
That's really awesome man.  The high poly one looks outstanding.  Nice attention to the muscle underneath the skin and wrinkles as well.  Really cool!!
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 06, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
That's really awesome man.  The high poly one looks outstanding.  Nice attention to the muscle underneath the skin and wrinkles as well.  Really cool!!

thanx a bunch...love the modeling and sculpting...just need to get a better system, once I upgrade I will be getting as much RAM as I need....hoping for a system with at least 16 gigs but would love 32..... :O

I am doing a dragon that I had to break into like 7 pieces just so I can sculpt it :rofl  4 legs.... head&neck..... body...and tail....all totaled I think there is around 5 million verts..... :O   I have to render each piece by itself and then piece it all together in GIMP creating 1 texture.... :rofl

what a PITA

Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 06, 2013, 01:26:45 PM
It's always about the ram isn't it. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 06, 2013, 02:06:12 PM
 :rofl

yup
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 27, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
Not great, but here's one I cranked out over the weekend.  I'm not terribly happy with it, but I'm not going to work on it any more either. 

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad341/maddafinga_photos/black-and-white-shark-2.jpg) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/maddafinga_photos/media/black-and-white-shark-2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 28, 2013, 01:20:20 AM
why not?
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 28, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
I am happy with the water, which was a squeak to do by the way, but I don't like the shark's tail, it looks off to me, and The lines on it aren't exactly what I wanted.  I didn't want entirely crisp, since he's backlit and under water, I just am not totally happy with how he looks.  

I did a lot of work on that one in Gimp, by the way. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 28, 2013, 02:55:11 PM
nice.....I think it looks great....I agree the tail is a bit whacky but from that angle it will look a bit strange....


take the white parts of the water and make it sea foam green....the dark parts a dark blue....
get rid of that extra fin on the right side....

add some sun rays.....I just selected of parts to get a nice flow for the sun rays.......



you should finish it :old:

it will look very nice finished.
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 28, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
nice.....I think it looks great....I agree the tail is a bit whacky but from that angle it will look a bit strange....


take the white parts of the water and make it sea foam green....the dark parts a dark blue....
get rid of that extra fin on the right side....

add some sun rays.....I just selected of parts to get a nice flow for the sun rays.......



you should finish it :old:

it will look very nice finished.

That extra fin is actually supposed to be there.  It's got a mate, but you just can't see it because of the angle.

Now is there a way to change the colors at this point?  I'm trying to think of something, and I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it'll work.  I may just have to give that a shot to see how it works out for me.  Interesting idea. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 28, 2013, 04:17:14 PM
That extra fin is actually supposed to be there.  It's got a mate, but you just can't see it because of the angle.

Now is there a way to change the colors at this point?  I'm trying to think of something, and I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it'll work.  I may just have to give that a shot to see how it works out for me.  Interesting idea. 


hell ya you can change the color....go to Colors...and then hit "colorize" but this works best if the water is on its own layer....then just the water will change....another reason it is important to use as many layers as needed. :cheers:
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: guncrasher on June 28, 2013, 05:12:31 PM
That extra fin is actually supposed to be there.  It's got a mate, but you just can't see it because of the angle.

Now is there a way to change the colors at this point?  I'm trying to think of something, and I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it'll work.  I may just have to give that a shot to see how it works out for me.  Interesting idea. 


then the picture is confusing as we can only clearly see one.  great picture though.


semp
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 28, 2013, 07:14:06 PM
then the picture is confusing as we can only clearly see one.  great picture though.



Yeah, the other one is blocked by his body, you can't see it because he's in silhouette.  But I assure you, that fin is anatomically correct for a shark.  Promise. 

Yeah Ink, I messed with colorize a bit before.  I think I merged all the layers before exporting it as a jpg though.  I can just duplicate them again and do whatever I need though I think.  I'll experiment with it some. 
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: GScholz on June 28, 2013, 07:29:51 PM
Maddafinga, Ink, other artists here... Are you guys on deviantart? If not then you should be. It's great for inspiration, learning and showcasing.

http://www.deviantart.com/
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: guncrasher on June 28, 2013, 07:43:18 PM
Yeah, the other one is blocked by his body, you can't see it because he's in silhouette.  But I assure you, that fin is anatomically correct for a shark.  Promise.  

Yeah Ink, I messed with colorize a bit before.  I think I merged all the layers before exporting it as a jpg though.  I can just duplicate them again and do whatever I need though I think.  I'll experiment with it some.  

the picture that you drew is a reverse of the original.  very good work done there.  but it is a single fish.  the extra fins are actually not extra but it looks that way from the position of the camera.  just found that out by looking at the original picture.  here's a different pictures of sharks.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee134/NurUns/sharks.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/NurUns/media/sharks.jpg.html)


semp
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: ink on June 28, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Maddafinga, Ink, other artists here... Are you guys on deviantart? If not then you should be. It's great for inspiration, learning and showcasing.

http://www.deviantart.com/

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=fieldsofink


 :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: GScholz on June 28, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: WEZEL on June 28, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
Wow all you guys do awesome work  :aok
Title: Re: Progress shot of current digital painting
Post by: maddafinga on June 28, 2013, 10:26:04 PM
Maddafinga, Ink, other artists here... Are you guys on deviantart? If not then you should be. It's great for inspiration, learning and showcasing.

http://www.deviantart.com/

I'm not, but I love to wander through there and check stuff out. 

Semp, I love sharks, I love looking at pictures of them and shows about them.  They fascinate me and I think they're beautiful. 

I really like the light in that picture.  Nice find.